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5:16 AM
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Q: Banned. No Reason. Good Rep, last two questions were upvoted

Triangle4I don't care about writing a good question anymore. So if this fails to meet the standard, delete it. I have been completely, and implicitly respectful, followed every rule until now. Today I discover after trying to post a question related to my company, I have been banned from asking questions....

 
> I asked well rounded questions that persons with lower IQ's don't seem to grasp.
> I will tweet to my followers tomorrow about this unless someone, somewhere tells me that things are going to change.
Oh please, not the Twitter again!
 
Yeah, IDK why they're q-banned now of all times
was a question getting one upvote somehow not enough to show a positive track record?
I actually feel bad here. I'd unban them if I could, it's silly that a user who asked a positively scored question got re-question-banned.
That said, what they're saying about their most recent questions is just...false. I think they're looking at all posts, including answers.
 
5:43 AM
Agreed it's weird. Last (visible) downvote was from January. And if you say there haven't been any recent ones, then it's strange. It might be that the Q-ban algorithm gets revised every now and then to keep it from being known. Maybe it changed and the user was right at the threshold before now it went over.
 
Yeah, I would be able to see anything more recent. The last DV they got was Jan 26.
 
So, same thing I see, then.
 
Not quite, you see Jan 23.
 
The ban is always taking the overall track record, not only the recent posts. So if they posted a new question that got upvoted, then deleted the older one that was bad, it might trip the ban again.
 
@AndrewT. Good point. Just checked, though, and they didn't do that either.
The post was deleted Jan 26 and they haven't deleted anything else since.
 
6:00 AM
@NewPosts nothing gets you up to speed with your day after a bar night as a rant on Meta
am I the only one seeing the irony of a triangle asking "well-rounded" questions?
 
You can always draw a circle around a triangle. Or inside it. So, it tracks.
 
I feel some entitlement from the OP, and I decided to leave at that moment...
(some older comments on their downvoted question)
 
I decided to leave it at "It puts the unban on its skin or it gets the Twitter again"
However, OP did seem receptive to feedback
 
well, if you call "thanks for your input, I am going home" receptive, yes
 
@VLAZ I like to think I'm a calming influence :-)
@OlegValteriswithUkraine better than a lot of people coming in that angry!
I'll take it, honestly. We had a real discussion. Insults weren't slung.
 
6:06 AM
@RyanM true, I suppose :)
 
> It is very easy, for a smart person to deduce that this question is about Winforms and WPF. I am on a website for developers, by developers. I am not the only smart person on here. We are developers. We spend 50% of our time figuring out what our boss is actually asking for. But that is what is wrong with SOF. Rather than just offer help, most would rather offer criticism on the way help was asked for. Even the mods. [...]
(^ one comment on the main site though)
 
@AndrewT. I see we have a standard help desk case here
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I do. Compared to the usual of "I'm right regardless". Also OP admitted to being too angry when writing the question and edited it. Maybe they could have been even better, however, like Ryan I would understand the frustration. They weren't Q banned before and are now with no apparent negative contributions in between.
 
6:21 AM
oh, I can understand their frustration, just not sure they took the right lesson from this
 
Sometimes, I wish mods could lift question bans. Most of the time, I'm glad we can't.
 
my pet peeve is hiding the algorithm from public - I do not believe its disclosure will lead to harm
 
Well, technically, if you go and upvote all the previous questions, that can lift the ban, right?
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Lots of people will point out where and how it is unfair. Of those, a very small portion would be right but drowned out by the huge amount of baseless complaints.
 
I did upvote one! For science, and 'cause it was fine. They're still q-banned.
 
@RyanM no, no, you are supposed to upvote all of them :)
 
6:27 AM
Ah, my mistake.
 
@VLAZ I mean, who cares? it's not like SE is particularly complaint-averse, unless done on Twitter (and those days seem to be past us, to be honest)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine honestly...yeah, I tend to agree. I think the idea was that people would stay just shy of the cutoff, but that implies some degree of control over the votes on your posts.
 
precisely
I don't see how the system can be "gamed" if disclosed
but at least we can stop commenting "well, we don't know, go do... something"
 
other than voting fraud, and, spoiler: not knowing where the threshold is definitely ain't stopping that.
I'd upvote a request to disclose it.
 
and if someone is going to to resort to voting fraud they'll resort to it regardless of whether they know the threshold or not
 
6:32 AM
although I'd love to meet the fraudster who's like "well I don't know how much fraud I'm gonna need to do so I won't do any" rather than "well I don't know how much fraud I'm gonna need to do so better do some extra just in case."
 
@RyanM I think it's been asked for several times. Can dig up on MSE at least a couple
~2 that - precisely why I hate "security by obscurity" (and this is certainly a case of)
 
security by obscurity isn't inherently bad...where it makes sense.
e.g., voting fraud detection and reversal.
but...this is not one of those situations.
 
@RyanM yeah, I mean, where it makes sense, it is not "security by obscurity", it's a reasonable precaution
 
I just know that we'd be getting would-be analysers coming up with a bunch of non-flaws.
 
that's ok, isn't it what Meta mostly consists of? :)
and, honestly, I will take 50 non-flaws over 1 "-I am banned, why and what do I do? -We don't know. -Go do something, maybe it will help. Maybe it won't. Maybe it will take a day. Maybe years. Good day"
 
6:38 AM
I've played games with RNG in them and have seen players with apparently no grasp on any of it crawling out of the woodwork to complaint about unfairness. There was one game which used a d20 to determine random results. One person did a half-decent statistical analysis by collecting a lot of the results and then checking the frequency. And came up with a bonkers conclusion that it's unfair because 5% of their rolls were a 1.
Well, not exactly 5% but close enough. It was something like 4.98% - very slightly under the average for 1/20.
 
why did that allegedly make it unfair?
 
It was too high. I'm not sure what they expected the percentage of 1s to be.
 
obviously the rolls should have been normally distributed. /s
 
Well, there are always those will complain that something is unfair. And you know what we do woth constants :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine inline them?
 
6:46 AM
@RyanM I suppose that works too
Anyways, my point is - even if there will be complaints, who cares? They complain either way, just implicitly ("why am I banned?")
I am a big fan of well-defined and known rules as opposed to ad hoc governance, unwritten rules, and secret algorithms. The "good citizen" principle, basically. One should always know that if they act such and such, they will be ok, not "maybe", "possibly", "depends".
 
7:04 AM
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Q: When does one start to hit the 200 cap almost daily?

EnlicoWith a (now deleted) previous question I discovered that there's people hitting the 200 rep/day almost everyday, or at least more often than not. Is there a statistic as to what is the reputation after which such a trend sets off? (To be more precise, I mean a statistic of the average reputation ...

 
@NewPosts I'll let you know if I ever get there.
 
 
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2:17 PM
"This will avoid collusion; prejudice; persons banning others because the disagree with their standpoint" - doesn't the fact that the ban you've received is an automatic one already achieve that? — Jon Skeet 3 hours ago
^ I love (unironically) how Jon drops by those posts from time to time and goes on their merry way :)
 
 
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3:40 PM
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Q: Android - How to find out that user purchased the item in In-app Purchase already?

swaminathan_manickamI am developing an app which is having in-app purchase feature. I want to give trial period for 3 days then ask user to purchase it. If purchase is done they are able to access the app other i need to show the dialog and ask them to buy it. how can i find out that the user is purchased the item a...

 
 
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6:34 PM
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Q: Inconsistent behavior for "Unfollow" and "Too Many Pending Edits" popup modals

MFergusonIf you click the follow button when viewing a question, and then click the same button which now says "Following" to unfollow the question, a popup modal appears like so: If you hover the mouse over this popup window, it maintains the cursor as the default mouse icon: When hovering the mouse ov...

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Q: Missing hyphen in footnote of "Top Users" page for tags

MFergusonIf you click the Tags button from the homepage, select any tag, and then click the "Top Users" page, you will see the following page: If you scroll to the bottom you can see a footnote stipulating that non-community-wiki answers/questions are not included: According to proper grammar/punctuatio...

 
 
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7:40 PM
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Q: How am I supposed to improve my questions? Why am I banned from asking questions?

The Amateur Coder You have reached your question limit Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions from this account. See the Help Center to learn more. I haven't deleted questions that would be useful for future readers or ones which have been answered. I went through my list of questions but couldn't find a qu...

 
8:04 PM
@NewPosts another quitter today?
 
8:23 PM
Hmmm, apparently New Posts doesn't include migrated questions.
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Q: @stackoverflow i'm sorry, Please tell me what I commented wrong

Quý Phanenter image description here I received questions from other users, what is wrong, why did this moderator delete my comment, not giving me the right to ask?

 
@RyanM reading the Tour should be made mandatory...
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine seriously... "delete my comment" wasn't a comment. "not giving me the right to ask" wasn't a question.
 
nice... a rickroll comment on the meta
 
@AndrewT. classy...gone.
 
8:40 PM
Is something going on?
 
@E_net4 Usually!
You may need to be more specific if you'd like a more useful answer ;-)
 
@RyanM I got my first ever interaction today after I starting ARC'ing NAAs that I flag. The usual - I am not allowed to post comments so I posted a non-answer, you are all toxic gatekeepers.
 
 
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10:16 PM
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Q: Downvoting answers during review queue should not subtract 1-reputation from your reputation score

MFergusonWhile you are reviewing First answers, Late answers, are Low qualilty answers you are performing a civic duty. In essence, it is your duty to downvote answers that are not high quality enough as well as selecting the appropriate review action. In comparison, when you are simply browsing the front...

 
@RyanM I don't know if you wanted to revisit your decision to delete this answer and this question now that revisionless edits have been added to new user restrictions
 
@HenryEcker Part of me wants to watch the spammers fall face-first onto it before announcing it, but that'll probably happen anyway. Undeleted the question, at least.
 
@RyanM Works for me. I just wanted to bring it up in case it had slipped off your radar. :-)
 
@HenryEcker Yeah, it had. Thanks. Undeleted the answer, too.
 
10:43 PM
Just FYI, users with less than 10 reputation no longer have an editing grace period.
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11:32 PM
@AndrewT. all right, we are one step closer to stopping sneaky edits: all that's left is to remove grace period entirely
 

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