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15:00
@BenjaminGruenbaum as @MadaraUchiha's boss, he can spend as much time as he wants here.
@Linkgoron I meant on CVs, and I meant you :P
I sat with you know who today. Turns out he's sure he's a great computer scientist. @Linkgoron @MadaraUchiha - it was a fun experience.
He's sure he did an excellent job on the data processing and scraping layer.
did he also solve the halting problem?
as a great computer scientist, that is
@Linkgoron You know who? Wasn't that the guy who proved P=NP or something like that?
nobody proved P=NP
and what's there to solve about the halting problem?
or are you all just shitting me and I'm here clueless?
@BenjaminGruenbaum have you started the new job?
15:10
@SterlingArcher No, he's an unemployed loser, and we should all point and laugh.
livin the life!
NO YOLO
ohhi
@Linkgoron apparently, we were very lucky to have him
@towc P=0 or N=1
@SterlingArcher July 1st
15:16
fair enough
...
@BenjaminGruenbaum gosh, how are you going to cope with all that free time? 😛 Your home must look like a Jackson Pollock painting
@SterlingArcher I'm finally programming a lot ^_^ also going to the beach, meeting people I promised to meet for a while and so on.
Oddly, I wake up earlier than before
That's great! I just got back from the beach, it wasn't all relaxing, but boy it was fun and refreshing
heh, I rather would sleep longer.
15:18
I am a little braindead at the moment (forgot my badge and computer charger) but I'm motivated today
I wake up at 6.15 on MON -> FRI
<_<
you're always brainde
eeeeeeeeee
@SterlingArcher I code from the morning all day, then at about 5-6 I do something fun (today I'm teaching a class, so not really the same) - typically go to the beach and smoke "herbal tea".
@BenjaminGruenbaum what are you coding, if I may ask?
is weed legal in isreal?
15:19
Meet with friends, talk about coding a lot - no deadlines, I wrote a few pull requests today and I want to figure out decoding.
@littlepootis no, but it's mostly decriminizalized and widely tolerated.
@SterlingArcher a few things, I'm working on learning how video works on the web, read the HLS spec, wrote a small video downloader to make sure I understand it
its a mess
HLS and DASH
Very cool! I'm very happy you're enjoying yourself bud, you've probably seen me, I've been diving into real-time react app development on my spare time here
And my gf is trying to learn linux, she's taken an interest in cyber security
So I'm trying very hard not to steer her, and let her learn on her own
I have been hired by a team for some project. When I saw the code, it was not linted, hence different coding styles. Not bundled for browser(10s of script tag). Everyone pushing in master branch. No tests. No SASS. I suggested Webpack, ESLint, branching, SASS. And got not neccessary. What should I do?
@jAndy it's actually pretty simple, I couldn't imagine a simpler way to web video than "split it into HTTP requests for video chunks". I was sure it was some UDP voodoo.
I was more talking on implementations to this very day.
15:23
@ankitbug94 as the team lead says.
@ankitbug94 leave, or cope
I couldn't bring mobile safari on ios / iPhone6 to play HLS or DASH natively
@jAndy hls.js is pretty solid - but do tell me more I'm a n00b
no support of MediaSource
@ankitbug94 oh I know the feeling
15:24
Unless you were hired for the specific action of fixing their development process, don't barge in with "do this do this and this", earn their trust, and start suggesting methods they could improve their process little at a time
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@BenjaminGruenbaum great to hear you're enjoying it
@jAndy What? iOS safari supports HLS natively.
You don't even need a JS implementation.
this feeling when you're the new guy and you're surrounded by super smart people is real nice
@BenjaminGruenbaum ?
@FlorianMargaine that's exactly what I was going for.
15:25
For example, I had the same issue, no tests, master branch pushing (3 different branches, with a manual merge process), and I started out by fixing the git issue by implementing a gitflow workflow. However, I was put onto the project specifically to fix the dev process
@SterlingArcher That's some sound advice to save me also
@jAndy in order to have safari play HLS, you just point a video tag to a m3u8 file and it'll take care of the whole thing.
@BenjaminGruenbaum what does that mean? You create a video element an link it a .m3u8 file?
lol
@FlorianMargaine I miss that feeling
but that doesn't work for dash right now right?
15:26
@ankitbug94 as for minification and bundling, write a PoC that does that, then initiate honest discussion about the pros and cons and be willing to listen.
Even if you know you're right, it's not your job.
If you have shitty plumbing and you hired your plumber to install a toilet and they'd replace a pipe instead I'd be pissed.
I know I'm still one of the dumbest at SNC but lately (last 7 months) I haven't felt challenged or needed anybody's help with say an algorithm
@jAndy no, but to be fair I didn't read the DASH spec yet.
Whereas a year ago I was working with our chief scientist to develop orbit algorithms.
I miss that feeling
@SterlingArcher Then, once you've gained their trust, slay them all.
@MadaraUchiha absolutely
^ this guy gets me
15:27
@SterlingArcher do you tell your boss that every month in your monthlies?
/s/gets me/fucks/
@BenjaminGruenbaum yes, they're painfully aware of my disposition.
@SterlingArcher nice
I crave a challenge
Installing meteor.js on https w/ AWS hosting is not my idea of a challenge
But, thankfully react at home is helping my brain
Real-time development is a challenge and I'm loving it
Synchronizing the socket session to the node server session was really cool, I dove way deeper into socket protocol than ever before
@BenjaminGruenbaum I am thinking of leaving it. I don't want to project to the team lead that I think I know more than him. But yeah, I will keep on finding work somewhere else.
LOL @BenjaminGruenbaum I puked yesterday because I couldn't bring HLS nor DASH to run on mobile safari and now you just told me it works out of the box.. which it does.. haha
I feel so dumb but also quite happy
15:32
@ankitbug94 you have two assumptions here - first of all: that you know more than him. Second of all - that you don't have a lot to learn from the team lead. I'm not sure that's the case.
Are they paying you well?
@jAndy sorry ^_^ HLS is an apple standard, Safari is the only player that plays it out of the box.
does that "auto magic" only apply to safari?
ok
All other browsers can't play .ts files, you need to convert the container from mpeg-ts to an mp4 they can read.
Definitely not. It is part time. I am in my final year of college from an elite university.
You have the hls.js project (full disclosure, my new employer is a contributor to the project) which does that for you.
15:33
cute xD
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Elite af
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm using nginx vod module which translates mp4 files on the fly to hls or dash
also... that's a situation that you can improve on over time. you can be the change that fixes that company's workflow.
So safari consumes HLS natively, and other browsers you can use HLS for.
which is quite awesome.. works brilliantly, just not for mobile devices (DASH at least)
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15:34
@ankitbug94 How much money was it (how elite)?
@jAndy It's called "demuxing" apparently (If I understood that right, converting container formats)
you just can't come in and change it all on day one
when i started here there was no version control, no dev, no linting, runnin on a pos local server
Nobody is going to take a freshly graduated junior dev seriously when they come in saying the current workflow is shit
15:35
plain text passwords
lol
@BenjaminGruenbaum how do we check for that ability of a browser? (supporting HLS)
good lord
it works on apple desktop safari also
@Jhoverit I dont know the culture of the wwhole world. But in India, Engineering colleges are worshipped and my college is in #5.
I know in US all universities are well funded but it is not the case with whole world ;)
fsu isn't well funded
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15:36
I was making a joke because in the Western world money == quality, for that shit, I guess
@jAndy if it's safari it supports HLS, otherwise use hls.js
their college of engineering is in a strip mall
I have seen some US universities with probably endowment > India Education Budget :D
@ankitbug94 #5 in India is hardly "elite", nor should that matter or should you brag about where you attended college - we're not recruiters.
@Meredith I met a guy during golf 2 weeks ago who went to FSU. He was in a frat, played 9 holes of golf every day with the womens team, and his frat house had 4 motorcycles, 3 boats, and a plane (2 of them ended up as pilots, 1 was the first KIA in Desert Storm) and he is now #3 in SAIC
15:37
Even if your university was top 100 in CS - so what?
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@ankitbug94 Well they charge their students hilarious costs to do that lmao
Doesn't matter what quality college you went to, it's connections and willpower
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My university was elite af
That man was the most driven, well mannered rich man I've ever met
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@BenjaminGruenbaum Top 100 wouldn't even be a label worth using.
15:38
If you're in a frat at fsu, you were rich going in
@Jhoverit in science it's the label commonly used.
Maybe so, but he didn't have a rich daddy mentality
Since universities change places every year.
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In science!
Are you sure cuz he was in a frat
15:39
the man earned his own wealth, with obvious growing up privileges
Rich daddy mentality is great by the way.
@BenjaminGruenbaum OMG! I must have projected something wrong. I was just trying to say that I don't care about that job when you asked about money. That's all. No Brag, No Show off. Nothing. FYI I don't even mention my college on my CV or my online profile. :) So, please take it easy
That's like the definition of a rich man mentality
@Jhoverit CS is a science
@ankitbug94 I'm not angry at you or anything, I was just commenting about how you articulated yourself so you consider using a different phrasing in the future.
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I'm pretty lost in this convo
15:40
You know some frat boys work very hard to pay their frat dues right? They're not all spoiled rich kids
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@SterlingArcher Do I have someone ignored that this was for
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Dude I bet that's it
@Jhoverit lmao take a guess
Not at fsu
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I forgot hahaha
15:40
Wait he blocked me
Thank god
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I was so lost, there were a bunch of out of place messages
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Nah I spammed the /add blocking users in a script the other day
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To trick another user into blocking everyone (and himself)
I was gonna block him if he harassed me again
HL3 announced
15:41
Oh
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Okay, since she immediately went batshit and said I was harassing her... Him?
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Hahaha. Reblocked, for the good of the community
@ndugger link?
@SterlingArcher I'd rather be a rich spoiled kid than not, poor people don't understand how money works often.
15:42
@ndugger I hate you
I'd rather not be spoiled, but I'd rather be born into an understanding of how money works.
😜🍆
@BenjaminGruenbaum lol
@BenjaminGruenbaum do all of them though?
@BenjaminGruenbaum I've never heard anyone say "oh yeah, I wish I was born poor"
15:43
@BenjaminGruenbaum You pretty much upbraided me ;) Well, no hard feeling. Bye
@BenjaminGruenbaum on the contrary, my father grew up in poverty, and learned from it the value of a $, which he passed onto his children
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My father showed me how to work hard enough that there's always more beer/drugs
@ankitbug94 to be fair, I guess almost everyone got the impression.
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I took maybe half of the lesson with me
@SterlingArcher people who are poor don't understand how fake money is.
15:44
You can always just shoplift
If you remember that then you're never truly poor
He was always honest with our growing up financial situation, and thankfully, we respected that. I knew my dad worked his ass off for us, and we didn't ask for much. We all got jobs early (mowing lawns, etc) to buy things for ourselves because we didn't want to ask dad for money
And that the only way to make money is to be a good investor and to be entrepreneurial
I stole candy when I was a child
He worked his way from a drywall construction worker to VP of the company by the time I was 18
I'm so proud of my dad
I used to steal baby bottle pops from target
15:44
@SterlingArcher I've been employed (pretty much non-stop if you consider the period in the army) since I'm 13, I wish I had a richer dad instead of one that pursued his dreams but at least he's happy and we're pretty well off.
@SterlingArcher that's not poor people "keep your head down and work hard" mentality
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm not sure if I'm following correctly, but it seems my father may be an edge case to that
My father is better than your father
The problem is if you try to work your way up the ladder you gotta push others down to do so
Empathy is for schmucks
Yeah basically
15:47
Climbing the corporate ladder doesn't automatically mean you're shitting on somebody else
Like by definition not everyone can be executives
Yes, somebody isn't going to get that promotion you earned, but that's not the same as blackmailing somebody to get that promotion
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Letting other people sit in the mud where they're content is not the same as pushing others down
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I don't have to carry everyone uphill lmao just because they're not interested..
15:48
@SterlingArcher it's not about shitting on someone else at all.
Although even if you are pushing people down, then you probably are better than the person going down - which is a win win, only a lose for the person who didn't work hard enough / wasn't on a right position for his skillset
@SterlingArcher Yeah but the point is that it's not possible for an arbitrary person to pick themselves up by their bootstraps
@KamilSolecki that sounds like a poisonous work environment.
My father's work history and ethics would argue otherwise
I just care about building cool shit, I never worried about money - and the money I'm making is from investing in real estate and other similar ventures and not from being an employee anyway.
15:49
That's not what arbitrary means
@BenjaminGruenbaum my dad paid for 3 kids colleges because of real estate investments :)
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!!learn failure <>http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/37581715#37581715
@Jhoverit Command failure learned
I still don't know where he learned to invest, but boy did he invest well
@SterlingArcher so how can you tell me he has poor person mentality :P?
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15:51
No one should be credited for what they accomplish
Poverty is a terrible cycle
He uses coupons
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It's all just a big system that randomly drops people into positions of wealth and power
@Jhoverit what? Why?
15:51
!!learn failure <>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FumEwFDq5mg
woot
@Meredith Command failure learned
@BenjaminGruenbaum I may be misunderstanding -- my dad grew up poor, but that didn't give him a poor person mentality
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You didn't do it. It happened to you. And you kept everyone else down to do it. You shmuck
If anything, the poor person mentality is what drove him to success
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15:51
@BenjaminGruenbaum You know who I am
@SterlingArcher Yes.
Poor people aren't even people
@BenjaminGruenbaum well, if someone will go down when you are moving into his place, that doesn't mean you blew your boss off. If someone is going down, then he most likely deserves it. (And yeah, we are excluding the cases of bad management / decisions on management part)
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Rich people are actually poor - Mer
@SterlingArcher No, poor people don't make clever real estate investments. They think about their day to day.
@KamilSolecki most people who are in weak positions don't "deserve" it.
15:52
@BenjaminGruenbaum oh sorry, I meant that his hatred of the poor person mentality drove him.
Blanket statements are the best
A lot of people were systematically oppressed which made them into a weak group.
Women don't deserve to be treated worse. LGBT people don't deserve to be treated worse. People of different color don't deserve to be treated worse.
We can't just fuck entire groups of people and then say it's their fault for having a shitty starting point.
"we" is they.
If someone is going down because they have to spend half their time taking care of a sick spouse.
Stop whining and do something.
15:54
There is no such thing as ethical capitalism
@Loktar no, we isn't "they". We are very actively fucking a lot of people as a society.
who is "we"?
My iPhone cost some kid his childhood.
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Someone update the room title to JS and trolls
@BenjaminGruenbaum so?
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15:54
Stahp
@Meredith disagree.
that's life, that's the world
But you still bought the iPhone, no?
it's ok to accept that.
I'm guessing at this point it would be ridiculous to ask for JS help
15:54
You're always exploiting someone
@Loktar so it's not fair to say that child is stupid, or lazy or deserves to be down (like Kamil implied).
@Loktar it's ok to be concerned about that as well though
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm sure that kid doesn't care what someone calls them on a chat.
@SterlingArcher I did. I live with that, not easily but still.
@Jhoverit Command failure learned
HAMMAHTIME!
15:55
Exactly, and you're not a horrible person for doing so
@GNi33 yeah definitely.
@Loktar It's not about that kid.
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Cistite
@SterlingArcher no, but we're a horrible humanity for doing that.
Let's never forget that.
@BenjaminGruenbaum maybe you are
15:55
Yeah it's pretty bad
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Sistite
MALLEUS TEMPUS!
but you choose not to change
Also every time you eat something with palm oil in it
why would anyone else?
15:55
Absolutely, but that's not something we can control
I change, I do my best to help. I spend a considerable amount of my time in this world thinking about how it could be better.
I mean you literally can control it?
I'd like to think many of you do too.
@BenjaminGruenbaum thoughts and prayers do nothing
absolutely nothing at all.
In the US we eliminated child workers, in countries we have no say in, they exploit them
15:56
@Loktar thoughts and prayers? Is that what you think I do :D?
> I spend a considerable amount of my time in this world thinking about how it could be better.
We have control over the companies that exploit them
so basically you do nothing
If I think really hard, grandma won't die of cancer
I think we have a moral obligation to teach these savages
15:57
like come on man
"hey apple you're not allowed to exploit child workers in china anymore"
> Oh no here I go expansionisming again
@Loktar I'm literally in a class full of improvised kids watching them practice programming right now. It's 5 times every week. Don't tell me I don't do my share - make sure you do yours.
You can't control a company using legal means of production
> today I thought about how bad it was someone made my cell phone, it made me feel good that I'm in such a position to think of such things. Then I went and grabbed a coffee and went on with my day
15:57
Jason is mansplaining to Benjamin
You can if you seize the memes of production
Offensive
The real solution would be on the asian countries offering the services
No, seriously, we suck. I live with that, but let's not be forget that.
@SterlingArcher sure you can, make said means illegal so the companies go somewhere else to be profitable
15:58
@BenjaminGruenbaum again you suck
Humanity is also great, let's not forget that either.
don't lump everyone in with you
We could do so much better.
They prefer the term orientals
@SterlingArcher you can still make a difference by choosing what you consume and consume less
15:58
then do better.
I try, do you?
Stop trying to make everyone else do it for you
Look at all this time Benji has to spend in this room
I consume everything
@BenjaminGruenbaum think humanity does exactly as good as we can
15:58
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm not the one with the issue.
@Loktar just because you don't acknowledge it doesn't mean you don't have it.
You can't be fine with millions of hungry kids.
@BenjaminGruenbaum I will continue to use fossil fuels
I've accepted that.
I will continue to buy cheap goods when I can
Humanity is like an IQ score, you don't increase it by making everyone better
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It's just a self rewarding technique.
I feel no need to virtue signal at all.
15:59
@Loktar that's not it.
I'll continue to buy iPhones.
All I'm saying is a global communist society is ideal
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There's nothing to change, nothing to work on, you "did great" by simply recognizing and admitting there was a problem baha
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Good work everyone.

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