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1:50 AM
CSS, scripting in Java with styles! </trollololo>
 
2:24 AM
Are mods cracking down on delete-voting code-only answers in VLQ?
 
 
4 hours later…
Zoe
6:14 AM
@JL2210 Hopefully
 
6:51 AM
@JL2210 I'd hope so, that's one of the most common mistakes reviewers make, see meta.stackoverflow.com/a/262696
 
Course, you're free to downvote, code only answers are usually not so useful compared to others (and downvotes usually incentivize the answerer to fix it or delete it)
 
Zoe
^
 
if it helps, I could modify the ReviewQueueHelper userscript and add a "Code-only" button that downvotes (as we can't DV from LQP the moment) and then selects "Looks OK"
 
7:40 AM
@SamuelLiew a general "downvote this" button would be cool
 
I can enable the voting buttons too.. and even have an option to auto-downvote on question closure (if not negatively scored yet)
 
Good morning.
 
Morning :)
 
8:32 AM
o/
offers @Zoe popcorn before she gets the chance to steal it
 
new CEO at SE has been found apparently
there's a blog about it
 
Yeah, we spoke briefly about it yesterday
 
@M.A.R. Don't joke about that, I still have nightmares about people asking about "Java scripts" and they were actually talking about Java code. Needless to say, those people were never to be heard of again.
 
@Gimby "My java scripts not working: #include <stdio.h> int main(){printf("Hello, World!');return 0;} tanks in advance"
^tagged python and vba-excel
 
foams at the mouth
 
8:47 AM
@NickA you ...
I don't ...
why ...?
 
I know, I should've left out the code formatting
 
Zoe
9:24 AM
@NickA Thanks! ♥️💖💜
 
You're welcome ;p
 
@Magisch Sounds more like 'selected' instead.
The new CEO are expected to seal a few big deals or am I reading too much into ... and between the lines?
 
9:39 AM
I'm not good at reading PR speak so I assume it's just a standard issue "this is the new CEO" type announcement without any specificity
 
Anyone feel like mod flags are getting handled more slowly than normal?
 
Zoe
@NickA they are. We're three mods short
 
My money is on another mod election early next year
 
@Zoe 3 now?!, who was the third
 
and who was second ?
 
9:43 AM
Cody iirc
 
Geeez, they're dropping like flies
 
Zoe
Yep
@NickA in theory anyway
 
10:24 AM
On a totally unrelated issue - team fitting, 100% compatible
 
I'm on holiday in 2 weeks \o/
 
Zoe
10:45 AM
@NickA enjoy ^^ steals Nick's popcorn
 
@Zoe I'll leave it in your trusted hands while I'm away, but I'll want it back when I return :P
 
@Zoe wait, now it's three mods?
oh derp, I need to read more stuff :)
 
Zoe
1 hour ago, by Zoe
@NickA Temporarily, but https://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/111347?m=47381186
@NickA yeah, about that...
 
I shall read it in shame
 
@SamuelLiew That would be great. Thanks!
 
11:19 AM
@Zoe I mean it :P
 
Have fun with your second hand popcorn :(
 
Zoe
@NickA me too c:
 
11:36 AM
@Gimby It's a magic popcorn bag, it's fresh every day, why do you think I have so much of it?
 
Zoe
Ooh, I thought you cooked it yourself
 
Only when I'm bored
 
Zoe
So constantly?
 
>.>
 
Zoe
;)
 
11:59 AM
There are very few people that bore me on SO
 
@JL2210 @Magisch I've put post voting buttons back in the review queues (except suggested edits), let me know if you encounter issues with my userscript github.com/samliew/SO-mod-userscripts/blob/master/…
also if you install SOMU-options, additional 7 options are available in a sidebar
 
@NickA Nothing changes about the second hand nature of the popcorn within that statement!
 
@Gimby Of course it does, it's only the popcorn bag that's second hand, the popcorn is brand new ;p
 
No it is not. You stated that it refreshes daily. So you have it today, gave it to Zoe today and when you get it back today, that's all within the same refresh cycle.
 
Nah, I offered her a handful, not the whole bag ;p
 
12:11 PM
Nu-uh. " I'll leave it in your trusted hands while I'm away, but I'll want it back when I return :P" <-- no you did not.
 
"I'll", that's not happened yet :)
I'm away in 2 weeks, not now
 
Alright alright, you can have the win in this made up story.
 
Quite right :P
 
But I'm watching you.
Always watching. Aaaaaalways...
 
@Gimby I didn't realise this was you
 
12:19 PM
@SamuelLiew Probably none I can use, given I'm not a mod
 
I think you can use all the options, including downvote After (voting to) Close
 
Can you write something to make the H&I queue good?
 
@NickA yeah, in the H&I I've added the close option
 
Well that's not worse :)
 
I occasionally go through the H&I and close questions directly from there, then see who voted for "Requires editing" in triage
 
12:24 PM
@SamuelLiew do you have an engraved review ban hammer too?
 
Zoe
@NickA The H&I queue is so awful, not even Samuel's awesome scripts can fix it.
 
that's why we had this meta post meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/389148/…
 
If only there were individual queue bans... then I could get a permaban from the H&I queue and it wouldn't appear in the list
@SamuelLiew Yeah, upvoted your answer there when I saw the post at the time
 
 
3 hours later…
3:04 PM
o/
 
tips hat
 
@NickA Cody is still a moderator
 
@TylerH I didn't say he wasn't
 
@NickA well, you responded to a 'we're 3 mods short' clarification question
 
@TylerH I did, because he's currently less active than usual, however still a moderator
 
4:04 PM
@Zoe don't make a fuss
Bhargav has taken leaves before
 
? I don't see a fuss, just an answer
 
whoa whoa whoa clam down
 
A fussy answer
Or an answery fuss
 
@KevinB lmao
I still don't see it, just an answer imo
 
Zoe
@M.A.R. So?
 
4:07 PM
Well I mean unless he confirms it it's not related to the current events
 
Zoe
I'm not complaining about that - it's perfectly fine
 
Putting them in the same basket is misleading
I wanna complain about your hyphen
 
We were talking about how many moderators are actively moderating, if he's on leave he's not moderating, we weren't tying them together based on why they're not moderating
 
Alt + 0151. —
 
Zoe
@M.A.R. How else would you phrase three mods currently not doing work for various reasons? One stepped down, one is potentially entirely gone, and one is on a break.
@M.A.R. Nej
 
4:08 PM
One is a kitkat
 
@M.A.R. That's not a hyphen :P
 
Zoe
They haven't all quit - that wasn't the point either.
@NickA Pff, everyone knows the right way to do it is with <hr>
 
:D
 
2 mins ago, by Zoe
I'm not complaining about that - it's perfectly fine
This is a hyphen. Or a dash
Or a pickle.
 
That is, I meant what was your em-dash for
 
4:10 PM
Either way, it's NOT RIGHT.
 
Ohhhh, you're a pedant too :D
 
BBL dinner
 
Awww, that means I can't criticise your use of kitkat instead of Kit Kat :P
 
Zoe
:P
 
Kit—Kat
 
4:15 PM
There's no dash in Kit Kat
 
I'm inherently dashy.
 
rofl
 
283
Q: When should I use an em-dash, an en-dash, and a hyphen?

kiamlalunoI generally know how to use a hyphen, but when should I use an en-dash instead of an em-dash, or when should I use a hyphen instead of an em-dash?

 
Yes, yes we know, but we're programmers, not linguists, we don't care :P
 
@NickA exactly. when people tell me i spell stuff wrong, i just tell them if i cared, i wouldve majored in english
plus, like 95% of the population doesnt even know there is a difference between an en-dash and em-dash and a hyphen
 
4:19 PM
And like that post says, the whole stack exchange network is wrong for using hyphens instead of minus signs
 
I didn't even know there was such a thing as a minus sign!
 
@NickA It's surprising how often the two overlap.
 
Normally I just use a dash, unless it's very important -- then I use two. And even then, only sometimes.
 
@JohnDvorak Aha, that explains your bank account. *runs*
 
@JohnDvorak Yeah... I used it to show indeterminate checkboxes in a web-app because the client said it looked good
 
4:21 PM
as long as you misspell stuff consistently, it doesnt really matter for stuff like variables and function/class names
 
@JohnDvorak I'll use a hyphen, and how long it is depends on how quickly I'm writing...
 
Referer
> It's not a period. It's an i-dash.
 
4:40 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how many people who're working in/with communication technologies and the protocols involved therein show an utter disregard for rules/conventions (i.e. protocols) when it comes to natural languages ...
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There is a difference between a chat room and anything professional, be it documentation, client correspondence, etc. Even then, very few people care about the "correct" use of en-/em-/figure dashes, hyphens and minus signs. Even less so with handwriting where its nigh impossible to tell them apart from one another, don't get me started on semicolons.
 
Hiya guys ...
@Zoe aye
Out for 2 weeks, or more because of other reasons not related to SO
The company's launching a new product with too many flashy features... Only the US team had to overwork, but now they're pulling in the India team too ... so I'm pulled into that, and kinda screwed. :p
 
@BhargavRao gl! And have fun :p
 
Thanks!
I thought I could manage (and I did for the first 3 weeks), but I was looking like I was dead so stopped ;p
Now I am just dead on the inside
 
4:56 PM
Well enjoy knowing that while you're working I'll be in Harry Potter land in Orlando :p
 
Hehe .. have a nice time!
 
I'm sure I will, besides flying from GLA there, then a week later flying back via AMS, long flights for a week
 
@Dragonrage Do you care about elegant and easy-to-understand writing?
 
(Assuming they are IATA codes) ... not sure which airports they are
 
@M.A.R. when your dyslexic, it all kind of looks the same
 
5:02 PM
The sad thing about IATA codes is they make sure that you don't know which airport they are
YYZ was the Toronto airport
 
Glasgow and Amsterdam
 
user4064062
 
I was so damn confused when the tickets I booked said YYZ
Lol, that SAN is so true
 
I didn't say MCO because I couldn't remember that that was Orlando's code
 
When I was studying at UCSD, I used to say SAN to confuse people
 
5:04 PM
@Dragonrage Dose it nwo. Wrtiing thnigs corectly maeks it bettre fro everone. I'm not implying you endorse crappy writing, or that I know the second thing about dyslexia. Striving to write better and more comprehensible sentences has an intrapersonal side to it as well.
It doesn't matter in chat, and that's why I was joking about it
 
You were joking?!
That wasn't at all obvious lol
 
But I would, for example, recommend people not to write "dear" while typing a question on the main site, because it does matter.
 
Dear M.A.R., understood. Thanks
 
Wait
 
@NickA I was jockeying
 
5:05 PM
What's happening?
 
@NickA Thanks sweetheart
@BhargavRao It's a lame movie
 
What's this commotion about?
 
@M.A.R. That's alright hun
 
It's not a commotion
More like a monologue
 
Don't ban us!
 
5:06 PM
Just ban Nick
 
I'm on phone, so can't ban
Can just kick
 
@M.A.R. D:
 
;p
Anyway, dinner time. See ya all sometime later.
 
@NickA I was in agreement with your "don't ban us" statement
 
Cya bhar
@M.A.R. I can see that... -.-
 
5:16 PM
@M.A.R. i usually try to write correctly, doesnt always happen though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
5:33 PM
.o( dyslexics of the world, untie!!1! )
 
Zoe
6:02 PM
@BhargavRao three dots -> "use desktop version". You're welcome, please prioritize @Nick so I can steal his popcorn again ;P
 
6:18 PM
@Zoe frowns
 
Zoe
Woah, 3 flags O.o
Not here though
 
I'm a jerk but not a flaggable jerk
 
Is that so.
 
@Zoe as in chat flags?
 
Zoe
@NickA yeah
 
6:32 PM
what's going down :D grabs popcorn
 
I'll take that. *confiscates Nick's popcorn* *munches*
 
:(
 
You can never win. MWAHAHAHAHA- *chokes on popcorn*
 
6:56 PM
posted on September 25, 2019

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I could type this into a solver, which MIGHT help, but would also mean I have to get a lot of parentheses right...
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7:45 PM
@Magisch @M.A.R. and other ROs etc - Starting tomorrow, I'll not be around so much for the next ~week and a half, due to not planning on being near my laptop that often. I'll still be around, but not quite so available, so... leaving stuff mostly in your hands for the next week and a half.
 
Oh no
We can't trust M.A.R.
 
I know, I know, it's a horrible thing really but nothing to do about it
:P
I'll be out on a bicycle somewhere, probably puncturing my tires and yelling at the machine for stuff that's entirely my fault
 
subtle evil smile
 
user4064062
 
Meh, I'm not particularly active all that often. Might be starting next week Monday or something
 
 
1 hour later…
9:16 PM
Oh, hello Shog
 
'eveninh
 
What was the removed message? :P
 
@NickA He posted his PII.
 
Ah i c
Best get to making Shog10 :P
 
Along with bitcoin wallet, gmail password, and code on how to hack rep
 
9:21 PM
Hack? He'll just jump into SQL and bump a few 0s on ^^
 
For non-Shogians
 
9:39 PM
@NickA Nothing interesting. I was rather disappointed...
 
10:07 PM
maybe he just wanted to test to see how many RO's would be nosy enough to look at the history
 
"all of them"
 
10:59 PM
can ROs see deleted messages?
 
@SamuelLiew yes
 

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