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20:00
@JanDvorak LOL no, its only one dev, the other is a coworker who isnt a tech person yet knows more than her
Abhishek in the corner still cracks me up
he was just helping her because he felt bad
if she came to the chat, id be surprised she even found it
like I sound like a huge dick right now... but she doesnt even know what basic things are like FTP
What's her job?
web developer :? she put her 2 weeks in on Monday though.. FINALLY
<input type="text" name="<% name %>" value="<% val%>" maxlength="<% val%>" />
20:01
@rlemon LOLOL dude I had no idea Abishek was on there, should make it the bald vs
One question: what would she do if she found out? If you're not willing to face the latter, don't do the former.
@Loktar this is example code from a girl I used to work with: maybe we've worked with the same chick.
@Loktar How does she upload anything to servers?
see if you can spot the issue.
20:02
@MrD we use IIS and just have mapped drives
@rlemon max val and value ?
yup - and this was a grading system
so if you assigned a grade of 0 as a base, you could never enter values (including the default '0') to the field.
haha
she spent a day fixing it
when she leaves Ill post some of her code.. its really terrible, which normally idc whatever. But she gets paid like 82k a year so its utterly ridiculous. It pisses me off how incompetent she is.
I reported these types of bugs from her to her lead - he just moved her to a less critical project.
20:04
@Loktar gratz
yeah thats what they have been doing with her here, she gets put on busy work projects
@Loktar dude i'll totally take her job for like 3/4 of her pay
I wish we could hire you man :( also ty @FlorianMargaine :)
I'll take her job for 1/4 of her pay.
@Loktar does your company insist on being a US cit?
j/w
20:04
I'll take her job for... wait, I'm not american
the problem here is they dont do tech interviews, if you have a top secret clearance and know what a computer is you're qualified. @rlemon yeah
!!/urban j/w
@FlorianMargaine j/w just wondering
pfft, I'm a Canadian.. What secrets am I going to steal?
@Loktar and how do you get a "top secret clearance"?
20:05
"Look guys we can now launch scuds from our canoe!"
its such a catch 22, basically you have to either join the military or get really lucky and a company gets it for you
but they cost around 100k, so most companies will not do that for you.
pfft, show them boob shower ;)
@Loktar and how did she get it?
20:06
i'm in!
@FlorianMargaine tbh, because shes a female and got really lucky getting her last job.
@Loktar oh, so having a top secret clearance is just a matter of money...
She got her clearance from her last gov job.
@FlorianMargaine kind of, its a matter of money for the company really, so theyd rather hire someone who already has one.
20:07
It's the states - political standings directly correlates to the amount of liquidatable assets you own.
In canada it is how well you make a poutine
What's a poutine?
in Russia its how well you know Putin :P
only the best thing ever!
Mmm... poutine
Poutine (; , Quebec French:) is a Canadian dish from Quebec, made with french fries, topped with brown gravy and curd cheese. Sometimes additional ingredients are added. Poutine is a fast food dish that originated in Quebec and can now be found across Canada, and is also found in some places in the northern United States. It is sold by national and international fast food chains, in small "greasy spoon" type diners (commonly known as "cantines" or "casse-croûtes" in Quebec) and pubs, as well as by roadside chip wagons (commonly known as "cabanes à patates", literally meaning "potato...
20:08
In this code: var obj = { "foo": "bar" };.
Oh, it's like a Canadian garbage plate.
Is { "foo": "bar" } JSON?
fries covered in cheese covered in gravy
and Mike, read the article. it originated here - I wouldn't call french fries "greasy french sticks"
@MikeNolan ... you know of garbage plates? Are you a Rochesterian?
@ŠimeVidas if you treat it as a string, yes
20:09
@RyanKinal Born and raised there.
@JanDvorak What?
I mean in the exact code above.
@MikeNolan Nice. I went to school at Geneseo. I've been up to the area 3 out of the last 4 weeks.
ugh - I googled "garbage plate"
@rlemon LOL
we call that "slop" or pig feed
20:10
@SomeKittens is in the Rochester area too
It's delicious don't diss it.
@rlemon Yeah... that's what I thought. Then I tried one. And yes, it is delicious.
@ŠimeVidas in var a={ "foo": "bar" } it's an object literal. In var a='{ "foo": "bar" }', it's JSON.
looks like a KFC bowl
^ watch
(watching)
20:11
@JanDvorak In the code var obj = { "foo": "bar" };, is { "foo": "bar" } JSON? Yes, or no?
Other opinions?
it's an object literal using JSON syntax
C'mon guys, I need at least 3 answers....
@ŠimeVidas Not an opinion. Fact.
20:12
However, if sent over the wire, { "foo": "bar" } is JSON
@RyanKinal Yes or no?
@ŠimeVidas No
Thanks, ok one more please....
It may be notation in javascript that represents an object, but it's not JSON.
20:13
^ taylor swift featuring Nicholas Cage
> American has spoken: pile my food in a fucking bowl like I'm a dog I don't give a shit any more.
@rlemon The origin of the garbage plate is as follows: College kids were drunk, the bar piled a bunch of shit on a plate, and it was delicious.
I met the creator of the garbage plate right before he died of a heart attack.
The origin of all things awesome in Canada: College kids were drunk, <can't remember>, awesome thing was born.
20:16
milk in bags, man...
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milk in fucking bags- how does the rest of the world not do this?!
Read from there.
Evening everyone
Why the hell would you want milk in a bag?
20:16
it's actually so much easier
I can't imagine it's easier to pour. Seriously.
Or store for that matter.
any CV master here ?
@RyanKinal we do have it in cartons as well - bags are for larger amounts (4L) you can get 1L and 2L cartons
most everyone here prefers the bags because they are easier, and you don't get the crusty carton lip
that is a fancy milk holder as well
@rlemon are you good at writing Cvs :D
20:19
most just look like this ^
I know that stuff.
Milk has to be in a plastic bottle
@KendallFrey which stuff :|
Milk in bag, bag in pitcher.
@TimeToShine i.imgur.com/zeGph.gif why so we can have this??
By the transitive property, milk in pitcher
20:20
@rlemon Good point
pitcher in milk. Just to fuck with ya.
$g nontransitive dice
@RyanKinal I like this one better i.minus.com/iwq89ndZtMWOR.gif
Why are all of my click event handlers firing twice?
^^^ a real thing
@rlemon well its better then this
20:22
@MikeNolan did you attach them twice?
@rlemon wtf
@Jan Dvorak Nope. I'm using jQuery for it. The only reason I can think of is because my script isn't wrapped in document.ready()
@MikeNolan Because you drink plastic bag milk. If you drink bottle milk, this won't gonna happen, #Trust
@TimeToShine I drink bottle milk
20:24
@MikeNolan then it would fail to run at all, most likely, not run twice
@JanDvorak I'm using $.getScript which is inside of a $document.ready() which is why it is running.
TYL: Milk in bags is awesome. @RyanKinal if ever you come visit I will make sure to get some milk so you can see how much better it is
@MikeNolan in short: jsfiddle, please
( I say better because we get milk in the same jugs and cartons you do - we just also get the bags - so I can judge )
20:26
Fair enough
@JanDvorak Wait I was calling getScript twice. I'm dumb.
@rlemon are fireworks legal in Canada?
@MikeNolan they are legal in whole world Lol
milk in bags??
wtf
I know
Just not in the States.
20:29
really
@MikeNolan they are: but only on certain days and only in certain areas
I would Not live in a country where fireworks are not legal, SIMPLE
and areas is a stretch, I think it's like 10 meters away from a building and you are fine
In Czechia, fireworks are only legal during the New Year's Eve.
Who cares @rlemon
20:30
here there are like 4-5 holidays where we can fire them
here you do it anytime you want
but you really can only find them in stores the few weeks leading into those holidays
I shot a shotgun at Canada once.
@rlemon did you put me on ignore :L
so even if I wanted to go home and shoot some off - I probably couldn't find them for sale.
@TimeToShine no I just don't see a need to directly respond to you
20:31
@MikeNolan at canada (from outside), or in canada?
Oh Right, Looool
From outside. And really far away.
Like across Lake Ontario far away.
lol
someone help me with CV punch line please :/
Hmm... what's the firing range of a shotgun?
20:31
depends on the shell
best-case scenario
150 yards?
Metric please
150 meters?
!!/convert 150yd
20:33
fucking yards.
59 metric
@JanDvorak Confuse converter with yd, receive error message
@Loktar would a large caliber buckshot (~3 balls) actually travel further than a slug?
grow up america
@rlemon no idea Id say no though
20:33
Blame our teachers.
$g 150 yards to meters
hrm, I would be curious to know if the size of the bullet vs wind resistance would make much of a difference here - assuming both had the same weight of powder
I would say a slug would travel farther.
heavier bullets better resist air drag
20:34
@MikeNolan I can go up the street and buy fireworks. Around the 4th, fireworks are sold in grocery stores.
(Of course, I live in Pennsylvania, not NY)
@JanDvorak ahh, ok then.
yeah buckshot is for limited ranges
slugs are made for further travel
@RyanKinal isn't it only people from out of state can buy fireworks in PA?
I've only ever shot slugs
@MikeNolan Yep. But I have a NY license :-D
20:36
never hunted with a shotgun - just range.
Aha.
Well I gots to go.
Bye errybody
see ya
20:43
am I too late to say adios?
probably
Hate the design, hate the third person, listing of personal skills with no justification or proof of them, don't give a shit about what they did 5 jobs ago, don't care about high school marks, too dense, references on request means one more step in the hiring process (if they get 600 applications and need any reason to cut it down, that will be one)
Typo: History of teh Modern World (B)
I agree with most of points you mentioned expect reference one, I never seen a CV that provides references
20:53
I dislike the design especially the font
References no, referee details yes
@TimeToShine: Do people seriously care about the A-levels when you have an university degree?!
Nope
And they don't care about a degree when you have a job
Unless it's from like Harvard
@TimeToShine And as a web developer you would probably have links to past work or open source contributions
@ThiefMaster Does anyone care about them full stop?
HAMMERTIME!
20:56
Settle down chatbot
HALT!
HAMMERZEIT!
I used to put my A levels and O levels because I studied Computer science in them and got really good grades like A+ in Computer Science and Mathematics, but I don't think any recruiter ever looked at them.

however in uk, they do care about university degree @ThiefMaster
@MrD as a SharePoint developer I have to add them bits,
I just now finally looked up what CV actually means and how it is different from a resume
shows how out of the loop I am

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