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1:03 AM
I don't really think global alliance in combating the climate change is really going to happen. It's the typical free-rider problem.
In the social sciences, the free-rider problem is a type of market failure that occurs when those who benefit from resources, public goods, or services of a communal nature do not pay for them. Free riders are a problem because while not paying for the good, they may continue to access it. Thus, the good may be under-produced, overused or degraded. The free-rider problem in social science is the question of how to limit free riding and its negative effects in these situations. The free-rider problem may occur when property rights are not clearly defined and imposed.The free-rider problem is common...
It's like eight people hiring a minibus to reach the same destination but two didn't want to share the cost. Now make it 200 people but 120 didn't want to pay.
 
 
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6:16 AM
@Mithrandir It's saddening. Most people I know think her whole campaign is a publicity stunt by people looking to garner more green subsidies
 
6:35 AM
@Magisch Some people are idiotic.
 
Unfortunately, for the reasons telkitty linked above, climate action is kind of an all or nothing problem
 
Yes but that’s how we start
 
6:54 AM
@TylerH yeah it's a pain
 
7:39 AM
good morning or your timezone's equivalent
 
7:50 AM
o/
 
 
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9:06 AM
I was rereading the post about this room, and a silly question came to my mind, why was this room created instead of reviving the SO tavern ?
Nevermind, already mentionned by rene under the question :)
 
9:22 AM
@Tensibai Yeah, he did both suggest the duplicate and also provided a link to a post which talks about how previous rooms didn't work :), for the most part we just chat nonsense but are happy to help anyone that wanders in
 
I take offence to that, there is nothing nonsensical about popcorn and horses.
 
9:44 AM
To be extra clear, I was just wondering if the reason for a new one was to "cut" from history or just having forget the Tavern has been a thing before :)
 
Zoe
Morning o/
steals Nick's popcorn
 
Morning Zoe ;p
 
 
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11:31 AM
Hi guys, there is an old question here on SO, I have an answer which I feel could be interesting to people, but if I add it as an answer to that OLD question (5 years old), I am pretty sure it will get lost soon without anybody seeing it. If I ask a new question - it will be closed as duplicate most likely. What is the solution in such case?
 
Answer the old question
Don't duplicate questions just to answer them.
Questions get visibility from being problems people are looking for solutions for.
Age isn't that important, there, if it's still a problem people are trying to solve.
 
@Cerbrus Yeah but as I said, the number of people who will see that answer will be practically 0. Until people will start paying attention to answer buried below all answers with 0 vote.
 
If your answer is good enough, people will see it...
But that leads me to think the question already has multiple good answers? If so, does your answer add something new?
 
@Cerbrus Yes, it adds a kind of example not shown by other answers
 
If it's a new approach to the problem, then it can be a valuable addition to the existing question...
But is the only new thing a example? Or is the solution itself a new approach?
 
11:38 AM
@Cerbrus It shows a problem which arises by using some approach - other answers don't show such a problem AFAIK. But like I said if I post it below other answers MOST LIKELY it will be lost in few days
 
Can you link to the question we're talking about here?
 
It is kind of example I wish I had seen when I was learning about React keys for example
Here is both the question and answer: stackoverflow.com/a/57267614/3963067
 
It seems to me that Chris' answer already covers that issue...
But then again, I don't know much about react.
 
@Cerbrus Yeah I would argue my example more clearly demonstrates the problem and also shows problem with stateful components, such example is missing in Chriss answer.
 
Fair enough.
 
11:47 AM
So as an example I'd prefer to see the example in my answer (Could be subjective). Chris's answer has explanations though
@Cerbrus But this way this answer will NEVER be noticed in practice :) So that's the problem I had :)
 
I think the answer is fine, but I wouldn't be surprised if it nets a few downvotes anyway. There is a big difference between what an answer implies and what people see, and what people will see is a new answer which has a lot in it that was already present in other answers.
 
@giorgim Don't be so sure, a bunch of people do like me and sort answers by activity
 
@Gimby Example similar to mine wasn't specified in other answers. Anyway I just shared what I thought was kind of example I'd like to see when I was learning react, and which I couldn't find at the time..... But this way it will most likely be lost. .So I guess there is no solution to such problem............... ok thanks anyway
 
12:04 PM
@Cerbrus Actually the linked question asks why user is getting warning about not specifying keys. She is not asking for an example which shows what problems not specifying keys causes. Maybe I could ask a new question, phrased in that way?
 
That seems just a bit too broad...
 
@Cerbrus No, on the contrary: to ask question about specific example of what can go wrong with not using keys
 
 
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1:38 PM
@Tensibai isn't activity the default sort option?
 
@TylerH I think your choice stick somewhere in a cookie, I think when I've sorted answers by votes, going to another question keep the order
 
@TylerH Votes is default IIRC but it is stored
 
@giorgim If it's of any help, when you post an answer to an old question, that question gets bumped to the top of the question list, with a "answered/modified XX seconds ago by giorgim" that links to your answer directly. And I am sure I am not the only one that clicks that link instead of the main one, when browsing the question page. So your new answer should get a fair amount of exposure (fair = the same as any other new answer to any other non-bountied question).
 
1:59 PM
Hello
What should we do if OP wrote his API key in his mcve?
 
Zoe
Remove it, flag for mod attention and ask for revision redaction, and leave a comment telling them to change it now.
 
@aloisdg Edit it out and raise a mod flag
@Zoe Grrrrr
 
alright
@Zoe @NickA done
 
Cool
 
OP also included in codepen.io
Btw is there a Meta post fo this or should I write one Q&A Style. It could be helpful for someone else. cc @Zoe @NickA
 
2:05 PM
 
perfect. upvoted.
 
IIRC Mods may just replace the key in the old revision with a new bogus one, so don't be surprised if it's marked helpful but it still has a key in it
 
good to know and make sense
 
Zoe
@NickA <3
 
Raises foot.... and stamps near but not on Zoe's tail
 
Zoe
2:14 PM
:squint:
 
=D
 
Hello. Is there a SO site that allows me to ask a question about where to find, for instance, an Azure DevOps dev with expertise in Kubernetes Service?
 
@Eric As in to hire a freelancer or similar? I don't think so
 
Yeah, freelancer
Ok, thanks Nick
 
np
@Eric btw that "I don't think so", is extremely close to a "Definitely not", but I'm only about 99% sure
 
2:22 PM
Well, the closest thing would be posting an offer on SO jobs :)
 
Yeah, I don't know about SO jobs so thought best to avoid that, although you may be right
 
@NickA mods can do nearly anything when redacting a post, that's why once a mod has made a redaction it has to be reviewed by another mod (to avoid abuses, etc. I assume)
 
Idd, just didn't want aloisdg to get confused if there was still a key present :)
 
@NickA That's nothing more nothing less than job offerings, there's freelancer.com too I think
Just saying because I've been a bit surprised the first time I had to redact sensitive informations in a post :)
 
Here's the flag response I got some time ago: Credentials posted in the code in question, it's likely that the OP does not want these present in the edit history. – Nick A Jul 6 '17 at 11:27 helpful - "they are not real. I changed some digits in all 4 credentials. "
 
Zoe
2:30 PM
Yeah, I got a similar one too (different question though)
A mod shuffled some SHA bits around to make it invalid, and deleted the previous content.
 
2:53 PM
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Q: How to configure Spring boot with wildfly server

Santhosh KeshannagariI have requirement to use spring boot with Jboss Wildfly server, Not aware of how to configure the same. Need help!!

That just makes me sad.
Upvoted, not closed, late link-only answer to a Portuguese resource...
 
lmao
 
Welcome to SO
 
Zoe
The meta effect is real
 
@Zoe Does the meta room cause the meta effect?... :P
 
Zoe
I don't see why it would. We're a room, not an effect.
 
3:06 PM
the meta effect is good, the lemming effect is the evil twin
 
If only people exhibited the lemming effect... natural selection at it's finest
 
In any case consider this a rare occurrence that I post directly to a question, this one just... I couldn't resist :)
 
Try replace document.membershipIndividualJoin.action = ... to window.location.href = ...Chiu 14 mins ago
 
@KevinB How'd you find that gem
 
Basically you make it your hobby to look at Javascript questions and then you'll spot one like every five minutes or so.
 
3:12 PM
And someone took that to make an answer with "Try this" as header...
 
^ I did see that
 
Well, creating an answer from someone else comment is ok in my book, when you create an answer and not just dump raw code without the slightest explanation of why it would answer the question
 
It's annoying when questions like that come up, like, there's no duplicate, because either it's title is too bad to find, or previous iterations were closed/deleted. but it's such a simple concept that you know it's been asked a few dozen times.
 
@KevinB Welcome to SO
 
3:38 PM
If those keywords makes sense for OP maybe they would for someone else too. I would close as duplicate without too much editing of the original question. Naming is hard.
 
finally read the blog post about the dev taking SO from screen to stage. Disappointed; thought it was going to be about the dev who built SO
 
Still haven't, worth reading?
 
eh, it's a quick read
if you enjoy Ember(JS) or livestreaming then maybe
 
So's the one on the CEO change and that wasn't really worth reading :P
 
the one announcing Joel stepping down? or another one?
because apparently he hasn't actually stepped down yet
 
3:43 PM
No, 1st October
The one about his replacement
 
are you... in the future?
 
?
 
also, now I see the one that was just posted today
@NickA It's sep 24th here, quite a ways away from October 1st
 
I meant when the new one is appointed, not when I am :P
 
ah
He has his own SE profile as well
 
4:00 PM
"2 months ago" I think he joined SE when he accepted the job
 
quite possibly
 
!
Kinda all I wanna say at this point
 
I would rather hope it would be someone with at least a few thousand rep on some site; that would indicate they know how their product operates
 
4:13 PM
meh
i was expecting worse
happy to wait and see how it unfolds
 
I envy your patience @KevinB
 
 
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7:17 PM
meh
@Gimby I wanna go post "how do I Java in scripts".
 

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