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Good morning!
 
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03:17
@Tanaike good morning!
04:15
@OlegValter Now it's Good afternoon in Japan!
04:34
Although this might be old information, today, I knew that README can be put to the top page of GitHub as the profile. So I set it! docs.github.com/en/github/…
04:45
ok, you got me there, it was 17 minutes past noon :)

Re:readme - yeah, I've known about it for a while, but I can't force myself to spend some time and do it myself - congratulations on having one, though :)
 
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08:44
Good evening!
@OlegValter Recently, I sometimes saw the README on the top page of repository. So I had thought that this might be for the special account. But today, I could know that I can do it. 😄
09:14
@Tanaike good evening! Well, your's is a special account after all 😁 I think I learnt about it when looking into GitHub Actions, afaik there is a mention about it there
@OlegValter Good evening! As the result, my README became simple. I just added "About me" and "Contact".
@Tanaike simple and quite concise :)
@OlegValter 👍
@Tanaike 👍
09:30
@OlegValter In Japan, it's summer vacation from today. But in this year, it is difficult to go out because of COVID-19. So I would like to study during I'm staying in my home. Please take care of yourself.
@OlegValter I'm away from here. Bye and cya!
@Tanaike you bet, it is difficult to go out anywhere these days... You too, cya!
 
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Good evening!
@OlegValter TBH I thought all these tags will die on it's own. Personally I don't see a need for ultra specific tags like -editor, -libraries , -runtime, -dashboard, -project,etc. I think we should first discuss the relevance or need for these tags. cc: @RafaGuillermo @ziganotschka @Tanaike @Ruben
@TheMaster well, they exist, so might as well have usage guidance. I am not sure about other tags, but I can attest for , and as they represent real entities, they are not prefixed (although I would rename them to shorter official names). The rest, such as and several others I may support removing
@PuzzledBoy good evening!
12:20
@OlegValter I think we should discuss each tag on it's own(preferably a meta post) and whether they merit a separate tag. I can't agree that they need a separation just because they are real entities. For eg: I propose [gas]+[rhino] or [gas]+[v8] instead of [gas-runtime]. [gas-project] should preferably be replaced with [google-cloud-platform]... and so on.
I thought We agreed on discussing one by one after [gas-triggers]. If we do go against [gas-editor], then your efforts so far and future efforts would be in vain.
@TheMaster did that span tag wiki edits as well? Sorry if that slipped my mind - I barely keep track of all that's going on, and I've been looking through the tasks left from the original Q&A.. At least I am sure I did not create any new tags since then
@OlegValter why give legitimacy to these tags at all? You created a elaborate wiki and usage guideline and If I'm not mistaken, you also retagged as per these guideline. Just a cursory look led me to this: stackoverflow.com/q/63173162 views:7 Do we need to repeat the same trigger fiasco all over again?
If anything [trigger] issue set a precedent against ultra specific tags. I think the general direction should be synonimizing all these tags. Not creating wikis for them.
@TheMaster I think that one is simply unsalvageable... "I copied a code from the internet and am now struggling to apply it to my needs.." - we could not help it even if the tagging was perfect. Also, fun fact, it is partially about editor: "How did you learn how to work with Google script editor". More on-topic responses below:
@TheMaster please note that for the wiki was approved even before my answer and position on , I added it around the same time. Actually this one I am ready to discuss, in retrospect its meaning can be exhausted by V8 + GAS or Rhino + GAS ( although I would still like to add the info somewhere, because Google's implementation of both was a bit different )
12:38
@OlegValter Point is 1. It was hidden from the real community. 2. There were no comments on how to improve the question. 3. If it was unsalvageable,It should've been closed. ..there were no close votes. There were no downvotes either. Whether the question is unsalvageable or not is irrelevant. Personally, I don't think so. And I value my comments to even unsalvageable questions.
@TheMaster oh, I don't meant is as a formal definition of "unsalvageable" as in the review queues, I just meant that I am not sure if they would've chosen the correct tag anyway. That said, are you sure it is possible to bring it into any shape at all? There is 0 knowledge of any programming language, noise, asking for opinions, etc.
@OlegValter Most gas users are new. They were smart to type in apps script. If there are 10-15 unnecessary branches compared to let's say 2-3 essential branches, I think the chances of a new user using branched tags would be low.
@OlegValter The question itself would probably be closed. But any user who posts a question should at least receive a comment to tag info page or even a downvote. If I fix it, 2 and 3 part would be removed( after interacting with the user to be more specific or split up the question) => answer to 1 would be how to use getRange()/ may be close as duplicate
@TheMaster that was a singular they :) I refer to that post only, that said, the sad mistake of missing that question is fixed now (at least in part). Oh, now it is working:
too broad or duplicate or opinion-based stackoverflow.com/questions/63173162/…
@TheMaster so, just to clarify the above - I am not against discussing the tags. Also, I am more inclined to re discuss and actually support splitting of (maybe a good idea to add info to corresponding runtime tag info - I might as well improve info on them). Tag was created and updated with wiki even earlier (certainly before the precedent) and I think it can also be merged ( not sure where, though ).
[tag:google-apps-script-project] is the one I disagree with - I think it represents a valid and complex entity and in fact can become a synonym target for [tag:google-apps-script-libraries] if we do away with them. It can't also be sufficiently covered by [tag:google-cloud-platform], I think.
Also it really has good on-topic Q&As (and I only tagged a select amount initially). I would like to keep it and personally look after if needed, so far it did not do any harm as well ( although I would've renamed it to [tag:apps-script-project] to further lessen the potential to do so ).
- well, this I have to apologize about, I had it nudging me in the back of my mind as an unclosed matter and, as I mentioned, I did not consider the agreement to span tag edits - I don't think these efforts will go to waste if we decide to deal with it, for example (I would be even ok in dropping it) - as with , the info can be moved to a more appropriate tag.
Finally, and wiki update dates as far back as the middle of June, so I am also ok to discuss it. Actually, can also be a target for synonymizing this tag, since it already encapsulates it.
13:12
Hi... We can consolidate and synonimize ourselves where we agree. Where we don't agree, let's create a meta post and discuss. That's all I'm saying. This discussion is kind of haphazard as it involves multiple tags. Let's discuss it one by one. Only reason I didn't bring it up was because triggers isn't synonymized yet. One by one.
@OlegValter I don't think we need a concept or even a wiki for this. My idea would be to synonimize it to gas itself. Anyway, let's plan- preferably a week for a issue. One by one.
@TheMaster editor to triggers? ok, seen your edit :)
@OlegValter typo. Edited.
@TheMaster well, yeah, I agree, I just meant that those expansions were mostly made before we all started to discuss things here and on meta to achieve consensus and clear policy instead of using vigilante tactics. I had to defend my own innocence here :) Joking aside, I would propose discussing libraries, editor, dashboard and project at the same time next, as I think I have an idea.
Something like this, for example - this would mirror the official structure. And if we then decide to ditch the project, a single vote will deal with all other tags
https://i.sstatic.net/UXmZm.png
 
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@TheMaster - I very much like what you proposed. It can keep tag discussions in check for once, I would like to adopt it when we will be discussing tags mentioned above (we do even have the necessary queries, and I will make dedicated ones later)
@OlegValter 👍
My proposal regarding general criteria we should take for branching tags. Kindly comment and share your opinion in the meta post. @Tanaike @RafaGuillermo @ziganotschka @Ruben @OlegValter
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A: Improving Google Apps Script: tags, tag wikis, excerpts and refs

TheMasterThe main language google-apps-script has way too many branches. I believe most of them are unnecessary and should be debranched/merged into the main tag itself. The following factors should be considered when creating new branches or consolidating old branches: Concept division: Is the google-ap...

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@TheMaster 👍 although my eyes bleed when I see lego capitalized, I know you had and answer edited over before ( I guess they would capitalize xerox too :) Next, to check whether I can prepare some new queries - I guess even "will be tagged" is possible with some predictive analysis
@TheMaster btw, can you actually ping Rubén, or this is just a cc?
@OlegValter I think retrospective would a good start. For eg, How many questions contain both these names: "web" and "do*" and would theoretically been tagged with this tag, if present then. That should be a start for calculating quantity. Then we can see acceleration/rate and go predictive.
@OlegValter Just a cc. If he comes back, He can search his name "@Ru"
@TheMaster ah, ok, I started to worry I am the only one who can't, thanks
@TheMaster hm, good idea, I even have a couple of queries that can simply be extended (although we must be careful about false positives)

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