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I think the idea is still the same: no number that is bigger than 1 to any power will ever be bigger than 1
hence you end up with a recursive domain restriction
 
!!>x=z=.0001; for(i=0;i<100992;++i) x=z**x
 
@KendallFrey 0.999071486910939
@KendallFrey 0.00010085885937360903
 
That does not quickly converge, if at all
 
oh, right, it might actually overshoot
 
11:01 PM
@towc huh what
 
I don't know what I'm doing, I'm not formalizing and clearly making mistakes
 
oh boy now I'm confusing myself
 
so, at any step of the process, x will be the output of z**x. If the initial x = z which are (0,1] (for now), it means that the next x will be in the range of z**x for x (0,1], and I think that's still (0,1]
which means x will always be (0,1]
right?
I think I'm not thinking enough about what the range could be
 
I wonder if finite iteration won't approach the actual closed form value
Cause the more I iterate, it doesn't approach what I expect
 
intuitively, it seems to trivially follow that, because a**(1/n) >= a for a in (0, 1] and n in N/{0}, the range will never be bigger than the domain in the previous example
 
11:05 PM
I wonder if limits yield different results from what I was doing before
That'd be trippy
 
if we represent the result y as a sequence U(n) defined as U(n)=x**U(n-1), we can make a web diagram
and from there the intuition should be graphically visible
well, headphones ran out of battery :/
but I'm still too angry to go to sleep
 
If you want a hint I can give you one that will blow your mind
 
wait, am I wrong?
is it not just (0,1]?
 
Not according to the approach I used
 
(if only real numbers are allowed in the range)
do hint
 
11:10 PM
let y = x^x^x^...
then y = x^y
 
aye
 
raise both sides to (1/y)
y^(1/y) = x
 
and now you just look for the range of y^(1/y), huh?
 
not technically a closed form form for y, but yeah
a graph will easily show you the range
 
and that goes as high as ~1.43
 
11:12 PM
But what exactly is that value ;)
 
well, my approach did prove (0,1], so I'm happy with that. Ofc it didn't even take into account numbers above that, but I should have been able to think about it :/
 
I think (0, 1] is pretty easy, it's not obvious that 1.1 should converge
 
yeah :/
well, you're just looking for the max(y^(1/y))
which sounds like a fun thing in itself
 
It's also pretty easy to get from the graph
 
the exact value too?
 
11:16 PM
Not to prove it, but to get the right answer from a multiple choice
 
well, right
 
I'm guessing it's fairly straightforward to derive it and find a maximum
 
for you maybe
 
I didn't say I could do it
I bet blackpenredpen could
He's being doing some videos about x^x^x^...
and I've been learning how to use implicit differentiation from him
 
gosh, maths is actually still triggering me
I can't stop thinking about the interviews at cambridge and imperial
 
11:20 PM
sorry
 
I remember one of the problems someone had was exactly to find the derivative of x^x^x^x...
and I think when they told me that, I had it done in my head in a couple of seconds
 
If you actually did that's fucking impressive
 
ever since I finished highschool, I don't think I've actually tried solving a maths thing
well, I was super-hyped, my neurons were firing up like crazy
 
even deriving x^x would impress me
 
I solved 1+(1/(1+(1/(1+...))))) in my head too when someone asked me
but my 2 actual interview questions were also so simple, but I just brainfarted
this was at imperial
 
11:23 PM
@towc Is that the golden ratio?
 
one of the was to find the big O notation for pivot sorting or something like that
@KendallFrey yup
 
That was just memorization, unfortunately
 
and I slowly got there, but it was cringey af
the other question at imperial was to graph sin(1/x), and everytime I think about it now it's so bloody obvious
but trying to be academic and all I tried to start analyzing it formally
graphing first one, then the other, then the zeros, limits, talking about cyclicity
 
"just draw the bloody squiggle damnit" I keep screaming at me
 
11:25 PM
@KamilSolecki @Jhoverit @HatterisMad @Luggage @ssube @rlemon
new video
 
"Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available"
 
Who needs to subscribe, when you just get pinged on SO instead
 
don't tell me to get a better browser
 
Archer the road saver!
 
@KamilSolecki most interesections I wouldn't care but I've seen 4 people hit in a year at that one. total blind turn (hence the no turn)
 
11:26 PM
@SterlingArcher Man you'd have been pissed riding with me then
I like taking under construction roads when on bike
 
jesus lol
 
Saves so much fucking time sometimes
 
roads are too mainstream
 
My father is even worse tho
 
oh, one of the exams I had to take at cambridge is up for exercise online: cl.cam.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/admissions-test/…
@KendallFrey ^
 
11:30 PM
 
He had driven through sidewalks and stairs Just to the the bike to the hotel
Which I was too Pussy to do on a 200kg bike
Stairs scare me
 
@KendallFrey in the first one I just had an y=x² graph for x<0, and a y=0 graph otherwise. Is there any other way you can think of interpreting that?
 
lmao yeah I wouldn't do that on my shiver
I'd over throttle and fuck up
too much power
 
@towc I don't know the min notation
 
me neither
I think we were supposed to make up a meaning
 
11:32 PM
honestly though who reads a book in traffic
like really
 
in that case it sounds right
 
I remember explictly asking the examination person, and he was like "you need to figure it out"
 
@SterlingArcher ikr, audiobooks are much superior
 
q3 was an absolute mess
 
listening to movies > audiobooks
 
11:32 PM
how'd you do it?
 
do what?
 
god dammit guys subscribe to me
 
it's one of the things where you have very very limited time
@KendallFrey well, would would you do it?
how would*
 
@SterlingArcher there ya go
 
11:33 PM
My man
 
@SterlingArcher Just to make sure you are aware of it: you do employ countersteering, right
 
Absolutely, almost all my turns are counter steered
 
q9 was really easy
 
I need to move my camera down like 2cm so you can see my hands, but I did a swerve when the old lady u turned in front of me
 
couldn't find much about q8, I think, just some basic stuff
 
11:35 PM
I didn't rage cause I had more than enough time to be safe
 
@towc but not finite, right?
 
@KendallFrey well, recursive
 
@SterlingArcher Yeah good. For some reason They dont teach that in driving class around here, so a lot of people arent aware
 
The finiteness requirement makes lots of those random number things interesting
 
Which is Just sad
 
11:35 PM
They didn't teach us either, but we did go over it
 
Have you seen the three indistinguishable dice puzzle?
 
btw, nobody told me how right or wrong I was. I just know I didn't get an offer
 
his explanation made sense tbh "were not going fast enough or turning tight enough to properly show you"
 
one of the cambridge interviews just went so badly
 
11:36 PM
He went over it enough to let us know how to do it, what we should feel, etc
 
@KendallFrey oh yeah, that was fun!
 
I practice swerves by dodging potholes and manhole covers lol
 
I just looked at his answer, didn't try to make one myself
well, the answers people responded with
 
@sterlingarcher Btw I managed to book a course with these guys for the next year sbkschool.pl
 
q12 was also really easy, unless I'm missing something
oh no, right, I made a mess of the speed
 
11:39 PM
Ive met a lot of people who did that (incl. My pops) and everyone said it totally changed how They ride now
 
Ooooooh that looks fun!
I should find a track day
 
You bring your own bike, but They teach you proper techniques
For example, the first day you are only allowed to use one gear
 
I thought q20 was really easy, but when I later checked I made a really wrong assumption
 
So you can focus on more important stuff first
 
still not sure how else would I have shown it
my logic was that if you take the log of both, you find that 50 log 2 < 33 log 3
and I then said that log 3 / log 2 can't have been smaller than 50/33, by some rough approximations of the logs
acutally, in hindisght, I could have used mclaurin series for better approximations :/
and oh boy, it took me about 90 minutes to figure out I could take the paper clips of the pile of paper so I could write better
AAAAAAAAAAAARGH
I remember the one goal I had in mind before starting interviews and exams was to not remain traumatized
I left thinking I achieved that
but guess what
I'm weak
 

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