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8:04 AM
FUCK
I MUST BUY DDOS PROTECTION IMMEDIATELY
Also, don't worry: I am adding this: if(messageString.length <= 100){//Do everything}
if(msg.length <= 140){
                io.emit('chat message', markdown.toHTML(msg));
                }else{
                socket.emit('chat message', 'Oops! You cannot send messages longer than 100 characters. Sorry!');
                }
Hackers, your days are over :)
PM: Oops! You cannot send messages longer than 140 characters. Sorry!
Muahahaha
And I tried it myself, no it won't crash if you send 10 140 character messages in 1 minute
Reading right now: Migrating Unencrypted EBS Volumes to Encrypted EBS Volumes
@JacobGray I didn't except this chat application.
@JacobGray Sadly, the server won't go out :)
I'm working with Access-Control-Origins for preventing you guys for connecting to the server remotely, too.
Also, just for warning: The iOS app(90% of the users) doesn't get affected with the attack to the Node.js server because it sends the requests directly to the database.
Great! Now the Painless Cloud's REST API runs on the same server as my blog(blog.montreus.com), and the connections are redirected from the main server(the same as the chat) to the blog server.
 
9:12 AM
@Unihedro He won't...
I'm changing some stuff: The message will be sent with Markdown, but the username won't. So, your links in username for avoiding the ": " won't be possible.
 
Hi
Just wanted to know ... Is SO server down ?? I am not able to load it
 
@Outofmemory Yes
I tried to ping it, but no sucess
 
Thanks for infor .. twitter.com/stackstatus
 
@Outofmemory Well, when a ping doesn't work, then...
My machine and the Ubuntu server in Massachusetts, none of them got a result.
PING stackoverflow.com (198.252.206.140) 56(84) bytes of data.


--- stackoverflow.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3023ms
This is the result for my Ubuntu server.
My Mac in Germany:
    PING stackoverflow.com (198.252.206.140): 56 data bytes
    Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
   (...)
    Request timeout for icmp_seq 11

    --- stackoverflow.com ping statistics ---
    13 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
 
9:31 AM
@GabrielTomitsuka Yeah, Stack Exchange is down.
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 17 mins ago, by balpha
Yes, all of our new york datacenter is unaccessible
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 17 mins ago, by balpha
Chat runs in oregon, thus still works
 
9:50 AM
in The Bridge on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 30 mins ago, by Private Pansy
"Why are you looking at webcomics and not coding?"
"Because Stack Overflow is down"
13 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
Gabriels-MBP-2:Montreus.com Gstomi1$ ping stackoverflow.com
PING stackoverflow.com (104.16.31.170): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 104.16.31.170: icmp_seq=0 ttl=55 time=37.614 ms
(...)
64 bytes from 104.16.31.170: icmp_seq=8 ttl=55 time=36.950 ms
^C
--- stackoverflow.com ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 9 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 34.515/36.741/37.783/1.174 ms
Now there's a CloudFlare page instead :)
And back live :)
 
10:24 AM
Montreus Chat update - Version 1.2 - Security improvements
+ Markdown improvements
+ Now supporting much more HTML
But scripts don't work
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Stack doesn't crash, nor has a 140 character limit
Changed the limit to 280 chars, because 140 is absurd
Ok, now it's 512.
That's enough for small snipets
 
11:01 AM
2048 is the best...
So, it has a 2048 char limit
 
 
2 hours later…
12:55 PM
@Unihedro, now how will you do for hacking Montreus Chat?
 
@GabrielTomitsuka Hmm?
 
Hey @ArVID220u
@Unihedro I changed the Access-Control-Origins for no more remote clients. Also, it's not allowed to send messages longer than 2048 bytes. How will you hack it now?
 
@GabrielTomitsuka I don't really have the time to.
 
YES! NO MORE HACKERS
Let me see if @JacobGray will still try
It's now really hard.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka Yet.
 
1:09 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka Cool, have you added more protection for your chat? Let me try ;)
 
10 mins ago, by Gabriel Tomitsuka
@Unihedro I changed the Access-Control-Origins for no more remote clients. Also, it's not allowed to send messages longer than 2048 bytes. How will you hack it now?
 
@GabrielTomitsuka ... but you have no limit on username length.
 
@ProgramFOX The full message length, including username, may not have more than 2048 bytes.
 
oh
@GabrielTomitsuka Seems not -- I can use a username that's longer than 2048 bytes and still post stuff.
@GabrielTomitsuka Also, there's no protection on the amount of messages; I was able to write a JavaScript thingy to post a message every 20 milliseconds. It worked.
 
This is severely mundane.
 
2:02 PM
@ProgramFOX Good for you
@ProgramFOX Thanks for the bug report.
Here's the (outdated) source.
Might be helpful. Who knows
@ProgramFOX The server doesn't crash: That's what matters.
Also, now the Painless server isn't dependent on the chat's server. So, that's no big problem anymore.
 
2:18 PM
BlueVM seems to be great for small projects hosting (sufficient RAM and bandwidth, dedicated IP address, less than $1 per month, decent reviews), plus it supports paypal!
 
@Unihedro I have $175 AWS credits.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka Eh, good for you.
 
Also, setting up Node.js+MongoDB is painful.
 
It really isn't.
 
(Node.js is easy: MongoDB and the MongoDB Node.js driver are painful)
Also, $2.50. A t2.micro EC2 instance is $4.50
Oh
Blue 0.5 is $7.50 p/**year**. Didn't notice that.
 
2:23 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka I would use AWS, if it supports paypal or at least bank accounts outside the US.
Therefore, I have less options than you do. :P
 
I tried using my credit card as well, but evidently my credit card plan doesn't authorize foreign transactions.
 
@Unihedro Shame....
I actually use my aunt(she doesn't matter with $10 p/month)'s card.
It's pretty much my allowance being spent with AWS.
 
2:42 PM
(Note: The counter is broken)
 
Sam
@JacobGray :O
 
Hey Sam
Check the chat
Your username's link doesn't work anymore :)
 
Sam
@Jac While you're at it, it maybe a good idea to check the sensor.
Heya!
@GabrielTomitsuka Sure.
@GabrielTomitsuka Huh?
 
@Sam Markdown is no longer supported in usernames
 
Sam
Oh, I see.
 
2:52 PM
Also, as you asked, http:// links are also supported.
More HTML is also supported(but scripts not)
 
Sam
nice work.
 
Thank you
I also made anti-hack work.
 
Sam
Such as?
 
2 hours ago, by Gabriel Tomitsuka
@Unihedro I changed the Access-Control-Origins for no more remote clients. Also, it's not allowed to send messages longer than 2048 bytes. How will you hack it now?
 
Sam
I see.
Mind if I be a white hat for a few secs?
 
2:56 PM
No problem.
 
Sam
k
 
Painless Cloud is no longer affected with attacks to Montreus Chat.
Source code may be helpful for an attack
 
Sam
Alright, thx.
 
Done
Pull request
Now the Github version is even with the server's version
 
3:20 PM
Setting up databases is boring...
I'm gonna use login/register in Montreus chat too
@Sam Will you actually do it?
 
Heh
 
I'm bored
But hacking my own chat is doing this: forever stop 0
 
Sam
3:37 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka Sorry, my system crashed.
Yeah, I'm going to.
 
Sam
@Unihedro Hey Uni!
 
@Sam Hiya!
I was repairing my father's Android. You KNOW some noobs are installing all the malware when you root their device to see lots of folders with profane names.
 
Sam
lol
 
@Unihedro Your father installed malware?
Oh, beginner's mistake.
 
3:40 PM
> You are now 4 taps away from being a developer
OH I CAN FEEL IT
> You are now 3 taps away from being a developer
 
taps or steps?
 
Sam
o_o
No, no, tabs.
 
How to be an advanced C++ developer in 6 hours by George W. Bush
2
 
Sam
lol
 
I work with only 3 tabs.
(Ok, sometimes 5)
I assume you're trying to mean browser tabs, right?
 
3:43 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka taps.
There's a secret button on the Android options which is invisible. By tapping it seven times, you enable super secret developer mode.
 
"Taps" is a musical piece played at dusk, and funerals, particularly by the U.S. military. It is performed during flag ceremonies and funerals, generally on bugle or trumpet, and often at Boy Scout, Girl Scout and Girl Guide meetings and camps. The tune is also sometimes known as "Butterfield '​s Lullaby", or by the first line of the lyric, "Day is Done". == Etymology == It is often claimed that "Taps" is a derivation of "Tattoo," which originates from the Dutch term taptoe, meaning "close the (beer) taps (and send the troops back to camp)". The more likely explanation, however, is that it carried...
 
Sam
@Unihedro It's the "Format SD Card" button, right?
 
@Unihedro I'm an iOS user and developer.
@Unihedro Jailbreak?
 
@Sam no, build number, to the right half
@GabrielTomitsuka vanilla Android 2.0+
 
@Unihedro Nice
 
Sam
3:45 PM
@Unihedro :O
 
what is http 416 error
 
The following is a list of Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) response status codes. This includes codes from IETF internet standards as well as other IETF RFCs, other specifications and some additional commonly used codes. The first digit of the status code specifies one of five classes of response; the bare minimum for an HTTP client is that it recognises these five classes. The phrases used are the standard examples, but any human-readable alternative can be provided. Unless otherwise stated, the status code is part of the HTTP/1.1 standard (RFC 7231). The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority...
416 Requested Range Not Satisfiable
The client has asked for a portion of the file (byte serving), but the server cannot supply that portion. For example, if the client asked for a part of the file that lies beyond the end of the file.
 
YouTube app needs authorizations to take photoes, are you kidding me?
 
can here is solution how can i solve this ?
 
Sam
4:01 PM
Well @Gab, you survived my 10K message attack.
 
@Unihedro It should have a special photo taking function for the profile picture
@Axeem What???
STFW
@Sam WITHOUT CLOUDWATCH ALERTS!
OH YES
 
Sam
:D
 
Montreus Chat is finally stable enough for resisting hacker attacks :)
 
Sam
... for now. ;)
 
@Unihedro, by the way, reading the docs was more effective than following the guide.
@Sam For now :)
 
4:06 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka I told you. Tutorials > RTFM > STFW > guides
 
I didn't do any deep-search on the web.
 
Sam
@GabrielTomitsuka Still alive?
 
@g
 
I just read the whole documentation.
 
Sam
I think I killed it.
 
4:07 PM
@gabriel can i solve this
 
Sam
Hmm.
I can't talk.
 
Really?
 
Sam
Yeah.
 
@Axeem The client has asked for a portion of the file (byte serving), but the server cannot supply that portion. For example, if the client asked for a part of the file that lies beyond the end of the file.
As simple as that
What did you try?
Unihedro do you still have the kids can't use computers article with you?
@Axeem You must solve it on your own
 
@gabriel any suggestion
 
4:13 PM
I don't know what you're trying to do; I don't know which language are you using; I don't know how are you trying to achieve this.
Think a bit. You should train error handling. Then, create a question on StackOverflow.
If this doesn't work, then come to chat
That's the solution of your problem
 
Your solution is horrible incorrect.
Stack Overflow has nothing to do with this. 1. Pick up a book. 2. Hire someone. fin
 
@Unihedro We shouldn't be that mean to noobs
 
@GabrielTomitsuka I disagree with your premise.
 
@Axeem How did you get the 20 reputation you need to be here?
 
4:24 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka Literally the first sentence of the tour is "Stack Overflow is a question and answer site for professional and enthusiast programmers. - emphasized mine.
 
i didn't know
 
@Firedrake969 Hello, user.
 
@Firedrake969 Hey
 
@Firedrake969 Hi
 
reading that article on coding2learn
 
4:25 PM
@Unihedro most of us(me you Sam) fit on the professional. Axeem and many others fit on the enthusiast
 
That's kind of sad.
(regarding the article)
 
It is the reality.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka How would you define professional and enthusiast?
I probably fit in both
 
Kids and most adults can't use computers.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka Does this user appear to ask a question that will only be asked by professional and enthusiast programmers? If not, flame, roast and eat them show them what Stack Overflow really is for.
 
4:27 PM
FLAME ROAST EAT
Ok, have to go. Bye all
 
Bye.
 
bye
 
@GabrielTomitsuka My books will surely have more accurate and appealing names.
 
4:55 PM
@Unihedro You'll probably call your readers functional idiots at some point of the book
@Unihedro He's no enthusiast programmer, fine.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka Correct!
 
I'm simply being nice to him
@Unihedro That's why I'll buy it(for helping you get some money) and then use it on my fireplace.
Actually, depends.
 
I'm not hurting on money though. I still have sufficient profit to keep my servers online.
 
What will be the book's title
?
Programmer's Acronyms for Total Noobs by Unihedro
Javascript: Why shall you avoid it at all costs - by Unihedro
 
5:12 PM
Why you shouldn't be learning Java will be the name of my Java tutorial, @Gabriel.
 
@Unihedro I keep thinking how will you market this...
 
Why you shouldn't be marketing your books by Unihedro
 
@Unihedro Elementary, @Uni, elementary.
 
Sam
6:02 PM
@Unihedro Globally reaches #1 best selling book in 24 hours...
 
@Sam Forbes Ranks: 300 Richest Man on Earth: #1 - @Unihedro
(He's offline)
 
Sam
lol
Well I've given up on hacking your chat room... for now ;)
 
YES!
Oh
NOOOOOO
Shame
I like to have someone hacking me
I could do like Google: $5 for anyone who succeeds taking the servers down.
 
Sam
I'll find something, eventually.
GitHub also does that.
 
(Unfortunately, I don't have the budget for that)
 
Sam
6:07 PM
Nor the proper means.
 
Yeah
It would be nice doing this with Painless Cloud, not Montreus Chat
Everyone could hack Montreus Chat
 
Sam
True
 
@Sam you should do a blog post: How to hack a chatting system - The Basics showing Javascript methods for hacking plus.montreus.com:3000
 
Sam
lol
Maybe I should :P
 
Where's @its_notjack?
He would have pleasure writing this
 
Sam
6:10 PM
Yeah, I haven't seen him for a while.
 
His last blog post was at 25th december.
 
Sam
Hmm
 
His last tweet was at Jan 14th
He's alive
 
Sam
Meh, only a few days ago.
 
Just left the developer community :(
 
Sam
6:13 PM
~ People come, people go.
 
I'll send him an email.
 
Sam
waits for him to return
 
I wrote Sam is waiting for you to return, too.
 
Sam
:D
 
Does anyone actually use the GCE?
 
Sam
6:23 PM
GCE?
 
Google Compute Engine
 
Sam
Oh, right.
Nope.
Then again, I'm not a web dev, so...
 
Google App Engine = Front-end
Google Compute Engine = Back-end
@Sam What exactly do you do?
 
What's GCE?
 
Sam
@GabrielTomitsuka Anything/everything to do with .Net/C#.
(I.e., windows apps/libs)
 
6:31 PM
@Sam Nice. WP8?
 
Sam
Nope. Desktop.
I haven't really bothered adventuring to WP, yet.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka I doubt it will work for me to begin with, only supports credit cards. Plus Google is evil, I rather support another company.
 
@Unihedro Don't you have a credit card? I don't think it must be international
One day, I'll work for Google building robots for destroying mankind
 
Sam
... Google is still evil though...
Wait.
Isn't it like 1:30 in the morning for you @Uni?
 
It's Sunday here in Germany, so...
It's Monday 1:30
In Hong Kong
 
Sam
6:38 PM
... another late morning night for Uni. :O
 
7:03 PM
Hey Sam
Could you enter the chat?
 
Sam
Sure
 
I want to see if the counter only works with two or more
(For others who want to join: plus.montreus.com:3000)
 
Sam
Brb, dinner...
 
@Sam Yes, and wasn't a too productive day, spent a lot of time chatting with a friend of mine :)
I was trying to come up with a game related to programming, think I got one now, hopefully it will get off the ground
(an interesting multiplayer role-playing TEXT cycle-based game based on various skills such as intelligence and devotion, et cetera)
 
7:19 PM
text cycle-based game? interesting... running which platform?
 
Sorry have not decided yet.
 
Open-source?
 
Went through quick R&D today with the friend, currently no progress aside from plans, and JCE is still top priority.
However, likely PHP.
I also only open source common domain stuff after using it for a while, want it to be fair for everyone, even those who can't read code. :)
Probably won't take too long though. It's a simple game, but lots of fun and balancing.
 
@Unihedro Sadly, the project I "hired"(still didn't pay, I'll only receive budget later) you, it's just the same thing. As I'm indirectly working for the German state, it's pretty hard to get through everything, you know? I believe the real-code will start only end next-month(however I made a MongoDB database, a Node.js basic code and everything ready for working together with their source code)
 
k
I believe it's the typical 'wreck up software following specs with no specialized code review process' kind of job?
 
7:30 PM
@Unihedro No, I want you to encrypt everything, too.
Also, you're also no front-end dev, right?
Shame
 
k, SSL license, JS, or OpenSSL?
 
@Unihedro Can be everything. AES-256 encryption for user data.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka "front-end" is a big word. I build amazing CSS.
 
(Since it's for the German gov, I have no problems with SSL certificates)
 
Sam
7:38 PM
@Unihedro Ah. Well then, that was a productive day. :)
@GabrielTomitsuka Using SHA3?
 
@Sam Can be everything
If it's safe, it's ok
@Unihedro May I have the SE chat docs link?
 
Transport Layer Security (TLS) and its predecessor, Secure Sockets Layer (SSL), are cryptographic protocols designed to provide communication security over the Internet. They use X.509 certificates and hence asymmetric cryptography to authenticate the counterparty with whom they are communicating, and to exchange a symmetric key. This session key is then used to encrypt data flowing between the parties. This allows for data/message confidentiality, and message authentication codes for message integrity and as a by-product, message authentication. Several versions of the protocols are in widespread...
My most liked method of encryption ^^^
 
OH, and it MUST be fast
Is it fast?
If so, you can use it.
 
ApprovedByUnihedronâ„¢
 
However, remember: The project only starts end February
 
Sam
7:42 PM
@Unihedro And what's your most liked method for hashing?
 
@Sam dummy hash
def dummy_hash(obj):
    return 4;
3
 
Sam
lol
 
Hey new font for monospaced text in mobile chat!!
@GabrielTomitsuka Yes it is - assymetric on transport layer, and initialized and composed within the fifth to sixth layer, which allows reliable async communication
 
Montreus® S-AG
 
And bonus - TSL 2.0 cannot be reliably cracked, and Bob cannot possibly extract any information from closed streams or fragments
 
7:47 PM
@Unihedro Any node-module for this?
 
Sam
@Unihedro You should totally drop that and use OTPs.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka TSL is dependent and works under X.509.
In cryptography, X.509 is an ITU-T standard for a public key infrastructure (PKI) and Privilege Management Infrastructure (PMI). X.509 specifies, amongst other things, standard formats for public key certificates, certificate revocation lists, attribute certificates, and a certification path validation algorithm. == History and usage == X.509 was initially issued on July 3, 1988 and was begun in association with the X.500 standard. It assumes a strict hierarchical system of certificate authorities (CAs) for issuing the certificates. This contrasts with web of trust models, like PGP, where anyone...
 
That is a good implementation.
Oh, it runs on OpenSSL.
No wonder. :)
 
I think EJS will be the front-end on the website version, and native iOS and Android apps(iOS made by me, Android by a guy my partner hired).
Nice.
 
user4433485
7:52 PM
Hey
 
We already have an encryption system
 
Sam
Hiya
 
user4433485
Anyone here experience with SWift?
 
user4433485
Swift*
 
@HaltlolXD Hey. Are you new here?
 
user4433485
7:52 PM
Yep
 
@HaltlolXD I have an app on the App Store
 
@Sam Meh, it only works against noobs, multifactor authentication is indifferent.
 
But made in ObjC
 
user4433485
Is Obj-C still worth to learn it ?
 
user4433485
since they will switch to swift
 
7:53 PM
@HaltlolXD Swift doesn't have the #defines and macros.
 
For iOS development, currently yes. It is practical for many fields, but alternatives exist. Still a good language to know just to know, it's a nice one.
 
I'll tell you this: 90% of the Top 100 apps are ObjC driven.
 
@Gabriel False matrix.
 
user4433485
c# is for most apps tho
 
^
 
user4433485
7:55 PM
Obj-c is apple related right
 
@Unihedro Sadly, I can't use it on most competitions. My second choice is C++.
 
Sam
@Unihedro True.
 
@Unihedro Only a few big companies migrated yet to Swift.
 
user4433485
I am new in app development, been busy with php for couple years now
 
It will take 3 years, my shot, for the Obj-C vs. Swift gets fifty-fifty
 
7:56 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka Most companies, like Stack Exchange, runs on C#
 
IF Swift's popularity get's higher.
@Unihedro Most Top 100 are native, though
 
The ones that can't afford to invest much on development runs on Java.
 
user4433485
still not sure wich language to learn, I've got a mac and a windows computer so I can decide for visual studio -> C# for Windows development or Xcode -> Obj-C / Swift for iOS development
 
Sam
... because C# is the only right language.
 
@Unihedro And don't hit the Top 100
 
7:57 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka "Most" <- false
 
user4433485
but I think @Sam
 
user4433485
is right
 
I MADE A FALSE STATEMENT OK BEHEAD ME PLEASE
I'll re-do it
90% of the Top 100 native apps are ObjC driven.
Better?
 
Sam
Especially since MS are now open sourcing .Net.
 
user4433485
:)
 
user4433485
7:58 PM
Good documentation on msdn
 
I think doing an ASP.NET site when I have free time would be good. But I have 3 projects right now, so...
 
I use Java among other languages. Java is the future of software development. C++ is incredible and opens a door to incredible lands of code heaven, but takes many years of mastery.
 
user4433485
What about PhoneGap ?
 
@Unihedro As if Java was something to learn over-night.
 
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