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22:00
what
sign me up for PopeFacts
Yeah, isn't it like 2.2 popes/km^2 in the Vatican?
!!wat
22:00
Vatican is 0.44 km2
There is 1 pope.
my server's "down" error page is just gonna say "shit broke"
!!> 1 / 0.44
@MadaraUchiha 2.272727272727273
that's like 5 woodhouses
~2.27 popes / km squared.
22:01
@ssube yes mum
when you originally said > 1 / km2, you didn't say just in the vatican
@Luggage No idea what you're talking about.
THANKS MADARA
@Luggage He was speaking of the burrowing variety. They only come out at night.
Fact: The average person has less than two arms.
22:02
@FélixGagnon-Grenier when do you get back from the woods?
@MadaraUchiha I'm glad I'm not him.
@MadaraUchiha Ohh, I see. With the unlimited editing ability..
@William hmmm. I did already
yeah, that stackoverfiow thing
I remember opening the aws console, not remembering at all how any of this work, then abandoning quickly
lol. Well this shouldn't happen again unless github goes down ;)
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I do that every day
> what am I doing here, what does this button do, what does life mean?
user1596138
22:05
I just got challenged to an IQ test.
@Jhoverit what type?
@ssube so very true
user1596138
I told this girl she was stoopid and she said "I guarantee I'm smarter than you lets do a IQ test right now"
user1596138
Except without apostrophes or capitalization like that
lol that's awesome
user1596138
22:06
@William Lol probably Wonderlic like last month
@Jhoverit I do hope you held up to it?
did she also use the wrong indefinite article?
user1596138
Lol. No.
hahahaha
oh, I also remember being angry at aws defaulting their shit to french
user1596138
Haha that was just fucking gold tho
22:07
how do I turn that in english. ffs
-1
Q: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery errors library

mozsI am getting Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 and Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery errors I have included jquery script before the bootstrap. The problem started when I am including the the library using <script> tag. Everything works when the library is...

hahaha yeah there is a register I use that does French. I email them when I want to change something
The dudes in email speak english quite well
@FélixGagnon-Grenier that's a really good question. My Account -> Preferences?
apparently it's in the bottom left of the screen. phew
22:09
not sure what those are called in the french version, but I can tell you where they are
oh, ha, the big globe and language
clearly I never look at the footer
look for american flag sort of joking
yeah, me neither ;)
... lol ok I was very fucking lazy, it's really written clearly how to redirect aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/…
so @William, what was it you wanted me to redirect to instead?
@MadaraUchiha yeah what a clusterfuck of fails
isn't that just pre-release?
22:11
@FélixGagnon-Grenier And they had the gall to tell people "Why are you using a pre-release version?" The tag says 5.7.0
@FélixGagnon-Grenier stackoverfiow.github.io works, but it would be funnier if you changed the DNS values.
cc @KevinB ^
@MadaraUchiha the last comment is the best imo
Nobody pinged me all day long while I was in meetings. I now hate you all and hope cancer upon your left tooth
> 5.7.0 will promptly fade into oblivion :) Cheers.
22:12
@ssube Haven't reached all the way down yet, I'm getting my second popcorn
like, sure, pal
says pre-release here: github.com/npm/npm/releases
@KevinB it installs automatically when using npm install commands
they broke people's servers, told them it was their own fault (but had tagged the release wrong), and think it will fade away?
@KevinB but in npm it was 5.7.0 plain, not 5.7.0-rc or anything
22:13
Why would npm install by default install @next and not @latest?
so npm update npm picked it up
Anyone else here used elasticsearch? I'm in charge of setting it up and a java client for it. I've never used it before
@SterlingArcher did once
it was pretty funny for the rest of us, iirc
-4
Q: Images not appearing in HTML

JenserSpencerI am working on a website for school that needs to be finished tomorrow, only I have one problem, my images are only appearing on Microsoft Edge and not on Google Crome, I have no idea what to do please help.

I thought Jordan used Solr
We used solr at my last gig, and it was absolute cancer
22:15
oh, maybe
elasticsearch is pretty ok, I wouldn't want to run it by hand tho
we tried solr, but it was rather useless with our naming conventions
We have to manage it temporarily until the internal team here figures out how to run it as a managed service internally
self-service, auto scaling, etc
redbrick had/has an ES cluster for that week's logs, it was something like 25TB and always broken
stackoverflow.com/questions/48938091/… some morons are upvoting this to cancel out the downvotes
it completely threw out any search containing just two letters unless we changed the config, and with that change the results were almost never relevant when searching for a product by name
22:18
@ndugger he updated with code pretty funny
I still want it closed on the principal that he sucks
yeah I suspect multiple accounts by same owenr
gamingpc#1.jpg
I need to restore my faith in semicolons
this company isn't using them, but it actually seems ok
in JS?
but it isn't @latest
the ASI adds them anyways, so you're just creating unnesesary overhead for the compiler
it's @next
why do so few take me seriously
because you make so many bad decisions
22:24
function Foo() {}

Foo.prototype.toString = function() {
  return 'hello'
}

(function() {
  console.log('hi')
})
@towc ^ you're fucked.
that one has broken real stuff for me before
umm, who event does IIFEs or shitty fake module patterns anymore?
the toString gets called, right?
write better code
@towc Yes.
22:24
we had many modules, only one was missing its final semi, and one day the order changed
it's not an iife since it's never I'ed
@ndugger You don't always control your codebase 100%
@ssube oh the agony
I control everything
I'm god
"Just don't write bugs" is not a valid argument.
22:25
in this company's case it's actually ok because they're heavy users of ES6+ (so classes), and IIFEs aren't really common anymore if not for base-level module stuff, but that's handled by webpack
god of trains
it was fun because there was no immediate error
the missing module was passed as a param, never ran, so it was much later than you found out a class was missing
I'm not convinced it's a good argument to NOT use semicolons
but it's also not convincing me that semicolons are good when writing modern code either way :/
the only argument to not use semicolons is lazyness
Night o/
22:26
I'm not convinced you should ever be in a position to make any technical or non-technical decisions
semicolons are ugly
skipping them is being rebellious for no reason
> oh, we're so cool, our code might break at any time
@Luggage the other 2 arguments that I somewhat agree with are reducing visual noise and not having to get behind the semicolon when editing the end of a line
@Luggage also, in the long run semicolons can make the file size larger by quite a considerable amount....
> I kind of think writing fragile code is ok. why isn't it?
[is shown thing that breaks fragile code]
no, it's still ok
but still, that's not enough for me to want to not use semicolons
close your macbook, take out your manbun, and walk into traffic
don't begin with that visual debt thing
you ok felix
I give 0.00 fucks about file size :)
22:27
@towc how is either of those an argument?
yeah, totally ok :)
I can always minimize.
humans benefit from seeing delimiters
I mean.. a tool can minimize, not me.
@SaitamaSama absolutely not, and consider how you're impacting performace by omitting them, because the ASI inserts them anyways
22:28
for editing, $i is almost as easy as A
@Luggage but you are a tool
2
different tool
@SaitamaSama forcing all JS to be unicode has a much greater impact, gzip negates both
@ssube I agree, I'm ok with semicolons even if they're "noise" because I get boundaries, but I can also definitely see myself being ok with not having the boundaries, and using a very consistent programming style to tell me where the limits are intuitively
Hmm... True.
22:29
I gzip pretty much everything that isn't JSON from my servers, like scripts, pdfs, images, etc
my code is consistent, I still use semicolons and visible whitespace
@ndugger fair enough
@ssube tbf I've always had a problem with $
then get a bank account
@towc it is the root of all evil, after all
22:30
yeah you're pretty broke
damn you dugger
coldfusion sometimes yells at me when i forget a semicolon
lol
And yeah, I do use semicolons in my code all the time as well... It feels like my code is naked if there aren't any semicolons tbh
it's maybe the character with the higher "hard to reach" to "commonality" ratio
so many good twists
22:30
my colon has a semi in it
screw you all, I love you anyway
@MadaraUchiha when was the last time you wrote code like that?
Who remembers that code where someone just moved all of their semicolons to the end of the row to make their JS look like python?
I'd still rather be safe, but I feel like it's not that bad
22:32
I've seen C like that
@ndugger towc farm remembers
wtf is a towc farm?
pepperidge farm?
a place you don't want to go to
ohhhhh
I was imagining a cloning facility, but outdoors, like an apple orchard
22:33
@towc Not recently. Although I know of at least one codebase that is still written in that style.
oooohhhhh... that's neat too
@ndugger that is horrible
@ssube good stuff
bah, I do want (and need) to adhere to the code style, so I will need to learn how to live without semicolons for a while
muscle memory will be really hard to control
As long as you tell them that their code is fragile
@towc Use something like prettier
See if that works for you
22:35
@ndugger I've argued for 10 minutes with the 2 friends who work there
@MadaraUchiha you need to use something like prettier on yourself
@MadaraUchiha yeah, I actually came here after I noticed that prettier inserts semicolons automatically
I can config it, but it still made me have more questions
@towc There's --no-semi
I was like "ok, this is it". Then it put the semicolon there, as if it was mocking me
Which is explicitly for perverts like you and your team :)
@towc Because it has to
22:36
I guess you need ASR, Automatic Semicolon Removal
I agree
In that particular place, there MUST be a semicolon.
towc is a pervert
@ndugger don't stop there
this conversation...
22:37
I hate writing tests
write less code and you won't have to write so many tests
@ndugger you're the one with a semi in your colon
true
but as a train, it's not so perverse
person goes to coding interview for NSA. Types his code like that. Immediately gets rejected (they dont realize that the code can hack stackexchange in 10ms)
22:38
false: nothing on windows happens in 10ms
i see
that's true
stop agreeing with us
RTT to Russia is more than 10ms
why? because im a traitor to JS?
22:40
pretty much explains it
I'm still at work for some awful reason
bye
I was just trying to find the java chat! Come on now...
var encryptMessage = function(){
var plaintext = document.getElementById("toEncrypt").value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z]/g, "").toLowerCase();
var key = "mine";
var ciphertext = "";
var consonants = 0;
var rot13 = false;
for(var i = 0; i < plaintext.length; i++){
if(consonants === 6){
consonants = 0;
rot13 = !rot13;
}
var c = plaintext.charAt(i);
if(isConsonant(c)){
consonants++;
}
if(rot13){
//Implement rot13
if (c >= 'a' && c <= 'm') c = String.fromCharCode(c.charCodeAt(0) + 13);
else if (c >= 'A' && c <= 'M') c = String.fromCharCode(c.charCodeAt(0) + 13);
this is the javaSCRIPT code i wrote for a friend
happy?
var
nope
@JavaScriptCoder java SCRIPT*
22:42
> Being a programmer is easy. It's like riding a bike, except the bike is on fire, you are on fire, everything is on fire, and you are in hell
oy vey
ndugger calls abuse
Well, before you call RO's trolls and get yourself deeper in the water, let's go with what actually happened. Editing times out.
@ndugger thanks to me, you can troll while offline too. How cool is that
22:45
felix you renewed the domain right? I look online and it expired last month assuming you renewed. I think it funny pointing to something.. I don't want all those twitter links pointing to nothing.
@hilli_micha that explanation is too easy
it's chemtrolls
2
don't insult chemistry...
In light of that statement, i'll take towc's suggestion. Chemtrolls
definitely chemtrolls
22:46
ok, bye, going over to Chem.SE :(
@William pretty sure I renewed. I'm not quite sure what it is you expect however. you want stackoverfiow.com to redirect to reb video and stackoverfiow.io to redirect to the current stackoverfiow.github.io?
@JavaScriptCoder Be careful of the frogs.
@JavaScriptCoder ask them which chemtroll is the rarest
I've read that question and answer about dns, but I'm unsure what is related to what
@FélixGagnon-Grenier have you used github pages before?
github pages allows you to host static websites for free with custom domains
if you change the records stackoverfiow.com will be the rebecca black video no redirect
you could even have a rick roll page somewhere
I think that was meta.stackoverfiow
heh, yes indeed
not fullscreen though, but I guess... I'll change the records if you want if you want to do TeamViewer
that is funny
22:51
nah, I've got way too much pr0n in the background
it's getting to get clearer however, I'll get out of under my rock
about broken sites, I just contacted the rebecca.blackfriday guy to see if he's planning to fix it
hoping for the best
yeah through twitter or email?
what are you trying to accomplish with DNS here?
I'll keep you updated
I'm somewhat familiar with the github side
22:52
apparently, have stackoverfiow.com serve stackoverfiow.github.io without redirect
@ssube just point stackoverfiow.com to the github pages. It is how all my sites work.
yeah stackoverfiow.github.io
ah, github has decent docs for that, iirc
Stop pooping in the back seat, thanks
this bottle of fanta freezed in the fridge (not freezer) in maybe 13hrs
never seen it happen before
maybe I need to tone down the fridge
froze*
22:55
felix this might be easier help.github.com/articles/setting-up-an-apex-domain Honestly its your call if you are satisfied with how its set up then just leave it I guess
oh, I am quite happy to mess with all this
I say of myself that I'm a web dev, what the hell am I if I can't understand dns records and hosted zones enough to make this happen
@ndugger wow
uuuuh, maybe that's why those eggs were so solid too
I think I modified the www record set from ipv4 redirect to CNAME towards the github.io page
technically, it would then take some time for dns to propagate, yes?
I want to put my unconscious colonist in my ship, but the pawn only wants to carry him to an ancient cryptosleep casket. What do?
yeah you have to wait up to 24ish hours IME for them to propgate
23:02
ouch ok ;)
!!s/froze/freezeded/
@Shmiddty freezeded* (source)
disassemble it first
@ssube it was solr, dicknut
... wow, actually, playing with the dns was much cleaner than redirecting in the first place.
23:03
@FélixGagnon-Grenier whatever you TTL is
24 hours is extremely long
s/hours/inches/
@KendallFrey put the casket in the ship?
ok soonish then
5 minutes is the standard minimum, if there is one
23:04
@Shmiddty Um, that's not possible
there are a few parts of Canada that will cache you for up to a week (thanks Bell)
8.8.8.8
@KendallFrey put the ship in the casket?
make the only path to the casket go through the ship?
23:05
destroy the casket?
hmmm the path way is not completely insane tbh
can you make it a prison bed or disable it or anything?
restrict the pawns to a home region that doesn't cover that bed
just having a deconstruction order on it might be enough tho
@ssube tried that
@ssube and that
I think I'll just decon it
also this is a nice time to leave because I just ran out of food
how is named the general field of knowledge that addresses SOA records, hosted zones, record sets, dns, and stuff like that?
@FélixGagnon-Grenier this is a picture of my settings and that work. ssube is right 24 hours is a really long time it should take 5 minutes except for cache
23:13
network engineering? internet?
just DNS, I think
eh, either of those works
sweet, you can scroll the credits manually :D
i'm going to install oreo on my nexus 5 from the sketchy xda forms. :P
... I never finished rimworld
I have this thing, where I always start a new game with that or that mod
You can finish rimworld?
23:17
3 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
sweet, you can scroll the credits manually :D
I think? ^
Kendall can
one does not simply finish rimworld
you just survive until the yorkies come
yes. yes... you made a joke.
23:17
we all know he finishes some weird stuff
and once again
@ssube heyo
7 hours ago, by Félix Gagnon-Grenier
the joke --------------------------------------------------------- me
the joke is next to you?
the joke
---------
me
well, it's definitely not above me ;)
23:18
IS IT
^
@ssube oh, did you mean TTL of the golbal Name Server, of or a precise record set?
because the NS record set is at 172800 (48h)
the A record you're changing
each record is tracked individually
a server could choose to ignore TTLs and use its own, but then things break
23:25
@SterlingArcher I did. Also your mom.
She did mention she experienced severe disappointment recently..
Maybe it's because of the way you turned out.
No that can't be it, I'm awesome
that was harsh, sorry eh here's a hockey puck
go drain a maple tree you molson lover
23:29
I'd completely forgotten Molson was a thing
it's really not
embrace the new microbrewery loving canadian type
hmmm... damn @William.
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Q: RRSet of type CNAME with DNS name foo.com. is not permitted at apex in zone bar.com

fredleyI own foo.com and bar.com. I am managing both in Route53. foo.com hosts my site, and I'd like to direct traffic from bar.com to foo.com. I tried to set up a CNAME record for bar.com pointing to foo.com, but I got the error message: RRSet of type CNAME with DNS name foo.com. is not permitted at a...

if I am not completely lost, I can't set a CNAME on stackoverfiow.com
it works for me
... which is a redirect
isn't it?
no
that picture is of a site running on github pages right now
honestly I understand enough but not everything DNS related. I have had hosting where one way works for github pages but not the other way no idea why honestly.
alright, so I set an A record for 192.30.252.153 on top level stackoverfiow.com and CNAME towards the github.io domain on www.
let's see what this does
23:36
no do the ip address.
exactly as the picture. I configure the domain on github pages settings. All sites on github pages point to the same www ip address
it sort of working here give me 5 minutes to configue it in settings.
yeah!! stackoverfiow.com/q/1234 is back up and running
0
Q: How to tell a dupe question?

Your Common SenseThere is a question that seems to me an exemplary duplicate for the well-known post with a lot of detailed answers which scarcely can be surpassed, especially by a two links-only answer. But as far as I can tell, nobody else thinks it's a dupe. So, am I taking it wrong?

.... I have no idea what is happening
stackoverfiow.com itself is not working, yet the /q are
cache
do an incognito window or another browser or clear the cache lol
23:54
@KevinB so meta

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