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12:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tcurdt
"...who don't like the tone of someone that's putting them into their right place. In those cases you shouldn't ask for a feature like this, but grow some skin." Unfortunately "the right place" is very subjective and "grow some skin" is a very cringeworthy recommendation that usually is not found in a code of conduct. — tcurdt 15 secs ago
 
 
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1:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@anastaciu - You should edit your proposal to make it clear, you want an automatic notification, that is not written by any specific community user or suggest the author accepts any specific answer. — Security Hound 1 min ago
 
2:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shadowheart411
Why is this being downvoted? lol. Am I doing something wrong or in the wrong place? — Shadowheart411 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joundill
Yeah, ask your question on stackoverflow.com, not meta.stackoverflow.com — Joundill 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joundill
Meta is for questions about how Stack Overflow operates. — Joundill 58 secs ago
 
 
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5:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Grismar
This bug survived until 2022! Happy New Year. — Grismar 1 min ago
 
6:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gabriel Staples
Ok, do we know where this link is? And since the Announcer badge is awarded for me posting the link, then it must be that I posted a link somewhere else to my own question which is "Passing an array...", right? — Gabriel Staples 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
@GabrielStaples I did a Google search with your specific sharing URL https://stackoverflow.com/a/51527502/4561887 and at least it's on this comment, a code comment on this answer, and many scraper sites. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gabriel Staples
If I click on the link you posted, it changes from https://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/415511/4561887 to this expanded version https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415511/how-to-under‌​stand-the-announcer-‌​badge-which-link-fro‌​m-where-to-where-was‌​-clic at the top of the screen. Does that expanded version also get tracking? I see the number 415511 in it. Normally I use only the expanded URLs, not the short ones, since the expanded ones get auto-displayed as the name of the question, which is really convenient to not have to copy-paste that too. — Gabriel Staples 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The "expanded" version is the "real" URL. It's not tracked because it does not include your user ID. The "sharing" URL (the one you obtain by clicking "share"), is a "short URL" with your user ID appended. That's the reason it can be tracked and the badge can be awarded. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gabriel Staples
@yivi, interesting. I'm probably missing hundreds of opportunities for this badge then because I use almost exclusively the "real" URL, and even so, I've gotten the badge 34 times for the few rare cases I use the short "Share" URL. — Gabriel Staples 58 secs ago
 
7:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user16320675
and I thought we are so passionate to have a clear and correct title for questions... "I'm asking if there is something that can be linked to ..." - not in the title :-/ — user16320675 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sabito 錆兎
fraudsters; criminals or terrorists building something evil ... well that escalated quickly — Sabito 錆兎 just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shambhav Gautam
I don't know much about Azure but I'd rather split azure-stream-analytics into azure and stream-analytics just like python-textprocessing. The only reason azure-stream-analytics should exist is if stream-analytics in Azure is special. That's why we have a c-string tag and no c++-string tag or python-string tag. I know \0 about Auzure, so I won't give my opinion. — Shambhav Gautam 1 min ago
 
7:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rakesh.sahu
I'm sad to see Jobs section go. It was one of my favorite places to search and apply to jobs. Stack overflow is open area where recruiters could map true potential of candidates. — rakesh.sahu 20 secs ago
 
8:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
People don't seem to get that this is an announcement, not a discussion, even though it's tagged with discussion, because meta tags are mandatory. Jobs is EOL. Asking for it to stay is asking for water to stop being wet. You got the news, now go out there and find an alternative, there are plenty. Never bet on a single horse. — Cerbrus 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Next steps? There are no next steps other than shutting down jobs, as you can read under "What can you expect in the coming months?"Cerbrus 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Great looking job offers are all over the place on all kinds of sites. Heck, even on LinkedIn I get plenty of great offers. "It feels good" isn't a practical reason to maintain something like jobs, though. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Compelling argument. "Boo I don't like the decision!" This isn't even an answer, should be a comment at best. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
I got the same now. It is my first session from my current (private) browser window. — peterh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Yea sure you have a lot of companies, but even when I try to look for something local, you have no information on the Netherlands, and the closest I can find is Berlin, listing "new grad" (0 experience) jobs from Amazon and Yelp that supposedly make three times what I make? Absolute nonsense! — Cerbrus 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What is "notepad"? Do you mean Notepad? — Peter Mortensen 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@WalterMonecke: Oh please, blame a single person in the entire company. That's neither true nor constructive. — Cerbrus 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What is "notepad"? Do you mean Notepad? Or some online notepad? If yes, which one? Something else? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
I am very surprised by this answer. I've had no problem at all dealing with plagiarism and similar via flagging; the mod team usually handles these very appropriately and thoroughly, as far as I can tell. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
 
8:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joundill
@ShambhavGautam There are 852 questions tagged stream-analytics or azure-stream-analytics. 4 of which are not about Azure. — Joundill 1 min ago
 
9:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
@Makoto the "conversation" is useless though as the entity you're trying to converse with (SO) is not interested in this conversation, as has been shown time and time again over the years. — l4mpi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
@KevinB you might have failed to notice but that fight was already lost a few years ago when they created the SO landing page against heavy community pushback (open stackoverflow.com in a private window if you don't know what I'm talking about). The blog is basically a marketing / CR endeavour, as was the landing page. If you think they're going to enact actual change on the blog due to a bit of criticism after a bad article or 20, I would question where this baseless optimism comes from. — l4mpi 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Smith
@ShambhavGautam - terrible idea. Questions tagged azure-stream-analytics will be about that specific product - not about general concept of doing analytics on streams. — Martin Smith 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
No. In contrast to the company's very unfortunate attitude to plagiarism, most Stack Overflow moderators actually take plagiarism seriously. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ayhan
Not that you need to be reminded but your approach is also against the code of conduct. — ayhan 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
If there is one universal truth about Stack Overflow, it is that caching makes people believe that Stack Overflow has a lot of bugs. — Gimby 6 secs ago
 
10:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nvoigt
Could you quote the part of the license that says that SO is allowed to modify my post and leave it under my name? That would be the weirdest copyright ever. I gave SO rights to my content to do with it as they please, but certainly not with my name under it. That's like saying Mozart is in the public domain, now I can change it as I want and still say it's Mozart. It's not Mozart if you changed it and the legal right to create derivative works does not change the fact that you cannot attribute the changes to the original author. — nvoigt 10 secs ago
 
10:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
It wasn't "mysteriously" closed at all; the reason and who are all given. What is mysterious about the closure? — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@LordF exactly what Dharman tried to explain to you - it is the possible answers that make questions the same or different from another. — Gimby 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I will admit that the closure reason probably isn't correct, it isn't asking for "recommendations for books, tools, software libraries, and more" but (although it's not my subject matter) it just seems overly broad; the only question you ask is "Could is be solved any easier?" which is very open ended and what is "easy" is very subjective. Just because the wrong closure reason has been selected, however, doesn't mean the question should be reopened; questions aren't reopened and closed just to fix the reason. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Yeah in the future, avoid terminology such as "mysterious", "weird", "strange", "odd", etc. If you want to use a word like that, you did not do enough work yourself yet to try and understand what you are seeing. Right and wrong, that is what you are aiming for. In this case you could state a claim that the question is wrongfully closed. Fair enough. The response to it might be that it is reopened or that you et an explanation of how you are wrong at which point you may learn something, win-win. — Gimby 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
This is Meta Stack Overflow, for discussions about how Stack Overflow works. Your question is off-topic here. — greg-449 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Wrong site. But before this is deleted I want to point something out: now try to prove that it is the simplest solution. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
11:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Just to be clear: You are complaining about this specific question closure, not that the rationale of the close reason in general is mysterious or trolling, correct? — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
You don't need to speculate, it is even documented that voting on meta is different. By extension it makes less sense to sort things by vote on meta. — Gimby 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by monkey
I really do dispair. You lot are ridiculous. — monkey 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by monkey
Please by all means, let's try for a new world record in down votes! If that doesn't 100% prove my point about trolling then irony truly is dead. — monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
I've flagged plagiarism many times and the moderators have always taken it seriously, from what I can tell often with disciplinary consequences for the poster. I can't recall a single scenario where they ignored my flag and the plagiarized answer was allowed to remain. — Lundin 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@monkey: I tried to rephrase your question into what I think you are actually asking for. If you don't like the change or if I misinterpreted your intention, feel free to roll it back. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LordF
How can questions be closed on the basis of "possible" answers when there are infinitely many of them? After all, it is possible to answer "Your question is nonsense" or "sadghsfgjhsdfdbsDz" for each question, following this line of reasoning, each question is a duplicate of 1 question on the stack. [1/5] — LordF 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LordF
Well, let's assume that we exclude "possible answers" without meaningful and untrue answers, although the latter is sometimes difficult to define, especially in non-binary questions, and consists of several questions. [2/5] — LordF 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LordF
Following this reasoning, the question "$a =3; $b = 5, how much is $a + $b?" is a unique question for "$a = 3; $b = 4, how much is $a + $b?". But on the question "What is the latest PHP version?" not anymore, because the answer to both is "8". [3/5] — LordF 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LordF
And now you can say that these are terribly inevitable and pointless questions, which in the case of the first is true, but that in turn leads to my question in the comment above, why are the questions I sent as an example still open, they are not unique at all, are questions about solutions to this and only this particular problem exactly like "[...] $a + $b?". [4/5] — LordF 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LordF
But if it is not so and these questions are ok. Then where in the answers that Dharman has attached is the answer to my question: Will I have 1000 objects or 2000 after the loop? Because that was my question. [5/5] — LordF 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@JonathanWillcock theoretically you may not even be so far off with that percentage, but practically it would be the death of the site because goodbye ad revenue :) Also, ain't nobody got time for that many deletions. It is finding that middle ground - defining when a question is "good enough" rather than all of them needing to be top tier. — Gimby 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by monkey
@BDL thats cool. Clearly my choice of words did not go down especially well. Thank you for the translation. — monkey 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I find it slightly unusual that you didn't find anything with "rename files with bash" and similar. It would surprise me that even if reopened the question woudln't end up being closed as a duplicate. Still, the "seeking recommendations" was likely an error. — yivi 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by IMSoP
The summary shown when a question is closed only shows one reason, if different users selected different options. I think it goes with a majority if there is one, but with only three votes required, it's not all that unlikely that only first user (Compo) selected "seeking recommendation", perhaps by accident; and the other two selected different options. — IMSoP just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by monkey
@yivi there were plenty of close but no cigar questions. I'm finding this exchange exponentially more interesting than the original (inconsequential) question. Its really instructive watching how larnu earns thousands of reputation by piling in on beleaguered, friendless contributors. I am not being facetious. I genuinely mean that. — monkey 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
No idea what you mean, but if you are intent on being unfriendly, I'm out of here. Good luck in the future — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by monkey
And for goodness sake could we please close this question. Ill go first. — monkey 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I wonder if there is a way for users to delete their own questions... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by monkey
@yivi I'm 100% not being unfriendly. I am grateful for your comment. I need s face palm emogi. — monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by monkey
@yivi Yes! I went with opinion based. You'll second that, won't you? — monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by monkey
However, I couldn't down vote my own post, which is a shame. — monkey 40 secs ago
 
12:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
"Its really instructive watching how larnu earns thousands of reputation by piling in on beleaguered, friendless contributors." -- you asked why the question was closed and Larnu gave decent reasons. Why are you blaming him when all he is doing is answering well, the question you posed? If you didn't want an answer, why ask in the first place? You right, this exchange is instructive. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 24 secs ago
 
12:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by monkey
@HovercraftFullOfEels Welcome to the feeding frenzy. Feel free to fill your boots with reputation at the expense of furthering our combined understanding. — monkey just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I suspect that the user in question posted several answers, all promoting their GitHub project, and hence why the answer is flagged as spam, The original revision, as well, didn't contain a lot of the information it now does which would have made it look much more like spam. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
The forms of questions you described is not in scope of SO. The first form should be closed because it is so specific, it is unlikely to help others (the poorly named "no repro or typo" reason). Note that a slightly modified form, "a=3,b=5; a+b=35; why?" is on topic (and is a duplicate). Tge second form is also not in scope as it cannot be definitively answered (+ invites low-quality contribitions). "Does lang X have Y?", though, is on topic despite the possibility of the answer to change (only 2 possible states) — Oleg Valter 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
@monkey Nobody is gaining reputation from this. Upvotes on comments don't earn reputation, closing questions doesn't earn reputation, and you cannot gain or lose reputation on Meta in any way. — F1Krazy 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Also, I think I have to reiterate on my previous comment - the site is run by volunteers just like you, in the time and effort they can spare. That something is not closed does not mean it is on topic (nor does it mean the opposite) or not a duplicate. It can take years for even the most egregious examples to be closed, that does not indicate that all these years the community consensus used to be that they were on topic. — Oleg Valter 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tadeusz Kopec
The second revision looks even worse. — Tadeusz Kopec 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Walter Monecke
@Cerbrus his title is CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER. He literally is the person who says what will be done and what not. He is steering away from jobs / dev story because it isn't as profitable as he would like it to be. If he really cared about the SO and read this thread he would clearly see that it's not what we devs want. This is just a result of Prosus pushing greed. — Walter Monecke 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Walter Monecke
The mods removing comments of people lashing against this decision is the new SO meta. — Walter Monecke 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"I wondered why the post might be an audit" - Well because it was deleted :) There is no magic behind why something is chosen as an audit and for that reason there is nothing "wrong" with this question being used as an audit. The true question is why it was deleted. Your focus on it being an audit is a red herring, especially when you used that as a reason for flagging it. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Walter Monecke
The CEO of SO is so out of touch with this community. Corporate greed back at it again. — Walter Monecke 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Walter Monecke
Prosus (the company who bought SO) is just pushing greed. This is a result of that. Why keep something we devs like but makes little money when you can put those engineers and resources to "better" use? — Walter Monecke 53 secs ago
 
1:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by undetected Selenium
@GabrielStaples because I use almost exclusively the "real" URL: Possibly the same case with me, I'm yet to be awarded the Announcer badge. — undetected Selenium 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
And what makes you think any CEO has unilateral control over any company, @WalterMonecke? That's just not how businesses work. And even if he had that kind of control, why should he continue supporting a product that's clearly not as effective or profitable as required? — Cerbrus 1 min ago
 
1:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
You're close. A moderator spam-flagged this due to self promotion. The user then self-deleted. I undeleted and then re-deleted the post. Should prevent any future audits based on it. — Machavity ♦ 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Considering the quoted comment, I'll remember to not contribute by giving a reasonable answer to the OP's questions and just vote appropriately in the future then. If they ever need help in my expert domain, that's their loss not mine, I suppose. — Larnu 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bhargav Rao
The third revision seems like a useful answer (unless it was plagiarized) ... probably just remove the spam link (or replace "link to a" to "link to my"), and then save the answer. — Bhargav Rao 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LordF
@OlegValter Okay, so this is exactly what I think. There is no pattern to close as duplicate. It depends on opinions and assumptions. Like you don't, you know if the question can help, you assume it's unlikely. And it is not a consensus of the community, there was no consensus here, there was a decision of one person here. The solution to my problem and to other people who disagree with the statement that their questions are duplicates is simply to assume the exact same question and hope that they will not hit the person who closes the question as a duplicate. — LordF 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LordF
But don't worry, I won't do that with this question because I wrote myself a script that answered my question for me. — LordF just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
the first: it is basically a link only answer and so low quality — nbk 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MatthewMartin
I mean Notepad. — MatthewMartin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eddie Deng
I think SO is the best place for REMOTE jobs. Even you can find alternatives they are more suitable for finding local jobs but not for remote ones. If you know any good resources for remote jobs please advise. — Eddie Deng 1 min ago
 
2:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shambhav Gautam
@MartinSmith Okay then, I have no idea about the details of Azure. I told it. — Shambhav Gautam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shambhav Gautam
@Joundill You can't just claim that all stream-analytics are azure-stream-analytics. There can be rival service. What happens to those 4 questions though? — Shambhav Gautam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Camilo Terevinto
@ShambhavGautam Do you know of a rival service with the exact same name? Also, if AWS had its own product called "AWS Stream Analytics", I'm confident it'd be so different to [azure-stream-analytics] that it wouldn't make sense to have a single tag for both products. — Camilo Terevinto 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Willcock
@Gimby I totally agree with you. It does trouble me though. I know it has been unsuccessfully raised before, but personally I feel the site should be split in two, junior and senior (to which the right to post questions requires reasonable rep). Questions on the junior site would automatically die after a few weeks, unless high rep users "promoted" them to the senior site. On this basis there would be no need for downvoting (perceived by newbies as unfriendly) on the junior site, since the questions will die anyway. But there is still the same traffic for ads. — Jonathan Willcock 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
@Machavity - thanks for taking care of the post. Should I not have raised a custom flag to bring this to the moderators' attention? I'm wondering why my flag would have been declined. — Wai Ha Lee 5 secs ago
 
3:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
I bet we could just re-tag the 80 that are about Azure, remove the tag from the remaining four, and wait to see if it gets recreated. — TylerH 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
What is an "org table" and why does the tag need to exist on Stack Overflow? Do you mean "org chart"? — TylerH 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
You can go to the tag's 'top users' page to see the top 20 users in asking and answering, both all-time and in the last 30 days. For anything other than that, you'll need to run a query against SEDE. — TylerH 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Yes, you can ask exam questions here, but they have to follow the same guidelines in terms of quality as any other question posted on the site. Obviously, you should check whether you're allowed to ask other people about exam questions, but that's not something we care about. — cigien 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Basically, the site does not care if it is an exam question or not as long as it follows the quality guidance applicable for all questions — Dharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@ShambhavGautam Nobody gets to claim stream-analytics. That's the preferred way when to namespaces collide. That would totally avoid ambiguity. — Braiam 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
And here's the feature request that would fix it meta.stackexchange.com/q/238647/213575Braiam 23 secs ago
 
3:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
How would be the ban on point @TylerH if they didn't learn anything and the system made no effort in teaching them? — Braiam 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Braiam The point of the ban is to prevent people who refuse to learn how to review from reviewing. That's what "on point" means. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drew
@TylerH: An Org table is specific to Emacs. It has meaning when tag emacs is used. — Drew 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
@Gimby I'm not speculating that people vote for different reasons on meta - I'm speculating about the reason(s) that the accepted answer is pinned to the top on meta, which is what the question is about. — kaya3 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Yes, however, they can't... "learn" from one failure, certainly when the system is so pre-disposed to selecting poor audits. though, i think it's fair to generally come to the conclusion that someone whose reached such a long suspension could potentially find a different way to contribute that works better for them. — Kevin B 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
As long as you ask a clear, answerable, on-topic, non-duplicate question, you should be fine. SE offers no assistance in taking down exam questions (if you are worried about that) either. Whether you would receive an unfair advantage because of posting here is also just a matter of your conscience/institution policy - we do not really care as long as the post follows the guidelines. — Oleg Valter 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Please note that exam/homework dumps are frowned upon and are usually voted accordingly, so make sure you ask an actual question in your own words (use quotes if how the exam question is asked is important to understand the problem you are facing) — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gabriel Staples
I'm always mystified by what makes people downvote on this site. What's the reason this question is downvoted 2 times? Some people thought the answer should be obvious maybe--making this question a "stupid question" to them? — Gabriel Staples 9 secs ago
 
4:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
While we don't care that it is an exam question your teachers might, and they do know about Stack Overflow. So be sure your are allowed to ask here. — greg-449 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Drew Gotcha, so would emacs-orgtable or emacs-org-table be better? — TylerH 1 min ago
 
4:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drew
@TylerH: Maybe; dunno. But why add the prefix emacs-? Org mode is huge. Tag org-table in emacs.SE has 300 uses, tag org-mode in emacs.SE has 5000 uses. — Drew 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Drew The prefix would be so users mixing up 'table' and 'chart' terminology don't mistake "org-table" for what they want when they are talking about an org chart. If org-table becomes more popular, it could be incorrectly selected any time an asker posts about org charts, since it would show up before org-chart would. — TylerH 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Re: the issue above, [table] is a bad tag and should not be used. You should not be trying to create it. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
A mod already confirmed that the answer was spam deleted. — cigien 24 secs ago
 
5:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
Can we please not try to vote to close this question? Some subjectivity on Meta is fine.E_net4 the curator 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drew
@TylerH: I was not trying to create tag table. Not at all. Please read the post. I simply mentioned that you cannot add that tag, even though the UI tells you that it's an existing tag (and the proposed new tag is (wrongly?) considered too similar to it). — Drew 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@WaiHaLee I probably wouldn't have declined it, but each mod has their own take on those. I let them know if they want to weigh in. In general, it's not a high priority for us to fix these because the system does this with some regularity. If you get review banned over one, that would probably be a different story for more mods. — Machavity ♦ 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drew
@TylerH: There's nothing sacrosanct about org charts. That's akin to saying that there can't be a data-flow tag because there's a flow-chart tag (or vice versa). There are lots of tag names that are similar to others that are unrelated. That's the nature of names, and it's the nature of an extremely widely scoped domain such as StackOverflow. (Now if all of its posts tagged emacs were instead moved to emacs.SE, and tag emacs were burned, then there wouldn't be such a problem.) — Drew 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rossipedia
"Greed" is different from "we need to keep the servers running, the lights on, and make sure employees get paid". If an endeavor costs more money than it makes, it is unsustainable, regardless of how many people are attached to it. The bottom line is that these business ventures did not pan out, and did not even make "break even" revenue. Continuing to throw money down the drain would be insanity and would eventually lead to collapse. — rossipedia 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
@WalterMonecke People being unconstructively antagonistic and nasty towards anyone, including the company, has never, and will never, be allowed anywhere on Stack Exchange. There are plenty of valid critiques that are sticking around just fine– the attacks, however, should not. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Sigh... let's not play the "everything is subjective" card. There is a clear objective criterion for the duplicate closure: if question A can be answered with an answer from question B (or vice versa), those are duplicates. The criterion is never about the similarity between questions themselves. That said, there is always (just with everything in life) a judgment call involved, and that is what we have subject matter experts for. It takes 3 of them to close a single question (or 1 with a gold tag badge, but you need that one to notice) - with the sheer number of posts on SO [1/2] — Oleg Valter 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
[2/2] they cannot be expected to monitor and act on each and every one of them (again, note that this is all unpaid volunteer work). Note that all my comments revolve around the argument you made about other questions being not closed - the fact that they are not closed does not mean anything by itself: that's for subject matter experts to decide (and vote accordingly). — Oleg Valter 21 secs ago
 
6:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JDB
@nvoigt - The full edit history is available for every post. I never said, or implied, that SO can edit your content as if you had written it that way. The last user to edit the post is clearly identified (as you can see from this very post), as well as the original author. — JDB 1 min ago
 
6:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Juice
I added this bug to our tracker but it's going to go on the backlog for now so I can't commit to an ETA. — Juice ♦ 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sudheesh R
This will be a bad decision, letting go of Developer story is a disaster. It is a cool feature that everyone loves. It will be a justice to the community if you don't kill the 'Developer Story' — Sudheesh R 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Merlin
@user000001. Thanks for defending my post. Since I wrote that question, it has been my favorite question on SO. Yes, the title is somewhat incorrect to underlying problem in Python2. When I wrote that question I didnt know about interger division. There really no way to know that. With hindsight all the commentors miss this: Since I have watched the question rise in popularity, what people dont know is that the answer has always had 2 to 1 upvotes. The answer is very clever. Read the answer have a laugh, NEW question replacing this is unusable. Congrats SO. python>>> "import this" — Merlin 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JDB
@nvoigt - Updated as requested. — JDB 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Merlin
@wjandrea, Congrats. after years of hassling me. SO gave you your wish. With hindsight all the commentors miss this: Since I have watched the question rise in popularity, what people dont know is that the answer has always had 2 to 1 upvotes. The answer is very clever. Read the answer have a laugh, NEW question replacing OLD is unusable. Congrats SO. python>>> "import this" — Merlin 40 secs ago
 
6:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
You absolutely will be unable to ask your exam questions. I am guessing the exam has more than a handful of questions and you don’t have unlimited time to answer the question. You have a time limit isn’t a factor we consider, some questions, take days to receive an answer. Additionally, the thought of helping somebody cheat on their exam, is ethically questionable. — Security Hound 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Drew That's not really accurate; generic tags often are recommended to be replaced with platform-specific ones. "org table" is so generic a name that it could be confused with "org chart" (because chart and table are terms that are often interchanged), so it makes sense to specify "org table" a bit more, since an Emacs Org mode file's "table" object is not similar to an "organizational chart" whatsoever... it's called "tag disambiguation" and is a very common subject of discussion here on Meta (it even has its own tag!). — TylerH 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nvoigt
Well, actions speak louder than words, don't they? SO will dock my account magic internet points if someone finds the post "not helpful". So... it is in my name. Unless you can vote on the edit history, that little fine print does not mean anything. — nvoigt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gabriel Staples
I think I figured it out :): this question doesn't provide those 2 people the "very specific kind of puzzle" they were looking for, and "they didn't care if I got my question answered", "they didn't care if I got my question answered", "they didn't care if I got my question answered", because it wasn't fun for them. — Gabriel Staples 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Drew "Trying to add tag table indicates that there is no SO tag table. Huh?" implies you tried to add the tag table. If you didn't actually try that, I would recommend clarifying your post. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user000001
You're welcome, @Merlin. It is really easy of meta stack overflow participants to criticise SO questions, and they do it frequently and without much thought. Your question became popular because it had a title that was helpful for many google searchers. I still believe that that wjandrea shouldn't have high-jacked the topic, he should have posted an answer on the existing question if he wasn't satisfied with the answers posted so far. — user000001 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gabriel Staples
There are 259 votes too many (upvotes only, not downvotes) for the unfortunate truth this answer explains. — Gabriel Staples 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
The feature request that would have fixed this meta.stackexchange.com/questions/238647Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
@SecurityHound OP is using past-tense; it sounds like they're looking for help/explanation of a specific problem they got wrong on past exams and still don't understand, not attempting to cheat on a future test. (Well, unless they know this specific question will also be on future tests as well, I guess?) — BSMP 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JDB
@nvoigt - That has nothing to do with either copyright or content licensing. That is an entirely separate issue. As I said in my post, content authors, by custom, are given great deference for their posts. In my experience, mods lean toward the post author in case of a disagreement (unless the author is in violation of terms of service). Editors get no points and have little incentive to edit a post beyond just being helpful (or trying). — JDB 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
Confused that a question, that was asked on every exam a professor gave, was so difficult the author never asked the professor’s help with it. I have no faith the question will be well researched and not just a copy and paste of the question without a single line of code. I could be wrong, still consider it, borderline academic dishonesty. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
Just another notch on the belt of tightening cost at the expense of the community. Have to inflate that net revenue if the company is to be sold in the next few years. Expect more features to be dropped and a shrink in the workforce. Growing companies expand... sinking ones throw things overboard. — Travis J 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Merlin
If @wjandrea really want to, he could written his self answered question. SO never would have stopped him. What got to him was the old question was highly rated. Again before the mods removed much of the content, the answer was the reason it was popular -- not the question. He "stole" the title and question, and now the rep points. In so much as care about rep points, I dont. I havent read the answer LTDR, if doesnt introduce integer division, all resulting code will the "wrong answer." Thanks again. — Merlin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
You'd be surprised what some people expect. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drew
@TylerH: As I said, "you cannot add that tag, even though the UI tells you that it's an existing tag". I'd recommend that instead of shooting the messenger SO fix its site. This particular part of the UI, at least, is clearly broken. — Drew 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MEren
@BSMP Yes,he asks a similar question in every exam and says that there has been no full score for that question nearly 15 years. And he never tells the real solution. — MEren 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MEren
It only allows you to ask the logic, not the coding. It already requires pseudo code and running time. — MEren 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Sounds like it's trying to test your knowledge, not ours. When such unique questions are publicly promoted on a site like SO, they become far less useful at performing their job. — Kevin B 48 secs ago
 
7:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Folks, I have to remind that we are under no obligation to act as users' conscience. If the question follows the guidelines, it should be allowed without consideration of external factors. The fact that the professor keeps asking the same question every year is no concern of ours. We also have no precognition about the question quality - if it does not adhere to the guidelines, it will be dealt with accordingly. — Oleg Valter 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I have a hard time believing that the question, as you describe it, would be able to be converted into a question that would be on topic on SO. Some other stack, maybe, if there's bits and pieces of it that can be tweaked into on topic questions. but, the way you describe it, it's an open-ended question with no real 100% correct solution. — Kevin B 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joundill
@TylerH I think you're probably right. — Joundill 7 secs ago
 
8:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JDB
While I agree with you in theory, it's a bit like saying that the UN is the place for nations to iron out their disputes; yet wars still happen when one or another refuses to yield to consensus. If the author of the post will absolutely not allow their title to be changed, even after a discussion on Meta, then what? Should mods "enforce" the consensus by suspending an active and helpful user over disagreement over a title? In this particular case, I would not think it helpful to push things that far. — JDB just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JDB
However, +1 for pointing out the role of Meta. This is the right place to have these discussions, not in the original posts comments or through edit battles. — JDB just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@MEren - What exactly is “it”? — Security Hound 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
If the case is about the quality of a highly-trafficked post, yes, it's in the interest of the network as a whole to have that post in the best state it can be, regardless of what the author wants. It's why we also don't let authors just delete or deface their content. — Kevin B 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@Oleg - I am certainly under an obligation to follow my own moral code. — Security Hound 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Sure, as am I :) But we are both under no obligation (or are in the right) to preemptively tell a user not to submit a valid post, that's what is what my comment was about. Our only concern is whether a post is a valuable contribution to the knowledge base - whether the OP stands to benefit from posting such a question is out of our jurisdiction. — Oleg Valter 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Good luck enforcing that — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
No one spoke of enforcement here - posting a question or not is for the author to decide. I just want them to know that there is nothing wrong with asking a question from an exam as long as it follows the guidelines. If it will not - sure, but we cannot know that until the question is posted. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JDB
@KevinB - So in this case, in an alternate universe where the author did not relent, would you advocate for a suspension or for locking the post? The author was, after all, really trying to find a square root, so the title was not wholly wrong. Would you ban a 21k user over 10-year-old hair-splitting? Or would you lock the post and prevent any future improvement? Would it not be better to allow them to continue contributing useful content and just close this one disputed question and write up a better one? — JDB 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Lock it. That's why we have locks. This rollback war has been going on for years. — Kevin B 41 secs ago
 
8:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
You can see your own flagging stats in your profile, but you can't see others. That script assigns a status to the user based on their flagging history, it's nothing official. — Kevin B 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
related bug report on MSE as per @KevinB's comment about flagging stats for others — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
There is no hidden page. This script isn't that useful and on the contrary some mods don't like it as it prevents user from casting risky flags. The percentage of helpful flags doesn't matter that much — Dharman 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
More on point, no, the script just fetches the https://<site host>/users/flag-summary/<your user id here>, parses it, extracts the totals, then calculates your tier via the ` calculateFlagTier` function. If you are a mod, it allows you to see the tier of another user if you are on their profile page. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
There is an unofficial "ranking" list maintained somewhere on GitHub, but I am feeling a bit too lazy right now to go hunting for it... — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
Whatever you post, make sure the licence of the content permits you to post it. Don't post other people's content without their permission. — khelwood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
It's there in the script in that function; "Elite" is ((fPerc < 0.2 && fTotal >= 10000) || (fPerc < 0.1 && fTotal >= 5000)) IOW, percentage (of declined flags) less than 20% and total flags greater than or equal to 10000, or percentage less than 10% and total flags greater than or equal to 5000... and so on. Just another set of boxes to put people in :P. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@HereticMonkey I mean, I remember someone maintaining a list similar to reputation leagues but for helpful flags, but can't, for the love of all things holy, remember where I've seen it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Slava Medvediev
Developer story was a cool feature. sad to know you're dropping it. — Slava Medvediev 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
As much as I agree that inserting images of text isn't an improvement, I'm curious about what the answer would be for a more general case where the image actually added something useful to the post. — BSMP 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@WaiHaLee yes, this, thank you so much for the reference! :) — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@OlegValter Do you mean my website? flaggers.dharman.netDharman 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@Dharman actually, I've only seen the gist maintained on GitHub before, but yeah, that works too, thank you ^_^ — Oleg Valter 32 secs ago
 
9:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
This is already reported on meta.SE. But honestly there are far worse problems, like the fact that post score are now very de-emphasised and in smaller text. The whole point of posts having scores is to make useful posts easier to find... — kaya3 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Oh man, this is 12 days old already? Has there been something about this redesign on SO's meta? — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@SteveSummit Surprise coincidence: running a SELECT SUM(Reputation) FROM Users query on the SEDE gives a result to very close to this 1.8billion. On this reason, we can estimate that 1 rep ≈ 1$. However, fact is that we all knew it even without numbers, and we were here on our own. Furthermore, we have also learnt a lot here. — peterh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
"There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now."kaya3 13 secs ago
 
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