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Q: Questions Keep Returning "Minimal Reproducible Example" Error

Vinny2021I have been trying to ask my question, here, on StackOverflow. I have tried to include as much detail as I think is relevant and helpful for someone looking at this problem for the first time. However, the comment I keep getting back is "Create a Minimal Reproducible Example". I genuinely do not ...

 
 
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4:42 AM
years?? Seems like they need to hire more developers... — Samuel Liew 4 mins ago
Maybe just needs more cowbell gen AI
 
 
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8:59 AM
@VLAZ I mean, they did just fire 30% of the engineering team
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine You can have more interns for the same amount of money they spent on those employees. So just wait a while, and we’ll eventually see more qualified people. :)
 
 
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10:40 AM
@SamuelLiew what fortunate timing, some positions just opened upVLAZ 6 hours ago
:P
 
I'm really happy they haven't posted any new jobs in engineering (yet)
Doing that right or shortly after firing 30% is just the biggest "fuck you" that can be given
 
10:53 AM
Why do you need engineers, if you have AI?
:gigabrain:
 
11:18 AM
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Q: Is question on replacement of library off-topic or not?

sorosh_sabzSome programming library has been deprecated in times, my question is, Asking to replacement of the deprecated library is off-topic? I am not sure this question type is example of Questions asking us to recommend or find a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource are off...

 
11:54 AM
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Q: How to move a log peorperty to root using .netcore ILogger

Abolfazl PourmohammadI'm a .net core developer we have multiple projects that communicate using Rest API. All errors have been logged into MongoDB. To detect the application that has error we added a property Named ApplicationName as shown below: our logged data is as below: We use C# mongo driver in our applicati...

 
12:35 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine given that what is likely the reason behind layoffs, it's unlikely they will. Unless those positions will be named "prompt engineer" - can't think of a better slap-in-the-face opening :)
@VLAZ just checking - any thoughts on the "not in English" guidance draft? I am going to publish it in the next few days, but wanted to collect as much feedback as possible prior to that.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine sure, but don't underestimate a CEO that shouldn't be a CEO's ability to think otherwise
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Haven't reviewed it. I'll have a look later today
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship a fellow aficionado, I see :) I used to have a huge collection of Lego too
@VLAZ thnaks in adavance! :)
@ZoestandswithUkraine I hope SE isn't that tone-death...
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine with bad management, anything can happen
And with bad protection for workers...
 
heh, true - you can't sack people like that even where I am from
 
12:48 PM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Same. I never had any figurine/special collection of Lego though, just the usual vanilla brick.
recently I tried to make a computer case using Lego but stopped because I didn't have the right plate for the top and bottom of the case
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Lego is life.
 
but when you step on it it's pain
 
@NordineLotfi Apologize to the Lego for hurting it!
 
ah, I meant that hypothetically...I didn't step on one since years ago
but I still remember the pain vividly
 
Then imagine the pain that the Lego must’ve gone through, from having all your weight on it.
 
12:56 PM
@NordineLotfi o_O
what did y'all make me do! Now I want the Eiffel Tower
used to have a huge collection of Architecture
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship to be honest, I don't recall putting all my weight. I just lightly touched it with the back of my foot. But I get what you mean
 
I tried building something using Lego and with the help of ChatGPT, but I only got pain on the first step...
3
 
@NordineLotfi some traumatic memories right there
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I know it sounds strange. I didn't want to make a closed case because of fire hazard and potential melting smell, so I put holes in the case. I wanted to use it as a quick testing case for new possible components. It was also supposed to be stationary, since it's pretty fragile if it was to be moved around
I know some people on youtube and various blogs made stronger case by using aluminum and other fabric/material with legos. Some even 3D printed their own custom lego bricks using different material, and then mixed both the plastic ones and theirs for stronger build
 
@NordineLotfi no, no, it actually doesn't sound strange to me :) Just didn't expect anyone I know to attempt it
 
1:02 PM
Lego Technic was my thing. I used to make RC cars and tanks.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine yep...
@OlegValteriswithUkraine got you
@Andreasdetestscensorship I really wanted to get one of those before, but never did for some reasons
 
@NordineLotfi Oh, but I custom-built every one of them.
It made for some weird designs.
 
really? but how would you do that (for Lego Technic?)
I could understand if you used 3D printing or something though
 
@NordineLotfi That’s actually quite awesome. I always wanted to make something useful with the Lego, but I didn’t have enough to do it, and Lego is so expensive.
@NordineLotfi No, I did it 15 years ago. Was 3D printing a thing back then?
@NordineLotfi I’m not sure if I understand?
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship Thanks, still not finished because of the Lego plate...I planned to ask on the brick.SE but didn't yet since I need to make a detailed post about what I want to find
@Andreasdetestscensorship I don't think it was unless maybe on an industrial side?
 
1:08 PM
Oh, we have an SE site for Lego… I didn’t know that. :P
@NordineLotfi And not something me as a child would have hands on. :P
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship ah, I was just curious how you did it, so 3D printing came to mind
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Only if I get the LAAT gunship.
@NordineLotfi Well, I just put together the different Technic parts. Not sure how I can explain it any better. :P
 
oh, got you
I thought you meant you made each Technic parts from scratch (as in, from raw material)
 
What, no, absolutely not. :P
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship It's this one if you're curious: bricks.stackexchange.com misspelled it earlier...
@Andreasdetestscensorship I mean, doesn't hurt to make sure...you never know these days
 
1:13 PM
> imho there should be some kind of blocking downwote without comment/reason
wy the downwotes
we should punish downwotes without weason
 
@NordineLotfi Not safe. Just gonna make me envious.
@Enet4 There was a very serious request for that popping up in SOCVR not long ago.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship Did that also include a definition for downwotes?
> another great example of ridiculous downvote fairies doing their thing on SO..
I am a pretty downvote fairy
 
@Enet4 No, it was from mickmackusa, one of the regulars.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship I figured.
 
Great, now I wanna go hunt wabbits
 
1:17 PM
@Enet4 Have a kiss.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship you sounds like me
 
@aynber Yikes! I knew I should've placed that downvote before taking that turn at Albuquerque!
 
I mainly didn't go there since I was afraid of what I'll saw, and then might have wanted to get, before seeing the price
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship It ain't serious until it hits Meta and survives there.
:)
 
@aynber wabbit season :O
 
1:20 PM
@Enet4 It was a long discussion.
And also, for the common health of humanity: Lego should be free.
 
If I can buy something priced at a cheap price made of plastic, but can't get the same price or less just for the amount of plastic the first thing used in Lego, then it's not cheap
I know that in the UK, some store sell new Lego brick for extremely cheap (you pay in weight I think)
I'm so jealous I might plan to go there one day just for getting Lego bricks
 
@NordineLotfi Duck season!
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine yeah, but that's what the US gets for 200 years of undermining workers' rights
 
@NordineLotfi I did buy some Lego in Britain. It was cheaper there. But, going just for Lego… expensive trip, expensive luggage, it’ll hurt your lungs due to bad air quality, seeing all the poverty will mentally hurt you… all the drugs everywhere will make you crazy… Yeah, that’ll be an expensive trip.
 
ah yeah, the trip would be expensive hmm
 
1:24 PM
So send your friend instead.
@aynber Duck is yum.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship wat
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine You can send them to a trench, though. They’ll eventually end up as cannon fodder. See? Effective way of getting rid of your workers.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship I have a slight aversion to duck now. Made it for Christmas one year. Tried cutting it, got too greasy while cutting it... got a huge gash in my hand. Never again
not enough breast meat for the effort
 
@aynber :P Duck for Christmas. That one’s new to me.
 
if it looks like a chicken, maybe it is a chicken
 
1:28 PM
@aynber I went to a restaurant in Indonesia once, and got a burnt duck. :P
 
@aynber Now that I think about it, I don't think Warner even did a Chicken season
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Wicked Ass Touch?
 
WAT
 
@Enet4 Water At Transport.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship sigh, heay, always wanted to get a set from the SW collector's series, never got one :( And nowadays looking at those prices (not to mention that I personally, for a well-known reason, can't buy one officially) triggers an unsettling feeling of dread
 
1:33 PM
@Andreasdetestscensorship I like trying new foods for Christmas. Done pretty well so far, except that duck. But I also made chicken that year
@NordineLotfi No, but Foghorn Leghorn did come close a few times
 
@aynber Us Norwegians always have the same few 2-3 dishes for Christmas, year after year.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine quite so. Although I believe "the US" itself is perfectly fine with the state of affairs, it's the workforce that isn't.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship Every family has their own traditions. I usually make the same sides every year
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine oh, yeah. And large companies bribe politicians to keep it that way
 
@aynber oh, you're right :o
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine yeah, well, large companies have their way with this everywhere. If it was up to me, as soon as a company reached a certain size in assets, it would be mandatory split into smaller ones.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine :(
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Not in places with proper corruption protection
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine how did I manage to spell "yeah" backwards..?
@ZoestandswithUkraine also true
 
Or rather, not to an as great extent in places with corruption protection
 
1:42 PM
@Andreasdetestscensorship :( indeed. Wanted collector's edition X-wing for years when I was young (the first one, before updates - the huge one)
 
In the US, it's normal and even expected, and most people just seem to be fine with it
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship Yum
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Never seen that one…
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship this one xD Back when the collector's series was called "UCS"
 
So, I was thinking: when we’ve all had enough of Zoe (because she’s so annoying, or something ;)), do we send her to USA? Is that were we dump her?
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Oh, that one looks cool. They’re still called UCS, though.
 
1:48 PM
@Andreasdetestscensorship yeah, there also was a Tie-fighter (2000s series) and a 1.5 meters-long Super Star Destroyer (2011). The latter I still want to have :) brickipedia.fandom.com/wiki/10221_Super_Star_Destroyer
 
If I one day get rich, I’m gonna buy all the UCS sets.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine oh, no, that's the new one. There was an original one that's massive
@Andreasdetestscensorship I do own the London Bridge and Taj Mahal ones :) Still shudder from the thought of how much money was wasted on them.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Lego is never a waste of money.
 
that is true
although it's a huge money waster
 
2:30 PM
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Q: Rename Google Maps Advanced Marker View tag

MrUpsidownThe Google Maps Advanced Marker View has been renamed to Advanced Marker Element. We have the corresponding tag: google-maps-advanced-marker-view Could we rename this to reflect the new naming? I would suggest using google-maps-advanced-marker-element.

 
 
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3:40 PM
@NewPosts @OlegValteriswithUkraine careful, suggesting updates to the old editor might result in the new editor being put there
 
@KevinB I think we are going to get the new one no matter what :)
 
🤮
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Sure, but if we delay the mainstream launch by 4 years, it might not be as horrible
It'll still suck, tbf, but it might resemble something that could be usable
 
It won’t suck. It’ll have a button that says «fill». When you click it, their new AI will magically fix every problem, and write the text for you. So no, it won’t suck. It’ll puke.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine, to be honest, it is in a much better state now than it was a year ago - although I'd give it a year or two of development more before unleashing it on the public too. Alas, it's already partially live...
 
3:51 PM
it'll be even more live in a few months
 
yeah, and let's keep it that way
They're not going to revert the rollout, but every month they don't roll it out more is a win
 
if they ever get around to launching sg
 
If they fix the mangling of input, I'd even say I wouldn't mind it existing live
 
the code handling needs a lot of work
 
yup, that's precisely what I'd love to see fixed
they should've gone with MD being the single source of truth from the start
all of this mangling stems from treating both modes as equals
 
3:56 PM
omg
Ryan Donovan on May 22, 2023
Attention—the time and freedom to focus—is your team’s most valuable resource.
do you not use your own platform
 
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Q: We are graduating the updated button styling for vote arrows

Bella_BlueAbout a year ago, the Product team, focused on improving the general experience, conducted an experiment to update the styling of the voting arrows on Stack Overflow in order to improve accessibility and meet Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) compliance. We shared positive results from ...

 
o_O
@KevinB well, I'd much rather have Ryan's musings than all the marketing BS that's mostly put there
 
@AnnouncementsonMSE Teamify the main sites?
 
@KevinB Just a case of good 'ol hypocrisy
Their practice isn't remotely the best practice, but they still talk about the best practice, and will never, ever implement anything
 
> We shared positive results from the experiment: a net 28% increase in overall votes.
Why would changing the icons cause more voting, other than simply it being different and thus drawing a temporary increase in engagement?
 
4:04 PM
> Last month (Apr 2023), we saw 175k users who voted 870k times. Of those users, only 8% (14k users) had undone their votes.
 
@AnnouncementsonMSE so... with all the things that got axed lately this change... is still happening?
that's an odd choice
 
Is this really caused by trying to see the vote breakdown? Not something else like, I changed my mind and undid the vote?
 
or it was edited, or oops i was trying to scroll, or i lost my keys
 
> we have plans to roll out more ideas that we have to iterate on voting and it’s part of the user story of this site to increase engagement
I am very, very, very worried about this
 
what i think is happening is search traffic is plummeting
and they want to increase traffic from non-search sources
give users more of a reason to just start here
(or gather more value out of each user that does get here)
 
4:12 PM
well, that's not a bad thing, I suppose. Just hope they'll not, as usual, miss the forest for the trees.
 
> A 27.8 percent lift in voting engagement among users should translate into better questions and answers getting surfaced, especially over a longer period of time.
 
@AnnouncementsonMSE Just add some blinking and animated arrows that point to the voting buttons, with extra glitter on the voting buttons, and a speech bubble floating over them, saying: «click here to vote!», and a full balloon effect over the page when you click them.
 
assuming, of course, the upvotes are on good posts and the downvotes aren't
 
4:35 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine Would you want to extend your comment archive bot to MSE as well?
 
Not sure if the quota allows for it
Actually, it should be fine
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine :)
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship like this? :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Not enough. Add glitter. Need a proper speech bubble. More arrows. More colours. Make sure stuff bumps up, down, right and left. Have some rotating stuff. Scaling animations.
 
@AnnouncementsonMSE I was going to joke that the experiment ran a year ago but...it did. Well, June last year is when the announcement is from which is 11 months ago. Close enough.
@KevinB I'm pretty sure each UI update shows that the answer is "no".
 
4:46 PM
they do use teams
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship now I understand SE - you can satisfy those users! xD Heh, I might actually make it do all that
 
nah, just make the click area of the upvote button cover the entire page until you click it
 
However, I experienced severe pain just by making it blink and of red color
 
800% increase in engagement
 
the increase in engagement was OVER 9000!!!!
> I'm working on a userscript to reverse the upcoming vote button changes.
well, that was fast
 
4:51 PM
@Andreasdetestscensorship i'm referring to these articles: stackoverflow.com/…
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine After you have a nice GIF, present it to SE as a feature request for low-reputation users. :)
@KevinB Oh, ah. But that's not either. I don't read them. :P
 
I've made a TODO list already:
1. Stop the war
2. Apply for a frontend position at SE
3. Implement the change
 
I believe you can do it.
Especially number 1.
 
as long as 1 happens before 2 stops existing
 
Maybe that was you doing some mischief in Belgorod today.
 
4:55 PM
sorry, forgot an item :)
1. Stop the war
2. Apply for a frontend position at SE
3. Implement the change
4. Restart the war
 
did you miss the joke about instructions for making updates? :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine ah, it's refreshing to see that reference every now and then
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Likely.
 
5:22 PM
> [ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project boson: Could not resolve dependencies for project org.sobotics:boson:jar:0.0.3: Could not find artifact io.swagger:swagger-java-client:jar:1.0.0 in central (repo.maven.apache.org/maven2) -> [Help 1]
I remember why I had a plan to replace this piece of shit
Lol
brilliant
The SOBotics outage comes full circle
I can't compile boson because higgs is down
In other words...
@Andreasdetestscensorship No
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Well, see, Zoe’s using Java. Sending lots of love!
 
I didn't write boson
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine D:>
@ZoestandswithUkraine Tomorrow, then. :)
 
So I have to look into it myself. Sadness prevails.
 
unless you can somehow generate swagger-java-client using the JSON file hosted by Higgs - that's currently down and can't be reached - it'll require writing a new (presumably lighter) version in a different language
The C++ libraries are up and should make it possible to set up in a couple hundred lines at most, but I just can't be arsed
 
I am the swag.
 
And I really should get back to exam prep
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Ehm, C++ for this purpose? Hello, right tool for the job? Java and Python sound reasonable.
 
5:31 PM
@Andreasdetestscensorship it is the right tool for the job
There's several reasons, but critically, it's fast, which matters because I run and compile it on my potato RPi 3B+
 
But that's also if I have to implement it. If I don't have to, I don't really care, as long as it's runnable
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Worth looking into archiving that file offsite, so you can generate a client off the copy. I mean, doesn't help now but might be useful in the future. Bonus, you can build offline, in that case.
 
@VLAZ Not trivially at least
To compile it, I just copy-pasta the commands from the SOBotics team
 
I mean, no. But doable. We have a similar problem at work. Well, actually two that overlap in this case. One is building off a hosted file, so a build might fail if the machine hosting the descriptor file is down. Which it often is, if nobody used it recently. That's for SOAP but basically the same problem, as the WSDL is the descriptor for the local client.
 
5:42 PM
Doable, sure, but that would require me to both care, and believe it's worth it compared to just making a light-weight alternative that doesn't need swagger
 
Also, we have an external service we consume via Swagger-generated client. The external provider gives us a YAML file with the API description and we have an offline tool to generate client from it. Like, it's not great, not gonna lie, but gets the job done.
 
Also, there's the very real chance Higgs won't come back
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Honestly, probably doesn't. It's just Java, so you need classes. If you just use any sensible REST client, you should be able to call any endpoint you want.
The Swagger generated clients do exactly that. But give you a class with proper signatures.
 
Actually, light-weight in this context just means not using higgs
I don't have a higgs key anyway
 
There appears to be a bug in my screen.
Sorry, if it sounds random but it's true.
 
5:45 PM
The entire reason I estimate a couple hundred lines at most is, in part, by not connecting to higgs
Which is fine anyway, seeing as it's dead (and the not having a key bit)
 
There is this speck of black moving on my screen. But it's not on top, I can't just wipe it off. It's under the transparent surface of the screen.
It's very distracting...
 
Bug. In the screen.
I was going to take a screenshot until I realised how useless it would be.
I could use my phone but I'll not.
@ZoestandswithUkraine Anyway - why is it using Higgs anyway? Also, related question, what exactly is Higgs doing? I know it's some sort of service for other things. I've never actually looked into what it does.
 
It's bot status and instance monitoring IIRC
 
AFAIK, Boson monitors a feed and posts in chat. I had a look at the code once (not in depth) and that seemed to be a lot of it. Like, it was configurable for what to monitor. Is that coming from Higgs?
 
5:51 PM
As for why, /shrug
/shrug
 
Shrug if you want to buy me ice cream.
 
Ask Bhargav, I have no answers to the whys or whats
I assume Higgs was mainly implemented back when the idea was to scale up further
But the unfortunate reality is that everything has been scaled down instead
Most of the infrastructure is poorly maintained
Higgs hasn't received a security update in like 3 years
 
OK, I checked Higgs. It's a data consolidation service for providing a dashboard/UI that bots report to. I don't think it's necessary for a Boson replacement to use this. Does Boson even need it? Like, does it have a dashboard? I only check on its chatroom.
 
Randomly reminds me I need to deauthorise Higgs, because I'm paranoid
 
5:58 PM
there was a much worse video I found once, I think the ants covered a whole half of an LG TV screen
it was while some footballer celebrity was talking in front of it or something
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine And rodgort
 
So, I don't really think the Higgs link is needed. I think you're right that it can be re-implemented without much hassle. Probably the most important thing to re-implement would be to obey the speed rate limits. Not sure if/what packages are out there that handle the SO API interactions for whatever language you'd choose.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine by the way, did they ever answer you back? just curious since I recall you mentioned contacting them in another room
 
@NordineLotfi Context?
 
So much for exam prep
 
6:00 PM
@VLAZ Boson doesn't need it, it is indeed not necessary for a replacement to use it. I have no clue what it was used for (again, I don't have an API key, and I didn't check back when Boson was hosted by someone with an API key)
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine hum, I can't find it anymore but off the top of my head, you mentioned contacting them for one of the bot they made (was it Boson or Higgs?)
 
Higgs isn't a bot, so must've been boson. I haven't contacted Bhargav recently though
 
got you
 
I did ask about it to take over hosting, but that was ages ago at this point
@KevinB Multitasking
 
@NordineLotfi Mine's much smaller. Also, not as fast. But yeah, same under the glass. It's weird, since it never happened at home until now. At a previous job we had problem with bugs into screens often. We were near a lot of nature, so lots of bugs. Some of them were also not in our code (badum-tss).
 
6:04 PM
I see hmm. I don't think it ever happened to me but even if it did, I just wonder how they can even get in something as closed off as a screen? and under the glass of the screen?
I don't get it, is it through a port or something? or is it when it was being assembled and they were dormant until they awoke?
so many questions
 
Unless it's built to be waterproof, an ant is small enough to squeeze through all the inevitable openings
 
I could always do some science and leave a smartphone in an ant nest and see if they somehow get in there
 
@NordineLotfi It's very small. It's that black speck next to "so many questions"
And bugs are attracted to light. There is more light at the corners. Incidentally, where they can get into. Because it's where the backlights are.
 
wow, yeah it is small
@VLAZ make sense yeah
 
if an ant can get in there, so can water
 
6:15 PM
I just find it weird it never happened to me given the ants being a common occurence around here
 
Might have also been smaller when it got in. Like, larvae/egg.
 
> I would argue that either downvoting should only count as 1/5 of a vote, or that we should better restrict downvoting to content experts.
No single bad take ever comes alone.
 
@NordineLotfi Never happened to me, either. Only at that one job but even there monitors closer to the doors were most affected. Being in the dark cave, away from light like a troglodyte further inside the building means you were mostly immune.
 
downvotes already only count for 1/5 a vote, in terms of rep penalty
 
@Enet4 Yeah, I read that. And, like. I sort of get it. But also not really. The reasoning that experts downvote more sounds OK. Which does also come with the unsaid "but people who don't understand upvote more"
 
6:18 PM
@VLAZ Looks like a dead pixel.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship Until it starts moving.
 
do you think "experts" generally downvote more than they upvote, as a group?
 
@VLAZ Free graphics.
 
when a pixel start to move, you drop everything to get a magnifier
 
@KevinB Good question. Not sure. I feel like it's true. Obviously not all. We do have the evidence of high rep (and competent) users with very low amount of downvotes. But not sure I can really back the data that experts, as a group, cast more downvotes.
 
6:22 PM
I know an user who mostly ask question on a specific tag where they even got it as gold. Most of the question are actually either vague or basic enough you could find the answer on existing post or docs (surprisingly). They might be in the minority since not everyone with a gold badge would do that (probably) but that goes to show badges aren't a good indicator of contents expertise
 
well, what badges do show is that user, at some point in time, had an interest in posting a lot of answers to questions
 
pretty much
 
users who routinely answer questions, are users who are routinely get enjoyment out of helping others and are likely to also get similar good vibes by upvoting posts they're able to answer
I'd expect it to be pretty well known that a well received question is likely to have an even more well received answer
casting that upvote helps toward that end
 
@NordineLotfi Sadly, not uncommon. You can see people with five or six digit rep who don't seem to be able to code themselves out of a wet paper bag.
 
Yep :/ also what you just said reminded me of this: accu.org/journals/overload/21/118/buontempo_1825
 
6:32 PM
I really like genetic algorithms. Sadly, I've not really used them for anything serious.
 
yeah, I think the interest these days is more in NN
 
At uni, there was this one assignment to solve the travelling salesman problem using GAs. Obviously wouldn't be generically optimal, it was geared to just practice GAs.
that was fun.
 
6:46 PM
@KevinB yup, can confirm. It's actually a bit easier than that: if I decide to answer, I already know the question is good enough for an upvote from me.
 
I've recently started answering questions I don't really think are good but also not off-topic. Like, a question where the answer is simply a "No".
 
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@KevinB it was nuked right when I was posting it, sorry
I'll start posting screenshots in a couple of weeks as it seems that my latest 2 semi-rants are, unfortunately, going to push me over 10K on MSE soon
 
TIL you can use TS in a stack snippet if you use Babel. meta.stackoverflow.com/a/424798
Not sure if actually does type checking. But it accepts the annotations.
Doesn't seem to be doing any type checking.
 
7:01 PM
also doesn't work in the new editor
 
@VLAZ well, yes, since Babel supports TS transpilation - doesn't support actual type checking IIRC
heh, haven't used Babel in years
 
I mean, I didn't know the Babel setup that the snippets used had that transformer.
TBH, the whole "babel" option in the snippets is pretty much a mystery to me. I don't really know what it transforms and how. I only know that occasionally somebody ticks it and then the snippet they have doesn't behave as you expect.
 
7:16 PM
@VLAZ sorry, that wasn't a link for you but others just in case :) Pretty sure you know how to configure it. I know that snippets had the ability to use TS through Babel, but never actually used it like that. The Playground is so good it doesn't matter (obviously, I've never just provided a link to the playground).
@VLAZ IIRC, it uses babel-standalone integration package with the default config (given that the generated script tag doesn't override any attributes)
ok, which seems to be:
presets: "react", "env"; plugins: "transform-class-properties", "transform-object-rest-spread", "transform-flow-strip-types"
 
8:15 PM
@VLAZ I only have 1.6k reputation, therefore, I’m a terrible programmer, and don’t know anything about it.
 
clearly that shows you are terrible at programming... people to think you are more qualified than you are.
 
I should’ve taken psychology courses instead. :(
 
@VLAZ this is one of the few situations in which it is acceptable to use a photograph to show someone a bug on your screen.
 
how do you take a picture of your camera device
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship Duh, obviously. Don't you know - rep is the only indicator you need for somebody's skills. That's why allegedly many companies use it as hiring criteria. According to comments that reply to calling it "imaginary unicorn points".
More seriously, there isn't a great way to determine who is an "expert" or not. Rep could help but again, there are enough high rep users that are an example that rep isn't a good criteria for that.
 
8:26 PM
expert simply isn't a meaningful term to base any of this off of
you could, for example, get data from active answerers, aka people who have posted more than 1 answer in the past 3 months
or active curator, anyone who's performed a moderation action in the past 3 months
each could be further filtered by achieved badges or rep
 
It’s not just the answers that count. Curation requires a certain level of knowledge too.
mhm, once again, I need to complete reading before writing. Dumb me. Very dumb me.
 
@VLAZ I could be slightly less annoyed by the rep system if we had it split between answers and questions.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Not sure if that's a good idea. Some questions take skills to write, and clearly show knowledge and skill on the part of the asker.
And many questions are in fact better than many answers.
 
8:41 PM
i mean
i'd argue, if you are asking the question and not answering, there's some amount of lack in skills apparent
 
8:54 PM
sometimes people ask because they're unsure or they're curious if there a better, updated solution
I know I did before at least
I even do jedi mind trick and ask things in such a way that it isn't even my actual problem, just to frame it so it will be more well received compared to if I used my problem in context, verbatim
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship and that skill would be measured separately from the skills required to answer. But in any case, as you probably know, I believe rep should be abolished in its entirety.
 
i think it should remain, but it should be made entirely useless
 
at which point - why have it? :)
 
to motivate fools into participating and getting hooked
 
Why have the stats for the review queues?
why have reddit karma?
 
8:57 PM
@KevinB well... if that's the goal, sure
 
reddit karma is more useless and biased than rep on SO/SE to me
 
@RyanM same reason - to me they are all utterly useless and harmful
 
As much as I hate the reputation system, I do also like my imaginary internet points. :)
 
oh, I don't deny the psychological effect :)
 
But seriously, stop hiding curation and moderation tools behind reputation. It makes no sense. It was a good idea when the platform was created, but it no longer is. We now have the knowledge, people and ability to make something better.
 
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