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12:11 AM
@Zoeisonstrike wait, was that really only a few weeks ago? not some previous year? chat was that insecure for how long?
 
@KarlKnechtel few weeks ago, yes
 
 
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1:36 AM
@KarlKnechtel Yep, and it still is. Maybe not with the four million As, but somewhere in plain sight, there's almost certainly more than enough bugs capable of bringing down chat again - and that's the best-case scenario
There's probably XSS attacks somewhere too
Images also still remain an attack vector thanks to the lack of image proxying (but now that they're self-hosting an image server, maybe we get an image proxy)
 
2:00 AM
this is fine, indeed.
 
fine?
@KarlKnechtel do you consider the existence of bugs to be a good thing?
 
2:34 AM
@Marco via knowyourmeme.com/memes/this-is-fine (emphasis added, and also note that this is the image Zoe linked above):
> This Is Fine is a two-pane image of an anthropomorphic dog trying to assure himself that everything is fine, despite sitting in a room that is engulfed in flames. Taken from an issue of the webcomic series Gunshow illustrated by K.C. Green and published in early January 2013, the cartoon is typically used as a reaction image to convey a sense of self-denial or acceptance in the face of a hopeless situation.
 
 
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4:00 AM
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Q: How to stop a hacker from blocking specific websites I try to visit (I am using vpn the hacker can still block)

FrostMy neighbor is hacking my pc and I am using a vpn and is watching as I type on my pc. The vpn is active and he can still block specific websites on my laptop, but it works in other devices. My family just recently change wifi password to a better one. I checked wifi logs ang it seems no one has ...

 
 
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5:16 AM
@NewPosts "Hacking"
 
 
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7:34 AM
@KarlKnechtel I mean- availability is important... but I don't think chat uptime is mission-critical. there's charcoal things, but I don't think that's mission critical either.
 
@user Yet, ironically, chat has had more uptime than the sites. Occasionally one site, or server, or the entire network would be unreachable but chat would still be available.
 
@VLAZ yep. this I know.
 
8:06 AM
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Q: Should I re-flag a declined "not an answer" flag with a link to the answer?

AndréI flagged the following answer as "not an answer" because the actual answer is in the link inside the answer. This flag was declined, should I re-flag it? Answer: I found this which is a very small snippet that uses the WebUSB API and lets you print some text with a USB-attached printer, so I gu...

 
 
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9:26 AM
Bro how is the banning of Chat GPT and other LLMs "Temporary"?
 
9:42 AM
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Q: Question Preview does not match how the question looks on site when asked

Karan ShishooThis is with regards to this specific question On site it looks like this - But in the edit preview it looks like this - There is a distinct mismatch between what is shown as a preview and what is shown on site which seems to be connected to how tables are rendered.

 
@drEinstein Only until they are reliable.
 
 
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1:06 PM
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Q: Review our technology options for the 2024 Developer Survey

Erin AsksThe time has come to ask you to vet our latest suggestions for the top technologies and tools we plan to include on the next annual Developer Survey. You can find the options we used last year on our survey site, and below you will find the additions and removals from the various sections we have...

 
> Remove: SAS, Raku, APL, Flow
I don't think we ever found out what Flow was. Turns out...it's a language?
 
though there's also Flowcode and Flowtype, so no idea
 
I've asked at least once what Flow was. And last year it was listed as a developer tool: Review our technical responses for the 2023 Developer Survey
 
maybe it's a trap option
 
@drEinstein I provided an explanation of why the title of "Temporary policy: Generative AI (e.g., ChatGPT) is banned" originally said "temporary" here. I commented on why it currently says "temporary" here.
 
1:28 PM
@aynber An old cartographer trick is to include a non-existing street or other geographical feature. Then you know if somebody copied your map, if they also include it. Maybe it was SE's equivalent to protect against somebody copying their survey.
 
@VLAZ Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Or they just toss out all the surveys that selected that option
bot protection
 
@NewPosts That's just such an awkward format
 
@RyanM Ok, thanks for explaining, I didn't understand the sarcasm.
 
@Zoeisonstrike I'd like to edit in the list from last year. But don't have the time right now.
 
@VLAZ I would've done it, but I just don't want to :P
 
1:39 PM
On another note, previous years these were posted and open for a week to collect feedback. Now it's three days.
 
 
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4:12 PM
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Q: When flagging a discussion on Discussion [Labs] as spam, I get Page Not Found

WicketI have been visiting Discussion [Labs] several times in the last few days, mostly to view the newest discussions. When I found spam, I flagged it as spam. So far, so good; however, I assume that I have been lucky to make the flag that deletes the post. I have been redirected to the Page Not Found...

 
@NewPosts That's always been standard behaviour.
 
5:12 PM
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Q: Two questions with a lot of shared text are autoclosed as duplicates

FooBarI had a question about a specific code that contained two sub questions. It was suggested to me in the comments that it would be neater if there was a separate post (question) for each question. I did that, and now one of the questions got auto closed as a duplicate of the other. I tried to reope...

 
6:06 PM
would be nice if we did have that feature
 
6:27 PM
It'd be pretty tricky to get right
There are quite a few cases I've run across over the years where questions are largely similar but there are some details that differ and the result is two completely separate questions with separate answers
but easily 95% or more of the text is or could be identical
 
Even requiring a 100% match (when ignoring newline differences) would be enough to prevent people from reposting closed questions, which is the main use-case for reposting in the first place
 
except where they accidentally (?) copy the text of the close banner :-)
Seen that once or twice
 
Wouldn't be too hard to filter that out
 
6:58 PM
Boson's socket connection finally experienced a recorded quiet death. It's interesting that they all occurred at the same time
I assumed it was just something being flaky, but this looks more consistent with chat briefly fully dying without disconnecting sockets, and failing to reconnect to them afterwards
or more like a proxy failure or something, where the socket stays alive, but the data source doesn't and neither side recognises that the socket is dead?
 
 
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10:12 PM
@Zoeisonstrike @Makyen has dealt with some weird issues with SE websockets dying in ways that they probably shouldn't, and may have relevant input
 
@RyanM I've mostly narrowed down the problem behaviour and in theory mitigated it, I just have no clue why it happens
 
10:27 PM
I'm probably also missing a bunch of problems, but as long as it crashes the program or closes the socket, it's effectively mitigated (auto-reopening when closed unexpectedly + auto-restarting on crash via a systemd service, though the latter is a bot feature and not a library feature)
 

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