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12:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ollie
Thanks for the userscript, Spectric (again). 100 reputation says there'll soon be LegacyActive, LegacyUsers, and LegacySE... — Ollie 50 secs ago
 
 
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1:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mukyuu
True, because OP opt to directly moderator flag, which is supposed to be last resort. — Mukyuu 1 min ago
 
 
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2:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
It still should have been "Maybe the best way" or "Maybe there is a better way" as someone has since changed it to. — BSMP 37 secs ago
 
 
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3:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Akshay Sehgal
Thanks for this, will check them out! — Akshay Sehgal 5 secs ago
 
3:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@JörgWMittag It is bad. Programming is much more than the lexical knowledge of various languages and frameworks. Entirely missing this topic on cloudy reasons is surely a very bad practice, imho. — peterh 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@MegaIng for the time being. They've disabled it and re-enabled colouring while they investigate a bug and other options. — Nick 29 secs ago
 
 
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5:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pixelbyaj
Just to save few penny don't dissolve such loved feature. You can see how much community is loving it. — pixelbyaj 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Welcome to meta, the place to discuss the policy of this site. We don't know how or why you posted this question here, but unfortunately, your meta question is unclear. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
 
6:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
@cigien: “This happens very rarely though, in my experience.” To me, this is part of why I’d like to see a feature like this. I want an opportunity to recognize the few contributors—and especially new contributors—who are responsive to feedback, without having to follow every post I flag as NAA. Personally, I’d even like to see something similar for e.g., posts I’ve voted to delete. If new contributors make a significant effort to improve their post, I like to reward them with an upvote in order to incentivize that level of attention in the future. — Jeremy Caney 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
@cigien: Do you differentiate between confirmed bugs and bug reports? Personally, I usually consider them NAA if it’s “There’s a big report [link]” but valid if it’s “This is a known bug [link]”. The former doesn’t really confirm anything outside of the fact that someone else had the same problem and believes it is a bug. The latter is a claim backed up by an authoritative citation. — Jeremy Caney 1 min ago
 
6:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
Aside, I want to reinforce just how unusual it’s been to see First Answers consistently exceeding 400 over the last few days. I’m not certain if that’s because of an increase in answers, a decrease in reviewers, or perhaps an indirect effect of the First Questions rules being adjusted (e.g., reviewers focusing limited attention on 60 First questions instead of 40 first answers). Regardless, it’s unprecedented in the (admittedly short) history of the queue. — Jeremy Caney 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
 
7:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Nowadays, SE.Inc will do nothing. They don't pursue these matters any more. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by animuson
@VLAZ We never actually pursued them. We tracked them out of interest for a while, and reported those that outranked us to Google before they shut down that form. And long, long ago we occasionally sent vaguely worded requests that never received replies. But the fact that there isn't anything we can legally do has never changed. — animuson ♦ 1 min ago
 
7:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
The advice used to be to report sites that violate the license to SE. I was not aware there has been basically no action for my reports. — VLAZ 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
If you accept an answer, that prevents it from the automatic deletion due to low scores. It does not prevent the deletion by moderator/review votes. — peterh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Fabian Pijcke
Thank you for the links, I followed the advice at the bottom of meta.stackexchange.com/a/200178 and sent a violation report to GoogleAds. — Fabian Pijcke 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
Another trick: if your question is threatened by the "too broad" closure reason, then create an example and ask only from the example. So it won't be too broad any more. The "off-topic" closure reason can be avoided by asking it on the correct site, or breaking the question into multiple topics and asking it all on different sites. The "unclear" closure reason can be handled by listening the comments and doing what they suggest, even if they don't look very useful. — peterh 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@Gimby Some "SO unofficial" repository could be created by userscripts and css files... I can not remember a UI change since 2014 for which I had said, it was well done. — peterh 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@HereticMonkey Another option would be to develop the site UI on a way, that the consecutive UIs are always better, than the previous ones. — peterh 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
A user doesn't "translate" their question. They just write it in English. Why should they translate their code, though? — Cerbrus 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
It has begun a long time ago (see changes to profile, etc.) but the (legacy) mobile design is still accessible. What you're seeing here is just the recent changes to the responsive design of questions lists. See: New post summary designs on site home pages and greatest hits now; everywhere else eventually. It's awful but the first iteration of this was even worse. Just scan the recent posts on MSO and MSE and you'll see a lot of negative feedback about it. — 41686d6564 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MMMahdy-PAPION
@Makyen Thanks, I think it would be better if that auto-generated be mentioned on the comment. — MMMahdy-PAPION 28 secs ago
 
8:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
"that are clearly from another language" I would guess that most people on Stack Overflow are not native English speakers. On account that most people are not native English speakers. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
 
8:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I find it more often they'd miss out the first line. Most likely because they copy/paste from a file where everything is already indented but don't copy the leading whitespace from the first line of code. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
As for the image...it's just the default text when you add an image. The text is prompting you to add your own description. Which the user hasn't done. — VLAZ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ricky Mo
@VLAZ but the editor automatically embed the image when I click "Add Picture". I have to manually delete the leading [! and trailing ][1] around it to make it display like this. How come new users all do this so consistently. — Ricky Mo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
The embedding is not enabled for new accounts to mitigate possible spam and abuse. — VLAZ 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ricky Mo
@VLAZ I see. Thank you for answer. — Ricky Mo 16 secs ago
 
8:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
FWIW, even though most of these can be explained easily, that doesn't mean there isn't a design flaw that can – perhaps – be fixed. — MisterMiyagi 32 secs ago
 
9:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@MisterMiyagi perhaps the new post WYSIWYG editor. I'm not sure what else would help, given that evidently users either don't look at the preview or don't bother to fix it. — VLAZ 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
I think the code appearance issue comes from them copying some code that isn't indented enough, pasting, submitting, seeing that the first line is non-monospace because it isn't indented enough (but all other lines except the last are) and editing to make the first line appear correct but forgetting the last line. To truly know though, why not ask the next person you see doing it? — Caius Jard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@VLAZ I don't have a solution either, and I totally agree that ultimately the issue is that people just don't care. I'm just hoping that someone who is in a less grumpy mood than me isn't put off from answering because there's an impression that "it's obvious and won't matter" or such. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
I think more of the help given for code formatting should be changed to instruct users to use the triple backtick. That would be harder to mess up than the indent. — BSMP 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ricky Mo
@BSMP Good point. Why don't Ctrl+K add triple backticks instead of indent? I remember when I wrote my first post, I found Ctrl+K quite confusing to use and I didn't know triple backticks was a thing because Ctrl+K lead me straight to indentation. — Ricky Mo 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@RickyMo I think it does the indentation because....it was never changed. The triple backtick is a more recent addition, indentation for code was in place since much longer. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
There is a FR to change the default: Change the code block button from inserting indentation to triple-backticks. No response to that but there is a link to here where it says they won't change it basically because they are working on a new editor. — VLAZ 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ricky Mo
I see. I was suspecting my memory of not knowing the triple backticks. Turns out that my memory was correct, it didn't exists back then. — Ricky Mo 45 secs ago
 
10:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Marijn I feel like "it's a bug" is a useful answer in many cases. To strip it down to the essentials a Q is saying "I'm trying to do X and it doesn't work" and the answer is "No, X does not work". Due to a bug, sure, but that's still useful to know, rather than chasing a non-existent solution. — VLAZ 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
This was very recently changed and with a good reason. The author accepting an answer shouldn't really hold that much weight. Question askers can and have accepted very bad answers giving them leverage over actually useful answer. Were "usefulness" is determined by voting. — VLAZ 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
To summarize those links: Votes are a more reliable indication of good answers than the "accept" mark. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"Promote answer that has been marked as the solution" - there is no such thing on this site. — Gimby 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tim Kruger
@VLAZ yes it does, however if votes are a more reliable indication as Cerbrus has mentioned, why not show the answer with the most number of votes at the top of the list? I haven't read through the links you've included yet, so if those links already answer my question asked above please ignore it. — Tim Kruger 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@TimKruger "why not show the answer with the most number of votes at the top of the list?" because you've not sorted by votes? Why are the answers out of order now?VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
You can select answer ordering by "Active", "Oldest" and "Votes". The latter will "show the answer with the most number of votes at the top of the list". — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tim Kruger
@MisterMiyagi Ok cool thanks very much for this, although that's another additional step, although I guess it wouldn't be too much of a train smash to do this ;-). — Tim Kruger 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Afaik, votes are the default sort, now — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tim Kruger
Great thanks very much for all the responses guys & for all the useful links. — Tim Kruger 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
Repro'ed. Actually, no need to even reload the page. — 41686d6564 just now
 
10:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
It hints that there's a way to see the number of reviews that any user has done in any review queue (not just those in the leaderboards). There's another Meta post somewhere that explains in more detail. — Wai Ha Lee 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
"The other thing I noted is that all of the answers in the new dupe target are Community Wiki" ... this happens, as far as I remember, automatically when a question has a lot of answers already. When you check some of the answers, when you should see, that it was marked as "Community Wiki" by the "Community" Bot, not the author themself. — Tom 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
It hints that there's a way to see the number of reviews that any user has done in any review queue (not just those in the leaderboards). This Meta Stack Exchange post gives more details. — Wai Ha Lee 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
There is a change list for these sites. I don't know if this change is included or not. — Peter Mortensen 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
Normal text can be google-translated into probably understandable but clunky English. If you try and google-translate code, you will probably get nonsense with more errors than it started with. — khelwood 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The canonical (with the most information) is on Über meta: What is syntax highlighting and how does it work?Peter Mortensen 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
I'm afraid you've posted this in the wrong place. This is Meta, for questions about Stack Overflow itself. Having said that, I don't believe this question would be on-topic on the main Stack Overflow site either. — F1Krazy 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Tom: No, that was changed in 2014 - "We have disabled all forms of community wiki automatic conversions, not just for answers but for questions as well."Peter Mortensen 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@PeterMortensen I was changed before I created my account here and yet I still thought this was still in place ... interesting, but good to know. Thanks. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pulkit Chaudhri
This is a depressing article to read :( Hmmph! — Pulkit Chaudhri 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Keywords in other languages than English? AppleScript? — Peter Mortensen 54 secs ago
 
11:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@VLAZ: That was a surprise for most us, I think. See for instance this post from December 2021. — Peter Mortensen 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RockPaperLz- Mask it or Casket
Love the vanity slug! Love it! :) — RockPaperLz- Mask it or Casket just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
"that people copy/paste their code as-is and not have a reason to touch it" I feel this conflicts somewhat with the goal of an [MRE]. We generally don't want the user's code, we want some code that reproduces the user's problem. Unless it's a very obscure Heisenbug, translating code is well part of creating an MRE. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"If we don't have anything more useful for it and we decide to remove it for better performance for the site? Is it worth it?" does performance right now suffer because this information is included? Page doesn't seem to load any slower for me, compared with other pages. — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
12:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by justANewbie
The user accepted this and tried to add the code to the question. But just before he was able to click on the save button...This nice guys closed the question: user1934428, tripleee, Luca Kiebel. OP can submit to reopen, don't you know that? — justANewbie 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mast
@Braiam That feature-request is being professionally ignored. — Mast 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bill Tür
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nikolai Shevchenko
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
We can one-shot newbies and piss off naive experienced members with the existing privileges we currently have. Don't see a need to add anything new. — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
The community, in general, doesn't really care about users; we care about the content. Stack Overflow is not a personal help desk. We don't pay much attention to whether the question was asked by a newbie or not. All we care about is whether the question is useful. — Dharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Just because a question can be answered with few lines of code doesn't mean that it's on-topic or a useful question. — Dharman 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
1. "user was treated as a child" That is an exaggeration for what was merely a request for details to improve the question. 2&3. Yes, we should not wait for edits to happen before closing the question. 4. If that was the reaction, then I suspect that this user was not as nice as you claim to be. — E_net4 the curator 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Adding a new privilege "Destroy Newbie" is not needed because Stack Overflow is all about the content, not users. It really doesn't matter how the author feels about their question getting closed. Asking questions is not an easy task and nobody is forcing them to do it. If they want to contribute to this site, I am sure they can read the help section and put more effort into their submission. If they can't improve the question anymore, they are free to give up, and maybe try with a different topic. — Dharman 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by justANewbie
Also, for the sake of it, I try to google "remove number in filename regex bash" and got 4 top result. Now, I'm not familiar with Bash, so you can decide. — justANewbie 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
And please don't make it look like it's some kind of tyranny that we require useful questions. It's clearly stated in the tour that we are trying to build a repository of useful questions and answers. "With your help, we're working together to build a library of detailed, high-quality answers to every question about programming." — Dharman 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
You can already ask and answer questions without reputation. Might be worth assessing why you want to accumulate a lot of reputation quickly. — E_net4 the curator 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
What do you need reputation for? — Dharman 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
@peterh Well, I think that's the goal of this most recent change, eventually. But many people don't like when things change, irrespective of the change. So they ask for the old UI back. One person's "better" is another person's "worse". — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by justANewbie
@Dharman what? you're telling me that internet points are not important? — justANewbie 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
whys didn't you post the question so that we can look at it, and why didn't you mod flad the question and explained what you mean — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
Happy to post it if you think it's warranted; I tend to prefer to avoid initial name and shame and I come to meta to ask if something should be loaded onto the mod team - they've got enough to do without me flagging stuff that isn't a concern — Caius Jard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mast
There is no flag to bring it to the attention of gold badge holders. What do you suggest as an alternative? — Mast 19 secs ago
 
1:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rob74
@BenjaminW.: yeah, because "golang" is more search-engine friendly than "Go" (ironic if you think that it was invented at Google). Also "golang.org" was the original website - but "Go" is still the official name, and actually the Go team seems to dislike "golang" so much that they changed the website to "go.dev" recently (of course that probably wasn't the main reason for the change, but I think it contributed to the decision). — rob74 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew
@WalterMonecke I hadn't paid enough attention to that, but now a lot of things make sense - they're tearing down what made SE great, wrecking the user interface, chopping off used parts of it and trying to 'streamline' into something that will probably end up seeing their usership drop then wonder why everyone left... — Andrew 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
Thanks @JeremyCaney for the edit, the message of the edit (<3) and I think it's because there is less reviewers than before (less at 40, and for example Ouflak & ZygD don't make them each days now) — Elikill58 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
It's about the regex tag, isn't it? — MisterMiyagi 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tyler Selden
@HereticMonkey Hence the option to revert back to the old UI. — Tyler Selden 57 secs ago
 
1:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stephen C
Can't we just get Joel to declare that regexes are not programming and make this all go away? :-) — Stephen C 16 secs ago
 
2:09 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cyan-kinesin
It is to be Users > Settings > Preferences > Theme on 2022. And unfortunately, still you can only set dark theme on stackoverflow site. — cyan-kinesin 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Edwin Buck
@BSMP Well, in code, just as in life, there's hardly enough information to definitively say that one way is the best way; but, some developers speak in absolutes to the point that for them, perhaps, they'll say "the best way". I just didn't want to open that can of worms :) — Edwin Buck 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
Welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then repost on the proper site. Be sure to check the How do I ask a good question and What is on topic pages on the target site to ensure your question is a good fit before reposting. Your question is definitely off-topic on [meta] and is better deleted here. — Henry Ecker 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
@MisterMiyagi if that's a query to me; no - the question looked like an FSM parser one ("splitting ignoring delimiters inside quotes"), was closed as duplicate of 3 other FSM ones (that had some regex approaches) with a pointer from me to look at a particular answer in one dupe. Someone reopened the question. A GBH posted a "use command line parser lib X" answer and then closed the question as a dupe of a "how do i parse a command line" with many CW answers about parsing comamnd line, but none seemed to be about lib X — Caius Jard 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Imho, either you answer a question or you close a question. Doing both is abusive. — BDL 37 secs ago
 
2:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
I’d be nice if this also extended to the markdown available in custom flags. I find a similar issue when trying to link several questions/answers in a single flag and end up doing a lot of [1](/q/1234567). Also a meta option might be nice (similar to the tag magic links) [meta-question:1234567]. — Henry Ecker 1 min ago
 
2:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
I've seen this requested on MSE several times, usually it's that links shouldn't count towards the character limit of the comment. — bad_coder 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
@JeremyCaney Yeah, it's definitely preferable if the bug report is confirmed, but even if the answer links to an existing bug report, I don't feel it's NAA. At least, I don't personally flag those answers as NAA, but some mods might accept such a flag if raised, and delete the answer anyway. — cigien 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Yeah it seems like it just isn't something you can keep up. You either have an expensive legal department full of bloodhounds or you probably just want to look the other way. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
You probably did not succeed. Only a very small subset of people who use the site post or even look on meta. Sorry. But eh no, it is a very, very bad idea to link payment to charity / volunteer work. You destroy the whole concept of it that way. — Gimby just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
Please don't repost your closed Stack Overflow questions here on Meta, as they will not be answered here. Instead, please edit your original post to address the feedback you were given in the comments and close reason. — F1Krazy 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Not a bad idea actually, it is a decent compromise to having it take up too much space in a comment versus needing to implement comment parsing tricks to do specific length calculations. It opens the gate to a person putting dozens of links in a comment... but that doesn't seem like a realistic event. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pablo H
I don't understand the decision. I expected Jobs charges companies for each post. Isn't that a way to make money. Why drop a feature that makes money. I'd understand if they drop maintenance, but why drop the feature? — Pablo H 1 min ago
 
3:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Why use the full URL when you can also use https://stackoverflow.com/q/24319662 instead? The "share" function under each post generates that for you. — Tom 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Benjamin W.
There's even an FAQ about it. — Benjamin W. 5 secs ago
 
3:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davis Broda
If you want to thank the people who helped you, upvoting/accepting answers is the usual way of doing so. If that feels insufficient, you could create a bounty to award an existing answer with even more reputation. — Davis Broda 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
You can put all sorts of things into long links sagecell.sagemath.org/…PM 2Ring 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
Hi apatrck01, welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — 41686d6564 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@Tom very true, and very convenient. I would certainly upvote that suggestion as an answer to this meta post. But the purpose of this request is basically to minimise the amount of characters a url "steals" from the total allowed and the proposed method goes one step beyond. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Boann
Omg the hideous yellow things are back AGAIN. — Boann 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@MisterMiyagi agree to disagree on that one. I have seen too many instances where the poster mucks it up where if they had literally copy-pasted what they had, it would have been just fine. In a perfect world what you say is true, but in our world people are sloppy as can be. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@HereticMonkey Yes, this is the very good excuse of the responsible SO employee to sell their crap. And their bosses, not knowing the site neither the UX, believe that. But we know. This is why you can not sell the same s..t to me. — peterh 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mike Fahy
Which survey results indicated that developers want fewer opportunities and more HR branding channels? — Mike Fahy just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by isherwood
To me the comment character limit is less of a concern than having to manually copy/paste both URL and title. That's a needless chore. — isherwood 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Matt
The script was working nicely until an hour or two ago when it suddenly got weird for me. Now it looks like a hybrid of the old design and new design where the metrics appear in a grid like the old design but with the numbers next to the text like the new design. Could just be my browser? — Matt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by leppie
Looks like it has been fixed :D — leppie 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by leppie
Just noticed, thanks! — leppie 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by psubsee2003
Almost positive I answered something like this a long while ago - need to find it. But in summary, it is just how the dialogs are set up. Duplicates get special attention in the Flag dialog so they get listed separately. But when you click on "Needs Improvement", the dialog you see is actually the close dialog (same thing that 3K users see when they click the "Close" button. SO obviously didn't feel it was necessary to design a special close flag dialog that removes the duplicated "duplicate" flag — psubsee2003 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
Because the current close vote reasons suck and nobody understands anything about them anymore. — Marco Bonelli 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
We are glad that you are feeling appreciative but we do it so that programmers in the future can easily find a solution to their problem online and they don't need to ask again. We don't do it for money, we do it for the betterment of our industry — Dharman 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Mast that's why I post the link every place it's relevant. So that people know that it was asked for. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by snakecharmerb
They seem to have changed it again, so now any tags under the question that are watched get the mustard treatment :-/ — snakecharmerb 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
To be honest, for me, the new UI looks great on mobile– but that's the double-edged sword. What looks good or fine on mobile does not necessarily look good on desktop. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
there's nothing special about javascript objects as compared to the other types of values that would warrant it having it's own tag. — Kevin B 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
I feel this is a valid question, but only insomuch as we can come up with some other stat that's more useful to replace it. Personally, I feel like "items left in the queue" is the most important queue stat, and that's already on the left... maybe something about how many reviews have been completed today? But I'm not sure that'd be any more useful than the reviewer avatars are currently. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Just to clarify: is a single instance of this sufficient cause to raise a flag, or does there need to be a pattern of a user doing this? — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
You can flag any instance where you see this happening. Patterns help, but we'd always reach out to a user first if we suspected there was abuse going on. The whole scenario of answer and dupehammering is uncommon enough. — Machavity ♦ 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dave Cousineau
they seem to have highlighted the tags themselves now, but it's still way too bright on dark theme — Dave Cousineau 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abpostman1
Unfortunately, it seems to have been removed from the store meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/385599/…Abpostman1 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by camille
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
Would a gold badger doing this (hypothetically) by creating a CW answer (instead of a standard one, so they don't gain any reputation benefits) and then dupe closing be meaningfully better? Or should that be considered just as much an abuse of the system? — zcoop98 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dave Cousineau
@snakecharmerb yup, there's even more bright yellow than before now. it's like highbeams on the highway, burning away at your retina even when you're not looking at it. — Dave Cousineau 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
@isherwood At least there's a userscript for that; it's not perfect (especially when you want a raw URL), but it's super handy otherwise. — zcoop98 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
I understand the desire to downvote such answers, but I strongly recommend not using downvotes to penalize user behavior. Votes should be strictly on the quality of the content. As mentioned by Machavity in their answer, you can flag these posts, and then mods will look into dealing with any problematic behavior. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bender the Greatest
I agree with @Cerbrus. The question does need to be in English per site regulations, but the code should not be changed to simply translate symbols and names. Some people have a hard enough time writing complete English to ask a question (not for lack of trying though, English as a language sucks), translating code to a language they don't know well is a refactor that might introduce other issues. We are not asked to be linguistics experts. Names in code can be translated by a reader if need be, as these are generally single words, and most programming language keywords are in English. — Bender the Greatest 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
People answer dupes to be helpful. You know, what this site is for. — Kevin Krumwiede 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@KevinKrumwiede unfortunately, that help is only near-term and often leads to future users being unable to find the post with the best answer due to there being so many duplicate answers spread across far too many questions. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
@zcoop98 there's quite a lot in that Q.. in this particular case I do think that the GB's advice posted into the duplicate should have been posted into the dupe target (it seems new) and the dupe closed. Whether the dupe target is CW or not is relatively immaterial; a GB is already edging on for the highest privs possible on the site and a few more unicorn points are neither here nor there. Posting a CW in the duplicate "so they don't earn any points" isn't much of a sway for me, because the overall aim is in pointing duplicates to good/improving targets. Orphaning the advice in the dupe.. — Caius Jard 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
..isn't really that beneficial to anywhere near as many people. — Caius Jard 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
@Kevin (both) There's a tangent here in terms of duplicate management and benefits that would probably deserve its own question, but I think there is scope all round for duplicate improvements. Canonicals with 30 answers, that are everything from one liners to navel fluff level thesis paper answers are probably eroding the usefulness of a duplicate signposting system but it doesn't mean that answering blatant dupes is OK either. If anything to be most helpful to overall site goals and benefitting people a dupe suggestion should come with a comment of which answer in the target is best suited — Caius Jard 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mcarans
Thanks for the suggestions. In the end, it seemed like the question I had in mind would not be accepted at any Stack site. I found a specific place to ask it and get an answer: github.com/pypa/setuptools/discussions/3051mcarans 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
I looked at "top questions" and I have difficulties finding out, what it actually means. There are lots of questions with score 0 and sometimes even -1. Is top questions equal to all questions minus closed/strongly negative questions? Maybe it shouldn't be called "top" then, more like "Acceptable questions". I would have expected really highly scored questions just judging from that title. — Trilarion 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
And, what do you think? Better or worse? — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by richardec
I find it better than the original yellow badges, but worse than just the original yellow background. The new badges are much more informative (I didn't get the meaning of "watched" at first), but they still really stand out and rivet way too much attention. — richardec 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
it has the same distraction problem as when it was on the left, except it no longer contributes to the height. however, now it can occur multiple times per post and jumps around horizontally from question to question, potentially making it more distracting. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by richardec
Maybe inverting the badge, i.e., outlined, would be better, attracting less attention. Kinda like they did to the Staff and Mod labels. — richardec 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Why [javascript-objects] and not [javascript] [object]? There's more of the latter (>1500) than the former (~380)... — Heretic Monkey 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Looks like Halloween on dark mode :). — Heretic Monkey 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wjandrea
If questions "don't fit the site's curation objectives", why answer them? There's a lot of nuance missing here; see MSE: How should duplicate questions be handled? under "Should I answer it?" — wjandrea 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Spectric
@Matt Thanks for the report! A fix for this bug is planned. — Spectric 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
Is closing question X as a dupe of question Y and leaving a comment saying "look at Joe X's answer in ...; it's most applicable to what you want to do, but change the comma to a hyphen" also able to be considered as "helpfully answering a question" ? Perhaps rather than an ephemeral comment doing that link, the "which answer do you think is most suited" could be an optional part of the close dialog together with any small comment, that forms part of the enduring banner — Caius Jard 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GSerg
Someone must be really fond of their yellow watch badges. The yellow badge has now moved to the tags section, where it is just as much of eyesore as it was on the left. — GSerg 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@mcarans Yeah, this is why I the github could create its own Q&A in a space dominated by the SO. Problem is that it is imho a very good question and it is a shame that there is no way to ask it in the SE network, but most of the github questions I find by google is... well... garbage. Most of the askers have a problem to create a round sentence on any language. The strength of the SO is that that pile of crap what is the github Q&A in general, is filtered here out mercilessly. Disadvantage is that such diamonds like yours, are with this filtering lost. — peterh 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Walter Monecke
@PabloH because in their minds it's probably not profitable enough or the current generated revenue doesn't justify the purchase price Prosus paid. They will try tome come up with new "features". — Walter Monecke 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
Is it possible that the fix somehow triggered this bug? — 41686d6564 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@wjandrea Read the first sentence of my answer again. Most users aren't here to help the site achieve its idiotic curation objectives. — Kevin Krumwiede just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@PoulBak I think "responsive design" has meant here that they make the whole UI again much worser as ever, in exchange they do not anything. Generally it means that the CSS is tuned to adapt to various screen widths or mobile/desktop display. — peterh 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
I meant from a grammar standpoint. — BSMP 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user673679
Since tags are all lowercase, could we get a lowercase eyeball to match? — user673679 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
If you really want to be helpful, you should participate on a site that's designed as, and intended to be, a help-desk. SO is not intended for that purpose at all. The asker of a question getting helped, is at most a side effect of the goal to build a repository of questions and answers. While your desire to be helpful to askers is admirable, it is very often actively harmful to the actual goal of the site, as in this case of answering duplicate questions. Please try to be less helpful in situations like this. There are many other ways you can actually help, if you want to do so. — cigien 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by j08691
1) Yellow background 2) Dark yellow tag 3) Eye icon. Seems like they REALLY want everyone aware of the tags they're watching. Sigh — j08691 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
@DaveCousineau Haha. Yeah, I imagined something a little more subtle. — Michael 44 secs ago
 
6:59 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
I actually prefer to know which of the tags I followed are on a post (as I follow many tags, and often forget which ones). — Ann Zen just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Does this answer your question? I hate these new yellow 'watch' labelsLarnu 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@Larnu That's actually a different question, as the highlighted parts it describes are not the tags themselves. — Ann Zen 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VoidTwo
@AnnZen I understand your point, so maybe a less-jarring approach could be taken because bright bold yellow is not appealing. And/or a toggle for tag highlights for users who don't want to see this. — VoidTwo 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
It's still the new watched sign you dislike; even if it's the "new new" watched sign, as the initial one was so poorly received. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by j08691
Courtesy of the Department of Redundancy Department — j08691 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
If the question is a duplicate, then just put your answer on the dupe target (unless there's already an equivalent answer there, in which case yours is unnecessary). Spreading out the answers across multiple questions isn't helpful. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@VoidTwo That sounds like a good idea :) — Ann Zen 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark
I don't mind calling attention to which tags are followed. However, I wish it wasn't so prominent. Those tags are the heaviest element on the page, but not remotely the most important thing to see when scanning. — Mark 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mohammad
The color is so annoying as well. — Mohammad 21 secs ago
 
7:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by QBrute
So they moved the location of the obnoxious "Watched" label to the actual watched tags. But why this eye-piercing color? Why put so much effort into marking watched tags? Is it that important to see which tags are watched? — QBrute 43 secs ago
 
7:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
As to "why the yellow" - likely because it's tradition. When you followed a post, we added a slightly yellow cast to the post background. With a brighter yellow like this, though, particularly for dark mode, it might be reasonable to question whether this is the "right" color choice. That said, I do like the tags having something special going on. We also have to be cautious because tags come in all colors network-wide... but not this color yellow. Less visible colors might end up being indistinguishable from a per-site tag color. :) Worth looking into, though. — Catija ♦ 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
The second a monetary is allowed on this network in order to receive help, is the second before I delete, every single one of my contributions (on every single SE community website). Allowing monetary transactions to get help is deal breaker for me. Stack Exchange will be worst then Quora at that point. Quora is a bottom tier trash website. — Security Hound 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
FWIW: I’ve voted to close a number of questions I’ve answered. Typically it’s because more information comes to light after, such as a follow-up comment indicating the question was ambiguous, or identifying a legitimately useful dup target. Sometimes it’s because I am left with a nagging feeling after I answer that I’ve seen a similar question before, and put additional effort into seeking it out. Other times it’s because, much later, my understanding of what’s appropriate on Stack Overflow evolves and I go back to flag old questions I previously answered (e.g., too broad, opinion-based). — Jeremy Caney 1 min ago
 
7:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
My point being that there are likely charitable explanations for why a contributor will, on occasion, answer a question and then later flag to close the same question, without intending to game the system. Ideally, they should recognize the issue before answering, but sometimes it’s not clear that an issue was overlooked until later, as we discover new information. In those cases, admitting and trying to correct the mistake is responsible behavior, not an abuse. — Jeremy Caney 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Fortunately, these cases would be handled by mods who can look at the overall picture and make an educated judgement when this occurs (potentially even merging the answers into the dupe or deleting them) — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica
Closing prevents questions from receiving any further answers, so answering and VTC really are mutually exclusive (unless you think that you're the only person who should be allowed to answer). Also, you may want to read: Should one advise on off-topic questions?EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 43 secs ago
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
Definitely a valid possibility which is worth recognizing, kinda regardless of whether this particular instance was or not. Another user made a similar point in a couple comments. — zcoop98 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica
Also, if you think that the curation standards are so "idiotic", think about what would happen if no one enforced them. On other sites, you have to wade through tons of thread hijacking, spam, and "me too!" comments just to get the one piece of information you need. Without curation, the site would be vastly less useful for everyone (including you). — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
You close questions because they aren't answerable in their current state. That makes answering and closing questions diametrically opposed to one another. Your desire to be "helpful" comes at the expense of a question that shouldn't be open remaining open well beyond its shelf life. — Makoto 42 secs ago
 
8:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
Worth noting that this has been reported on the Meta.SE thread in multiple places too, with [status-review] tags to boot. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by trincot
The watched tags shouldn't stand out that much. Just a very tiny difference is more than enough. It was fine as it was. — trincot 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@cigien The "actual goal of this site" is or should be determined by the community. And the community includes all the people who have been driven away by unrealistic, narrow-minded, neurotic curation objectives. You SO your way, I'll SO mine. — Kevin Krumwiede 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I have vastly more faith in Google's algorithms to find nuggets of value than I have in this site's moderators. Absolutely nothing should ever be closed or deleted except blatant commercial advertising spam. — Kevin Krumwiede 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@KevinKrumwiede this... "community" you speak of is free to come here to meta and start a discussion. — Kevin B 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@KevinB Apparently not. — Kevin Krumwiede 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
... just as we who are already here are free to counter/disagree with it. — Kevin B 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christian Gollhardt
Just my 2 cents: Don't change the btn color, change the text color, if it's neccessary to highlight. Anyway, the update looks much better than it was initial. — Christian Gollhardt 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Catija how about only adding the eye thingy and leaving everything else equal. — Braiam 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samathingamajig
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica
Absolutely nothing should ever be closed or deleted except blatant commercial advertising spam. So, are we just supposed to let people post whatever they want here? If I decide to post a question on Shakespeare on the main site, should the community just leave it up or tell me to post it on Lit.se instead? — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wjandrea
@Makoto Duplicate questions are answerable, but it's better for the health of the site to not answer them and close them instead. But you're right that answering then closing is bad, as EJoshuaS wrote above. — wjandrea 6 secs ago
 
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