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Q: Cookie Privacy popup launches on every refresh and navigation

Suraj RaoThis seems to be similar to Cookie settings on every page But I am seeing this on the main site and not on meta. I have tried accepting "all cookies" as well as "necessary cookies". I am using Firefox 111 on ubuntu.

 
4:02 AM
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Q: Please [vault] this tag

LaurelI went through the vault tag and replaced it with ansible-vault as appropriate. The remaining questions seem to all be about hashicorp-vault (not an expert though), sometimes through a specific library such as spring-vault. Can [vault] be merged into [hashicorp-vault]? I assumed that any question...

 
 
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5:55 AM
If the question is "how do I do X?" and an answer is effectively "in case you actually want to do Y, ...", I should flag NAA, yes?
 
Unfortunately, no. NAA on SO is about any text that didn't belong in an answer box. E.g., "I have this problem too". Text which would belong in an answer box on a different question isn't NAA.
Other stacks are more loose with this any may accept NAA for answers about Y on question about X.
 
6:25 AM
@KarlKnechtel Relevant reading: When to flag an answer as "not an answer"
 
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Q: when guest on his/her wi-fi connection open a popup for entering username and password of wi-fi router how to handle in MVC, jquery

MummzAs a software engineer, I need it in my home when guests come they activate the wifi connection in the device/laptop, They got a popup for the username and password how it is working? For example: When we go to cafes or hotels. we activate the wifi on our mobile automatically a popup comes up tha...

 
> As a software engineer, I need it in my home when guests come they activate the wifi connection
Software engineer who gets guests? This doesn't sound right.
/dumb joke
 
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Q: How to notify all answerers about change of my question on SO?

JordyI've asked about this before on SO and there have been several answerers answering the question. The next 2 days I submitted Bounties on this question so I could determine the best answer. How do I notify each responder so they can re-edit their answer based on the Bounties I've created?

 
7:07 AM
It's really frustrating how I keep asking "how do I mitigate the problem of SO being flooded with wrong or irrelevant nonsense?" and being told "you can't, lol"
*how is this supposed to be compatible* with "building a library of high-quality, detailed answers"?
 
 
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8:08 AM
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Q: Grammatical issue on displaying the badge\badges on stackoverflow dashboard

Abdulvakaf KThere is grammatical issue on displaying the spelling of badge when hovering the mouse pointer to the badge icon. I meant, if we have single digit badge, then it should show as "badge", else if morethan one then it should show as "badges", but in someplace I could see it is showing as "badges" fo...

 
8:32 AM
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Q: In MVC C# can we setup wi-fi connection open a popup for entering username and password of WIFI modem?

MummzHow would MVC use the wifi connection in the device/laptop, A popup will open for the username and password how it is working? For example: When we go to cafes or hotels. we activate the wifi on our mobile automatically a popup comes up that cafe or hotels names website to enter the username and ...

 
 
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10:22 AM
@NewPosts Screenshot of the end of the week.
 
10:37 AM
at least it's not a screenshot of a screenshot... (happened quite often on Android.SE for "what app is this notification come from?" + an additional and annoying context of "on my boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse's phone")
 
10:50 AM
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Q: foreach not working in handlebar using nodejs

Deepika Raturi{{#each options.unfunded as | respdata |}} {{respdata.Month}} {{respdata.Salary}} {{/each}}

 
^ some details are missing. Perhaps we need to know whether that code runs on a boyfriend/girflriend/souse's device to accurately pinpoint why it doesn't work.
 
 
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1:02 PM
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Q: Do the cookies already work while you just log in on the login screen of a Stack Exchange?

questionto42If you are logged out, and you log in with your username or just with the "Log in" button, I wonder whether the cookies already work you. As soon as you log in, it takes the cookie settings of the login: Say you want to always allow nothing more than the necessary cookies. Would you then need to...

 
 
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3:44 PM
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Q: what to do about an answer that is majority copy/paste of another answer?

Trevor Boyd Smith First: https://stackoverflow.com/a/66637144 Second: https://stackoverflow.com/a/73031568 Please note the first one has a datetime that is about 1 year earlier. so the second is more likely a copy of the first. Also the second answer does not quote or properly. What to do about an answer that is...

 
Flagged the answer with the new plagiarism flag. I mostly wanted to get to use it. I assume maybe I wasn't the only one but still.
 
@VLAZ you're the second of currently three
 
I graciously accept the silver medal.
 
have you considered using the plagiarism flag?
 
4:08 PM
since when do mods now decline to delete repeated answers just because they have upvotes?
inconsistency FTL
 
this answer also suggested a jquery solution that is identical, so it's providing new info
can we just nuke the question?
 
@KevinB sure, what question
 
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Q: Get current URL with jQuery?

venkatachalamI am using jQuery. How do I get the path of the current URL and assign it to a variable? Example URL: http://localhost/menuname.de?foo=bar&number=0

 
You'll have to update this page first
since it can't currently be user-deleted
 
var x = $(location).attr('<property>'); is the top trending answer
such a great feature
 
4:17 PM
at least it doesn't use let
 
It's the same explanation that the one before, but with all the element of the object. Great Answer. — Oskar Calvo Sep 28, 2013 at 8:09
> it's the same as the existing answer but includes a bunch of extra sh!t the op wasn't asking for, great answer!
 
4:33 PM
 
my god
feels like they shifted the conversation from "this feature is awful" to "we need to handle feedback better" while... not addressing the feedback that prompted needing to handle feedback better
 
4:51 PM
That and also the whole "content discovery" kind of comes from nowhere but also goes nowhere. I mean, I know it's not a new initiative. Nor is it unexplainable that SE would want to serve more relevant content. That's an admirable goal. It just seems like they are trying to bandaid over a series a decade old festered would which is already covered with a decade's worth of bandaids.
The lack of tools for bringing content together isn't really a new issue. By not having these for so long we got to the state where content is no longer really easy to find. Some search queries bring up dozens of unrelated questions
Just because those share some keywords and the search engine classes them higher than actually relevant content.
SE search is, of course, worse.
The whole initiative takes this as "well, it is what it is" and tries to find other ways to produce more relevant content...by also leveraging other systems which also don't work. Like "Related"
It also seems like it comes from nowhere because it just seems...amateurish. Like somebody gave some interns a project. Because the reply you got to your comment shows shocking lack of awareness of the very system they are trying to leverage.
@KevinB Thanks, I've fixed the screencaps! And to clarify, the scope of this experiment is to see if we can put related questions in a place people will see them. There are good questions to ask about how to serve better related questions but that's out of scope here. — Salmon_of_Wisdom ♦ Feb 10 at 16:34
Also these two comments almost perfectly encapsulate the misunderstandings of the existing systems:
@Marijn They are almost always more relevant than Related Questions... — TylerH Oct 25, 2022 at 21:27
("they" being "Linked questions)
@TylerH can you elaborate on why you think they are more relevant than Related Questions? Do the linked questions help you get to your solution faster because someone else solved a similar problem and directed you to a post that contained a similar answer? — tanj92 Oct 26, 2022 at 20:22
These reply by staff only make sense if staff truly actually believes "Related" questions are useful in the vast majority of cases. But users overlook them. Whereas the vast majority of users have trained themselves to skip Related due to how little use is there of the section.
When I say it looks "amateurish" that's what I mean. It's like they offer beauty products, a wild Kevin appears to say "but the discolouration of the skin comes from this wound over there" to which the response is "maybe we'll look into dressing the wound better in the future but for now we want to see which shade of foundation makeup they prefer"
 
5:50 PM
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Q: Why is SO discouraging Questions and Answers writing?

everestial007I have been continuously feeling that SO nowadays discourages Q&A writing on SO. I come across a problem, and I do: - Search (Google, Bing, etc.) - Find similar QnA that links to SO old QnA - Then I read this Q&A, take the answers. - But, often - the given answers don't apply directly - are incom...

 
@NewPosts I've grown completely numb to the "SO will be replaced by CGPT" argument
I've started realising it means a slight reduction in bad questions, and people who hate the platform and do a 747 on those grounds probably won't come back just because it means admitting they were wrong, and now have to step over the remnants of the bridges they burned
 
we should probably find a new aircraft model since 747 is being retired
 
Boeing A380?
 
6:06 PM
Probably good, fits in with the new euphemism for Boeing, "if it's Boeing, it ain't going"
@VLAZ I also enjoy i.stack.imgur.com/HpQ9m.png -- my mod flag to delete the top one there as a copy of the second was declined, because "due to the score people apparently found it useful". First time I've had a mod flag for duplicate answers declined because it had upvotes
Well @KevinB Today's good news is that stackoverflow.com/questions/406192/get-current-url-with-jquery can now be nuked by 10 enterprising curators.
 
Random history tidbid: when Concorde launched the overall expectation was that people would vastly prefer taking a faster flight and would choose that. Boeing were amid the creation cycle for a large plane at the time (maybe the 747). It was a passanger plane when they started but sort of expected it to shift its usage to more of a cargo plane.
Turns out the larger plane with more space was a lot cheaper to fly with than Concorde and thus people preferred it for travelling. Which eventually was a major contributing factor to Concorde going out of business since it never managed to win a steady place with travellers.
 
6:23 PM
@VLAZ absolutely. I think it's fair that maybe they genuinely didn't know how bad related questions were, and that that fact is certainly out of scope for what they're doing here, but at minimum it should be looked at as a reason to instead use a new module with a different name rather than using the existing one that is clearly (to anyone whose been here for a while) terrible at what it's built for.
 
"More from Stack Overflow"
Like you're on a site which tries to push you to read more articles and thus spend more time there.
 
i don't like "More from SO" because that's gonna become 1: sponsored article, 2: partner article, 3: old popular question with 5 pages of answers, load more
but it'd maybe be better than what we got?
 
It is what we got. I only suggest renaming it to what it is.
 
I'd prefer "Trending Questions" and have it list questions less than a year old with abnormally high activity
 
The "past HNQ list"?
 
6:27 PM
but then every question would have the same list
:shrug:
eh, not HNQ, i wouldn't want it showing weird stuff from lowly sites that don't matter
 
I mean, HNQ for SO tends to just bring abnormally high activity. So, if you make a list of questions with abnormally high activity for SO, you'd end up with most the ones which were on the HNQ.
 
maybe throw a tag filter on it
but then we're becoming related questions
hows abotu we just get rid of the module
 
I would start with tags and then do a match based on the title, then do a ML-based weight assignment for similarity based on the body
 
this title looks like a foreign language at first glance: "Set Vite base via GitLab CI_PAGES_URL variable"
 
@TylerH What SE very desperately need is a dupe finder system that leverages trained modules and whatever else fancy new tech is there to tackle the problem. Doesn't need to be autonomously closing dupes but it should be working towards finding those. That will alleviate the work of site curators and they can also leverage it to show the actual more relevant content they say they want to show.
I'm not going to claim it's going to be easy to just do this. But also it's far from being outside the bounds of possibility.
 
6:39 PM
@TylerH Starship /s
 
that would require spending money on Q&A
 
Oh, right. I see where the problem would be there.
The most economically viable solution is to just move some content around on the page.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine if they would friggin license that thing over at the FAA
jesus
 
> Warning: You provided a value prop to a form field without an onChange handler. This will render a read-only field. If the field should be mutable use defaultValue. Otherwise, set either onChange or readOnly. Please Help.
 
@VLAZ yeah, imagine if they just spent a solid year developing and iterating on that kind of feature for the site
it would be amazing
 
6:45 PM
@KevinB 1. See error 2. Copy error 3. Post error on SO 4. "HELP!"
 
@TylerH I'd prefer it if they didn't for commercial intra-planetary flights. youtube.com/watch?v=jQUiIdre-MI
 
meh
it's never gonna be a feasible tool for that outside of for military purposes where money is a concern for tomorrow, not today
 
@VLAZ the problem isn't just finding the dupes but how many there are.
 
@KarlKnechtel Yes, you are completely right. However, I think consolidating the dupes should be the first step before adding more tooling to do something about the numbers. Making question merges more viable (or...viable) can follow. Q&As can be cleaned up to be more lightweight signposts by not being full Q&As but sort of satellite meta information to the canonical.
SE has to face it - the library of knowledge it tried to make has become unmanageable to the community. Not all of it but a significant portion is. Tring to find a canonical in a swamp of similar but all flawed related Q&As, where each has 1-2 answers is just awful to sift through. These have had me leave the task in frustration. I can fill the dupe limit with bunch of things that *should be duplicates but aren't because each might have different piece of the puzzle.
2
And even the full dupe list won't actually answer the question.
On top of that, I am very well aware that an answer exists. It has been something I've seen years ago and actually taught me a valuable lesson on the topic. But it has now sunk in the swamp of Q&As of "Try this" solutions.
 
obviously we should just get rid of dupe closure, have all questions start at -3, and auto-delete any question that doesn't reach 0 within 6 months
retro-actively -3 all existing questions
i was fooled into thinking a related question was an exact dupe
if tags were included it would have been obvious that it wasn't
 
7:01 PM
Yes, many things sound like an exact dupe. But aren't even about the same problem
 
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Q: Javascript - adding listeners to dynamically created HTML elements works from console, but not directly from code?

Lubos ChlebickiI often create modal content elements dynamically by inserting strings into the modal element's innerHTML. In the strings, I include class attributes to later access the elements using doc.qSelAll later like: someData.forEach(item=>{ modal.innerHTML += `<span id='${item.label' class='modalspan'> ...

> Adding listeners to Dynamically Added Elements
 
Isn't Event binding on dynamically created elements? "better". Erm, as in linked more?
 
well, that's jquery
the new question isn't
 
There is a non-jQuery answer or...who knows how many. I only know there is one in the top 5.
 
i missed the "either with jQuery directly or by another option."
which would make it a 1 way dupe
 
7:07 PM
I think it was originally posted as jQuery
and later edited to be more general
 
nah
that's in the original version
 
yup
i'll undo the link to adding on this one and fix adding
> CAVEATS! The example Fiddle only includes code for the standards-compliant browsers (i.e., IE9+
 
lol
Was it 9 or 10 which cheated at the standards compliancy test?
 
haven't heard of that
 
7:20 PM
It was great. The new version was out (9 or 10) and Microsoft boasted how it was even more standards compliant. There was an official page you could go to which meausred various things like which CSS was handled, which JS was and how. Then gave some score. And IE did indeed score high. Only it turned out that when the exact same test was merely hosted on another domain, IE had a lot lower score. While Chome/FF/Opera performed the same.
 
@VLAZ Worse yet is when the flawed related Q&As have 30 answers each, of which maybe 3 are distinct and the most duplicated one is bad.
it's bad enough that I've been seriously contemplating the idea of going to area51 to propose new stacks to, essentially, reboot SO with much narrower scope and stricter requirements
@VLAZ how did they even do this? did they bake in "correct" renderings somehow? just flat out report a false score for the test?
@VLAZ then there are the problems where the majority of people who have the problem, describe it using words that mean something else
 
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Q: Should I give feedback if a post doesn't have import statements?

Blue RobinBackground When reviewing first questions, sometimes I find code snippets with no import statements. Sometimes, the import statements are implied within the tags, and it's only a singular library. I've seen this post. However, it doesn't answer how to give feedback to these questions. Possible so...

 
> why is it showing error while creating react app
because the error described in the error message occured
 
@KarlKnechtel I don't remember the exact details but the test will try showing some elements with some CSS properties and measure if all properties are taken into account. Does the same with JS, as well. In the end gives you a score based on which test failed or not. MS must have hardcoded some correct rendering rules for the things used in the test. Like exactly what's used in the test, since it's not randomised.
And that code kicked in only at the official page where it was hosted.
Not unlike the Volkswagen scandal more recently where cars showed emissions within reasonable bounds but only when used in test environment. Otherwise the emissions were a lot lot higher than the norms.
@KarlKnechtel Yes. And not just "alternative wording" they regularly explain an entirely different thing to what they experience. Common is to talk about "sorting" when they mean "filtering". Or "mapping". Or "iteration". Or, generally, anything about "doing stuff with array". I don't even know why it's so common to call all of this "sorting".
Perhaps "sorting out" as in "fixing"?
 
7:39 PM
it's all sorting tho
 
But also often people ask about a TypeScript error which...isn't about TS but JS. And it's not something you can easily mistake. One I saw recently reported an error they got while running the code and said something like "TS must be complaining because I have the wrong type". Which would be a compilation error yet clearly the code ran.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine I don't think that'll happen, or if it does it'll be many many years. It's much more likely that it'll be just for traditional rocket launches for at least a decade or two.
@VLAZ That's like the crypto currency junk on the SO. Probably 10-15% of all the questions are actually JavaScript errors
dupes of canonical JS questions
 
i hate when a common js mistake is made in a different context
 
My most major activity on the Python tag is to occasionally vote to close a question as a dupe of Why does my recursive function return None? (since I keep an eye on the recursion tag). And users seem to come up with all sorts of explanations for the problem. When they are missing a return.
 
like within angular code
 
7:44 PM
@KevinB Yes. And to spice it up, a JS gold badge holder tries to convince you it's not just missing the value of this because this is Angular or React or whatever.
To be clear, the gold badge holder that tried this with me was not the author of the question. Just disagreed with the closure in the comments.
 
I should probably start answering JS questions to get a JS gold badge
there are lot of JS questions that are adjacent to ones I see a lot that I can't dupehammer
 
I have the same problem with Node and TS. Many JS problems asked without the JS tag. And I cannot hammer the other ones.
 
i was happy to finally get js gold badge
i can dupe close so much
until they redo the requirements for performing curation actions to things i havent done and can't be bothered to do
when they redo editing permissions to require having n suggested edits approved and suddenly i have to actually suggest edits
i completely skipped suggesting edits
and flagging for closure
 
I suspect they're grandfather some users in or look at other things
like close votes and edits
 
imagine if suddenly everyone who skipped flagging for closure can no longer close vote
 
7:52 PM
yeah, that'd be... bad
 
Changing the privileges system to merit-based without grandfathering older privileged users would be exceptionally bad, indeed.
IMO, there should be a dual system anyway. Either you get X rep to unlock the thing (same as now) or you can reduce it by doing the lesser thing correctly. Suggested edits will reduce the requirement for a full edit privilege. And correct flags will reduce the close vote privilege. Until eventually you cross the threshold even if you're on 1 rep.
 
8:10 PM
@VLAZ because they don't understand a) how function calls work; b) that making a recursive call is calling a function
 
@KarlKnechtel Oh yeah, plenty don't. There is also some special misconceptions with recursive calls that if you call the same function from inside, you move the execution to the top. Which, for recursion, would make it seem like the return in the base case is enough - once reached, returns the value from the single call to the function.
However, that's not what I'm talking about. Users seem to come up with all sorts of other explanations. Then still are puzzled by the explanation they came up with. Like "variables disappear" or maybe something to do with references. Or parallel execution.
 
8:28 PM
@VLAZ see also: "combinations", "command"
 
so, uh, someone posted a "this is a typo" answer, and when called out on it updated it to "You have mixed up your terminology"
which, they aren't wrong per-se, but the error the op made is very much in the spririt of the kinds of questions that close reason is for
 
@VLAZ coming up with arbitrarily wild alternative explanations is still a symptom of the same underlying cause: not have the right explanation, which for something like this is a direct result of not understanding the background material
 
using node.current instead of node.right, when node.current doesn't exist in the code at all
and node.right is absolutely the intended property
 
no matter what strange theory someone comes up with for recursion, the correct approach is to sit them down, shake the wrong idea out of the student's head, and start from the beginning with the right ideas.
which is why we can send all those questions to the same "why does it return none" canonical.
and why, when I get around to my "function calls are not a goto, silly" canonical, it will have that as a see-also.
 
@VLAZ to me it sortof seems like, they're building tools from an outsider perspective. I'm sure they're well aware of the features that exist and what they do, but how the community has used and affected those features is another thing entirely that's being missed
if you look at related questions from a logical perspective, that it takes tags and maybe does a weak search of posts with similar words in the title/exerpt, it's reasonable to assume that given a well curated collection of Q&A pairs, it'd be relatively useful
but... we don't have a well curated collection of Q&A pairs on several levels
the most upvoted posts are a mixed bag. Some are awesome, many are mediocre and just common problems, and then there's stuff that was bad 10 years ago and still is but it was a common google term for a few years
they're all being pulled in by the same query and displayed together, there's little to no way of differentiating between them.
 
8:37 PM
@KevinB any way we can organize a project to identify the stuff that was/still is bad, and do something about it?
 
possibly
 
I'm especially annoyed with the top questions about import in Python, followed closely by old Unicode handling questions (although a lot of those are just no longer relevant anyway)
 
for example, the recent jquery one i brought up is now eligible for deletion by 10 people
 
what exactly is the formula for number of delete votes needed?
 
votes/some number
more upvotes, more delete votes needed
 
8:39 PM
no specifics? then how did you come up with 10?
 
the ui says
 
... it does? where?
or did you mean "10 people have voted to delete it already"?
 
after you vote there's a tooltip on hover specifying the required votes
an alternative solution would be to delete 46 answers
but that'd take way more votes
one of the answers is correct
 
@KevinB Yeah. Was a typo. Literally useless to anybody else. And the user who answered (twice, the first a WILD guess) seems to be on a spree answering typos. This was probably their third answer I saw from the recent questions I looked at. And I didn't look at that many, either.
 
the rest are either copies or awful
 
8:42 PM
I'm doing rifts in D3 and tabbing to SO between.
 
tried to flag a few, but got declines because techinically it's answering the question and adding new info.
you know, because $(location).attr is... well, something.
 
We can't live without half a dozen answers mentioning it and...basically having that line of code in them.
 
good look getting 842 people to downvote it
btw
these posts suggesting using $(location).attr still get upvotes
one got one as recently as last month
9 upvotes (0 downvotes) in 2022
like, wtf
 
9:04 PM
@VLAZ half the problem is all the people demanding problem-solving attempts in the question, resulting in questions whose answers have only half the solution to any given problem
okay maybe not half the problem, but a significant portion of the problem
another part of the problem is when you know that it's a common issue but you can't find it because the keywords that describe the problem are sort of predicated on knowing the answer already
 
@RyanM I saw one maybe an hour ago where OP reported they had a syntax error and posted the message from the Java compiler for why it didn't like the code. The first comment asked OP to provide a MCVE and ensure it runs.
@RyanM Also a problem - the Q&As around some issues are so weak that because it's hard to find a duplicate people just keep answering more questions.
Which makes it an ever growing problem with no solution in sight.
And this is the path a lot of common issues are down on regardless of how easy it is to find a canonical now. Because any effort is enough to just push users to answer more and make it harder to find. Which, with time, makes promoting a canonical a complete mess.
 
the process stopped working optimally many years ago
it's often a futile task to look up dupes, because except in a few rare cases, there is no one well received dupe target. Even if you do find a decent question to close against, you're just contributing to an ugly web of dupe closures with no "top dog" Q&A pair taking the lead and consuming all the links
i'd like to see a visual representation of dupe closures at some point,
witha sort-of web drawn between the most used targets and least used, having a visual representation that you can look at for some of these common questions could help finding the best target among thousands
 
9:20 PM
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Q: Popularity [s4] or consistency [r-s4]: which should prevail when synonymizing tags?

Mikael JaganThe R language has a few frameworks for object oriented programming. The popular ones are: S3: r-s3 S4: r-s4s4 R6: r6 and some people are working on an S7. S3 uses r-s3 exclusively because s3 is a synonym for amazon-s3. That's fine, but I wonder if, for that reason, we should be consistent a...

 
9:31 PM
@RyanM that part is fine, and unavoidable. Dupe-hammering questions isn't generally a black mark against the asker. But we need to actually have proper canonicals for that to work right.
@KevinB I don't quite have that (understatement), but I do have two SEDE queries I find very useful here: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1724288 data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1724280
 
i imagine it as a sort of... tag cloud-like deal where you can, from a distance, see the largest clouds and then determine what smaller clouds should become part of the bigger ones
where the size of the cloud is a measure of both score, and number of times it has been used as a dupe
the idea is... before you can begin to clean up the questions that aren't closed as a dupe, first you need to determine what the dupe targets you need to focus on are. It's often a bit easier to find dupes when you look for them from an existing target
particularly when said dupes have been answered already
given that answers often use similar, if not identical, terminology when answering common dupes
 
Yes.
I actually have a tab open with a draft to RFC such a process for import questions.
I didn't consider doing actual objective metric analysis, though.
er, actually, wait. I read that more closely and what I'm proposing is not really related.
really I just want to have a better canonical set.
 
9:47 PM
well, the goal of what i'm talking about is just that
it just goes about it in a very... analytical way
rather than choosing myself which question is the best target, which one has already been used for that purpose the most
sortof... helping the flow go into a single channel that it's already kinda sorta flowing to.
the spider web visual i originally had in mind wouldn't really be useful, as it wouldn't be much of a web. dupe chains aren't that common
 
@KarlKnechtel The floor is 3, the ceiling is 10. For every 10 score the question has above 10, the threshold is raised by one additional delete vote needed. IIRC, anyway
so a 10 score question requires 3 votes. A 20 score question requires 4, and so on, up to the ceiling of 10 delete votes
 
Is it documented somewhere?
 
Probably
but I don't know where
if you ask in SOCVR I bet Jeanne or some mod will find it quickly
 
10:11 PM
> Popular questions require more deletion votes to be deleted, at a ratio of 20:1 - a question's popularity is defined as: question score + top-scored answer score. For example, a question with (question score 15 + top answer score 5 = 20) will require 4 deletion votes (3 base votes + 1 popularity vote).
 
awesome, thanks
 
hmm
it says the same applies to undelete votes
does that mean it'd take 10 undelete votes to undelete a 3k score question?
or is it -3k score
 
It seems that something there is broken if it's also meant to apply to undelete votes.
Or maybe the undelete button is just less helpful than the delete button.
When there's a pending delete vote on the post it will say "N more votes are needed to delete this post" but it doesn't appear to be the case with undelete votes. Also maybe because I'm a mod, but I doubt that since I still see the requires N more votes even though that number is always 1 for me.
 
10:32 PM
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Q: Should answers that only comment on other answers be deleted?

ad absurdumI flagged this answer for moderator attention suggesting deletion, and a moderator declined my flag. The answer states that it is updating the accepted answer "with a key clarification," but does not provide any new content. The answer does not make an effort to answer the OP question, but merely...

 
10:59 PM
@KarlKnechtel I meant that it also makes it hard for would-be close voters to find out that a duplicate exists.
 
11:33 PM
@KevinB agreed with this; partly I wish question merges were a bit less scary (one of the few mod actions we can't easily undo) so we could do more of them more confidently
 
I wish question merges were a bit more available. I understand why they are mod-only right now. But also I think the community should be granted more powers. We can del-vote content but not all content, for example. An answer at +3 / 0 is extremely hard to delete. One at +10 / 0 is basically untouchable. The community can't even clean up one question which wasn't merged. Yet it should be able to clean up after a merge as well.
And maybe initiate merges in some way. Even if it means that enough votes would escalate the request to a mod.
 

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