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[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
The "watched" label means the question has a watched tag; see also the "watched tags" box on the sidebar when opening SO.com. Every question that had a yellow background in the old design now has the "watched" label. It has nothing to do with bookmarks (or follows#) and I'm unsure why you would think it has someting to do with other users. That part is IMO actually consistent. Doesn't change the fact that the redesign is garbage and should be reverted ASAP though... — l4mpi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Matthieu M.
My mistake, I thought it was a "popularity" indicator -- as in "this question is watched by many people, hot!" -- not something you'd set yourself. — Matthieu M. 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@l4mpi That's about the last thing I'd think it means. Congratulations to SO for lowering the bar on terrible UX. — Kevin Krumwiede 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "...they do little to no user feedback testing on the changes that they implement": Yes, there is every indication that they don't do any usability testing (instead relying on some statistical methods/mindset). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
If you have an actual suggestion, I'd strongly recommend posting it here. It's more likely to be seen by devs that way, not that it's going to make any difference IMO. Also, downvotes simply express disagreement with your feature-request. There's nothing toxic about the downvotes. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
Simple solution: delete all your watched tags. What good are they doing you, anyway? — Kevin Krumwiede 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Answering in the wrong language isn't a reason to flag as VLQ or NAA. It's a reason to Downvote, but not flag. VLQ is for answers that are very low quality; they consist of just a link or a statement that doesn't really address the question. The answer you've linked, though in the wrong language, does not look to be low quality in anyway; it's not useful/helpful sure, but not low quality. — Larnu 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ruffin
@THEJOATMON The worst thing for me is that I'll find a clarification related to an answer, post that info so it helps everyone (including myself), come back later when I need to find it, and poof, it's gone. It's encouraging me to make answers that are [existing answer] plus some small, comment-worthy addition. At least then I have a record. That, to be clear, is bad. Comments are useful, and if they're soft-deleted, why not let me see at least my own? (Iirc, I've come back to a comment that had over 50 upvotes once and it was gone, no changes to question to integrate it. /sigh) — ruffin 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Also, as someone with 10K plus rep, you could have downvoted, and then immediately voted to delete (assuming you placed a downvoted before the upvote that was made on it was). Answers can be voted to be deleted as soon as they have a negative score (unlike questions, that need a -3 score). — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Cross-site dupe: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/95581/…; "You should not use it to describe the following, but should be using comments, close votes, downvotes and / or edits instead: [...] * Answers that are just wrong or even actively harmful" — Zoe ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Btw, yes, VLQ and NAA flags also go to the mod's flag queue. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Larnu Why would we not delete blatantly off-topic answers? That makes absolutely no sense. If I post a detailed answer about pony riding to that question, you don't think it's low quality? Of course it is, and it should be deleted. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I didn't say it shouldn't be deleted, @Lundin . I specifically stated you should have voted to delete it in my second comment. I said you should not flag it. Voting to Delete and flagging are completely different things. — Larnu 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ayxan Haqverdili
You can also hide the watched tag with a content blocker like ublock origin. — Ayxan Haqverdili 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by borchvm
the question is, why? now my eyes go too much towards those yellow labels — borchvm 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
The answer wasn't "off topic" either. It attempted to answer the OP's question; just the OP didn't answer in the right language. It's still an answer, and would result in the solution in that language. Saying that they answered about Pony rider is utter nonsense; they didn't. — Larnu 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by borchvm
I agree, at least for the desktop version, the space was better used with the previous version — borchvm 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Larnu Yeah but what happens to it if I delete vote it? If it doesn't end up in review then that's broken and that single delete vote will just uselessly sit there. Because there are very few answers attracting enough attention to get enough random 10k+ people passing by and casting delete votes. — Lundin 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
So it takes 30 minutes to be deleted instead of 5. So what? And the OP deleted the answer once you corrected them; they did the correct thing. I don't see the problem. Your downvote and comment would have solved the issue all along. There was no need for a moderator. — Larnu 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by justANewbie
can you add a picture for <10k rep like me? — justANewbie 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JohnLBevan
@justANewbie it's an answer just saying yes i will do this job i will have experience in this job and i have very good experience also i will do this job easily i have no problem (that's the Google translate of the original Hindi) — JohnLBevan 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
I'm also a little miffed at being logged out while posting this answer and then after logging back in, still needing to fill out a Captcha. Is it really that hard to take advice? If I were a bot, it'd still be good advice. — Michael 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Larnu You can't assume that every tag out there is a high traffic tag. — Lundin 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I don't, @Lundin . — Larnu 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by j08691
"User testing was run with ~170 recently active users" Are you serious?? — j08691 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica
@justANewbie Edited. — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Probably the account was nuked and the posts associated with it went away as well. — VLAZ 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
SE logged me out while I was posting this, and then after logging in, made me allowlist Google Captcha in order to post. — Michael 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
My mistake, thought it was 10k, @Yivi and that's when you can see deleted posts . Will correct my answer (can't edit the comments now). — Larnu 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica
@VLAZ Still, if the text had been particularly NSFW, it would've been nice if it had been hididen. — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
I strongly disagree because the off-topic answer only served one purpose: to confuse the OP and everyone in the future who reads the question and then this answer. That is the only thing it does. Review queues serve to remove low quality items from the site, they are not different boxes used for categorizing quality content. An odd-topic answer can by definition not be high quality. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Review Queues are not the determining the "correctness" of answers, @Lundin . Again, that is what up/down voting is for. — Larnu 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Probably. I'm just theorising on what most likely happened. — VLAZ 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
@VLAZ Yep, it says "User destroyed" in the timeline. — 41686d6564 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
If there is no attempt to answer the question given the tags used, then it is not an answer by definition and it is low quality by definition. It needs to be deleted from the site, not polished, hugged and put on a pedestal for the sole purpose of confusing present and future readers. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
@EJoshuaS Here's a feature request about this from 2014. — 41686d6564 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
It is an attempt to answer, @Lundin , and it isn't "low quality" per the definition of what low quality means... "This was posted as an answer, but it does not attempt to answer the question. It should possibly be an edit, a comment, another question, or deleted altogether." The answer you linked was not meant to be "an edit, a comment, another question". — Larnu 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
No it is not, no more than my pony riding answer example, which would be similarly confusing and off-topic. This here just boils down to the meta "crap hugging" attitude. It shouldn't matter what label we put on crap - it simply needs to go. Rejecting a flag like this is like saying "I'm perfectly able to make the site better since I have the privileges for that, but no, I'm not deleting this crap because you filled in the wrong form and that's all that matters. Not the actual quality of content on the main site." — Lundin 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@AyxanHaqverdili This is easier. — Kevin Krumwiede 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
The only thing this question and that answer have to do with Pony Riding, @Lundin, is you keep bringing it up. But just you; no one else. You aren't going to accept my answer, I can see that, even with several of my comments being upvoted, none of yours being upvoted, and your question being strongly downvoted, so I'll leave the discussion now. I'll let the up/down votes speak. — Larnu 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ayxan Haqverdili
Sure, but doing it my way you can hide a ton of useless stuff from the home page, like the collectives and blog posts. — Ayxan Haqverdili 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@AyxanHaqverdili True, but doing it my way actively causes harm to SO's ability to collect and analyze data. Maybe I'll do both. — Kevin Krumwiede 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Lets never improve the site. Once we have started moderating flags incorrectly many years ago, we must keep doing so. Because surely it is more important what label we put on crap than to have the crap actually removed. — Lundin 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
"Remove distracting "Watched" tag from new design" No, remove the new design altogether!!! — 41686d6564 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rossipedia
Whether it's not profitable "at all" or just not profitable "enough" the outcome/conclusion is still the same. — rossipedia 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
Hi Ch.Muhammad.Bin.khalid, welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Ericson
@WestCoastProjects: Personal contacts mostly. Though thinking about it a bit more, I'm probably overstating it a bit because of my unique experiences. — Jon Ericson 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bhawesh Chaudhary
this is not good that you're discontinuing jobs and all, it's really easy to find companies and available jobs and we can directly apply from here. — Bhawesh Chaudhary 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
@Lundin I have to say, your complaining about the site mechanics is starting to get tiring. This is not even a borderline case; as the suggested duplicate says, VLQ flags are not appropriate for answers in the wrong language. And yes, labels do matter if you want the site to function properly. If you think the current usage of VLQ is a problem, please go ahead and start a discussion to change/improve it, instead of leaving pointless comments like "Lets never improve the site". — cigien 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I find it unfortunate that so many misguided companies have began relying on tag scores on a QA site as a measure of skill. Removing developer story will hopefully reduce that trend. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TT.
I for one am not a fan of the redesign. I find myself no longer wanting to review questions and answers as it is. Also, whoever asked for a redesign anyway? There was nothing wrong with the previous version IMHO. — TT. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by borchvm
I agree, although this is the least of the problems — borchvm 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
"who really cares" .. I do! I expect similar highlighting to the old version to be implemented again. Why should users have to sacrifice convenience due to poor design decisions? — charlietfl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christian P
Less intrusive solution might be to slightly emphasize tags on the question that are being watched. — Christian P 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alan Birtles
You can see in the history that the account was destroyed — Alan Birtles 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@ChristianP Or, just color the background of the box. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
Specific link for "Watched" tags. — Michael 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@j08691 were they all strictly using mobile? — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by borchvm
I agree, makes it eyes go a lot there — borchvm 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jps
the user had two identical posts on the same question, one was marked as "spam or offensive" at 15.15.35Z, the other one (the one you ask about) was deleted a second later, so probably when the account was nuked. — jps 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by borchvm
good job, for now it's a good alternative to avoid the headache — borchvm 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by billynoah
(1) Go to your profile, (2) Click "Edit Profile", (3) Click "Tag watching & ignoring", (4) Click the little "X" next to each tag. I'm not saying this to be snarky - it's just not that obvious how to remove a watched tag since I've never had a reason to try before now, and this actually solves the problem for me. I can still filter questions by tag if I choose and the terrible new layout becomes 1% less terrible. — billynoah 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by borchvm
if you think someone is rude you can always open a report flag — borchvm 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@billynoah you could also just click "Edit" in the watched tags box and then click the X's — Kevin B 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
X net votes. :P — Michael 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by WestCoastProjects
@jrh Your work does not sound boring. It appears you actually mean lesser known . That makes more sense: one can often do more interesting work at lesser known since you have a wider impact within the company. A tiny piece of work at a huge company may affect more people but it's hard to "feel" that day to day. — WestCoastProjects 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tech Inquisitor
"I don't always test my code, but when I do, I do it in production." — Tech Inquisitor 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by HolyBlackCat
An interesting idea, but I'd do it in addition to background highlight. — HolyBlackCat 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Izkata
Watched tags box being on the right sidebar on the homepage. It was also the very first thing I did on seeing this... — Izkata 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@41686d6564 There was once a [feature-request] post titled "Give users the option to disable interactions between accounts to get rid of the risk of accidental voting fraud", but the post got deleted. — Ann Zen 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lithium
"Highlighting just the individual tag" - If you watch "javascript", "typescript", and "C#" about 90% of the home page is "watched", making the current label useless. highlighting the individual tag would at least show you why something is watched. — Lithium 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@PeterMortensen He was not a mod, only a power user (note, being power user in physics is a "little" bit more hard than in the IT world). — peterh 1 min ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
@Lithium Yep. I have turned off all my watched tags save one. — Michael 46 secs ago
 
5:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mike S.
My post is rejected entirely while using no link shorteners, or any URL links, whatsoever. Everything related to my problem uses code markdown. I may be an outlier, but I'm f*cked either way. — Mike S. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Post a bug report here please, @MikeS. - I don't maintain these anymore, but perhaps someone can have a look. — Shog9 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Guerric P
I hope that this is a kind of canary release and that it will be removed because it's really not relevant — Guerric P 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Harald
Same here, the new design does not look like an improvement. — Harald 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@Liam We don't allow cross-site duplicate closure. This question is fine as-is — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
Yes, I understand that the link to the image was already there. I’m saying that the answer you got, that the image should be removed, wouldn’t apply if the image was actually useful instead of a screenshot of text. That’s what I meant by the image (not the editor) adding something to the post. — BSMP 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Akshay Sehgal
@KevinB - beg to differ! by your logic companies should ignore GitHub, because anyone could "fork" a repo and show it as their projects. By your logic, CV's should not even be a thing because you cant measure skill looking at a CV. You misunderstand; tag scores are not a measure of skill but a highlight on a CV. The true measure of technical skill can only be assessed (if at all) after someone has spent significant time working in an organization/team. Let's not mix up the 2 aspects here. — Akshay Sehgal 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@AkshaySehgal github is difficult to fake. SO score is ridiculously easy to obtain. It's literally a game of quantity over quality. Post 10 answers a day, regardless of quality, and your rep will go up enough to be top 1% in a month. it's entirely meaningless. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Akshay Sehgal
Disagree again. It takes time and patience to get a reputation on SO. Its that time / effort that is valued here. Not one is saying one should judge how proficient someone is in a language by looking at SO reputation. But one CAN assess the passion, effort, time someone has put into the coding community as a measure of their reputation. — Akshay Sehgal 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sylvester Kruin
Okay, stop! Just stop! The site was fine the way it was! Why make all these changes? First, we had to put up with a new "responsive" design. Next, they're telling us that the Jobs and the Dev Story are leaving. Now, we have construction-area-yellow labels for watched tags along with a bunch of wasteful whitespace. The tour says that SO is "...built and run by you..."; I beg to differ. Not only did I not authorize any of this, but apparently my complaints are just getting turned the deaf ear of a big corporation. Hopefully someone sees this the way I do? — Sylvester Kruin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
Personally I use https://stackoverflow.com/search?tab=newest&q=is%3aquestion%‌​20intags%3amine to display a search view for questions on my watched tags. — greg-449 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by double-beep
The article states were introduced in this pull request, more were added with this one and got refined with 20 dats ago. — double-beep 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Akshay Sehgal
I agree on the quality of questions. But why would you gauge the quality of a skill from a Q&A site? That's not the point here though. Why not have someone show off their contribution to the community? — Akshay Sehgal 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sylvester Kruin
A side note: we can still "watch" posts by clicking the "follow" button. — Sylvester Kruin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Let me put this another way: What value, if any, does knowing that a potential future employee felt required to have a score on a Q&A site because they thought it'd help them get a job and therefore begrudgingly participated there to earn said rep? — Kevin B 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
What value did that person add to the Q&A community, by answering easy duplicated hundreds of times questions? — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Akshay Sehgal
@KevinB - I mentioned a case in my above comment. It seems you are not only questioning the developer profile but the reputation system as a whole! I agree it's not perfect, but it is better than any other platform out there. — Akshay Sehgal 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
It is a separate issue, but having job prospects be influenced by meaningless numbers is certainly problematic. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Akshay Sehgal
Anyways thanks for the constructive discussion. I do see where you are coming from but I only agree partially I guess. Spending time and effort on SO should be something that a person should be proud of, otherwise, you will be left with an almost dead platform where people only come to copy-paste code from :) — Akshay Sehgal 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by erickson
@greg-449 Does that strictly limit to watched tags? Or does it include interesting questions based on one's history? — erickson 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Akshay Sehgal
Also, anyone who is smart enough to consider SO as a hiring criteria should understand how the platform works in the first place (including its limitations). An example is my future employer (spoilers!) actually interviewed me on this answer that I wrote on SO. — Akshay Sehgal 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
@erickson It is strictly watched tags, nothing else — greg-449 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
It is indeed very ambiguous and misleading. I've been using Watched Tags for years and when I first thought the yellow label this morning, I thought it meant "You've already viewed this question" and was like "No, I didn't!" - until I finally realized what it meant. — 41686d6564 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
...until the new design is also applied to /questions and then the only option would be to use a userscript (which won't work in all situations). — 41686d6564 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
"displayed "interesting" questions with excerpts." Wait, what? I'm pretty sure no excerpts were displayed on the landing page (only on /questions). — 41686d6564 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mike S.
@Shog9 I removed some of the console log output. For some reason file paths were interpreted as URL's. — Mike S. 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Kugelman
There definitely were excerpts. It must have varied from user to user somehow. I used to get excerpts on the landing page, too, exactly as erickson describes. It was a filtered version of /questions, but less filtered than greg's suggestion of only watched questions. — John Kugelman 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Campbell
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
Huh! I never ever seen excerpts there and never knew that other users did. Weird! — 41686d6564 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Kugelman
This post is actually restoring my sanity. I felt like I've been getting gaslit with everyone insisting there were no excerpts and posting archive.org links showing none. I know they were there; not on any sub-page but right on the home page stackoverflow.com. — John Kugelman just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tyler Selden
@IanCampbell Thank you for that link. However, I was thinking more along the lines of a built-in feature, not just a script that you can run on the page. — Tyler Selden 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user16320675
you mean it should be "Will be asked next year?" :-) — user16320675 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
As I mentioned in that question's comments, why would Stack Overflow spend money maintaining every version of each UI they produce? How far back should the option go? You saw that old question, when the option to "revert to old UI" is checked, which "old UI" should it revert to? The one that was old when that question was asked, or when this question was asked? Or maybe a dropdown of every version of the UI code? Seems like a bigger ask now? — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by erickson
I think the only way I can really be convinced they were never there is with a rollback. — erickson 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by erickson
I'm having another Berenstein Bears moment. The multiverse is a crazy place. I think the only way I can really be convinced they were never there is with a rollback. — erickson 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
That is the reputation of the user. — Braiam 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Walter Monecke
@rossipedia When you have a product you need to keep the customers happy. These kind of decisions are the ones that will ruin SO in the long run. — Walter Monecke 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tyler Selden
@HereticMonkey That would make sense, although it's not like they'd have to spend a ton of time programming the old UIs, seeing as they've already been made. It'd just take up a bit more storage and maybe a PHP script. But I feel that a dropdown menu would be a good idea, and that's why I also tagged this post as "feature request". If they're going to add the feature, they could start with the UI that is used at the time of making the feature, and go from there. — Tyler Selden 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Poul Bak
Whatever happened to Responsive design? Responsive design is about using the available space in a matter that makes sense - and half the screen in white does not make sense. — Poul Bak 17 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by jps
the backticks are supposed to be on a separate line with no other content — jps 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kylaaa
I know, that's the point — Kylaaa 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
Adding recent developments together (Job SO closure, + at least two terrible UX "changes"), I think we are now at the point of the end of the Stack Overflow, as we ever knew it. However, SEDE is yet working, and it is yet a perfect tool to measure the evaporation of the users/visitors, to validate or disprove my view. — peterh 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
It is no longer part of our strategy — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
None of the Jobs features affect rep & privileges on the site. It was intentionally designed to be separate from Q&A — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
Additional warnings and notices will appear closer to the date, these are currently in development. Most of the export features already exist but they’re in a few different places and typically scoped to exporting all your data, not just what’s associated with Jobs and Developer Story. We’re in the process of creating a simpler flow that would allow users to export this data in one shot. We opted to share this post here earlier so that people had a heads-up that these changes were underway. — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
I appreciate your feedback and I’m glad to hear you had positive experiences with Jobs. When we look at overall usage & engagement, though, less than 1% of our monthly users engaged with Jobs and, of those, most never received any messages from employers. Most employers found our sourcing system too restrictive or difficult to work with. (1/2) — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
We would need to spend a lot more time & effort to address these issues, and we’d likely still be behind competing products where recruitment is their primary focus. We’d rather spend that effort on improving our core platform and products that are more closely aligned with it. (2/2) — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tonysepia
Thank you for clarifying — tonysepia 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
The space after the backticks is for identifying the language. Perhaps that could be emphasized somewhere in the editor. — CodeCaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Or can the markdown be changed to automatically include a newline so this line isn't lost? I doubt it as normally the language-hint will go directly after the three ticks. — rene 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by billynoah
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
+1 - I agree that something like the error you've suggested could be implemented. I haven't yet noticed any content being changed automatically by/in any StackOverflow tool/section, probably it's a standard that's followed, but yes, that can also be changed if needed. The post editor is not up to the mark, at least to me it seems so because it's not properly functional; for example, many submissions would be blocked by the system showing errors like "Your post is mostly code..." while it's sometimes not. It can be improved a lot. — The Amateur Coder 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
I'm glad to hear that you found the quality of listings higher on SO Jobs, this was one of the key principles we followed when making product decisions. Unfortunately, traffic alone wasn't enough of a differentiator in the recruitment tech space and we were lagging behind other competing products when it came to candidate engagement. If you're interested, check out the related comment I made on this post. — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
I've seen many posts whose parts are ignored by the system, so yes, this issue should be addressed IMHO because if new users' contributions are taken into consideration, then this could increase participation and activity and the clarity of the usage of the site's tools. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
I'm glad to hear that you didn't find the posts intrusive, we spent a lot of time trying to strike a good balance between promoting relevant content and not being disruptive. Check out the comments I posted here, it's related to this topic. — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kylaaa
@rene, I know. One thought could be that if the first line cannot be parsed as the language-hint, it does not swallow the line. But this may be an unnecessary complication to the markdown renderer, but I just spit-balling ideas at this point. — Kylaaa 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
We considered & experimented with a self-serve option for Jobs aimed at smaller companies. However, this resulted in two major problems: 1) we had no way to monitor & manage the quality of listings being posted; 2) smaller companies typically posted 1-2 listings for a short duration (eg 30 days) which did not result in enough candidates for them to justify using the platform. In reality, most developers don’t actively seek out opportunities via job boards; they rely increasingly more on their network and connections, similar to your experience of interacting with like-minded folks. — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
"Is there anything that can be done to make it clearer to people that their code isn't being formatted properly?" - People can proof read their post like they're supposed to and say "Oh, a line of my code is missing" — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
I doubt there's any system that people who don't look at their own post cannot find a way to mess up. — khelwood 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
The points you’ve described here are exactly how the Jobs platform functioned and why it was a major part of our strategy over the past decade. Unfortunately, traffic alone doesn’t cut it in the recruitment tech space; we lacked enough candidate engagement especially when compared to other competing products. Less than 1% of our monthly traffic engaged with Jobs and only ~0.03% have a Developer Story that’s visible to employers. (1/2) — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
These are solvable problems - for example, the suggestions you made about improving Developer Story are all valid. What we can’t justify is spending the time & effort needed to excel in this space compared to all the other things we could be doing. Our core isn’t tech recruitment and we would always lag behind others in the space that are solely focused on these problems. Making these changes allow us to spend more time improving our core knowledge sharing platform and the products that are closely aligned with it. (2/2) — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
"-1 votes" What can I say? Who would ever write that? Does it mean that if there is one more vote we reach no votes at all? I have difficulties imagining how this can have passed quality control. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kylaaa
@Nick and khelwood, certainly, I bring up this up because I've seen this problem a few times and wanted to discuss possible ways to improve the UI. The answer could just be: "no, the tools are fine, users just aren't using them" — Kylaaa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
Very surely, there is none. They want to push it down on your throat, not helping you to avoid it. — peterh 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
As I mentioned in my post, we made & shared this decision back in early 2021, which was well before we were acquired. This has been years in the making. — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kylaaa
Also, are people downvoting because this is a low quality question or it doesn't belong here? Or as a way to say, "this isn't a problem" — Kylaaa 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Most likely This isn't a problem and if my query will run I'll post an answer explaining that. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
This looks like a duplicate of meta.stackoverflow.com/q/391467/6083675. But also an important bit of context is that the first line is where you put the syntax highlighting language, so it's not as simple as forcing it to be blank. — Laurel 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kylaaa
Thank you for sharing the link @Laurel, I did some searching to see if this has already been asked, but couldn't find anything. I'll close the question as a duplicate in a bit — Kylaaa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
hi @balpha, been a while! I remember this, it was during my first year at Stack! Sunsetting these features has definitely felt bittersweet. Thanks again for everything you've done for Dev Story, and more generally for Stack, over the years — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lasse V. Karlsen
“But the plans were on display…” “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.” “That’s the display department.” “With a flashlight.” “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.” “So had the stairs.” “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.” — Lasse V. Karlsen 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GManNickG
@KevinB Exactly. This new design is cleaner in the same way my desk is cleaner when I just shove everything out of the way. — GManNickG 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by j08691
Mission accomplished, watched label removed and the old highlighting is back. Now if they would just undo all the other changes... — j08691 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Even the markdown guide states that the syntax is ```\n{Your Code here}\n``` (where \n means new line). The problem isn't the markdown parsing, it's your syntax. It's like blaming incorrect code for not working correctly, and you want the code to be changed to correctly infer your incorrect syntax. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
Voting on any of the Meta sites is different than on main sites. On Meta sites, votes much more strongly represent people's agreement or disagreement with the position expressed in the post, rather than just an expression of people's opinion on the quality of the post, although they can also reflect that. On bug reports, voting can represent people being able to reproduce the issue, or not. As a consequence, downvotes on Meta should not be automatically considered to mean that there are problems with the post. On the other hand, it doesn't hurt to double-check that the post quality is good. — Makyen ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Because the OP approved it, they can unilaterally approve/reject any suggested edits on their posts. — Nick 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Puneet Mulchandani
It's in the works, it'll happen as part of the changes we're making in February — Puneet Mulchandani ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@Nick, oh, is there any way to find out who approved the edit, or at least if it was approved by the OP or the community? — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
I always just use a custom search (on a bunch of tags) to find activity in tags I'm interested in. The custom filter seems designed for that. I never noticed the existence of this mis-feature, although possibly it came and went while I was asleep. — Peter Cordes 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
If you click the "edit approved 1 hour ago" in the revision history, it takes you to the suggested edit review. — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
Link to the suggested edit review item in question. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@Lundin The pool of possible users is even smaller, you need 20k to cast delete votes on answers. 10k allows such votes only on questions (with a certain delay). — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kylaaa
@Makyen, thank you for the explanation. This is my first meta post and wasn't sure about the etiquette. — Kylaaa 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sylvester Kruin
I'd appreciate any explanations for the downvotes. — Sylvester Kruin 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kylaaa
Fair enough, thank you for the write up. — Kylaaa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I'd assume downvotes are because zoom 100% is what the team works with, they don't test all zoom levels. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Most likely not a bug, but an intended change from this re-design: New responsive Activity page. You're reducing the size of the available space and the responsive design gives more priority to other stuff than the graph. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
On an off-note, that's far from the worst edit that could be approved with that summary :) A slightly ranty note: I can't fathom how editors keep messing up the word "grammar" en masse... (really, how hard can it be to spell it correctly?) — Oleg Valter 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
No, really, just take a look at this SEDE query - that is a complete mystery to me... — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wjandrea
@Merlin I wasn't "hassling you", I was trying to improve your post by clarifying your actual question. I would come across your question every now and then when a newbie asked "How do I do square root", and I wanted to close as duplicate, but I couldn't in good conscience because your actual question was about a different issue. And it's also not about you, it's about the content. I'm trying to improve the whole site here, and having clear question titles helps researching immensely. Honestly, you taking it personally is a big part of the problem. — wjandrea 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Brad
@Punnet Thank you for the reply — Brad 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wjandrea
@Merlin regarding "NEW question replacing OLD is unusable", I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly, but for comparison, old questions can be closed as duplicates of newer questions if the newer question is better (e.g. clearer, better answers, more upvotes, etc). — wjandrea 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@OlegValter Maybe that town is just popular — Kevin B 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
Woah, that's a lot... 50000 rows- I don't know either. Maybe in many cases, it's because "A" and "E" aren't too far away from each other. — The Amateur Coder 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@KevinB seems like the editor population there is hella densely packed :) For the benefit of other readers: 39°09′10″N 85°43′30″W — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@OlegValter It's often a good indicator of issues in the suggestion, I've been complaining about it recently in DMs with people. — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ugh StackExchange
I feel like we're going to have a growing list of userscripts to revert the website back to what it was. This is already #3 on my list. (#1 was the line-height reversion after they changed that. #2 is the removal of collectives userscript). — ugh StackExchange 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Slightly revised (prettified) version of the query - not for the faint-hearted [you have been warned]. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
just combine them into an extension with a configuration menu — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
I think there is nothing spam or rude in the answer. Other del reasons might stay, but the deletion as spam/rude is imho false. — peterh 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwirony
So ugly... why fix it if it isn't broken? — dwirony 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@animuson I read finally this. Well, my opinion about the Job SO closure, as I wrote in my deleted post, did not change. But I wish you to have more luck with it as I can predict. — peterh 33 secs ago
 

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