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21:01
doot doot
doot doot
doot doot?
dont dont
@rlemon I said it was late!
@MadaraUchiha rlemon is afk: doot doot i.redd.it/oq2kid5rgjo01.gif
21:15
> +new Number(2) == +new Number(2)
true
boxing numbers sucks :D
Heh
!!> (function() { return typeof this; }).call(5)
@MadaraUchiha "object"
!!> typeof 5
21:18
@ssube "number"
😬
10 points to anyone except Benji that knows why this happens
uh guys
you can't call methods on a primitive without boxing it
anyone wanna play hearthstone with me
not sure how that changes with .call and .apply
@ssube I didn't call any method on it, so nope.
@KendallFrey Yeah, Bob's assemblers are insane.
oh a js challenge
what are the prizes
1 min ago, by Madara Uchiha
10 points to anyone except Benji that knows why this happens
@MadaraUchiha not as such, but you called a function in the same way you'd call a method
21:19
@MadaraUchiha and the beacons
138MW :o
so to produce a valid this, it presumably did the same steps
@ssube Nope, that's not it :)
orly
a lot of people play with bob's modules disabled... I released a mod that balanced it out a bit a while back but it probably doesn't work anymore
21:20
Did it create a new empty object?
the answer is obviously that it's a Number, which is an object :P
@MadaraUchiha this refers to the Number object, not the prim val
@david I just realized that I should disable god modules
are you asking why it's a Number and not a number?
@Mosho 10 points to you
21:20
that's it?
wtf
that's what I said, tho
2 mins ago, by ssube
you can't call methods on a primitive without boxing it
@ssube But you didn't call any method
Also
@ssube you can have 2 points out of my 10
!!> (function() { 'use strict'; return typeof this; }).call(5)
@MadaraUchiha "number"
21:21
lmfao it produced 100 gear wheels in like 2 frames
without the function call, it wouldn't get boxed
nice
In loose mode, using .call() or .apply() with a primitive on the first argument boxes it. In strict mode, it does not.
oh, ok
@KendallFrey I actually really like god modules, they're just too easy to get. I made them require lvl 8 regular modules to make 1 god module
21:22
@MadaraUchiha ooooh
that's a hell of a difference
@david Once you get level 1s and add them to the entire chain, the rest come faster and faster.
what is meant by "boxing" it?
@david If I can get level 8 modules i have no need of god modules
even though I'm in marathon mode
!!> 2 === Number(2)
and god modules can't be put in beacons anyway
21:22
@MadaraUchiha true
@MadaraUchiha yep, but i also made the entire chain exponential, so it still never grew out of control
@jAndy converting a primitive to an object, traditionally so you could call methods against it
I think the base bob's modules needs just 1 of the previous module to make the next one
21:23
which is messed up
!!> 2 === new Number(2)
but here, that's not why :D
@MadaraUchiha false
There we go
aight
21:23
@MadaraUchiha that's hardly surprising
@Mosho He asked what boxing was
@KendallFrey The god's modules can apply to things that regular modules can't apply to
lol there's just no way the inserters can keep up
I think it's some kind of sport
Is there a better way of me doing this, to check if an attachment has a specific attribute value?

if (attachments.filter(attachment => attachment.name === GIPHY_BOT_ID).length === 0) {
            // do something
        }
21:24
@david what do you mean?
I always called it the long version... "translating a primitive into its object representation"
@KendallFrey regular productivity modules can only apply to intermediary products, but god's modules can apply to final products too
@tomaytotomato Yes
@tomaytotomato some
@david by default?
It didn't let me
21:24
map? @MadaraUchiha ?
hmmm... maybe not by default...
if (attachments.every(attachment => attachment.name !== GIPHY_BOT_ID)) {
I think there's maybe a setting for that
@jAndy the older context I've heard the terms in was Java, where boxing and unboxing is a big deal
actually yeah, i think that's a change i made in the mod....
let me find it
21:24
Or !attachments.some() with the opposite condition
@MadaraUchiha That hurts my head.
yeah, every or some
so I'm buying another used car. Is mileage ignoring the fact I'm the only one in it a safe bet on comparing big name brands?
@MetaEd You're not supposed to do it
I really know nothing about cars
21:25
@William no
@david "Productivity limitations" I think
But the best WAT I know is this
some engines explode at a certain mileage, some explode randomly, some never do
@KendallFrey yeah, you're right it's turned off by default but I turned it back on
21:26
the make and rev of the car matter more than anything else
ssube make meaning honda, toyota or something else
so I'm not even sure what to do here
That mod probably doesn't work anymore
like, 12 ultimate stack inserters can't even close to keep up with iron gear wheels
aah you mean name
21:26
@William yeah. A make has models, models have years.
those years come in ranges with bigger changes happening between them
> class Foo {}
[Function: Foo]
> Foo
[Function: Foo]
> class Bar extends Foo {}
[Function: Bar]
> Bar
[Function: Bar]
> class Wat extends 4 {}
TypeError: Class extends value 4 is not a function or null
    at repl:1:1
> class Wat extends Bar {}
TypeError: Identifier 'Wat' has already been declared
    at repl:1:1
> Wat
ReferenceError: Wat is not defined
    at repl:1:1
>
some ranges had a bad engine (anything from the early 2000s, f.ex)
inserter throughput looks like it's giving me 60k/min
that's with 3 output inserters on every side
so if I buying a car that is recently made I basically have no way of knowing if it is bad bunch considering how recent it was made
most likely nobody has hit that type of mileage
@MadaraUchiha fun
21:29
@MadaraUchiha My head hurts more.
@KendallFrey so Trappist 1 is looking pretty interesting
@William pretty much, yeah. That only applies to mileage-related problems, lemons and stuff happen too.
@KendallFrey planets with like 30-40% water by mass
whoa
gas giants?
21:30
@MadaraUchiha how can I use every() defensively if the list is empty after being returned by a promise?
or maybe they'd be called ice giants
Everything about that system just looks neat.
@MadaraUchiha pfff I found that months ago
so no one wants to play hearthstone?
mine won't update on my phone
70% of my storage is taken up by "other" that i can't get rid of
waterworlds
21:37
android phone?
what does "too much water to support life" mean? (not literally, like what does it mean to the planet's surface)
^ ?
probably to much water cuts into other needs gasses
iphone
not enough beaches
kevin I'm pretty sure you can see how much space is taken up by application
21:40
you can
and where is the other there?
but there's this "other" category that holds iphone related shit, like updates
various caches
i could fix it by resetting the phone
hmm you can delete updates as long as they aren't installed
but... that'd mean installing that thing on my computer that will backup my phone
i don't have any pending updates
better back up your computer first
21:41
> "However, a planet that is a water world, or one that doesn't have any surface above the water, does not have the important geochemical or elemental cycles that are absolutely necessary for life."
ssube ^
I have 64GB iphone and barely take up half so yeah I don't know
@Luggage interesting
16GB
I would've assumed that water is enough, but water without life in it isn't good for much
dude I guarantee you make more money then me and you have a 16gb iphone?
21:42
apps are taking up 30%, other is taking up 40%
must be old
4546B is fine though. it has islands
I refuse to upgrade to an iphone without touch unlock
touch id?
yea
none of that faceid shit
21:43
@Luggage But didn't life start at the bottom of the sea?
well only the iphone x has that so that shouldn't be to difficult.
maybe it did, but needed chemicals from eroding rocks and chemical reactions that needed the sun?
yea but if i go away from iphone then i've gotta redo everything
I am stilling running a 6 and probably will get a 6s just to keep the headphone jack
@Luggage I thought the idea was they got energy from hydrothermal vents
21:44
if only no phone was still an option
the 6s,7 and 8 (including plus models) don't have face id they use touch id
I would happily trade this thing for a real pager
energy and water are not the only ingredients
but maybe geologic activity just doesn't work on a waterworld
@Luggage well they're not 100% water
i think this one is 6
21:45
the article sounds like you need certain things in the sun above water to form the right chemicals.
@KendallFrey a lot of that activity depends on the mountains and such
it's the smaller model of the version they released the large 6 with
without those, you'd have similar movement, but under water
the actual forming of life might happen deep down, though
you lose the rain purification cycle
21:45
kevin what carrier do you have?
cspire
without beaches, would the water be oxygenated enough to support life?
i have an upgrade available
Who says you need oxygen?
You should upgrade to the 6s if you care about the headphone jack before it is discontinued
21:47
I'm guessing the first life was anaerobic. It was the anaerobic life that created the oxygen.
i've used the headphone jack once since i've had an iphone
ahh well I use it everyday to listen to music,podcasts & talk on the phonee
i don't listen to music or talk to people, :p
I wouldn't care except no you basically have to buy a iphone battery case which doesn't protect the phone
@KendallFrey maybe the first part, but with a fish tank, the pump is important to oxygenate it
how does that translate to a whole planet?
21:48
oxygen was created by life on earth.
@ssube yeah, because fish breathe oxygen
not all life does
right
let me rephrase
in general, oxygen is toxic to organic molecules
does having exposed land change the amount of dissolved gas in the water?
exposed land just puts some elements in direct sunlight.
that may not be otherwise
21:49
the latter half is uselessly ambiguous still
@Luggage it also causes more waves
but depth does change temperature
so many things change in shallow water
thing is... other than the storage, there's nothing wrong with this phone
why upgrade
yea. i've played subnautica
why is hearthstone taking 2gb on my phone
@MadaraUchiha I assume you mean you're always supposed to use strict?
heh, I haven't yet, it's still on my wishlist
21:51
That's been my practice. Habit from perl.
@ssube meh, not super important
most of the oxygen is absorbed by the surface of the water
it's mostly to move water and looks pretty
@rlemon oh really? I had always been told it was
if you didn't have movement, the fish would suffocate
think of all those home ponds or tanks without air stones.
kevin how do you play angry birds
very important
i don't
that got boring years ago
21:53
water movement is important, but again. as long as the surface can absorb the oxygen the rest is just nice to have I guess.
the movement is more important because it clears the surface of film
;) yeah also the photos is the may advantage of the psace
i just read the news now
and discord/websites etc
i'll take videos with family
my $120 phone has 32gb internal and a 64gb card
paying $1000 for a phone is insane
I'm fine around the $700 mark
21:54
every android phone battery life sucked
still insane
that I have had
they call it an idiot tax for a reason
@Mosho if I decided to take a contract it wouldn't be.
I like how the samsung ad for the newest one is "more than you need"
21:55
$700 and financed is ok, but silly
and I should, I'm just stubborn and don't
really Samsung phones are quite close in price when you get down to the actual offeringsn
I would never drop $700 on a phone directly, or even $200
Note 8 has dual cameras and is with in a 100 dollars of the iphone 10
could get a brand new model for like $50 and a 3 year plan. but being locked in for 3 years puts me off, irrationally.
21:55
i had been considering getting a pixel for a while
@William and they all cost $100 to make, so it's irrelevant
unlocked phone is a must for me though
I prefer to pay the phone outright and not have to deal with their contract lengths.
not sure you can get an unlocked one with a contract
but when it comes to phones that aren't iphone... i have no idea what i'm looking at in terms of features
21:56
though I haven't checked in a while
@Mosho pretty sure that's the standard now in Canada
few years ago they passed a law
I can trade in my phone before the payment contract is up
definitely wouldn't have taken it on a 3 year term
@KevinB Android lacks a lot of features I like about my iPhone. I have a nexus on Oreo also never use it though
I should get a blackberry
support local businesses
21:57
you mean the blackberry that runs android but with a keyboard
the new ones arn't that bad. not like the problems they had from 2009->2012ish
@William nothing wrong with that
my boss keeps getting them. he's a die hard
@Luggage I want that game
rlemon old blackberries or the andorid ones
21:58
not moving to android from the start was a big mistake even
@William no clue when he started, but ofc when I said new ones I'm talking about current models on android
@Mosho they wanted to be samsung and make 30 phones AND be apple and make their own OS
I read that BB is really a shell corporation for holding patents now though
big risk, big reward. but they failed obviously.
rlemon don't assume I read an article the other day about drug dealers buying old blackberries
yes, my boss is a drug dealer.
we sell crack corncaine
21:59
to be fair prior to iOS & android the mobile os market was not even close to being a duopoly

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