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11:01 AM
And still no one can give me any advice about iPhones.
 
@CodyGray Just don't sell your kidney
 
Just ask Siri
 
Zoe
or do - it's the only way to buy the iPhone 12
 
I think you mean the iPhone X 10.2 Jaguar
 
Jaguar was a great OS. That's when OS X really came into its own.
It was also the first to execute the Happy Mac, which was kinda sad. :-(
 
11:07 AM
What, @CodyGray? You’re gonna take my phone, now?
 
Was thinking of buying my own, actually
It has been suggested that I not trade a kidney for it.
 
I started using OS X much later than that.
 
Good. I wanna keep this one.
 
@RyanM You were still using OS 9?
@Andreas So you actually have an iPhone 11 Plus? Perfect. I have a question for you.
 
@CodyGray Pro, not Plus. ;)
 
11:09 AM
Err, oops. Yes.
Apple has really screwed up the names these days.
 
What’s the question?
No, you don’t say.
 
So glad Apple has finally decided to join the rest of the tech industry and adopt an inscrutable naming system
 
So... the iPhone 11 Pro has a smaller screen (5.8") compared to the iPhone 11 (6.1"), but a much higher resolution (2436x1125 vs 1792x828). Can I take that to mean that I can fit more content on the iPhone 11 Pro's screen due to its higher resolution, despite its physically smaller screen?
I know this is true with normal monitors. I prefer the smallest physical size screen I can get with the highest resolution.
But I don't know if Apple might be just wasting that extra resolution by scaling everything.
 
This is basically never true with phones
 
Basically... are the effective pixels smaller on iPhone 11 Pro compared to iPhone 11?
 
11:11 AM
If you get an Android phone, there's a setting in the display settings that does exactly that by simulating a larger display at a lower density :D
 
The user interface is just scaled, but if you write your own application, you can probably bypass the scaling with either Core Graphics or Metal.
 
@RyanM I...don't want a larger display at a lower density. I want a smaller display at a higher density.
 
Scrolling is definitely smoother.
 
Ugh. I don't care about that. I don't want a giant-ass phone that won't fit into my pocket. I just want a high-res screen that shows me more of SO.
 
@CodyGray right, that's what you get. it's simulating a larger, lower-density display, then scaling it down to your size
 
11:13 AM
@RyanM My brain cannot follow this.
 
I’m not really sure if you want any smaller content on the screen. At one point, you’ll just need to focus too hard on the elements, and smaller buttons... would not be nice.
 
I have a notebook that I run at 3000x2000. It is glorious.
 
@CodyGray You could've asked me this question, this is very much something mobile devs should be able to answer easily because we know the keywords to search. The iPhone 11 and the iPhone 11 Pro both have the same logical resolution of 812 × 375.
 
Why don’t you visit a store having iPhones on display, and test them?
 
The default was some kind of scaled up bullshit, but why would I buy a gorgeous high-res display and then turn it into some cheap HD junk?
@Andreas Yeah. That's my fallback option.
 
11:14 AM
@CodyGray python time.sleep can sleep milliseconds. It's backed up by system millitimer. Probably a resolution of 10ms is probably reasonable
 
@RyanM I didn't want you to break out into hives because I asked you a question about iPhones. I was thinking of your health.
 
hang on, this chart is sketchy...
 
You’re asking if content is rendered to the same resolution as an iPhone 11? No. The UI is rendered at full resolution, but the physical size displayed is mostly the same.
 
Yeah, that chart is crazy. Does the iPhone XR and the iPhone XS Max really have the same logical resolution? That would be useless.
I want to fit more content on the screen.
Without making the screen physically any larger.
 
Yeah, but you can only do that with custom rendering, as far as I know.
 
11:17 AM
@CodyGray this sort of thing is pretty common. A lot of people buy the larger phone so they can have the text larger. This is why Android has that setting, for people like me who purchase the larger phone to fit more content. (I swear I'm not just gloating and will explain the setting in a sec)
 
@RyanM That's OK.... I think I can compare the iPhone XR vs. XS. They're the previous-gen models. (Yes, Apple has indeed followed suit for the rest of the industry in stupid product names.)
@RyanM iPhone does have a setting to reduce text size, which kinda-sorta accomplishes the same thing. I have my 6S set to use the smallest text possible.
 
Android has that setting too. It works, but is much worse than actually changing the logical display size.
 
You can change the text size in the settings, and as all apps should follow that scheme, you can fit more text on the screen than what the normal size allows for, but I don’t know if the higher resolution allows for a smaller size.
- yeah; you already use that.
 
But I don't know how the chart you linked on Apple Dev makes sense. It says XR is scaled 2x, whereas the XS is scaled 3x. I don't see how the math works out in that case. The XR has a resolution of 1792x828, whereas the XS has a resolution of 2436x1125.
 
I went from iPhone 6 to iPhone 11 Pro. When I tested them in the store, iPhone 11 felt like a previous generation phone, due to the screen. It somehow felt closer to the iPhone 6 than iPhone 11 Pro.
- but that might not be relevant?
 
11:21 AM
Assuming that 1792x828 is scaled 2x, that means the 1x resolution is 896x414. Scaling that by 3 would give 2688x1242. Not 2436x1125.
@Andreas Maybe so. I'm going from iPhone 6S (same as 6, at least in terms of the screen) to... something new. Haven't decided what yet. I don't see the point in the iPhone 11, since it's a physically larger screen with a lower resolution. If Apple scales everything to be the same logical resolution, then I might as well just save my money and go with the new iPhone SE.
 
@ElectionBot What are these phone-geeks talking about?
 
@CodyGray So, on mobile, layout is done in logical pixels. On Android, we call them density-independent pixels, or dp for short. They correspond to 1/160 of an inch.
The higher the screen density, the more pixels there are in 1dp, so a given piece of content is rendered over more pixels. Decreasing the logical density for a screen of a given resolution simulates a larger screen, so a given piece of content takes up fewer pixels, and you can fit more content onscreen at once.
 
@AdrianMole Still using a Motorola Razr over there?
 
Nothing so advanced.
 
@CodyGray you mean Motorola's new $1500 phone? how extravagant.
 
11:24 AM
Wow. They brought the name back?
 
Well; the iPhone 11 has gotten rid of the home button, and has a better camera, so it’s still an upgrade. Going back to a home button today, just feels like a heavy downgrade.
 
@Andreas Why is that a downgrade?
 
@RyanM ...How is that different from desktop?
Wow, so Motorola has become just a joke company. I guess that makes sense. Why not? I mean, it's not like they were selling many phones anyway.
 
Having to click a physical button, is not the exact same as just swiping a finger over a screen. The left/right swiping (switch apps) is something I’ve come to really like.
 
11:27 AM
@Andreas Can't you do left/right swiping to switch apps on the other phones? That wouldn't require omission of a home button.
It'll probably take me 6-8 months to get used to that change anyway...
 
@CodyGray less roots in everything being pixels, really.
 
@RyanM Well, okay, yes, desktop has back-compat history. But DPI is basically this same thing, just implemented imperfectly.
 
Yes, then, it's like DPI scaling that works.
 
And so the answer to the question is, no, all the phones show the same exact amount of content on the screen?
 
With a home button, you first double click, then swipe over the screen, and tap on the application to enter. Without the home button, just put the finger on the bottom of the screen, and swipe once.
 
11:29 AM
Because it just scales everything up/down to achieve the same logical size despite different physical resolutions?
 
- also; Face ID fails less often than fingerprint, and when it fails, you can just try again, and it usually works. Doesn’t work if I wear glasses, or other things covering my face, though. That’s pretty annoying.
I thought it would take me a long time to get used to no home button too, but it only took me a week or two.
 
Touch ID used to fail every 2nd or 3rd time on my iPhone 5S. It has only failed me like 10 times ever on my current 6S.
I'm not exactly disappointed with it.
 
Really? It failed constantly on my iPhone 6. Especially if I got some dirt on the button, it wouldn’t work until a few hours later.
 
I, um, wear glasses all the time. I'm given to understand those are not a problem for Face ID? I guess you mean sunglasses?
Oh. I keep my phone clean. :-)
I think 6 has the same first-gen fingerprint sensor as the 5S. 6S is the second-gen.
 
Yeah, but, not much dirt. ;P
Maybe I meant sunglasses. ;)
 
11:32 AM
I'm not cool enough for sunglasses. You can still see my eyes.
 
Well; yeah, I don’t wear glasses, so I wouldn’t know if it works with (or without) those, but yeah, I meant sunglasses. Never works with sunglasses on.
 
@RyanM In case it got lost/wasn't clear, I meant to direct my question to you: Are you saying then that all the phones just scale the UI to achieve the exact same logical resolution, despite different physical resolutions, and there's no real gain except a physically larger screen?
Every time I shop for monitors, I'm astounded by the number of 22", 25", 27", etc. screens that all have the same 1920x1080 resolution. Why would I want a giant screen that gives me the same resolution as a little 20"? I can maybe see how it makes sense for a TV, where you might be sitting across the room from it, but I'm only ever an arm's length from my monitor(s).
The point of a screen is to display more content on it, not less or the same.
 
The gain might not be in getting more things on the screen, but it looks better, scrolling doesn’t lag, pictures are more beautiful, and you see and understand more of the rendered content in games.
 
Why would scrolling not lag? How would that have anything to do with the screen size? That's going to be an effect of the CPU/GPU. If anything, having to push around more pixels to achieve the same logical resolution on a physically higher resolution screen would result in more lag.
I've never once played a game on my phone, and I don't think I'm going to be starting now. I hardly ever even take pictures, except as reminders for myself.
 
Isn't moderating SO a game?
 
11:38 AM
Stuttering, then. On a lower resolution, you clearly see how the image «jumps» one pixel at a time. That’s not a problem on iPhone 11 Pro. I clearly saw the difference between those phones in the store.
 
I'm clearly willing to pay through the nose for something that is physically able to fit in my hand/pocket but also able to show enough content to allow me to comfortably moderate SO. I'm not particularly enthused about paying a premium for something that looks slightly better.
@Andreas I'm still not sure what you mean, I guess. I've never seen anything jumping on my iPhone 6S (which would be the same as your 6 in this regard).
@AdrianMole No. Serious business!
 
@CodyGray No, it's a product decision, so it depends on the company's design choices. The chart from Apple is a good example. The iPhone 8 Plus has a larger logical size than the iPhone 8, but this isn't true of the iPhone 6 vs 6 Plus, which are the same logical size.
You have to look up for each phone what they set it to
 
@CodyGray Really? I see it on all screens with a «low» resolution, that content moves 1 pixel at a time. It’s not smooth.
 
Or just buy an Android phone and change the display size ;-)
 
@RyanM I see. Yes, the chart is helpful. I wish they had it updated.
(I now understand even less why anyone bought an iPhone 6 Plus. I stayed away from it merely because it was comically huge. Now, finding out it has the same effective resolution, that it sold more than 2 is an utter mystery.)
@RyanM If only everything else wasn't clunky and slow...
I'll be damned if I'm going to buy a phone that runs Java
 
11:44 AM
Java is not the reason for most of the performance problems experienced by Android phones, but that's a very long story, and I need sleep.
 
Could be worse.
 
So... according to this chart, iPhone 11 Pro has the same logical resolution as the iPhone X, which is basically just the iPhone 6/6S's size extended vertically due to the physically larger screen (accommodated by the omission of the home button).
 
I think the best thing for you to do, is to visit a store with those phones on display, and test them. That’s the only way you’re gonna get a complete picture of them.
 
But that chart also suggests the iPhone 6/6S would have a larger logical resolution than the iPhone 6/6S Plus, which is different from what we concluded earlier.
Yeah. Not sure if I'll be able to tell.
 
On Android, there are a couple helpful "screen info"-type apps on the store for this
 
11:50 AM
Don't really want to log into my mod account for testing purposes ;-)
 
If you’re not able to tell, is it really important? If you don’t see any difference between the lower and higher resolution, then just buy the cheapest one.
 
I dunno if Apple allows that sort of thing
 
I don't think you're supposed to install apps in the store anyway
 
Oh; test SO moderation on display phones? Probably not a good idea.
You could craft yourself a website for testing all these things, then visit that website with the phones in the store. ;P
 
I'm not a "website crafter"
 
11:55 AM
No, that’s the issue. I don’t think it would be that hard. Simple HTML page with a button that picks the next value from a list of CSS text strings, then inserts that as the style for some content on the page.
 
I should be able to tell by visiting SO without needing to log in
Except...I'll have to be able to find public Q&A, which is almost impossible if you're not logged in.
 
Maybe.
 
@CodyGray we <3 people who are testing their phone's screen size
 
Anyway. I gtg now. Have fun in here. Bye.
 
@Andreas Cheers. Thanks.
@RyanM Apparently there are <3 people who care about their phone's resolution
I'm not gonna lie, I judge people really hard for talking about a "bigger screen" when they really have a lower or equal resolution.
It's one step below typing on the mushy keyboards that you get for free with computers.
 
11:59 AM
@CodyGray so you would judge me if I talked about my desktop having a bigger screen than my phone?
 
@RyanM Depends. Does it?
I'm betting it does, since you have drunk the delicious multiple-monitor KoolAid.
 
It is lower resolution, though substantially larger.
 
So that's useless.
 
Zoe
pff
 
It's a 1440p display!
 
Zoe
12:01 PM
the only real way to display 4k is over 16x9 1080p displays
 
What am I supposed to do, suffer through attempts to render my games at 4k? :-p
 
Zoe
cough @Nick cough
 
Yeah, I wouldn't know anything about that. Rendering my text editor doesn't put much of a strain on my video card.
Rendering SO is much harder on it.
 
@RyanM Yeah, anything Electron-based is just garbage. And VS Code is similar web-based awfulness brought to the desktop.
I just don't get it.
 
12:03 PM
but really though, what resolution is your desktop monitor?
 
It's like, what is the worst thing about the web, and can we bring that to the desktop, thus successfully mitigating the last big advantage of the desktop? Yes!
 
VS Code is lovely, now that they've had a chance to evolve
Their remote editing support is amazing
 
@RyanM I have two setups. One is 4 1600x1200 screens. The other is at work, where I have a 1440p in the center flanked by two 1920x1080s on either side. In all cases, the screens on the left and right extremes are portrait. The others are landscape.
 
VS Code is Electron done right. One of the vanishingly few examples of it.
 
Too bad VS Code didn't evolve into using native controls so I don't have to deal with lag in my text editor...
 
12:05 PM
@CodyGray so my phone is higher resolution than any of your monitors
 
@RyanM Higher physical resolution, or higher logical resolution? We just discussed this. The major factor is logical resolution. If I crank that 1600x1200 screen down to 800x600, it will be crap.
The only useful metric is how much stuff can you fit on the screen. (Since, you know, that's what we do with screens.)
 
@Zoe Why didn't I get an inbox notification from this xd
 
It makes perfect sense that phones would need to be higher resolution. You can only have one screen there, so you must make it count. On desktop, I'm OK with lower-res screens because I can have multiple of them. Heck, I'd rather have multiple lower-res screens than one high-res screen because window management is easier with multiple physical monitors.
Faced with a choice of 1 1440p screen, versus 3 1280x1024 17" junkers, the choice is obvious: moar pixels!
 
@CodyGray okay but if we're talking logical, you've gotta specify that :-p Yes, the phone is substantially lower logical resolution, because I'm not a microscope disguised as a human
 
You hold it inches from your face!
 
12:08 PM
@CodyGray And that is why you need glasses :p
 
My phone's logical resolution, according to this app, is 995 by 484
@CodyGray I do no such thing
 
Really? I hold mine about 8-10 inches away
 
I hold mine 14-18" away
 
Holy crap
That's significantly further than arm's length
 
yeah, if the phone's within a foot of my face it's because there's oddly small text
 
12:10 PM
Well, it's about a fully extended arm's length
I just measured using a handy-dandy ruler.
@RyanM Ah...
52 mins ago, by Cody Gray
@RyanM iPhone does have a setting to reduce text size, which kinda-sorta accomplishes the same thing. I have my 6S set to use the smallest text possible.
I guess you could describe it as "oddly small".
 
fully extended, my arms are 29 inches long
 
an extended arm's length is 8-10"?... Cody, I'm very concerned about the size of your arms
 
You said 14-18"...
 
I don't hold mine an extended arms length away, I have bent arms :p
 
I think my arm's length is only about 15" when I'm holding a phone (since the hand has to be turned inward, it doesn't count).
Maybe I don't know how to measure? Seems right to me...
 
12:12 PM
Do you perhaps mean forearm rather than arm
if so that makes a lot more sense
 
Yes, perhaps
Does anyone not use their forearm to hold their phone?
 
well, I usually use the whole arm to keep the phone distanced from my face, since that's where it's attached to the part of my body near my face
 
I use both parts of my arm most of the time, but also have to account for the fact your forearm starts an upper arms length away from your shoulder,... it also depends on if i'm sitting down, lying down etc...
 
Having just now felt very foolish holding a tape measure up to my face, I can tell you I typically hold my phone 19 inches or so from my eyes for normal usage
 
You seriously have your arm fully extended when holding your phone? This is low-key blowing my mind. I cannot imagine. That's not even comfortable.
 
12:15 PM
Well, no fully extended my phone would be a good 28" away
 
I...think I have short arms
 
lol
 
Based on my experiments with a ruler, holding my arm pretty much fully extended, I get the phone about 18-20" away.
 
I am also, it's worth noting, very tall.
 
Right. I'm only 5'8".
Or so it says on my driver's license. I don't know how they arrived at that number, exactly.
 
12:17 PM
I grabbed a tape meassure, i hold my phone 19 inches away from my mouth (I used my mouth to anchor the tape meassure)
 
That seems absurdly far to me. Like almost to the point of uncomfortable to hold for long periods of time.
 
And I'm 5'9
 
I have only 2 feet
 
How many is that in metric?
 
Fully extending my arms gets the phone ~26 inches from my face, but that would be, as you note, a very unpleasant way to hold it
 
12:19 PM
@CodyGray If I'm sat up straight, I keep my phone a a couple inches short of my knee
 
According to my driver's license, I'm 6'3", which is about right
 
You guys have your height on your driver's license? That's bizarre :p
 
@AdrianMole 1 inch = 2.54 cm
 
@Nick Also my hair color, eye color, weight, sex, organ donor status, and what kind of spiders I'm most afraid of.
One of those may have been made up
 
@Nick You look down at it? That's horrible for your neck. Why not pick the phone up to eye level, or at least close?
 
12:22 PM
@CodyGray Because then I have to suspend my phone in the air in front of me
 
^^^^
 
Which is horrible for my arms
 
Yes, that's why God gave you arms
 
@RyanM Only 1 of them?!
 
And that's why you don't hold your arms fully extended; that gets uncomfortable. You hold them with the elbow bent.
@Nick Yes... only one. The rest are all really there.
Even our name is on our driver's licenses!
 
12:23 PM
I mean, i do have the slight advantage I sit with my legs crossed, so the knee it's near is slightly raised
 
@Nick Yes, the rest are really actually on a California driver's license
The bear with a star in the upper right means they verified I live where I said I do.
 
How you hold your phone: Exhibit 1 and Exhibit 2
@RyanM I thought it meant you were a bear's butt. (Located right about... here!)
 
My phone is about 18" away (horizontally) and 5" below eye-line (to the top of the screen)
(sat down)
 
@CodyGray I don't think I point my head down that much, I try to look like my eyes. No point pointing my face at it.
 
That's OK for a quick glance, but what about longer sessions?
 
12:26 PM
Who uses their phone for longer sessions?
 
I bring the phone up, level the head off, straighten the eyes...
 
Usually the longer sessions are lying down, reading before bed or when I get up
 
@Nick People without another computer nearby
 
That's where they're going wrong in life :joy:
 
speaking of which, when did it become 5:30am?!
g'night everyone
 
12:27 PM
o/
I don't generally use my phone for more than a minute at a time (if I do it's a phone call and the phone is by my ear)
 
What if you are, say, out somewhere, waiting for something, and need to pass the time by handling a few flags?
Like standing in line at the grocery store? Or waiting for a table at a restaurant?
 
Whatsapp has a web client so I use that at home and when I'm out I look my phone to read a message and I respond while mostly looking where I'm going and periodically checking for mistakes
Depends, if I have a heavy basket, my phone will stay in my back pocket, if not, the same stands, I'll check it if and when there's a message. Waiting for a table at a restaurant, I'll speak to the people I'm waiting with, because I don't go to restaurants on my own
Although I generally book tables so don't have to wait
I'm just one of those weird people that doesn't stick that close to their phones :p
 
What do you Brits mean by "basket"?
Hmm, yeah, I eat out alone a lot.
 
 
Oh, okay. So...why would the heaviness of that have anything to do with your phone?
 
12:36 PM
because it's more comfortable to hold it with 2 hands if it's heavy and I don't have 3 hands
 
@Nick What do other people call it?
 
Idk, I've never heard it called anything besides a shopping basket
 
Oh, I couldn't really tell how many hands you had from your profile pic. I still just hold it with 1.
@Dharman Yeah, it's a basket or shopping basket. I just thought he meant something else, because how heavy my basket is has nothing to do with how/if I hold my phone.
 
It's more a comfort thing, if I get a phone call then I will take it while holding the basket with 1 hand, if not i'll just hold it with 2 supporting it against my front
 
Does the mass (or even weight) of the basket change as you put items into it?
 
12:39 PM
ummm
The mass of the basket including its contents does, yes
 
@AdrianMole Not with my antigravity cheat enabled. Otherwise, yes.
 
Does the mass of a hard disk increase as you write data to it?
 
I normally keep it disabled, due to undesirable side-effects
 
@AdrianMole No, but an SSD does
 
@AdrianMole Yes
 
12:41 PM
Fun fact, 10 years ago the internet weighed about as much as a strawberry
 
@CodyGray Something very similar to that happened in a conversation between a traveller I know and a security agent at Munich airport. Laptop weight was wrong, so the Traveller explained that it was because his hard disk was full. Security agent: "OK, on you go..."
 
Shopping trolleys (shopping carts?) are different, but my local shop doesn't have them, and I live alone so rarely need them even at larger shops
 
Actually... the mass of an HDD might increase as you write data to it, due to the way data is physically written. But it would only increase by an essentially immeasurable quantity
An SSD wouldn't, as it's solid-state
 
@CodyGray electrons have mass
 
Entropy change implies mass change.
 
12:45 PM
Are you saying Quantum Field Theory is wrong, @Nick?
 
@CodyGray My physics knowledge is limited, explain what that has to do with it ^^"
 
Well, QFT predicts that electrons would be massless
 
Quantum Field Theory is sometimes wrong and sometimes not wrong. At the same time.
 
That's a prediction though, observation so far says that they do
(Some 9.1093837015(28)E-31kg apparently)
 
Rob
Massless at rest, but not in reality
 
12:47 PM
Electrons have zero rest mass. But, if they stop, they don't exist.
ninja'd
 
And this is why I stopped studying phsyics....
 
Because you have SO?
 
I needed something more grounded
no? only me?
I'll see myself to the door
 
The reason that doesn't work is a ground is essentially an object with an infinite number of electrons. So, talking about electrons is very grounded.
 
...
 
12:50 PM
I guess I have high standards for puns
 
I joined SO while at uni, a couple years after I last studied physics
And I'm only 25..., so it's been about 8 years since I did any physics
 
The last time you studied physics was pre-university?
 
I did a little bit of "space science" [at uni] which had orbital mathematics, but that's about it
nothing low level
Other than that, it's only little bits I've picked up along the way
 
I see. Orbital mathematics would be fun if you actually did it while in orbit.
(inb4 we're all in orbit around the sun!)
 
Damn, ninjad
I got as far as "I was in orb"
 
12:58 PM
It's unusual that it worked. Normally, the rebuttals I come up with, nobody else ever even considered.
 
You had the advantage that I had to read what you said and contrary to what I've been saying... I'm currently on my phone
 
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is currently in the nomination phase with 6 candidates. I can answer frequently-asked questions about the election - type @ElectionBot help for more info.
 
Zoe
@Nick because it takes 15m unless you turn on fast notifications
 
@Zoe Fast notifications?
 
1:07 PM
I see! thanks
 
I can even turn it on for you, if you like :-p
 
seriously? owo
 
Yeah, I'm a nice guy
I still feel like "owo" is a typo for "wow"...
 
blame Zoe, I talk to her too much
 
Zoe
>.>
It's not all my fault <.<
 
1:14 PM
Keep telling yourself that :p
 
Zoe
Oh, yeah!
Good idea! :P
 
2:12 PM
@Nick You mean it was small?
 
Zoe
2:32 PM
No, the literal weight of the electrons in the internet or something weighed as much as a strawberry
 
How big was the strawberry?
 
@AdrianMole They were the size of dinosaurs, but eventually, they evolved.
 
I mean, the "Strawberry" is not (as far as I'm aware) a recognized unit of mass in the S.I.
 
Zoe
> 50g
 
That's a BIG strawberry.
 
2:34 PM
You must get small strawberries in glasgow :p
 
Zoe
> 1 extra-large strawberry (1 5/8-inch diameter) 27 grams
 
Visitors from the North-East eat all the biggies.
 
;)
 
Zoe
oh, see?
> Using some very rough maths, it's been estimated that the internet weighs about the same as a medium-sized egg.
And:
> Here's the full explanation of the 50 gram weight estimate for the internet, which Vsauce says is the same as a strawberry. It would have to be a very large strawberrry though:
 
you can't use egg sizes, everyone measures them differently :p
we've discussed this
 
2:36 PM
Hen egg? Sparrow egg? Ostrich egg? We need clarity.
 
And if sparrow, African or European
 
Zoe
No, y'all are wrong
 
or was that a swallow
 
Indeed.
 
Zoe
There's only one type of egg that can be used to measure relative egg sizes: raptor eggs
 
2:37 PM
Eggsactly. {hides}
 
Is that raptor the bird or Velociraptor? or Deinonychus?
 
Zoe
There's only one type of raptor, nick :P
 
You're right!
Rex Raptor from Yu-Gi-Oh!
 
Zoe
Who? xd
 
H-He was the guy with the dinosaur deck
 
Zoe
2:39 PM
With the what?
 
*sobs in card game*
 
Huatli's Raptor is quite a nice card... and Marauding Raptor is nice if you can pull it off :p
 
:joy:
 
2:54 PM
I believe there was a misunderstanding about my declined flag. Can I flag it again?
 
Yes, but there's the potential for it to be declined again if you're not more clear
 
Which flag are you referring to? If it was a custom flag and you feel you can add more information that might result in a different decision it might be worth a go, but otherwise, you're likely to get the same response.
 

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