@OlegValteriswithUkraine I assume you've heard there's an opening for Chief Product Officer? (I hadn't heard this prior to someone just recently sharing the link with me, but I was out of the loop and not reading MSE.)
@KevinB When we "elect" our AI overlords after they evict us human troublemakers? Nah, that doesn't sound fun to me.
@VLAZ That's... that's not the other shoe that Zoe and/or I have referred to. Maybe you've already been told this. I have no idea. I, obviously, picked the absolute worst time to resume trying to keep up with transcripts.
@CodyGray Yes, I understand. The inaccuracy there being that there is just so many shoes around right now. For context: for my message, at the time, the first shoe was the "leaked" policy change and the other shoe was the official announcement of that policy. These two shoes themselves seem to be nested in one bigger shoe. With another one scheduled to drop this week. Apparently.
The best I could make DALL-E output. Trying with "raining shoes" and "shoes raining from the sky" did show shoes left out on the rain or just being hanged on stuff. So this is "shoes falling from the sky".
> You last voted on this question May 20 at 21:44. Your vote is now locked in unless this question is edited.
not to be confused, of course, with the default suspension template for reviewers who should have picked "Looks OK" in the Low quality answers queue:
> For these reviews in the Low quality answers review queue, the Looks OK action would have been more appropriate because nothing was wrong with these questions.
I don't want to see that message on my screen at all times, and I'm a huge non-fan of invasive stuff popping up on hover, not to mention that being unsuitable for mobile devices.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just trying to translate Kevin-speak to Cody-speak.
But since you ask, perhaps you can have a visual indicator on the vote. Random half-baked idea - a dotted outline for "you can change this" or solid outline for "this is locked in".
Probably not super informative if you're not familiar, though.
Dunno what the exact specific would be. But in general, you could have a non-intrusive indication.
I realized that the new "[...] Code of Conduct" banner on the SO site is displayed using a light theme, even if the website is displayed using the dark theme:
But on the stackoverflow meta website, the banner is showing using the dark theme even if the website is using a light theme:
My brows...
@RyanM I don't even think it is. Like Cerbrus pointed out, it's consistent - it's always contrasting with the main theme. Dark mode -> light banner. Light mode -> dark banner.
OK, reviewed the screenshots in the question. I think I get where the confusion comes from - the Meta screenshot shows dark notification on dark background. But the dark background is not due to dark mode. Just happens to be the top banner thing. Which...I mean, is it not a sort of notification anyway? It's only shown if you're not logged in.
In effect, seems that you can just get two stacked notifications (well, somewhat loosely using the term).
So, the notifications are themselves consistent. Just match colour scheme.
@CodyGray Doesn't look like it (query only includes users with at least 5 long comments)
Unsurprising: Over a quarter of Makyen's MSO comments are within 10 characters of the limit. They are the only person with least 100 comments of whom this is the case.
They are a wide spectrum of people out there. Just because they did XYZ years of study does not make them necessarily perfect. Same thing could apply for the reverse too
Honestly, I get disliking the buttons. But overall, the sentiment seems to be "GET THEM AWAY ASAP". I don't share it but seems enough people are on this wave. They probably try to support any such effort.
> Please change the current processing of the new design up/down voting clickable area ("voting buttons") feature by reverting and re-introducing it as a user-toggle.
This was clear enough to me.
> I would feel honored to have the original behavior without much interruption and then becoming able to test the new design as an option in a more controlled manner.
Basically, I'd prefer that it be an option. And at the very least, I'd prefer that the rollout not have been rushed, and that the design be able to be tested in order to shake out the bugs first.
Their writing style is terrible, I'll grant you that, but this isn't sheer incoherent babble.
If there weren't already other better posts asking for stuff like this, I'd have edited this one (with, admittedly, a near-complete rewrite). Given that there are, as you said, I'm not bothering.
> However for me not the what the bug but how to fix, the suggestion I can contribute is more important.
Honestly, this very broken English makes it sound like to me that they honestly are requesting exactly that, an overhaul of the whole design/development/release process. Mainly to include the ability for users to opt in and out of stuff, but also to release it more slowly and with more testing.
@CodyGray Erm, many people actually do. Many times a FR is posted and somebody would say that it's infeasible for the devs to do it. On MSE in particular, several users love to try and close any bug/FR they personally feel doesn't work.
> An earlier version of the post had ... language which resulted in many misunderstandings, not limited to that this posting was read as a technical bug report, which was not my intention.
@NordineLotfi Look, a toggle might work in general but not for SE. SE seem to really dislike introducing options to the UI. And probably with good reason, given what we've seen in terms of feature roll outs and bugs, their codebase seems to be borderline unmaintainable. So, I can see why they wouldn't implement it.
> Also please show the mandatory, technically verifiable acceptance criteria for changes like these before announcing to start developing such a change to prevent unnecessary time spend until first results can be gathered.
it'd probably benefit from just deleting most of the post, at least, but I'm not sure it's worth it when it'd be better off starting from scratch, especially with the answer
@VLAZ *puts on pedant hat* That changes the meaning/intent of the post. They're asking for the process to be changed, not merely the buttons to be reverted.
@VLAZ yes, about time - needed them to finish reworking SpotDetector. My rework's been sitting on its ass for half a year because of that. Oh, wait, it doesn't matter anymore - thanks, SE!
@CodyGray To fulfill my curiosity, could you elaborate on what would be accomplished by raising the moderator flag? Would the mods nudge the bounty setter to award an answerer? Or do they actually have the ability to award the bounty themselves? — Clint Warner37 mins ago
So, you're saying I need to keep creating new accounts and reposting my questions frequently in order to ensure that they'll be seen? — Cody Gray ♦May 25 at 5:31
@CodyGray While you're at it, you could vote for the other accounts' questions, too. And preferably post on meta about it. — Ryan M ♦May 25 at 6:19
it's something I found a couple years back when I was curious about other base encoding...it's basically just taking the number representation of a string, and printing that much A
I don't know why they explained it so complicated but yeah
Does SE now promote disinformation regarding the mRNA adverse reactions? The imaginative Misinformation Policy now states among other things "Promotes widely disproven claims regarding individual or public health, including but not limited to the safety of vaccines, or the intended usage, benefit...
I mean, one seriously can't make it more obvious. The other references on climate change had the same problem: a presentation hosted by oil energy advocates.
One either needs to be trolling to persistently spread conspiracy theories and conservative propaganda about these subjects, or just be so stuck in the web of lies while also being stupidly vocal about it.
@Enet4 At best, and one needs a really really big mound of salt for this, the user is trying to argue that the CoC policy for "misinformation" is unreliable because one can find a source that claims anything.
However, even then I really don't think they are effectively arguing that.
@NordineLotfi The way it's posed makes it rather convincing that they believe in the conspiracies and takes issue with the CoC being explicitly against them. Go figure.
Although not all of them. One past episode of No Bad Take Comes Aloneincludes: "I would suggest that the incorporation of elements of jurisprudence into downvoting would be appropriate to alleviate the "programmer's funk" on this site. For example [...], would be a new ability to challenge a downvote."
I actually didn’t notice that it was a link to an answer by that troll, until after I sent the message. So I was pointing out the irony of SE asking for feedback, and also ignoring us.
@VLAZ Yeah, I recognized the account. And the post excerpt in the chat contains enough for me to make a conclusion…
Maybe Carl is angry at SE, like the rest of us, and now just posts trash to make time pass.
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Also SE: reverts their entire announcement policy to 2019, screws over the community's moderation efforts, ...
> The disinformation on this site is atrocious. For example, CDC statistics were deleted when it didn't fit the narrative. You are political activists, and bad actors at that.
there already people using it in their real job 100% of the time, and piping the chat message from their Teams/Skype/whatever social work account to OpenAI api, and outputting it back. Some people complained about this on Workplace.SE
I've written a question on stack exchange with the new ui and it's straight up stuck.
It shows do a final review:
But then doesn't let me progress, at all!
How do I get out of this? what is wrong? why won't it let me post???
There is not even a hint on what should be done next, or why it is stu...