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12:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael Potter
Is there a query that will tell me the time that the delete votes were cast on a particular question? — Michael Potter 1 min ago
 
12:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
I had trouble scrolling a few minutes ago. A few weeks ago nothing loaded on Main. — JL2210 1 min ago
 
12:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@HashRocketSyntax none of the questions you flagged with VLQ were garbage. Off topic != garbage. Example you flagged: stackoverflow.com/questions/57936907/…Martijn Pieters ♦ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@chrispbacon 4 moderators != half of 25 moderators. Your grasp of why we decline VLQ flags on posts that are merely off-topic is as misinformed as your basic math skills appear to be! — Martijn Pieters ♦ 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
VLQ is not a super-closevote. See VLQ as a nuclear option instead, for when a post just needs to be deleted ASAP but isn’t spam or rude and abusive. Asking to convert code to C# is not something that needs deleting ASAP, it just needs closing. Someone posted the results of headbanging their keyboard would be, because that’s just garbage, it will never be edited into a proper question. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
Just don't copy the final slash and any number after it. — JL2210 1 min ago
 
1:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GeneCode
@EternalHour And make my homework for me. — GeneCode 1 min ago
 
 
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2:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by HashRocketSyntax
@MartijnPieters It's just an ambiguous tag and it's clearly causing problems. As a product manager and SO power user, please trust me when I say that this is an easy fix that you want to make. The fact that a user had to make this original post to bring this problem to the team's attention in the first place means that the team is either out of touch or not looking at measurements of the flags + the fact that the the team is defending the source of the problem after the fact signals that they are even more out of touch. Listen to the feedback and adjust. — HashRocketSyntax 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stephen C
I don't think you should be lenient on late answers that add nothing. For the high rep users who still care about curating the good Q&As, those answers are pestiferous. And hard work to get rid of. Besides, we >>do<< need to teach new users to direct their enthusiasm in constructive directions. — Stephen C 40 secs ago
 
 
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4:08 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Myers
"Am I going to have to cave and build actual tools for this?" - Do you mean build the tools that Jon was asking for or build chatbots to ask you to build the tools? Sadly, the chatbots may be a lot easier. — Andrew Myers 1 min ago
 
 
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5:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Elin Questions should only be migrated to other sites if they are off-topic where they’re asked. Moderators regularly rejected migration requests for questions that are on-topic for Stack Overflow. The fact that you think one could get a better answer elsewhere isn’t the migration criteria that we follow. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Both? Was kind of a joke at my own expense, since I won't have Jon to remind me @andrew :-/ — Shog9 ♦ 10 secs ago
 
 
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6:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
People use SE sites to get their questions answered. If they knew that internal SE incentives were not aligned with getting them to the place where the question will get the best answer, isn't that a reason not to use SE? — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
7:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
You don't need a query, just look at the timeline. — rene 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Visual Vincent
[ Boson ] New comment posted by unperson325680
@dessert I guess I just have to wait until I get the Room. Probably very busy these days. — unperson325680 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Visual Vincent
 
7:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mplungjan
Thanks. Interestingly the tab just says "NEW" — mplungjan 11 secs ago
 
7:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YellowAfterlife
Certainly not (it was already month old when I've seen it in audit), but maybe take it out of review audit rotation if anyone has that power - review audits are supposed to be black and white. A slightly more meta question would be "why isn't there a review queue for picking review audits" — YellowAfterlife 1 min ago
 
8:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
Flagged your comment for harassment and will complain officially about you @MartijnPieters — chris p bacon 1 min ago
 
8:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Why should that post be removed from audit? It is clearly a bad question, spam or not. Voting "unsalvageable" is the right move in both cases. — Tom 1 min ago
 
 
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10:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jaco
@Shog9 Really ? — Jaco 32 secs ago
 
10:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe the transgirl
@GeorgeJempty ... we don't close these as duplicates. They aren't duplicates, and will never be. — Zoe the transgirl 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@HashRocketSyntax you really don’t have to tell me that. I’m no SO developer so I can’t do anything about the flag anyway. My views on the flag align quite well with Cody here: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/357344. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shadow
Tone is indeed hard to decipher online, and sarcasm doesn't translate well into languages that lack the concept so in general I agree with that as a standard especially when dealing directly with users. That said, it's not like it took long to diffuse the confusion either... — Shadow 12 secs ago
 
11:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
 
11:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Do strongly upvoted questions really need to be deleted? After all there is still closing available and it's hardly imaginable that these questions are actively harmful. — Trilarion 14 secs ago
 
12:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tripleee
The OP is asking for measurable impact, not opinions on the CoC. Flagging as NAA. — tripleee 1 min ago
 
1:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Das_Geek
Ah, thanks for pointing that out. Yeah, OP didn't want the max of the keys lol. I should have seen that myself. I'll shut up and take my lumps now. — Das_Geek 1 min ago
 
1:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andy K
Hi @JonClements, I read that you are leaving. For the time on SO, your guidance and your patience that helped many of us technically but more of all, to feel welcome in the python community, thank you although this thank you seems to me , very minor. Man, you will be missed. Again, if we meet one day, beers are on me. — Andy K 30 secs ago
 
2:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ab2
I read the edit history and the whole of the Q & As "what is so bad about Nancy?". Sounds like 2nd grade recess. — ab2 1 min ago
 
2:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S&#233;bastien Renauld
Somebody still needs to come out and explain how Bob is a gender-neutral name, particularly Uncle Bob as mentioned in the edit notes. — Sébastien Renauld 32 secs ago
 
2:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elin
It's also off topic for SO. — Elin 1 min ago
 
3:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
cis is political/offensive or not depending on context. Same for trans and almost everything. Someone might wish to write a FAQ explaining when cis is political/offensive. But we all know how that ends up. — Jose Antonio Dura Olmos 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
I agree with tripleee, this is not an answer to the question posted. NAA. — halfer 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Varo
You literally changed lives matey -- I know you did because you did mine and I'm not exaggerating here! Although that happened years before you became a moderator. You had a fantastic influence on the culture of the communities we've both been part of. You never had to pull rank because your example, your attitude and patience were enough and silently changed the mentality of others. Of course your resignation will change none of these, I know you will remain the same amazing influencer, but from SO's perspective it is an unmeasurable loss. All the best, Your R.A.B.B.I.T.'s designer. — Peter Varo 1 min ago
 
3:42 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by arnt
If I might offer a suggestion... Chrome has a new auto-darkness switch, so you'll soon get a dark mode, even if you didn't ask for it, even if you don't test it. My suggestion is that you either accept it as a fait accompli and add it to your testing regime, or else you try a somewhat rude override, e.g. @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {} to disable it completely. — arnt 24 secs ago
 
4:18 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by camille
In the case of regex, wouldn't the language be important, since some flags or use cases will work differently between languages? Even though some aspects should be language-agnostic — camille 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mast
airship.com would be the logical choice, it seems. — Mast 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Step down as a moderator? Or step down as a moderator and as an (active) user? "It's been great being on this site (diamond or not)..." suggests the latter. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
Just the former @PeterMortensen — Jon Clements 26 secs ago
 
5:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by x15
Thanks for thoughtfull consideration ... — x15 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mat
How many times have you asked this question already? — Mat 1 min ago
 
5:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael Potter
Here is a former moderator's opinion of deleting content: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/286970/192044Michael Potter just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"Snapshot of the Regex Tag Page [...] imgur.com/a/jRexNUq This should not be possible." I fail to see the problem. Judging from the titles in the screenshot alone, each of those questions has already been asked and answered multiple times. — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
5:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@CodyGray are flag that are insta-handled (comments flag, spam, etc.) counted in that stat? That could skew the number significantly lower. — Braiam 1 min ago
 
6:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
Yep and I support the network, which makes me unpopular on top of everything else. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I fully support the community team and all the effort they're making. Thanks for this. In a way it makes me more determined to return, as the popular view is not the only one that should be represented. — Yvette Colomb 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
To add, it's this kind of reaction on meta which turns many people away from the site, which is why the network is going to such lengths to instigate change. As it is a business - bottom line - and there's a massive user base that exists outside of the active meta user base. There's some deleted comments on here. One in particular stating if I return as mod they're going to do everything possible to have me removed + insult. And then people argue the site is not unwelcoming. Well luckily I resilient and will not be bullied off the site. — Yvette Colomb 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
The main difference is that the first answer has been reviewed by a mod and the second one was deleted by community members. Stack Overflow has an incredible lenient definition for what an answer is and what isn't. Mods need to adhere to that rule, but community members don't, so they can delete bad posts when there are enough members to support it. Your first answer was also "recommended for deletion" by a community member before a mod declined the flag. — Tom 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Matthew
I was unaware of that so thank you for that information. My review really came based on the flag being declined but if that's the case I'll take the temp ban from reviews. — Matthew 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
I skip answers as well when I do reviews (which I do very rarely these days), because I should say "looks ok" (due to the 'rules' on SO), but I won't put my name under such posts and call them ok. — Tom 21 secs ago
 
6:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
That's not a dating page, it is an image hoster with ads. And you don't need a mod here, you have 2k reputation so you can edit the question and for example upload the image to imgur.com. — Tom 14 secs ago
 
7:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
@tom for good reasons. xkcd.com/979 That oneliner, although not explained at all, might somewhen lead someone into the right direction ... — Jonas Wilms 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@JonasWilms I agree, I also search for gz packed scripts and then ignore all other answers explaining that and instead work with the answer which doesn't give a damn about packed scripts. — Tom 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
@tom yeah well but the moderator cannot judge the quality of the answer cause that would need technical expertise in every field. I'd downvote and move on. — Jonas Wilms 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by FZs
 
7:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by x15
This is my last time on SO. I wish I could have helped a lot, but it doesn't look like that expertise is needed here. Have a nice life. — x15 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
We're throwing out the baby with the bathwater here, no? — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
You may be being a bit rash in leaving, but your decision is yours alone, of course. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@JonasWilms That's what I tried to explain with my first comment. They are not required to have expertise on the subject matter, but also don't need to skip that review, because the rules for such answers are clear and in favor for them. Community members can have technical expertise, hence different outcome of "equal" answers. So I agree with you here. — Tom 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
@tom might write that up as an answer ... — Jonas Wilms 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@JonasWilms You won't believe how lazy I am. But I will support your answer if you want write one :). — Tom 1 min ago
 
8:16 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
Can you point me to the relevant piece within the code of conduct that allows its breach within certain contexts @jonaswilms? — chris p bacon 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
"I'm seeking a Stack Exchange official's response and the removal of the moderator in question" -- isn't this a bit of over-kill? Removal of moderator for this? — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
I can't speak for you, but I wouldn't use stuff like "half of" when I know I'm not good at math. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe the transgirl
What does your disability have to do with this? If you hypothetically didn't know how many mods there were and guesstimated half. Either way, I agree the comment is over the line, but your question could really use some rephrasing. It has a really aggressive feel to it. — Zoe the transgirl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YellowAfterlife
If the user fails an audit, the "this is what you should have done" will be shown to them during whatever interval of their suspension, and that's what they'll probably do next time (classical conditioning and all). Given the number of users already incorrectly flagging Triage reviews as "Requires editing" when additional information is required, I think maintaining a relatively "correct" pool of audits is important. Since there's no sense in moving a long-forgotten question out of spam and into "on hold", removing it from pool seems like a more reasonable of an option. — YellowAfterlife 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by snakecharmerb
Not being good at math is not, in itself, a disability. — snakecharmerb just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@HovercraftFullOfEels edited the part out, you're right. The comment and the declined flag should cause action though. — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
Ooch. That's...a bit over the line, yeah. Granted, your math is wrong, but it doesn't justify that sort of response. — fbueckert 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
So I need to have a real disability to be protected by the code of conduct, against a moderator? — chris p bacon 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
No, you don't need a disability -- you need to flag the comment and move on. Yes, the moderator was in the wrong, but no sense making a federal case over it. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe the transgirl
Let's just be clear here - what your "excuse" for being bad at math is, is irrelevant. Whether you're good at math, bad at math, can't read numbers, or calculate math like a calculator, that comment is still over the line. — Zoe the transgirl 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
@martinJames Now that's definetly harassment. — Jonas Wilms 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@MartinJames flagged for harrassement — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@HovercraftFullOfEels I did exactly this (see my edit). The flag was declined by another moderator. I would never have posted this, well knowing that it will only make the harrassement worse. The declined flag made it necessary though — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
Thanks @Zoethetransgirl, exactly what I'm talking about — chris p bacon 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
Really? You know that computers can do only very basic operations: move numbers, add them, change their sign and perform Boolean arithmetic? If you have a problem with your own processor/programs that prevents,you from performing basic arithmetic, my conclusion above,is not unreasonable. — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian
I think the mod's comment was fair! Using the phrase, "as good as … appear to be" is, as I understand the English language, a criticism of your action, not of your ability. — Adrian 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
@martinJames even "correct" harassment is still harassment. No need to prove any point here. — Jonas Wilms 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
I’m stepping out of the comments, waiting for a official response. — chris p bacon 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
You may describe what I posted as harrassment, but I challenge you to show it incorrect. — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sagar V
No we don't reject it. eg, Wiktor Stribiżew earned 100K+ rep in 1 year with regex as his major — Sagar V 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
Ahhhhhh. What?? — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
I would characterize it more as "unfriendly/unkind", and not so much "harassment" — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian
I find it very hard to believe that a user with a reputation score of 51.9K on SO really has a disability in basic maths (I'm English, so I spokes her language goodly!!). Maybe you're just 'trying it on'? — Adrian 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by vaultah
Wow, that's rude — vaultah 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
No @MartinJames Harassment is done within a single sentence — chris p bacon 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
It was one comment. I have not repeated it. It has been deleted. It is not possible to label that as harassment - that implies repeated actions. — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@chrispbacon no, not in any English language variant I use. — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm questioning your motivation for attacking a moderator. — Adrian 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@Adrian So I've helped too many people to be protected by the code of conduct? — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@HovercraftFullOfEels Even if it's just unfriendly - a moderator who's supposed to lead by example - is not supposed to use that kind of language — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
I’m not attacking a moderator. I’m attacking harassing behavior. It’s just worse since the bully has a lot of friends who let them slip through. — chris p bacon 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@chrispbacon I am not a moderator, I made an honest comment that was received unfavourably, I have, and will, not repeat it. — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@chrispbacon: I'm not disagreeing, but if I were in your shoes and created this post, I'd write the post first, sleep on it over night so as not to post anything in anger, and then edit and post it the next day, so that it were a bit more measured. More like -- "please double check that this flag was rejected correctly....". That's it. Your goal ultimate goal with this post should be to change behavior, not to inflame anger. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
With all that's been going on lately....is this really the battle you want to plant your flag on? — charlietfl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
Wow, I take massive exception to that. Have you ever experienced the effect of real bullying, cyber or physical? I suspect not, else you would not use the term in a inappropriate manner. — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S&#233;bastien Renauld
@charlietfl The core of the question (i.e. the comment and the fact that the comment in question definitely wasn't friendly or kind) is worthwhile; the call for removal isn't. — Sébastien Renauld 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S&#233;bastien Renauld
Heck, I'm reading the comments again and that second comment was completely unnecessary. The first one explains what a VLQ is; the second one is a gratuitous jab for... reasons, I guess? — Sébastien Renauld 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
One misplaced bad joke != harrasment — Erik A just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S&#233;bastien Renauld
@CindyMeister Yeah, and the way you deal with this is by flagging and moving on (as I have), not responding in kind. That's what flags are for. — Sébastien Renauld 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@CindyMeister no, surely not my intention — chris p bacon 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
I need a few beers... — Martin James 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
@SébastienRenauld I'd say a reaction to this OP's writing "I’d argue that everything with a non negative score won’t be handled correctly in the near future." in an earlier comment. In essence, accusing the moderators of doing a sloppy job. — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@SébastienRenauld exactly. — chris p bacon 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
@chrispbacon I'm just saying... And FWIW it's how I interpreted it when I read it. So, with the pressure people are currently under, perhaps understandable that a moderator could over-react. Not saying they should, just that it's possible. — Cindy Meister 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S&#233;bastien Renauld
@CindyMeister If a user overreacted that way I'm pretty sure the comment would be summarily deleted, not defended. Don't get me wrong - OP isn't exactly a saint either, but the ramp-up that has happened in that comment thread is honestly pretty terrible. — Sébastien Renauld 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
@SébastienRenauld And then the accusation of censorship could come up. If comments are cleaned up, people are angry; if comments are left, people take offense. A no-win situation, currently... — Cindy Meister 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James K Polk
I agree, but ... who declined the flag and why? Surely it was not declined because the comment was more "rude" than it was "harassing"? — James K Polk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S&#233;bastien Renauld
Again, the second comment is gratuitous noise. There's literally no other way to qualify it; it adds nothing to the conversation other than having created this question as a result. What exactly do you lose by removing it considering that the previous comment explains concisely and neutrally how and what a VLQ is? And the reason to not delete it is because people might get pissed? People already got pissed at this and this motive hasn't stopped any other comments from being deleted yet. — Sébastien Renauld 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
@SébastienRenauld Right or wrong it also involves a number of higher rep users that moderator knows have been around lots of snarky comments over the years and probably also had a high level of frustration over use of VLQ flag — charlietfl 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
@SébastienRenauld (Our comments are crossing...) I'm not defending, I started out merely by answering your surmise about "...jab for... reasons". — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Dvorak
@JonClements menu > history > find the video > hover > x — John Dvorak 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@JamesKPolk: Agree, and that can and should be asked in the initial meta post, but again tone matters as a more measured tone to the post would have eliminated most reflexive backlash. We're creatures of emotion first, logic second. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
How did you flag it? As "rude" or as "harassment"? — Modus Tollens 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S&#233;bastien Renauld
@JamesKPolk People make mistakes, yeah? Just like how the OP made a mistake in going completely ballistic on this question and calling for a removal. The real trick is to learn to de-escalate, which in this case, just means burying the hatchet, removing the noise and moving on. Moderator or not, user or not, high rep or not, it all boils down to the same thing. — Sébastien Renauld 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@Adrian: all true, and if so, then a factual recitation of that history should be spelled out in the original post. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian
@JamesKPolk Maybe (dunno) there is 'history' between OP and this mod? Also, maybe there are comments/remarks made in the referenced "relevant context" that have been removed/hidden/deleted (I don't have the rep for "Moderator Tools")? — Adrian 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
@Adrian The comments were all there at the start of this. I've just done some flagging, and I expect others may also be doing so, so they probably won't be there very long... — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian
@CindyMeister Also noticed that the 'posted by' thing has been blurred out in the OP's original question (and this has happened while this conversation has been happening). What does that mean? — Adrian 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
@Adrian It was originally like that in the question. I think the OP didn't want to show the person's name. — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by snakecharmerb
@Adrian it's usually done to avoid the poster of the "low quality" post receiving dozens of downvotes from users who found the post via meta (the "meta-effect") — snakecharmerb 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian
@Cindy OK, maybe I got confused with all the excitement? — Adrian 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
and regarding ... is completely wrong, there have been 4 upvotes between the time me flagging and me posting this question. That's the reason for the post today, not tomorrow. For the rest, I agree with what you are saying, but I had to post to stop the movement — chris p bacon 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@chrispbacon: what can I say? Sadly, people are not always kind — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@Adrian No history, no. He's completely unknown to me - can't remember any history — chris p bacon just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
I know - that's why only a few qualify as a moderator. If you can't be friendly no matter what, you're not a good moderator. Just look at the definition of moderator. — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@chrispbacon: I think that we need realistic standards. Even a moderator can have a slip up on occasion, perhaps a bad day, perhaps a fight with a spouse.. If this is regular event, then sure, get rid of them, but if it is one-off, correct it and avoid it in the future. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@chrispbacon: and again I think that you have every right to bring this issue up on meta. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
I agree 100%. The fact that his friends declined my flag makes an investigation necessary though. Otherwise we'll soon be where american police is against people of color. blue code... — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@JamesKPolk A cop that does a brilliant job is allowed to shoot somebody every now and then, following your logic? — chris p bacon 1 min ago
 
9:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheWanderer
@chrispbacon I'm not sure a moderator on a free-to-use website can really be compared to a police officer. — TheWanderer 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dale Burrell
I had the same thing. — Dale Burrell 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@TheWanderer: a volunteer moderator on a free-to-use website — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
Stack Exchange has chosen to bring the code of conduct in place and they have guaranteed on many occasions to protect its users according to it. Since a moderator - a user with a special status - broke it, this is a serious case. My lawyer is already in place and will, depending on the output of this question, take action. Now you know my motivation. — chris p bacon just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@chrispbacon oh come on now, don't kid a kidder. No lawyer would even get close to this sort of thing, not unless you agree to forgo contingency and pay them gobs of money up-front for them to represent you. You're making a mountain out of a molehill now. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@chrispbacon oh come on now, don't kid a kidder. No lawyer would even get close to this sort of thing, not unless you agree to forgo contingency and pay them gobs of money up-front for them to represent you. You're making a mountain out of a molehill now. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
Stack Exchange has chosen to bring the code of conduct in place and they have guaranteed on many occasions to protect its users according to it. Since a moderator - a user with a special status - broke it, this is a serious case. My lawyer is already in place and will, depending on the output of this question, take action. Now you know my motivation. — chris p bacon 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shree
Where is Martijn ? — Shree 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@Shree: a moderator response will come eventually — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
I’m dead serious. I want my community site back. The place I knew 3-4 years ago. — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@chrispbacon which is why you should bring up the issue on meta. But claiming the mantle of victimhood in the extreme will only serve to turn people against you and delay your getting support. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shree
I just want to say **Please don't judge my skill, If it's not suitable on site closed it / delete it, don't judge my skill ** — Shree 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
I can't extend the discussion now - all I can say is that the code of conduct doesn't bring privileges only, but also obligations to be followed by Stack Exchange. If you claim to protect your users, but later don't, that's a serious problem. At least in Europe where I'm located. A moderator - again, someone approved by the company breached it, and others jumped in to protect him / trying to put it under the carpet - that's something that asks for investigation. I have the money and love the community, and I believe that it's worth to double check if everything that goes on is good. — chris p bacon 21 secs ago
 
10:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TGrif
Sorry, what is your question? — TGrif 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Baum mit Augen
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. — Baum mit Augen ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@baummitaugen please reconsider your censorship — chris p bacon 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Baum mit Augen
The comments are not censored, they were moved to a place that is more apt for the ongoing back and forth discussion at hand. Some comments were removed because they were either unfriendly or obsolete, the rest is available in the chat linked above. — Baum mit Augen ♦ 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Script47
Is the person who's question it is supposed to see the actual number of votes or not? — Script47 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
@baummitaugen no problem, we have screenshoots already. Keep in mind that your action causes them to be much less visible — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@chrispbacon: before making "push under the carpet" claims about the comments understand that comments are by their nature ephemeral and that anything of true import should be stated in the question and the answers. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
It’s a push under the carpet situation since the first mod decided to decline my flag — chris p bacon 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S&#233;bastien Renauld
@chrispbacon Calm down; you can click the link to the chat to see the history. Throwing stuff at people, particularly when Martijn's comment has been deleted, isn't helping your case at this point. — Sébastien Renauld 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Depends on where they are in the test, @script — Shog9 ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris p bacon
You can be sure that this will not stop here. I will not start to let me be discriminated by someone who thinks he got power because he’s a internet moderator. — chris p bacon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alec Alameddine
I think I finally found a post where I think the mods are in the right — Alec Alameddine 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@chrispbacon by strongly playing the put-upon victim, you are turning people against you which is not what you want, I think and which will lead to a vicious cycle where your actions lead to criticisms of such actions which leads to more sense of victimization. My advice (which I know you haven't asked for): stop. Disengage and wait 48 hours to see if a moderator posts an answer to this thread. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
Note: I have tried to remove the word "bigot" from the above post, as I think it does you no favours, and may in itself constitute abusive conduct on your part. However, since it has been rolled back, I shall allow others to edit it out again if they wish. — halfer 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Script47
@Shog9 sorry, I'm not following. I'm seeing a 0 on a question of mine which is +3/-5 so I'm wondering if it's working as intended. — Script47 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alec Alameddine
Being incorrect isn't a reason to close a post though. Downvote, sure, but I agree that no action is neededAlec Alameddine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
That just means you're in one of the test groups, @Script47 — Shog9 ♦ 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
One person said something rude to me! I declare WAR! — JL2210 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Script47
@Shog9 oh, I thought I remembered reading somewhere that OP would see the actual results of the voting? Is that not the case? — Script47 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
@JL2210: you have small hands! Wotcha gonna do about it? :=)halfer 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
I'd probably add to this that for an action to qualify as harassment, it has to happen several times. The word is in danger of having its meaning changed to "behaviour which I don't like". — halfer 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
@JL2210: indeed. Through this post I hope to change the question author's mind about which direction to take. — halfer 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
I see bullet points 1, 5, and 7 here. I don't see any bullet points after the "Or, they can:" here. — JL2210 1 min ago
 

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