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3:34 AM
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Q: Why was my question downvoted (user didn't comment)?

Blue RobinMy question: Is there a way to get all the messages in a channel? Someone downvoted it, and I recently got question banned. I want to ask better questions. The user who downvoted didn't comment on why they downvoted. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

 
3:45 AM
@NickstandswithUkraine It's missing the handle. But, the thumb is the spout, the index finger is the rod that sticks up on the lid, and the button is actually a halo indicating an RF signal.
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I can't close things as duplicates of the Help Center, so like the MSE suggestions, that helps not at all.
 
4:01 AM
@CodyGray where did I say I was trying to help as opposed to lamenting the fact that no one reads the HC? :)
 
@NickstandswithUkraine Do the swans in the Thames have teapots?
I don't think the water in the Thames is fit for making tea...
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I assume everyone is trying to be helpful!
 
@CodyGray wait, since then have you put on the rose glasses??
 
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Q: Should people who downvote have to send a comment?

Blue RobinThis is different from (Why isn't it required to provide comments/feedback for downvotes, and why are proposals suggesting this so negatively received?), because I want to create a discussion. On the other side, it could be too tedious to add a comment for every downvote, making fewer people down...

 
@NewPosts Welp that went about as well as could be expected
 
4:18 AM
all things considered, @HenryEcker, it went easier than usual, so a bit unexpected :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine You know I've always been an optimist.
@NewPosts Weird, they changed their avatar.
"This proposal is different...because I want to create a discussion". What?
That's what the last eight hundred have been.
 
@CodyGray if you can still say that after serving as a mod here, that's impressive
@CodyGray don't you see that it has an id of 418671? It is different! /s
 
4:40 AM
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Q: Should stack overflow send an email when you start going on the question ban path?

Blue Robin(I am aware that it does give a notice, but I didn't get one for some reason before getting close to a question ban) I recently got question banned (without knowing it even existed). Wouldn't it be good to get an email before knowing? I didn't even get any warnings before getting question banned....

 
4:57 AM
@NewPosts Ugh. I checked, and there's no indication that they've ever been shown a quality warning...
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I am optimist who is perpetually disappointed.
 
@CodyGray I wonder how often it happens. It seems possible to ask a question and not be at the threshold to be shown the warning. Then afterwards events push the user into the ban territory directly. E.g., they get enough downvotes and/or delete questions to get there.
 
> You may be among the unwarned few. Perhaps a moderator can see the triggers and the system actions taken and shed a bit of light. It's a bit late for most of the North American mods at this hour .... but there's one right now!\ –user4581301
Heh. Late, you say?
 
@CodyGray doesn't a disappointed optimist become a pessimist?
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Not an optimistic one.
He keeps expecting not to be disappointed the next time. And keeps being disappointed.
 
5:14 AM
interesting, so you are a pessimist in denial?
 
Isn't that what all optimists are?
 
5:28 AM
I suppose so, to a degree
FFS!
^ I can't even comment
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Interesting. I just posted a rant about the same thing (but a different user) last night in the mod room:
ZOMG screenshot from the private mod chat room!!!1one
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Would you really be surprised if that actually worked, running the command on the server side?
 
@CodyGray tsk-tsk, and no anonymization! :)
 
The comments were posted in public view on the main site; I see no need to anonymize that.
 
@CodyGray great minds bump think alike
 
5:44 AM
I always think of Kreayshawn.
 
@CodyGray did you really think I considered "ZOMG screenshot from the private mod chat room!!!1one" to be a message indicating panic? :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Ah, I see the problem. I forgot to include ":mildpanic:" in my message.
 
@CodyGray I... don't want to find out
@CodyGray oh, so that's what they were doing!
 
Yup. They're rockin up in the club, with a bunch of bad bitches. At least, that's what I always assume.
 
5:55 AM
Don't you want someone who can dance?
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I tried "bump" without the exclamation mark and I got less results than expected. It was 437. It's still a lot but I thought I'd find a thousand. Mods have been cleaning up, I guess.
 
looks like ya'll going to bump into a bunch of flags shortly
@CodyGray lol
 
Flag count is under 1k, so I guess that's reasonable
 
@CodyGray juuuust a minute
> bumppppppppppppppppppppppppp my pixels
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine If you make me hold this beer, I'm going to drink it. :-)
 
6:06 AM
@CodyGray expecting to - merry bumping xmas!
> bump bumpity bump
> bumpity bump? This is driving me bats :/
> bump bumpb umpbmpubmpu
> bump bump bump bump my friends
^ don't bump your friends, please
> bump of sweet justice
> bump bump mcbumb face
@vlaz Look at my post. — NodeStu Oct 1, 2016 at 13:01
aaaand done, 99 red baloons flags
 
6:27 AM
Welp. Just accidentally pressed the "i" key while having focus on my browser tab. There goes any chance that I'll ever read any of my pending inbox notifications.
 
my condolences
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Let me right on that...
@CodyGray I so wish there was a way to not mark all your notifications as read. I've accidentally opened the notifications bar and then had to leave the tab open and go through them.
 
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Q: I created this code to calculate the Geometrical Mean of the values the user inputed. When the user preses enter after entering values, it doenst work

IsmailHere is my code, I am using Eclipse IDE as I am required per my course requirements. package assignment3; import java.util.Scanner; import java.util.ArrayList; import java.lang.Math; public class Task_1 { public static void main(String[] args) { Scanner scan = new Scanner(System.in); ArrayList nu...

 
I'm aware that's not exactly a problem you have but still would like not having to do that myself.
 
@VLAZ Yup. But not when there are (were?) >550 of them.
 
6:34 AM
Hmm, maybe I should fork the Lost Souls script.
 
Is that the one by Jesus?
 
@CodyGray Glorfindel, so it's the closest we have, right?
 
Hmm.
 
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Q: 'Saviour' of Lost Souls

Glorfindel 'Saviour' of Lost Souls Meta sites, but especially Meta Stack Exchange, see a lot of 'lost souls', users who have no idea that they're on Meta (e.g. because of a suboptimal email or a Stack Overflow question ban) and post a question which might or might not be on-topic on another Stack Exchan...

 
Oh, ugh. That's the one that leaves that stupid comment? Ugh.
 
6:36 AM
It just allows a one-click VTC + downvote + leave a comment.
I'd also like to follow a post I've voted to close with it, so I can then cast a del-vote
Also, I'd like to have the comment thing configurable
 
As in, I don't want to post comments by default.
 
That's what my script does, except it doesn't bother with the stupid comment.
 
Same.
 
And, naturally, it doesn't bother with following or any of that nonsense. It just downvotes, closes, and deletes, with one click.
 
6:38 AM
I don't want the stupid comment. Never really found it too useful.
 
Of course, YMMV if you do not have mod privileges. :-)
 
Let me check... Nope, no mod privileges yet.
Maybe related, but is there a userscript that simplifies casting NLN flags? Maybe at least add a button that does it automatically. Might be great if it also respected the rate limit silently, so if I click the NLN button on a couple of comments, it'd queue the flags.
 
@CodyGray the inbox notification rework script is still in the backlog, sorry
 
Well, I have one that changes the behavior of the "Delete" link from only appearing on hover and appearing in an unpredictable location based on the length of the comment to displaying a permanent "close" button in a predictable location at the right of every comment.
But, again, unless you're a mod who can instantly click to delete comments, probably not useful.
 
The delete link is really fun on mobile, since there's no hover. You get rather good at guessing where it appears so that you can hit it with a single tap.
 
6:43 AM
@VLAZ already in the backlog too
 
@RyanM Responsive design! Except the responses are a mystery depending on where you click.
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Did you notice that the mod inbox dropdown got a lot larger, @RyanM?
 
whoa, no, I hadn't. but it did.
that's actually good.
 
Weirdly, not on Meta.
 
BTW, the "show on hover" thing doesn't work very well in many situations on desktop. I wrote a userstyle that removed this functionality from last modification date in our wiki. For some stupid reason, you can only see that information if you hover on it. But YOU NEVER EVEN KNOW WHERE IT IS if you've never seen it.
 
6:46 AM
Though uh, that seems to be an effect of a userscript
since it's back to its normal tiny self with them disabled
 
Personal Mod Message History
 
7:08 AM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine FYI, I checked StackApps and I didn't see anything about that. The closest thing (well, basically the only for flagging comments) is Bulk flag comments which is for more massive flagging than what I usually do.
I might flag 2-3 comments in succession and it's just slightly annoying that there is no quick button for that. No keyboard shorcuts, either. And then there is the 3 second timeout on the flag window and the 5 second timeout on flagging comments, as well.
 
@VLAZ imagine how annoying it was to flag 99 of them...
 
Related, I was thinking of some sort of UI to mass-flag comments. But not from just one post. Maybe all the comments from a query like the "bump" one are loaded (with context?), you can tick whichever you want and then it goes and bulk flags all of them.
 
@VLAZ yeah, it's been on my mind to do something similar but with a storage-based solution + throttle
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Yeah, just them to a list and then there is an ongoing loop that flags, waits, flags, waits, etc. When you run out of flags it probably just waits until the next day.
But that's becoming a bit weird for a userscript. Hence why I think a separate application might be needed.
 
pfff
cross-tab locks :)
 
7:16 AM
Yes, I get it can be done. But my problem is that I still have to switch through tabs flagging a comment or two. Instead of having one list to go through which should be faster, I think.
 
that can be a feature, yeah - searching comments by text, then presenting the UI
 
Also, for possible over-engineering purposes: create one separate application that accepts a list of flags to flag in bulk. It can run and exposes an API where you feed it comments. It then adds them to storage and processes them when flags/timeout/whatever is available. Different UIs can be used to feed it comments to flag in that case.
 
7:29 AM
@CodyGray it's missing the handle? Then it's not a teapot!
 
Assume it's a shiboridashi
 
But they don't have gooseneck spouts
They just have lips
 
OK. Assume it used to have a spout, but someone dropped it off the counter and broke the spout off.
That's a thing with coffee mugs.
 
> Am I missing something? Any help would be greatly appreciated and also, thanks in advance! đŸ˜„
 
7:35 AM
@CodyGray Speaking from experience, eh?
 
Yeah. Teachers used to put them on the marker holder for their dry-erase boards, and then they would always get knocked off from there. It reliably broke off the handle of a ceramic mug.
 
We didn't really have many dry erase boards, it was a combination of overhead projectors and chalkboards. And you wouldn't want your mug under a chalkboard
 
You wouldn't want it under a dry-erase board, either. Not if it was full.
Dry-erase markers and boards can drop pieces of stuff, too...
 
They can indeed, especially if the eraser is well used
 
Erasing with your hand leaves stuff on your hand
Which then... crumbles off
 
7:40 AM
There's a simple solution for that
 
Wash your hands?
Oh, lick it off!
 
Use your sleeves :p
 
Use a high pressure washer
 
Ah. This is Texas. You might not have sleeves.
 
In Texas, I'd expect everybody to have those wide-brimmed cowboy hats. Just use that to erase stuff.
 
7:45 AM
Your expectation would be wrong.
 
@CodyGray In that case, don't you just use guns? /s
 
Don't ruin my imagination with your facts.
 
Maintenance gets mad when you use guns to erase the dry-erase boards.
 
I thought you lot had boards especially designed for gun clearing
 
I still would've expected sleeves
 
7:49 AM
@ZoestandswithUkraine Now I imagine something like a carnival shooting range. Where you hit a thing and just flips the board. Presumably there is somebody behind wiping it for the next shot. With a sleeve, apparently.
 
Fabric around a gun holster?
The gun is the sleeve :gigabrain:
 
Also, the occasional gunshot might wake up sleeping students.
 
I thought they used warning shots for that
I mean, can you really call someone an American student if they haven't been shot at least once while sleeping in a lecture?
 
Can confirm - I've never been shot at a lecture and am not an American student.
 
7:52 AM
@ZoestandswithUkraine yes, they don't call them lectures until you get older :p
 
Non-students don't have lectures
pupils have lessons, students have lectures :p
 
You missed the joke
 
@NickstandswithUkraine shoot!
 
But hey, they're american, they're gonna get shot eventually anyway
 
7:54 AM
@NickstandswithUkraine So... not sleeveless, but short-sleeved is common.
@ZoestandswithUkraine "The gun is the sleeve"... I don't get this.
@VLAZ Useful!
 
@CodyGray Machine gun arm
 
@CodyGray but how do you protect yourself from that evil sun
 
or something, idk, I don't american
 
@NickstandswithUkraine By not going outside.
 
Long sleeve in hot weather doesn't "protect" as much as "cook" you.
 
7:55 AM
scribbles some notes, nodding agreefully
 
Oh come on - I know the UK has summer. Last year it was on a Tuesday, right?
(Obligatory joke out of the way)
 
Wait, what?
 
Nonono, England has summer
 
@NickstandswithUkraine you lot get an entire day of summer?
We just get an hour!
 
Well, you're chilling (for real) with Santa.
 
7:57 AM
We just get an extended spring
 
@NickstandswithUkraine Ireland? Scotland?
 
We don't really have spring this far north. It's winter, then it's warm for a few days, the snow disappears, and it's suddenly summer
 
Scotland
Poor Wales, always getting forgotten
 
Oh, yeah. Then I think you need some clarification: "the sun" is like a giant light bulb. But it's in the sky. Believe it or not, there is more sky behind the clouds.
 
7:59 AM
@NickstandswithUkraine No, it's spelled whales
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Ah yes, the one and only bagpipes song
 
@NickstandswithUkraine No, I didn't forget it. I just have been there, so I know what it's like.
 
Also don't let the Northern Irish hear you calling them Irish
 
Wales has a summer. And last year it was on a Tuesday.
(ho-ho)
 
@VLAZ merry christmas
 
8:03 AM
Don't you know anything, it's 3 hos for Christmas
 
But yeah, I lived in Wales for 5 years. Hard to forget it exists. The "extended spring" is pretty true for the rest of England and Wales. There is probably a week or two where it reaches 30-ish degrees C which is pretty hot for the region. Most of the other time, there is not really that warm (20-ish C is more normal at summer).
And from what I know, up north it's more or less the same but there is less hot days.
 
Yep
10-ish C is normal, 20-ish are the hot days
It's 14C today
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine "Summer"... Do you mean spring?
@VLAZ If you're actually going to be working outside, long sleeves are highly recommended. They keep you from getting burned. People who work outside all day doing manual labor do, somewhat counterintuitively, wear long-sleeves, even here, where it's >= 37 deg C.
But if you're only going to be outside for short bursts, like walking from place to place or whatever, then short sleeves make way more sense.
 
I've have had to endure hot weather and work outside. I'm saying that long sleeves still are uncomfortable.
But less so than a sunburn.
I'd definitely prefer not going outside at all in the heat, if I can help it.
 
Exactly
Like if you're going to put on a roof on a house, long sleeves in the summer are miserably hot, but really your best option anyway.
 
8:18 AM
Even when it's "hot" outside we don't tend to need to worry about sun, instead going outside you're more at risk of getting blinded by the diffuse light from the clouds as if it were snowy outside every day
A standard day
 
@CodyGray Nope, spring doesn't exist
 
8:34 AM
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@NickstandswithUkraine This is your teeny-tiny new backyard? :-)
 
Yep :p
Got some greenery out the front too
 
Well, I like that. That's cute.
But you are like inches away from the street?
 
Europe isn't car-centric though
There's still cars, obviously, but not constant 10 lane roads in the middle of a residential area
 
@CodyGray I'm like 8ft from the street
That white line half way up the bushes is the kerb, and that drops into a parking space, not even the actively used part of the street
so really I'm like 16+ft from the street
 
8:48 AM
@ZoestandswithUkraine Don't see what that has to do with anything
 
Oh, dedicated street parking areas?
 
Interesting
 
@CodyGray It's more of a "doesn't matter as much" because of less traffic. Also, insulation :p
 
8:49 AM
Photo is old cause it's a new build
road is cleaner and has road markings and such on it now
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Hmm. I'm not sure I can agree with this logic.
 
#include <bits/stdc++.h> đŸ¤®
 
 
2 hours later…
10:29 AM
> (This question may seem off-topic but its related to my project,so please don't downvote)
 
11:15 AM
@VLAZ rgngngngnrgnn
 
12:12 PM
> I found one which works for me on all devices. I'm not a security specialist, therefore please don't downvote my answer if the technique isn't as secure as it could be. I'm only posting the code for people who have run in the same problem that I had face before.
@E_net4-MrDownvoter Any better?
Ugh, this one is just awful, though. I promise I stop with the downvote discussions afterwards:
> PS: Please don't downvote or flag it, if u think this question is not likeable for some reasons. U can delete it after being answered.
That one also had "Thanks in anticipation"
 
 
1 hour later…
1:26 PM
OK, I wonder if we should tread lightly on this.
 
Not sure if that crosses an escalation line, but imma do that for good measure. I'll monitor it for further escalation in either case
 
Thanks. It could be serious indeed.
 
If you're not sure if something crosses the escalation line, it crosses the escalation line
 
@E_net4-MrDownvoter oh, well
 
@NickstandswithUkraine That's my policy with anything related to self-harm or harm against others
 
 
1 hour later…
2:47 PM
Whelp, turns out that someone linked the Meta Q with the response to the "tyrannical mods" Youtube video as a comment to the same video, and all that it got was a false accusation and no constructive counterarguing.
And yet Stack Overflow is the cesspool whereas other places are not.
 
@E_net4-MrDownvoter I mean, what else do you expect from YT comments?
 
I expected some humanity reason insight oh uh... :[
 
3:34 PM
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Q: Can we upvote posts if we want the opposite user to go into a chat?

Sambhav KhandelwalCan we upvote posts if we want the opposite user to go into a chat? For example, if the user has 1 rep and wants to go into a chat, can we upvote his posts?

 
@NewPosts didn't the automatic "let's continue this on chat" triggered by the OP give the explicit write permission???
 
3:59 PM
Do meta sites have question bans?
 
Yes, except for MSO.
 
unfortunate
 
@AndrewT. No
Only happens if a mod initiates the move
In fact, ROs cannot give access to users without access to chat
A mod has to do that as well
 
@KevinB Not really. IMO there shouldn't be question bans on any meta sites, at least with the question ban algorithm used on main. Downvotes on meta don't necessarily indicate low-quality, so using that as a metric would be detrimental. Besides, traffic on meta is low enough that if a user is posting lots of low-quality content, it can be flagged for a mod to look into.
 
@cigien You do realize that our only option is a suspension, right?
When we take over where a question ban fails (or in the case of MSO, disabled), our only tools are an initial warning, followed by suspensions if it continues
And sure, that does have its uses on main, but we can't just suspend on meta
The lack of a question ban puts us mods in an extremely tricky situation with repeated LQ contributors on meta that contribute at least okay content to main. Suspending them is not a good solution, but it's our only option when we have to take action on LQ content
 
4:10 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine looks like you wanted to say "at least okay content to meta" or vice versa?
 
So yes, the lack of a question ban is actually unfortunate. However, because votes work differently, it would probably need to be a question ban with modifications to make sense; possibly only checking closure and deletion to avoid accidentally suppressing unpopular opinions
@OlegValteriswithUkraine LQ contributors on meta that are good on main, yeah
 
Does action need to be taken for LQ content on meta? Take the recent meta post by Shambhav. It's going to get downvoted a lot, but surely it's a legit question that one can ask on meta? The only time I would censor someone on meta is when their behavior is inappropriate, and a suspension is justified in that case.
 
LQ contributors on main are easier to justify suspensions for when the Q-ban isn't enough
And it does get applied from time to time; but in the time since my election, I haven't seen a single one handed out for LQ posts on meta
 
a purely manual mod Q-ban on meta would be nice - don't think that it should be automated, though, as it would punish unpopular folks with good question quality
 
@cigien It'd just be nice if there was a system to automatically handle people who consistently post dupes
@OlegValteriswithUkraine That's why I made a point on not factoring in downvotes, but only deletion and closure
That means unpopular posts don't cause suspensions, but off-topic ones do count
Strikes a good balance when it's partly a discussion site rather than a proper Q&A
... imo, obviously
 
4:16 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine Wouldn't a mod message work? Something like "You've been posting lots of dupes on meta recently. You really need to research meta more thoroughly. If you post another half-dozen dupes on meta in the next month, you'll be suspended for not posting in good faith.". And then actually suspend the user. (Adjust the exact number of dupes per time unit, as appropriate.) This is obviously not sustainable on main, but on meta there are only a handful of users who would fall in this category.
 
I'm really opposed to the idea of an automated ban on meta sites. On main, getting to post questions is a privilege, no doubt about that, but on meta it's much more a right IMO. If a user messes around enough to lose that right, that's fine, but I'd like a human being to make that call.
 
but as it currently stands, posting to meta is a guarantee
The only way to revoke the right to meta is by revoking the right to main as well
And that is why it's tricky
And that's why we need a Q-ban
 
I wouldn't mind a q-ban if it had to be manually instated.
What Oleg said above.
But I would rather no q-ban than an automated one.
 
To be clear, though, there's a difference between LQ and rude content. Being sufficiently rude does result in consequences on main as well, but that's a whole different category of content
@cigien One nice thing about a fully automatic Q-ban though, is that mods aren't put in a sticky situation
No one can claim the Q-ban is censorship if it's for objectively LQ/dupe content, and the Q-ban is purely based on closed and deleted questions, because no mods can instate it. Moreover, mods can't be bugged to undo the Q-ban, because we literally can't
 
4:28 PM
That's almost exactly why I think it shouldn't be automated, because it removes all accountability from the mod team. If a user's contributions on meta aren't obviously problematic enough for a mod to pull the trigger on a q-ban, then the mod should really ask themself if it's not actually censoring. I do like that mods aren't accountable for q-bans on main, because you'd be swamped with requests, but on meta, surely you'd only have to deal with this a couple of times a month, at most?
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine dunno, I'd prefer the ban to be entirely manual - the workload should be minimal given the traffic, and we do have quite a few unjustified closures (POB comes to mind as most frequently abused). That said, some decent heuristic can be derived from specific close reasons + downvotes + deletion, methinks
 
Also, given that the algorithm for a hypothetical q-ban on meta wouldn't be made public, just the fear of a q-ban alone would be a form of censorship.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine another alternative is to split Meta and main suspensions - will help with rants as a side-effect
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Would likely require too much dev effort for it to happen in our lifetimes
 
4:33 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine isn't pretty much any dev effort too much to happen in our lifetime? :)
 
No, there are some things we can get
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine We'll have to agree to disagree on how serious an issue that is. Meta, at least MSO, already gets a lot of flak for being an echo chamber, and an automated ban would just feed into that. Even the appearance of censorship is something to be avoided as far as possible.
 
I'd assume an automatic meta Q-ban would require similar amount of dev effort as splitting suspensions (unless we just get "we enabled the standard algo for main"), @ZoestandswithUkraine
 
Also, I'm not even convinced there's an actual problem to solve here. MSO gets like 10 questions a day. Surely there are enough active users on MSO to deal with any LQ contributions without requiring any automated tooling?
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine from what I hear, it's just a switch
If SE has even vaguely designed it in a sensible way, you can both activate and tweak with minimal dev effort. The hardest part is grabbing data
 
4:41 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine imagine the engineering effort required for flipping it automatically! :)
@ZoestandswithUkraine I think a correction is in order: "the hardest part is SE designing in an even vaguely sensible way". Which is one of the reasons I am very weary of an auto Q-ban on metas
 
Now, sure
But if it's an old system, it might stem from the days of slightly good dev
 
well, a hammer is an old tool, but it is easy to nail one's fingers if one does not have the skill to wield it...
Anyways, my problems with auto Q-bans on meta are: (a) it is unlikely that SE will put a lot of effort into it [which means simple and imprecise heuristics]; (b) in case of meta, it is unlikely that a post can be salvaged by editing, thus very hard to get out of it (see (a) for why it worries me); (c) seems overkill for such a low traffic how many Q-bans to expect per month were it a feature?
 
Perhaps some of you have known about this, but MSE has auto Q-bans, although the threshold is set very high to hit (I only know 1 legit user got this). But MSE is a weird site.
 
@AndrewT. yea, it's well-known, but that's because it's not a meta site in the first place
 
4:58 PM
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Q: Not enough attention to answers on question

Archit GargiThis question includes more than 1 problem. So my first problem is, many times I have seen that people (including me) put enormous effort in answering some questions but the question author just ignores it, I don’t know why. Maybe they think that since their work is done they don’t need to thank ...

 
@NewPosts of, FFS! Again with that acceptance BS
 
5:14 PM
 
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Q: What am I supposed to do on my question ban?

Archit GargiI have posted a question a few weeks ago related to this and I followed the advice on that question. I tried my best to improve my existing questions but maybe I didn’t do enough or people don’t care about those anymore. Pls help me what can I do on my question ban. Help me improve them even more...

 
@NewPosts Go for a hike? Play a new video game?
 
5:38 PM
i'd be for a manual one, specifically for users who's contributions are routinely poorly researched over many posts with no signs of improvement. but, given how inactive meta sites are, such posts are often the only source of entertainment
 
@E_net4-MrDownvoter Or an old video game. Which I found out is what I've been doing. There was a poll something like "How old is the last game you played" with something like 6 possible answers of different time periods. I picked the last one of the available options which was "over a year". The game was from 2020.
 
i'm playing an overhaul of a much older game
do i count the age of the game the overhaul is a mod of, or the base game
 
Release date, I suppose. Although, I doubt it matters much for the poll.
 
11 years
 
Heck, I played a 2020 game (Control) and before that a 2021 game (Deathloop). But overall, I very rarely play something super recent anyway. Played some Dishonored before that and before that still Might and Magic 7 (1999) and MDK2 (same year?)
Also booted up Path of Exile for, like, half an hour at one point.
 
5:46 PM
i was playing vault hunters (minecraft) for a month or two, now i'm playing through Enderal (skyrim), and as soon as i finish that (or sooner) i'll be jumping back into satisfactory to check out update 6
 
I've still not played Enderal. It's on my list of things to check out.
How long is it? Or is it totally up to you, same as Skyrim?
 
well
i haven't finished it, so no idea how far i really am into the story
but... even if i'm close to the end, it's pretty big, comparable to skyrim if you combined all of it's stories
it's replayability though is bigger
there are many different story outcomes
the build variety is huge
and it has it's own modding community
lol
i'm using a combat overhaul for it that makes the combat a lot more engaging, even though the base enderal is already more engaging than skyrim on that front
also gets rid of a lot of the... "cheats"
asin, the enchanting/alchemy dance
it's an entirely different world than skyrim
the combat overhaul makes the different weapon types effective against different types of enemies
axes against light armor, maces against heavy, swords balanced and provide a defensive benefit to melee attacks, silver based weapons and spells (or a potion) are required to effectively combat ghosts,
stagger plays a bigger role, as does block to prevent stagger
leveling is entirely based on killing things and completing quests, no more outleveling content by just sitting in town
 
@KevinB Pfft, what's the length of the main quests (+guilds) in Skyrim? Like 4-5 hours? Or maybe 7-8-ish if you take your time and trek around? It's tiny. I remember first time I played Skyrim I stopped in the middle before completing the main quest (imperial side). I came back years later and completed it only to find out that what I had left was just a few "go do a small fetch quest" followed by "attack this outpost" and boom, you take over a town. I was pretty underwhelmed.
 
eh, true
i haven't played bae skyrim in a long time, but i was effectively considering all side quests/dungeons as well
there's enough there for easily a few months of casual play
enderal's main story is a lot more... direct, than skyrim's 4-5 main stories that are relatively short
 
Mages guild in particular I'm pretty sure it's just 5-ish missions (if you don't do any of the "side" ones with the students) and you get named the Archmage.
 
6:02 PM
lets just say it's definitely not a 8 hours and done story
in 8 hours you might be able to finish the first chapter of the story, if you skipped all the side content... but you'd be pretty weak and not equipped well enough to continue it
unelss you were playing on easy, i guess
but max difficulty or riot
 
6:21 PM
it's not like skyrim in that enemies don't scale with your level
they're pre-leveled
 
6:45 PM
I like tat.
In Skyrim the enemies scaled a bit. Well actually I'm not sure how much except it wasn't as bad as Oblivion.
You could totally hose yourself if you pick stuff like Speechcraft and Athletics as class skills. By the time you exit the first city, you might hit level 10 but you wouldn't be getting the x5 mofifiers on stats. Because the levelling system sucked. So, you'd be severely underoptimised and the enemies are levelled for a higher baseline.
So, Skyrim was better. Also finally overhauled the levelling system to something more coherent. The levelled enemies still are annoying. Like, you have to go all-in on Destruction to keep up with their health or not take Destruction at all. Getting some Destruction ends up with spells that take out less and less of the enemy health as you level up.
Well, with Vanilla, that is. With mods it's a different matter. You could give the spells some actual punch. Rather than random bandits deciding they can take three fieballs in the face now.
 
in skyrim, dungeons scaled based on your level when you entered, then the mobs stayed that level until you cleared it
so you could run around pre-leveling a bunch of dungeons in a legendary playthrough so that they weren't too powerful for you after you level up some crafting to be able to do mediocre damage to begin with
outside areas scaled too, but... that part i'm not sure exactly on the mechanics of
i assume they scaled when you loaded in that cell
similar to dungeons
spell scaling in enderal is just different ranks of spells
ranks 1 through 5, sometimes 6, and there's "mythical" spells
you get the spell books in the wild, or off of relevant vendors if you're high enough skill level in that tree
and leveling skills is entirely through purchasing books off of vendors. but using the book uses up a "learning point", similarly crafting skill books use up a "crafting" point
which you earn 5 and 4 of, respectively per level
so you can just go and level smithing to max at level 10
on my level 50-ish char, i just finished maxxing alchemy and handicrafting (smithing), anything i get next will go into enchanting, or just go unused
i don't really need enchanting
the set items i have are already better than any enchanted gear I could make myself
at best i could improve my rings/amulet
 
7:36 PM
@VLAZ Sounds like a very carpy poll to me.
Last game I played was from 2004, and I don't find this to be very old.
 
nov 2004 was when the oldest most recent game i've played was released
but... probably not going back to wow any time soon
 
But anyway, by "new game" I kinda meant "a game you haven't played before". :)
 
ah
well, that's tough
all the "new" games i want don't exist yet
usually when I want a new game i get it
 
8:14 PM
@E_net4-MrDownvoter 'twas dumb, yeah
 
 
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