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1:22 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Phil
I'd actually prefer the opposite - detect when a Stack Snippet has been used for unrunnable code and turn it into a standard code block — Phil 1 min ago
 
2:08 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Nick is tired
I don't understand why you've mentioned editing as a defence for bullets 1, 2 and 4. The fact that they can be edited to resolve issues does not mean that they shouldn't just be closed. It is the OPs responsibility to get their posts in an acceptable state. Closing informs them that they're not. So the argument that they're "easily fixable" is totally irrelevant, they still qualify for closure under the given reason. — Nick is tired 17 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@Nick in general, whenever a question is straightforwardly editable into a focused, on-topic, how-to question, that was very clearly what the asker actually wanted. They want to know how to do the thing, so such an edit preserves their intent. Typically, in such questions, libraries or tutorials are just mentioned in passing, and are not the main point of the question; the asker would be equally happy with code that implements the thing without a library or needing to follow a link to an off-site tutorial (and in some cases, it is only mentioned as something they're open to). — Ryan M ♦ 46 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Nick is tired
@RyanM I get that, but I fail to see why it's any curator's responsibility to fix that over just closing and moving on until OP edits it themselves. — Nick is tired 36 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ryan M
Also, Stack Overflow isn't a help desk; it's a reference. If clear what is being asked for, and that would be useful if it just used the correct words in the question, then preventing that question from being answered until it goes through a somewhat tedious process is counterproductive for the site's goal as a reference. [Community edits exist for exactly the purpose of allowing improvements that don't require additional information that only the asker can easily provide (such as details needed to make the question answerable, the original text of screenshots). — Ryan M ♦ 32 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@Nick Well, part of the problem a lot of people really seize on the words "library", "tutorial", etc. and will close almost any question that uses them, even if it does ask how to do the task (after all, an answer is just a short tutorial). [cont'd] — Ryan M ♦ 44 secs ago
 
 
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5:32 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by chivracq
My 2ct-feedback after following this saga for 24h: I think I (finally) more or less understood the Scenario/Requirements after many-many Comments and Edits (here on 'Meta' and on 'Main'), but hum, your "Plan" is to write an (academic?) "Paper" about some _ Algorithm_ that you don't have yet, and you are asking the 'SO'-Community to concoct that Algorithm for you... You should be "the Specialist" already in this area, I would expect, while you apparently don't/didn't even know the "right" terms to use to define and describe your Scenario precisely... Hum, real Use Case...? — chivracq 45 secs ago
 
6:05 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Dominique
If your company has a problem with IMGUR, why doesn't your company contact IMGUR instead of StackOverflow? — Dominique 53 secs ago
 
 
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7:29 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Two
Thank you very much Machavity, this is a big help for my Capstone project. — Two 1 min ago
 
8:04 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Thom A
This is, probably, one of those times where this is an "answer" in there if you remove the noise: "[Use a] WebUSB API [that] lets you print some text with a USB-attached printer. You'll just have to format your own string and feed it to the encoder." — Thom A 44 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Cuzy
Sounds like an answer, although I'd appreciate if the link would take me to the actual "snippet" that he spoke of, not to the entire github project. That or he can just post the "snippet" inside the answer — Cuzy 48 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
@ThomA you typed the answer in the comment box ... — rene 28 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by André
@Cuzy My intention flagging this was exactly that, why not add the snippet to the answer? Its just bad UX not to. — André 23 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
answers with links to the answer are considered not an answer. No, that is not what we consider to be not an answer on the link-only definition. See meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/265552/…rene 54 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
I don't understand what you are asking here. You cannot "re-flag a declined "not an answer" flag with a link to the answer?" since NAA does not take any extra information. Or do you mean that the answer you want to flag links to the actual answer? In that case, you seem to be asking "should I re-flag a declined flag" and that's obviously "no". — MisterMiyagi 22 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Cuzy
That's fair, but wouldn't flagging lead to the answer being deleted? I'd rather leave a comment asking the person to add the snippet to the answer, stating that links could break over time. — Cuzy 1 min ago
 
8:41 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
It is worth mentioning that the accept vote of the OP caused the pending LQA review to be invalidated, leading to a decline of your flag: meta.stackexchange.com/a/329080rene just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Thom A
That happens even when the author of the question answers their own question, @rene ? That feels less desirable. — Thom A 6 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
@ThomA I don't mind, it is a great trick to get those angry, persistent flaggers of my back. — rene 26 secs ago
 
9:38 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by VLAZ
long standing issue with the tables. Typically you need to add extra blank lines before/after them. Yet, the preview doesn't need them. — VLAZ 13 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Gimby
It really helps to translate NAA to "Not an Attempt to Answer". Calling it "Not An Answer" is just one of Stack Overflow's many wonderful ways to make it as ambiguous and conflicting as possible. Everyone makes up their own laundry list of rules when an answer is an answer. This is a pretty poor attempt to answer, plain and simple. — Gimby 6 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karan Shishoo
@VLAZ ahh thank you for informing me, first time I actually ran into it, any specific reason as to why the preview seems to be able to render without issue but the actual question does not format properly ? — Karan Shishoo 51 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by VLAZ
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ different markdown renderers or something. There have been other mismatches in the past. Maybe there still are. But the tables are a huge problem, other mismatches might be negligible. — VLAZ 27 secs ago
 
 
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11:46 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Gimby
"C++ is a separate language, but was created as an extension of C" - the latter doesn't matter anymore, it is just trivia. It is a separate language. A VERY separate language. — Gimby 22 secs ago
 
11:56 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karan Shishoo
ran into this bug today, still there in 2024. — Karan Shishoo 19 secs ago
 
 
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2:00 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Gimby
@Mark I can't argue or judge because I can't see your question, but you are probably right anyway. It changes nothing though. It was way too easy to ask any old question and earn buckets of reputation points when the site was young because it was empty and rules were lax; that situation has flipped. It is now too full and everything is hard, especially asking well-received questions. Draw your own conclusions from it. — Gimby 47 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Rohit Pandey
This is a small part of a larger problem. I have the algorithm for the larger problem implemented. I am the specialist on what I asked and weather it can be answered or not. Keep the hums to yourself. — Rohit Pandey 45 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Rohit Pandey
The primary purpose of this website should be helping people. If you don't want to do that, just get on with your day.. do something else productive and positive. — Rohit Pandey 44 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Rohit Pandey
@Mark I addressed all your points. Is the question still unclear? — Rohit Pandey 59 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Gimby
I don't want to write it as an answer (yet), but the answer based on history is "No.". Because the company is not focusing on what you want at all. It is focusing on getting more user interactions, not better user interactions. Hence we get discussions, the proving grounds and some questionable experiments with voting. But not for example, fixes to long-running problems. — Gimby 35 secs ago
 
2:55 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Mark Ransom
How did you get a link to that "recent messages pages"? I'm unable to find mine, I was only able to get to it by modifying the link you produced for John Gordon. — Mark Ransom 19 secs ago
 
3:06 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Makyen
@MarkRansom It's the "recent" tab within your chat profile pages. — Makyen ♦ 45 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Mark Ransom
That was my question, how do I find the chat profile pages? I can't locate it in my profile anywhere. — Mark Ransom 48 secs ago
 
3:20 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Makyen
Personally, I user a userscript to add links to the user's chat profiles to each user's main and meta profile pages. That userscript is a modified version of "Add link to network and chat profiles". — Makyen ♦ 31 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Makyen
@MarkRansom Unfortunately, chat is not that well integrated into the main/meta sites. You have to go to the chat server, then click on your username or avatar, which can be found in any of: the topbar, to the left of the input box at the bottom of the page, or in the list of users in a room in the right sidebar. For the later two locations, clicking opens a popup, which has a link to your profile. There are three chat servers, chat.SO, chat.SE, and chat.MSE. — Makyen ♦ 47 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Mark Ransom
To be honest, it's kind of hard to find links to the chat servers as well. It's almost like a secret feature. — Mark Ransom just now
 
3:45 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Michael come lately
Step 3: Profit? Or is that further down? — Michael come lately 17 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Clive
The primary purpose is helping people. It’s just those “people” are everyone who might need an answer in the future, not just you, the person who provides the question. Sometimes helping those people means closing questions, which is both a productive and a positive act. — Clive 17 secs ago
 
4:15 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
@MarkRansom We have a place for undiscoverable features like logout button? A link to Chat can be found there as well. — rene 9 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
"My expectation is to be redirected to the list of discussions" that doesn't happen for questions either, why should there be a redirect on that? — Abdul Aziz Barkat 23 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Why would TensorFlow have been listed as a language before, when it's clearly a library? — Karl Knechtel 56 secs ago
 
4:43 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Zoe is on strike
Obligatory and explicit note that Vim and Neovim are, in fact, different editors. One is not a distribution of the other, even though they share parts of the same name. Neovim is based on Vim, but is a separate project with separate development goals, features, and configuration systems. (Additional obligatory note that I'm not saying cafce25 meant to remove either vim or neovim, but we've had more than enough misunderstandings when compiling this list in the past, so this is to make sure the company doesn't misinterpret this answer as "remove neovim too") — Zoe is on strike ♦ 17 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
What happens when you flag a question for spam that gets instantly deleted due to n flags and you don't have the rep to see deleted question? does it to go to a 404? i'd consider both cases sub-par. A successful action should never leave you on a 404 page. — Kevin B 37 secs ago
 
5:14 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by cafce25
There is no automatic closing of questions, in this case a SME has closed the linked question as a duplicate. — cafce25 just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Zoe is on strike
"I tried to reopen it, but no avail" - that's because it still needs two more reopen votes to reopen, and it's only been 9 hours. It hasn't received a single review from the reopen queue yet either, because there's a significant backlog — Zoe is on strike ♦ 48 secs ago
 
5:51 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by user4581301
Often if you ask the first question well, the answers to the second question will be implied by the answers to the first. Start with one question, if it winds up answering everything, you don't have to worry about bots or people harshing your buzz. — user4581301 42 secs ago
 
6:01 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
In the closed question, I read: "I have 2 issues that I can't get right: On my phone (Safari on iOS) the Figures increase in size when touched on. I like that, since there is no hover... but they stay permanently large -- I would like another touch to shrink them again (only on the phone)". It isn't clear to me how you've actually "split" the question (since you are still explicitly talking about "2 issues"), nor how they are supposed to be distinguished from each other. — Karl Knechtel 46 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Sam Thomas
@orionrush is right, it doesn't affect any other stack sites. just SO. For example, this meta website does not have a dark theme. but converts to dark beautifully when edge tries to. — Sam Thomas 28 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Sam Thomas
@AndrewT. I think its the other way around.. native dark themes conflict. see above comment. — Sam Thomas 1 min ago
 
6:17 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Sam Thomas
@Makyen edited answer to include image — Sam Thomas 40 secs ago
 
6:32 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
Acceptance doesn't prevent deletion by 20k users. It only prevents self-deletion by the post author. — TylerH 13 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@KevinB Only diamond and Discussions moderators can see deleted discussions. So when spam gets deleted that page is no longer accessible. If I remember correctly even for normal Q/A, if the user doesn't have 10K and makes an action that deletes the post then they will also get 404. I even think post can vanish with 404 even if you are merely reading it. — Dalija Prasnikar ♦ 7 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Clive
Helping people is the primary purpose of this website. Part of that is closing content that is unlikely to be useful to a wide audience, which is part of how we (productively and positively) maintain a high quality resource. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking “helping” means “getting me what I immediately want or need”. That’s not what we’re doing here. — Clive 55 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by halfer
Excellent community work Mark. Let me know if you need a hand with the sigs. — halfer 1 min ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
@halfer No need; I've zapped 'em all. I just hope nobody gets grumpy at me for bumping dozens of old questions. I know there are people who dislike rapid bulk edits because they have that effect... but I'm never sure what else one can reasonably do! — Mark Amery 50 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Rohit Pandey
All you did here was drop in some condescending hums and wasted every ones time. I can assure you, it helped absolutely on one. On a side note, looping through tuples in a cartesian product in a certain order is in fact very likely to be useful to other people in the future. It has shown up in my work multiple times. — Rohit Pandey 18 secs ago
 
6:54 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by halfer
Great work. I think with the rate they were being added, and despite prevailing advice, we can get a pass for bulk editing. I too am careful of it, but I push a bit harder if I think the OP needs a helpful nudge. — halfer 31 secs ago
 
7:09 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by user4581301
No one gives Multi-Edit the respect it deserves. Bought a copy back in '97 and still using it. — user4581301 30 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I mean, i'm aware of how it works for discussions, but thanks for the info on questions! yeah i think both cases are quite poor and due to be improved. — Kevin B 58 secs ago
 
7:45 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Security Hound
I don't see any comment suggesting you break the question into two separate questions. Your original question also wasn't closed. — Security Hound 51 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@KarlKnechtel They have regularly listed things like that incorrectly over the years. — TylerH 32 secs ago
 
 
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9:58 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Rohit Pandey
@Clive - Looping through tuples in a cartesian product in a certain order is in fact very likely to be useful to other people in the future. The idea that "it's unlikely to be useful to a wide audience" is frankly ridiculous. Just Google cartesian product looping and you'll get all manner of hits like this: geeksforgeeks.org/python-construct-cartesian-product-tuple-l‌​ist It has also shown up in my work multiple times. Let's be honest, no one has done a wide review of the current and future state of algorithm problems in the world when they say it won't. — Rohit Pandey 10 secs ago
 
10:35 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ryan M
"The first flag was invalidated by OP accepting it" That's not a thing that happens. The flag was declined by a moderator. (which means that you shouldn't just reflag with VLQ or a custom flag with no additional explanation; clearly, the handling moderator is not understanding the reason for the flag, so you should explain in more detail) — Ryan M ♦ just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ryan M
Also, please consider that answers are generally written by humans trying to help (yes, I know, there's a lot of AI crap, but this isn't that), and that describing their efforts as "disgusting" is maybe overly harsh. — Ryan M ♦ 26 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@rene you are mistaken. While acceptance may invalidate reviews, it does not decline NAA flags (not sure about VLQ). This flag was declined by a moderator. — Ryan M ♦ 56 secs ago
 
11:14 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by ggorlen
"On my phone (Safari on iOS) the Figures increase in size when touched on. I like that, since there is no hover... but they stay permanently large -- I would like another touch to shrink them again (only on the phone)". This sounds like one issue, and it's a bit broad and off-topic. It's a work order ("implement this for me"), rather than a technical question (e.g. "why is it that when I attempted to implement permanent largeness, the code throws an invalid FooBar error?"). — ggorlen 1 min ago
 

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