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weird. got a lot of rep yesterday (UTC)
 
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06:12
is dev.stackoverflow.com pageload hanging for anyone else?
not that I was ever able to really use that site, but at least it would load and I could browse sources
@starball immediately redirects to dev.stackoverflow.com/users/login?ssrc=beta&returnurl=%2f and then loads that page
@RyanM weird. I clicked your thing and it worked, then loaded dev.stackoverflow.com again and it worked. but it wasn't working before.
the heck
Weird. Glad it works now!
Also, given that it's a dev instance, there's a nontrivial possibility it was just broken briefly :-p
@starball brb suspending you for voting irregularities :-p
Really, though, it looks like you just got a bunch of upvote/accepts :-p
Apparently somebody uploaded a dump to the web archive archive.org/details/stackexchange_20240630 Doesn't seem to be complete, though - the last item alphabetically is "tridion.meta.stackexchange.com.7z"
Rob
Rob
Looks to be an old version though, 30th June
06:27
@RyanM Yeah, even if I get two upvotes, I feel weird. It's just not something that happens to me often. Except maybe if I've posted an answer today. But getting two+ upvotes on old content always catches me off-guard.
@RyanM yeah. I always wonder though when it happens. especially if it's after a period of getting fewer upvotes than average. like- was there some sort of national holiday somewhere? did a bunch of students finish and exam period?
@Rob Yeah, but there was no dump at that point. The last one was from April (well, it covers end of March) and it's supposed to be quarterly. So, they probably named it in honour of that.
@VLAZ whenever it happens to me I wonder if I'm being serially upvoted. Then I remember I have a handful of self-answered questions and sometimes people upvote both the question and answer :-p
@VLAZ you mean on the same old post? or any two old posts getting upvoted in a day? if you mean the latter, I shall launch my primed "*sneers" message
Rob
Rob
@VLAZ Ah yeah, you may be right
06:30
Surprising that archive.org doesn't have checksums shown on the content pages...
@starball Any votes. On one post or multiple posts. It just doesn't happen to me often enough. Occasionally I get one upvote on something old. But two+ is exceedingly rare and it always feels weird.
@RyanM Yeah. Also, it will show the files before they are fully uploaded. That might be why this one is incomplete. It was a problem with the SE authored dumps as well. They'd start uploading the files but to actually know it's complete, you need to check if all the files have a recent timestamp.
I mean, come on, web archive. I love you for what you do, and that's why I know you can do better than this.
@VLAZ *sneers
(in jest :) )
Oh no, jest is my only weakness! *starts melting*
currently trying to shoehorn my SE UI to prefer the short versions of internal links to posts everywhere
it's kind of working
emphasis on kind of :(
07:10
I'm starting to be able to tell with some accuracy who authored a comment or answer post on meta without looking at the user card
08:10
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Q: Why does tag "file-io" refer to (non-existing) tag "fileinput"?

U. WindlWhen asking a question related to file input, I was examining the suggested tag completions. The "info bubble" for tag "file-io" says "also: fileinput", but I could not find a tag named like that (according to tag completion). Furthermore, when trying to fix the metadata for tag "file-io" I could...

@NewPosts Do we not have a canonical that explains what synonyms are on MSO? I found the MSE one but can't seem to find any here
@AbdulAzizBarkat Noting in the FAQ index, at least.
It might really be missing. A bit unusual but I've seen some topics are only on MSE not on MSO.
08:29
Well, I can't see anything in this query. Basically, I tried to find anything on synonyms that's not about tag handling (retag/burnination/etc). I may have missed it, so feel free to have a look - it's 175 results total
08:49
There is the help center stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/suggest-tag-synonyms but reading it now it's just not great. It claims synonyms are for fixing wrong tags. But that's not really the case. The tags have to be correct to be synonymisied.
 
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Q: How come "Get more reputation" is regarded as a common solution for low reputation related issues?

A-TechI recently had a look at some feature requests regarding the review-queues and even made one myself. One thing that struck me as rather odd (and is not limited to my search) is the recurring suggestion to essentially "just get more reputation" to fix any issue for low reputation users (such as my...

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Q: Actual question is too generic, MRE is an "X/Y" issue?

Leo JiangI've been encountering this issue a lot on SO in the past few years. If I ask my actual question, people say it's too broad, (e.g. CSS gets stuck in the ":active" state?). If I break it down into a specific question, people start saying "just do Y instead" or "why do you even need this" (e.g. For...

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Q: Why we don't have any collective for Front-End Development & JavaScript Community?

Rohìt JíndalOverview: The proposed site will focus on the rapidly evolving field of Front-End Development, with a particular emphasis on JavaScript and related technologies. This collective will serve as a dedicated space for web developers to discuss, share knowledge, and collaborate on all aspects of front...

@NewPosts pretty sure it's been touched by AI. Maybe just re-written/formatted by one but still.
Doesn't matter. Reads as pure AI
same with their questions on main, but not their answers
I'd do something about it, but I still don't have access to the heuristics team (all I'd need to do is ask, but I don't want to :p), and the entire AI crap deletion process now has so much logistical overhead that I just don't want to
pretty sure that question was on MSE some time ago as well
@Zoe-Savethedatadump Yes, because it's pretty much crap. It doesn't consistently talk about a colleective, doesn't even make coherent arguments why one is needed. It points out advantages that already exist.
@A-Tech Yes, it was reposted 1:1 from MSE to MSO.
I also reposted my comment 1:1
@Zoe-Savethedatadump You should probably flag it for moderator attention :P
@VLAZ also, I have never seen a human, outside artificial settings and academia, write "the rapidly evolving field of XYZ In Title Case" - and that still has to be a very specific type of paper to even get that wording
@VLAZ Or I could leave a comment pointing it out and wait for other people with heuristic access to do the dirty work for me :p
10:51
@Zoe-Savethedatadump Well, it's marketing speak. I think I've only really seen it in stuff like move or story descriptions, though.
But, I guess it could be argued that's also not humans who write these.
@VLAZ I included that in artificial settings, but yeah. In the ever-evolving field of marketing, that's one of the many dumb ways they overinflate the rapidly growing value of Their Incredible Product:tm:. Buy now for 69% off^1^2^3^4^5^6^7
In other news, the B variant of the tag experiment seems to be deployed now. I used to be in the C group with a "Follow" button. Now it says "Watch".
Still no Ignore button on the tag page
@NewPosts oh boy seems like my current question aren't that popular on MSO
@VLAZ that I also find a weird thing to remove
Yes. And not even say it would be removed.
If they didn't say it was supposed to be removed, report it as a bug :)
11:05
@A-Tech Well, I questioned its removal. SE are engaging in the usual radio silence. I expect it would take them few weeks, or even months, before they try to "fix" it. Probably muck up something in the process. Or even misunderstand what they should have even done. You know - the usual.
@VLAZ I'm currently in group A, seen group C yesterday. I think the experiment is still running and they haven't deployed yet
@AbdulAzizBarkat OK, apparently I'm in group B on the current machine, group C on another.
I'm pretty sure I was in group C in both, though. I know it's not account-bound, so you could be in different groups. But I'm fairly sure I've seen C on both machines.
hm I'm in group A everywhere
@A-Tech Enjoy it while it lasts.
12:02
FYI 3 people somehow manage to get over 2k rep within joining this year data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1855316
Something cant be right: stackoverflow.com/users/23512643 joined 5 months ago, but has activity since 2020. Was an account merged or something?
Oh wow those numbers are dropping quite a lot, I joined in 2021, and looking at my rep history I'd hit 2k in less than a month (I was much more active in answering at that time as I had quite a lot of free time on my hands)
@A-Tech Yes it's most likely a merge, I remember seeing similar reports on Meta
@AbdulAzizBarkat i can tell... over 800 answers hats off!
can you see somehow if/when an account was merged like to improive the query
@A-Tech Hmm, but no that query is flawed as it doesn't consider that many of the people have gained that rep over time
@A-Tech Ah, I was just coming to post my version of the query
But 3 people is still quite less
12:14
Could be merges, BTW
@AbdulAzizBarkat Yes, apparently I'm also coming in to post my version of this.
One of the users earned 825/2101 rep from bounties. And they have 70 answers. Seems reasonable.
the user with 5.7k rep is probably a merge - they have rep changes from 2021
IMO if you're consistent in watching a somewhat popular tag and answering every day it's not that difficult to get 2k. If you're picky with questions (which is part of the reason I answer quite less now, I was much less picky with questions before) though this might be difficult.
And the user with 4.9k rep seems to just have posted a lot: 269 answers + 2 questions. About 18 rep on average per post.
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Q: Rename "centrifuge" tag to "centrifugo" tag

AbraAccording to this webpage "centrifuge" changed its name to "centrifugo". Therefore I think that the "centrifuge" tag should be renamed to "centrifugo". I see people are asking questions about "centrifugo" but having to tag the questions with "centrifuge". I also think that changing the tag name w...

@AbdulAzizBarkat one of the languages I use has about 20 questions. So tough one.
I do some web dev as well which makes it possible to get points. Also a lot of edits got almost half my points form edits
Yeah, I see how that can be difficult. IMO the edit privilege is probably one of the low hanging fruits the company can try to move away from reputation. But obviously they don't do anything in that direction.
12:32
True, but when proposals gets dismissed with "get more rep" that doesn't help. Besides that, the entire privilege system assumes easy to get points, but given that SO is not in a growing phase i dont see that working to well.
13:13
@AbdulAzizBarkat It's simple - they should add one more text field to edit for each post. /s
 
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> So sorry to bother you with unhelpful ideas.
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Q: Incorrect link in discussion flagging dialogue

FastnlightIn the discussion flagging dialogue, there is an incorrect link: This link goes to https://stackoverflow.com/promotion, which results in a 404 error. The link should go to https://stackoverflow.com/help/promotion instead.

Oo, i know how they could fix that
@NewPosts Simple solution: remove Discussions
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Q: Staging ground review action buttons display error when browser window is not maximized

YnjxsjmhAs shown in the following picture, when the browser window is not maximized, staging ground review action buttons css overflows. This happens on: Firefox 115.14.0esr (64-bit) on Windows 11 It also happens on my Google Chrome on a Windows 10 machine, but I can't access that machine now and coul...

 
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Q: Why was the question deleted, if it wasn’t breaking the rules?

Kirill Lanskoy I have a question about my Stack Overflow post: Are Qt and wxWidgets suitable for mobile and desktop game-development? I have two questions: where can I find a description of what the meta does? And why was the question deleted if it didn't ask for recommendations?

18:08
"Why was the question deleted, if it wasn’t breaking the rules?" Simple, it was breaking the rules

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