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20:00
@towc You're going to have to put more effort than that lol
well, he does
trump doesnt put effort into anything
can't we talk about abstract political leanings without trump?
I guess but then it isn't fun
20:02
Simple food is Best food
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Dood this is taking so long
a little closer to Authoritarian than I like
yea, it takes a while.
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> Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
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Lol
20:03
Agree.
haha
I disagreed, I'm not a damn connoisseur
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Wait no I disagreed to hell
I strongly disagreed
plus there are plenty of games and crap people like that I hate, they're still an art form I guess :p
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Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity.
20:04
I don't like that one
This what what I thought they meant.
@towc yeah same strongly disagreed
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Could that be any more blunt for which score it affects
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Yea some of these are honestly really bad questions.
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20:04
Really leading
@Jhoverit does it matter?
oh cool going to take that one
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@Loktar Makes sense
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20:06
Tiny bit more center and lib than you ;P
I hate some of these questions because they are contradictory
when I went to a psychologist once, he had me take a test. The last question was "do you feel like you wanted to argue the meaning of any of the questions?"
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Shit Idk if that's an insult, the way these categories work these days. Not supposed to be haha
I think every single person checked it, and it was just to make them feel more comfortable, instead of him having to explain them how psychology isn't a perfect science
I feel companies shouldn't have a social responsibility to anyone but their shareholders, but I also feel that regulation should be in place to prevent any social injustices or environmental woes
So they shouldn't have a social responsibilty, but a legal one
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20:07
I confused myself with this chart.
> From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
Sounds good all on it's own without thinking about it, but I know it's just a communist slogan that I disagree with.
he literally told me "but you wrote yes at the end, so none of this is absolute"
@Luggage yeah there's definitely some slant
@Luggage I don't think it sounds good even on its own
@Jhoverit says your are right libertarian. that's what I suspected you would be and agree with.
20:07
Yeah the thing is people need less than what they want
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/me has existential crisis based on political compass
Like:
It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society.
Where would you place the dot, then, Jhoppins?
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Ah okay, got myself confused on wtf means what
This test is assuming you want to dictate the lives of others. I feel a moral or societal objective to do what might be considered right. I don't feel others need this sense.
20:09
> Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.
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I say stick it over to the right a lil bit more :)
we all strongly agreed right
Why? Embrace the fact that it makes you look more centrist (which is usually reasonable)
@Meredith only agreed
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> (which is usually reasonable)
20:10
disagree
@Meredith what if the chick was hot though?
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This ^ is the only unreasonable thing.
I don't follow.
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That's the issue, it's like a -100 to +100 line
20:10
not bad
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You can't judge anything at all in that, honestly. Left/right is completely batshit haha
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@Loktar There that's more worthwhile at least the way it's represented
yea
Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public.
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I hate the frickin 2 axis BS haha
20:11
It really depends I think.
Kellogs tells you they have the best cereal, I don't think they should be penalised.
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What does it mean if I can sum up my belief as "You should be able to do whatever the fuck you want, you should only gain what you work for, and we shouldn't handicap the losers to make them closer to the winners"
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And I worded that this way on purpose baha.
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/me leaves on that note
Kellogs tells you your engine runs great on frosted flakes, I think they should be in trouble. There should be a middle of the road place for pushovers like me
@Loktar results as expected?
20:13
@GNi33 yeah pretty close
I know I'm definitely a nationalist
and I love the free market
just compared mine to yours, but yeah, we know that we have a different political worldview :)
even though some questions are a little off, I think the test isn't bad
It can be summed up in 3 letters
U S A
20:15
Oh god am I a terry
@SterlingArcher hah you and I are close
I always knew I was right-aligned neutral for the most part
I'm closer to libertarian and a tad further right
I'm a republican in the streets and a liberal in the sheets
LOL
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20:16
> My religious values should be spread as much as possible.
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Lmao that question
So how should I feel about the death penalty?
yeah I disagreed with that one @Jhoverit
since it could be another religion, and screw that
The death penalty is ok as long as you kill the executioner after
I also disagreed with that one, even thought my religious values are devout atheist
20:17
Who kills the executioner's executioner?
But seriously: free the market, idgaf about religion just keep it away from schools, fuck everybody you want whenever you want (within consent), kill criminals with electricity, and smoke weed everyday
yeah no religion in schools, or gov imo
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@SterlingArcher that can't be you
you're cool
I know I am ;)
20:18
@Vap0r It's executioners all the way down
I'm 3.5 on both axes into lib-left, pretty much the same result as I got last time
I'm just not pushy about my personal political or religious "agenda"
HAHAHAHAHA
Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
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@Loktar Like hell haha
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> Prostitution should be illegal.
20:18
That's a political opinion now?
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Why am I thinking so hard about this
I agreed with that
@Vap0r apparently lol
strongly
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Sell your dick it's whaever
20:18
Prositution should be legal
Some people deserve to die, but I'm ok with cancelling the death penalty as it's costly and innocent people die.
@Loktar I strongly disagreed
@Luggage yeah that's my only hesitation I guess
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Well it's got me wondering...
if innocent people are dying :/
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Prostitution by definition is SELF prostitution right?
Just stop arresting people for murder
@KamilSolecki problem is people do it anyway, with no access to legitimate services
Problem solved
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Like that couldn't mean essentially trafficking and slavery?
20:19
If porn is legal, prostitution should be legal because porn is just prostitution on film
would help human trafficking stop too
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Yea see the way it's defined that doesn't mean it's willful.
Oh boy:
> Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.
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Whatever, agrees
I personally wouldn't partake in it, I just feel like it shouldn't be illegal though, same with drugs
20:20
@Loktar I don't think anyone deserves to die, at any point, ever.
@KendallFrey almost exactly where i was (which is not a surprise)
@Loktar oh I thought you were talking about art
@KendallFrey what are your feelings on abortion?
Right? If I was hot enough I would totally be a man-whore
badumtish.
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20:20
> It is important that we further my group's goals above all others.
Who am I kidding I am hot enough
lmao funny typo on my part
@Loktar he can't feel his son, he was aborted
Abortion should be legal, safe and rare (not imposed rarity, but just due to proper birth control)
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Lmao this shit is luike a job interview
20:20
#KillAllKids
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Where they go "Have you ever stolen something while hitting a line of coke?" and if you say yes you're in
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Err. Out ;)
Abort parenthood quest
hahah in
@Loktar I don't have a strong opinion on whether it's moral or immoral, but I don't think it should be illegal.
20:21
!!afk vape and chick-fil-a sammich
but... you don't think anyone deserves to die at ANY point
I just support super late term abortion (capital punishment)
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We are all coming in pretty close with these extremely pointed questions
after being given a chance and failing, time to abort.
20:21
@Jhoverit you progressive. :)
@Loktar That of course assumes that an embryo is an "anyone"
But really though parents should be able to kill their kids before they enter kindergarten
it is if you include at any point... imo anyway
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@Luggage To be fair the only questions on that axis in this quiz are absolutely absurd.
Also, abortion isn't about what's deserved
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20:22
If you come out traditional on this quiz it sets off an alarm and you get thrown into a truck..... The end
I mean at what point does a human become a monster? If someone kills 100 people they still don't deserve death?
but a group of living cells does because of other reasons?
Jhoverit You genuinely are progressive, though, on social issues. Homosexuality, drugs, etc. It's not a bad thing. You are right leaning on other issues.
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@Meredith Yes Meridith, I agree with you.
my prostitution answer should go with abortion though
20:23
Stop spelling my name wrong
but I still can't get on board regardless
@Loktar Apples are a group of living cells, and they're fucking delicious
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Mewdith?
@KendallFrey so are people even out of the womb
something something Church of Euthanasia
20:23
on both counts (probably)
omg ._. lol
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@Meredith Hey I didn't spell it wrong...?
lol
4 mins ago, by Loktar
@KamilSolecki problem is people do it anyway, with no access to legitimate services
^ could apply to abortion but not on board
Prostitution is fun
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^ I would
20:25
also don't take my guns and I wont take your drugs!
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Nobody ever offers me anything tho
I think that's a fair trade lol
don't take my guns OR my drugs
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Better off with guns than everyone on drugs imho lol
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Better off with guns. Period haha
20:26
@Loktar The best pro-choice argument I've heard was comparing an embryo/fetus to a person severely in need of a kidney transplant, and the mother as a healthy person who is a match for the transplant. In such a situation, is forcing the healthy person to donate the organ (thereby losing the right to control what happens to their body) the correct thing to do?
@KendallFrey I remember taking that quiz a long time ago. What's the link?
Good comparations (ofc without logical fallacies) often change peoples' minds
@KendallFrey what % of abortions are due to the mom being in danger of dying though?
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^ lol....
20:29
What's 'late term'? Anti abortion people talk like it's any time before the second birthday.
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Hey the way I see it. You really think life is so precious that even the mere possibility of life HAS to be saved? (Early early here, I do believe there is a tipping point we could agree on with research)
> Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races.
Er... the human race vs others?
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Maybe I just don't love life like you guys :)
@Loktar Nope, you have that backwards. Should the mother be force to carry to term, thus losing control of what happens to her body?
@KendallFrey yea
you do the deed you grow the seed
not that hard of a concept.
20:30
> not that hard of a concept.
@Luggage late term is typically the 27th week
This is sick a wireless charging mouse arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/06/…
aka when the fetus is viable
viable as in it could possibly survive on it's own?
20:30
Just don't get pregnant
Ban sex
@Meredith I'm doing my part
@Loktar Should healthy kidney donors be forced to donate to sick people, again losing control of their body?
@Vap0r lol
@KendallFrey stop strawmanning
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Dude I don't even want to have legitimate kids lol, I don't want to bring another consciousness to suffer here for a lifetime hahaha
20:31
@KendallFrey I'm on your side but I don't understand the analogy either. Are you sure you have it right?
if it were the same it would be the same
but it's a completely different argument
@Loktar I don't see the difference. It's a person being forced to sacrifice their own body for the life of another.
^ yeah that is how I look at it also life=suffering
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Before consciousness (research!) I say fuckin pitch it. You're doing it a favor... But I'll try not to be so blunt about shit
@KendallFrey everyone having kids is not suffering and dying...
we've been doing it for quite a long time
20:32
@Luggage yes
@KendallFrey Just to be clear though fetuses really arent alive
@Loktar Neither is donating a kidney
@Jhoverit newborns are very adoptable. people like the non-used kids.
It's like trying to protect the life of a fish
@Meredith Well, that's a separate discussion
20:32
Like who cares
It's a fish
that's the current medical ( and therefore legal) determination of when life begins
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@Luggage Hey I defined my line. That doesn't fit in it :P
@Meredith a lot of people do though
@Meredith well, moreso they aren't born rather than aren't alive
a lot of pro abortion are very environmentally conscious as well
20:33
"pro" abortion
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@Meredith Well at a certain point it's not anymore, at a certain point there's a concious being (I think), at that point you don't kill it lol. IMHO
@Luggage lol I knew I'd catch crap from someone for that
Yeah when it's like 4
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@Meredith Are you for real
20:33
eh I mean that's something we will never change anyones minds on
I don't want it to devolve into a bad discussion
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What's your earliest memory @Meredith?
@Loktar Also, don't get me wrong, I think carrying a pregnancy to term is a morally virtuous thing to do, at least in the case where the child will have the resources to a happy life.
so I'll step away from it :p
auth0 = new auth0.WebAuth({ - is that ES6 and up?
Idk I don't remember
20:34
@Loktar meh, it's mostly fine if you ignore certain people
There is the distinction between moral duty and moral virtue though
@Loktar I think the term "pro abortion" is dishonest; no one wants to be in a situation where they consider or receive an abortion
I downloaded a sample from Sam Harris' The Moral Landscape today, I should probably go read it now...
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!!define pro
@Jhoverit pro ISO 639 code for Old Provençal.
20:35
I am with you on late term abortions being distasteful. I don't know, medically / ethically / whatever when a fetus becomes a person. Even thought I support the right to choose, I can't really argue against the idea that some people think of it as murdering children (at least very late term)
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Old Provençal Abortion (I have no idea what I jus said)
@KamilSolecki Welcome to Fetus discussion! Did you mean to post in javascript discussion?
All I'm saying is you can't be anti-abortion if you eat veal
> anti-abortion if you eat veal
huh?
...
nevermind, just ignore it, luggage.
20:36
Yeah good choice
@KendallFrey I listen to his podcast nd have been meaning to buy a book or two
Now Jhawins needs to delete his message. Thanks.
@Vap0r lol I think it was me. Ive been spamming JS in c# today morning, they probably got infected
That was a half-joke because if Vapor's image. you didn't really need to remove it :)
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I didn't see it I was working on something
carry on
20:42
Actually maybe we shouldn't.
Let's take this opportunity to talk about the interesting things going on in the land of JS
I'm a bleeding heart librul tree hugger
@mikeTheLiar has you beat
@TylerH damn dude get a hold of yourself
but he's a liar, so..
@Luggage damn khajiit can't be trusted
20:43
@Meredith found your chart :) politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-10&soc=10
racist :)
@TylerH unless you got coin
I'm not authoritarian
@Luggage Yeah, screw the aldmeri dominion, too ;-)
I just joke about being authoritarian because authoritarians are dumb
20:44
We'll see when you take the test. You do seem to be rather hard-line. :)
@Meredith whatever you say
I already took it
^^ because that's how she would like it
I was in the bottom left
ohh, missed it.
20:44
Idk if I posted it
hey one good thing we can at least say about all of us so far
none of us are scummy authoritarians
@TylerH may you walk on warm sands
Checks if Lenin's life support in my underground hideout is still running properly
@Loktar @SterlingArcher is. But only by like 0.31
20:46
@Loktar I don't know if that's because the test is biased or that's actually true
there's the other GH one, which is sort of close in questions I guess
I think it's because of the part of the world we grew up in (most of us)
but no authoritarians there either
Though, did you see the estimates for US political leaders? Ridiculously authoritarian.
Good thing we have checks and balances
20:47
I personally know some authoritarians (on the right)
was just playing a couple of js13k stuff. I kinda want to go back into making games
and Antifa type I imagine are a great example of them on the left
many of those politicalcompass questions were pretty loaded/unclear
@Loktar what the heck even is antifa
Us lefties don't want antifa. You take'em
well. i don't
bash the fash
20:49
I've never had antifa how does it compare to a fetuccini noodle?
damn you guys haven't heard of Antifa, they are crazy crazy crazy
i have, which is why i am trying to distance myself
haha
Serious JS question though - how could this be failing? Tried with presets for es2015 and es2016. Using babel loader.

var auth0 = new auth0.WebAuth({ - webpack fails on = sign
I wouldn't ever group you with them man
you're a reasonable human being
20:50
ty
I am trying to turn their political movement into a noodle
And cover it with sauce
@Vap0r you leave the Flying Spaghetti Monster out of this
PBUH
sargon of akkad talk about them constantly
I <3 him
He talked about noodles?
20:51
I agree with some things, but not all.
@mikeTheLiar the only reason I mention such a tactic is that surely in light of his noodliness the antifa shan't hold up to the main strain.
Hi! I'm trying to capture and change (web)socket packets. All I have is the stream itself, not sure how to read the entire buffer and pipe it accordingly. Any ideas?
I have an array of objects. I want to remove all elements with their object property name as null
filter
So remove all elements with their object property name as null
20:54
@Meredith I was about to follow up asking if forEach or filter was more appropriate.
bash the forEach
But really though forEach should never modify the array it operates on
@Meredith yeah but this forEach wouldn't modify it anyways because the information is coming from state
Just use filter
Thanks lol
If I need to filter and mutate from the source, should I filter then mutate in a .map, or should I do a .forEach and do both the filter and mutate at once? Or some other option?
jsut filter
output = input.filter(...);
If you MUST mutate, why?

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