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user1596138
16:00
Preferably somewhere not frozen. You can just pull it out it's not going to be much bigger than 2 bricks
don't start it up occasioanlly, it hink that encourages it to get water inside
see i didn't know that
(correct me if i'm wrong)
user1596138
^ Condensation bad
@Luggage me*
16:01
get a stand and do regular maint like oil changes and chain lube yourself (it's easy). consider a shop for the other things.
@littlepootis lol
I'll have to end up paying my brother for storage space at this point ._. I have nowhere to store a stand
sigh. i was told the xss vulnerability was fixed, but all they did was add client-side validation
I just stored my bike on a stand in the shed through multiple winters. no problem.
user1596138
@SterlingArcher You can get a stand that's small enough to carry upstairs to your room bro
16:02
oh word?
@KevinB I'm assuming it was persistent then.
a stand is small-ish. just a bar around the back tire
user1596138
Oh yeah for sure
ohh, and some bikes have a built-in stand
user1596138
16:02
This is a typical stand
Ok, so winter maintenance aside, what should I look for in a used bike that's a red flag?
yea that. I still have one. if you lived closer, i'd give it to you
not sure what you mean by that
user1596138
Holes in the motor firstly
user1596138
16:03
@Luggage you're in MD right?
yea.
i have an adjustable stand. you only need the 'pegs'.
i forget the right term
There's a fz-07 in maryland I might go check out in a couple months, would you be willing to come with me?
sure.
How far away from you is rockville?
Aren't you near baltimore?
user1596138
Honestly there's not a ton for you to really check. You prob won't be buying one that's been dropped and thrashed or anything
16:04
the other end of the state, but that's not a big deal.
rockville is just above dc. I am above baltimore
user1596138
You are really just checking brakes (those discs are hundreds of dollars), chain/sprockets (really not a big deal tho), and the motor
ah, well if I do end up checking it out I'll buy you lunch to be my inspector lol
I'd test ride a bike just to make sure it felt like it was running well. if they let me/you.
and then we can go for a ride if I buy it
user1596138
I want pics of that ^
you don't want me on the back of your bike.
No I mean drive your bike up :P
user1596138
I out a 250lb guy on the back of my DR350 once.
I don't have one any more.
user1596138
It felt like we were doing a wheelie the whole time and I fucked my rear shock hahaha
16:06
I only have a cage.
user1596138
@Sterling buy mine for what I have into it Monday when it's Mint lol
user1596138
I'm gonna trade it
Waaaat
@Jhoverit I'll give you 2 watches and a rimjob for it
user1596138
Lmaoooo
user1596138
Yea it;s just not QUITE what I want. It's a straight up motorcross riding style
16:07
I always wanted to fly
user1596138
I've jumped it already lol big time
user1596138
You don't even feel it. That part is amazing
user1596138
See how the seat like curves downward and is actually setup for a human groin
Did you see that fb video i linked you?
user1596138
16:09
Small differences...
user1596138
OMG dude I did that was fucking crazy haha
I was dying lol
Tesla needs to make a bike.
ohh.. imagine self-driving motorcycles.
I hope someone is working on that.
I'd like to see HUD helmets
Smart motorcycle helmets would be super sweet
possibly, but you don't need to see much.
you can tell the rpm by the vibration of your tesicles.
16:11
Maybe a speedometer and a non-vision blocking GPS
voice controls
ohh.. and a fresh tank of cold gasoline feels soo good on your boys in the summer.
My boys have taken so much abuse they never feel good anymore
user2620028
no seriously though, luggage is right
It's the small pleasures.
user1596138
@SterlingArcher we have those.
user1596138
16:14
Nuvix
user1596138
Nuviz
user2620028
@Jhoverit every time i have had to give a friend a ride on the back of my bike they refuse to hold on and they almost fall off at every stoplight
just wear a microsoft hololens :)
user1596138
You can buy it today for like $699. And if you crash it will kill you being strapped to the outside of your chinbar
It's not gay to wrap your arms around another guy if the alternative is falling onto the highway.
user1596138
16:14
@HatterisMad lol never had that issue!!
user2620028
the thing is i almost kill the bike getting it started so slow so it doesn't throw them off
user1596138
I rode backpack on a Grom last week lmao for like a quarter mile
user2620028
jesus lol
user2620028
i did that on every motorcycle taxi i was on in thailand
user1596138
I fell into the rear tire pretty much and bailed. We were in the grass haha
user2620028
16:16
didn't have footpegs or anything to hold onto
user1596138
^ read; I stood up lol
I have never had a rider. I didn't want to deal with it. But you need to tell them up front "when I shift into gear, grab and hold" or something liek that.
user2620028
and we were commonly lane splitting going the wrong direction down one way streets lol
Hi there
user7480455
question for some one that may know... it is about Date.parse
user2620028
16:17
@Luggage i would tell them that at the beginning, hold on like your life depends on it. This bike bucks like a bull and you will fall off if you don't hold on
user1596138
Riders are annoying af on tall bikes. I can barely get a to down. Honestly I can't take anyone not heavy enough to bring me to a height I can actually stand
Last one in stock, good price, new condition, old model
So pretty
user2620028
@Luggage they still wouldn't hold on. Eventually i would stop and say... ok hold on really fucking tight and watch this. And then i would make sure they are holding tight and i would smoke the back tire from a stop... and then they would hold on properly after that
user7480455
        var SomeDate = $('#WEBFIELD_DATE').val()
        var NEWDATE =  Date.parse(SomeDate);
user7480455
16:18
this is not working
user2620028
@Luggage after a year of riding 2up with my gf we got so used to each other that i could hardly tell someone was on the back of my bike
user7480455
it is giving a long number and not a date value
user2620028
until she fell asleep that one time XD
user7480455
and when you use the new Date.parse it fails
user7480455
and says date.parse is not a constructor
user7480455
16:19
not sure what that means?
@SterlingArcher yea. looks nice. seems like a decent starter bike that doesn't look too cheap.
user1596138
new Date(someDate)
I actually like it's sound too
And exhaust mods are cheap
user1596138
It's not a starter bike dude trust me. Go ride one lol
user7480455
even if it is a string?
user1596138
16:19
It'll take you a LONG time if ever to get to where it's not enough for you.
user1596138
@007 Yes
it's more of a starter bike than a 600cc 4 cyl
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@SterlingArcher Actually no. Exhaust mods are insane on a FZ
user7480455
ok will give it a try thanks
i think?
user1596138
16:20
@Luggage It;s like 70hp
@Jhoverit are you saying it's too powerful for a 1st bike that will last?
user1596138
It's the same thing
user1596138
No I'm saying it's just right.
user2620028
did he just say that was a starter bike?
yea, that's lower than my '03 r6 that was 100
and it supposedly has more usable mid-range torque
user1596138
16:21
And it's the smoothest twin I've ever rode.
what's the most concise way of getting the last directory in a file path with node. ie. in /Users/foo/documents/dir/bar.json, I want dir. I was using path.parse and going to split and grab the last array but didn't know if there was a better cross-platform method
user2620028
@SterlingArcher as long as you aren't a dipshit you will be fine on that for a first bike and it will last you a good amount of time before you will ever want to replace it ( if you ever do )
@HatterisMad I did, but I know it's at the high end of starter bike and i am using the term loosely
user1596138
You can scare the shit out of yourself with that bike, or you can go and have a grand time putting around learning and getting familiar. My Dad has one I rode it 2 weeks ago
user2620028
@Luggage im used to a starter bike meaning literally a 250 - 300cc lol
16:22
Wait it doesn't have a windscreen on it
user2620028
sometimes also being automatics
yea. that's a real starter bike
Aren't those required?
user1596138
@Luggage How much did you R6 weigh? This is <400lb, wet
auto? ew
user2620028
16:22
@SterlingArcher helmet
360 dry, about 400 wet
user1596138
@SterlingArcher No you don't need one it won't bug you.
user2620028
@Jhoverit i get bugged all the time
user1596138
My dad has a MadStad screen tho fully adjustable, not that expensive
user1596138
Idk guys I ride with an open face helmet and the wind doesn't bother me... Even on litre bikes lol
user2620028
16:23
@Jhoverit no i mean i literally get suicide buggers
I had a bee inside my helmet one day while on the move.
user1596138
Oh yeah. They get back behind my head on my open face if they hit right at the crack between my cheek and the helmet
So it's safe to say if I buy a Yamaha from a dealer it's street legal in every state?
user2620028
@Luggage did you do the correct thing? Drop the bike and scream like a girl while sliding to a stop in a fiery ball of gasoline?
Meaning it has no windscreen, it will pass inspection in VA?
user1596138
16:23
Yes. Possibly not to register in California tho
user1596138
Windscreens are not required anywheere lol. Eye protection is usually, which means goggles or a helmet with a visor
@SterlingArcher it's like a car dealer. you can expect those types of bike to be legel and they usually register it on the spot. at least when i got mine
user2620028
@SterlingArcher dude... windscreens are not a legal requirement
user1596138
Actually a wind screen wouldn't even count as eye protection.
unlike a car-dealer they also sell off-road bikes, though
16:24
> Virginia law also requires eye protection for riders in the form of goggles, safety glasses, or a helmet shield. If the motorcycle has a windshield, the goggles, glasses, or shield are not required.
user2620028
yeah even with a windscreen you need glasses at bare minimum
For some reason I thought windscreens were mandatory in VA
user1596138
Yeah it means a visor on your helmet. Not a windscreen affixed to the bike
I have a full face helmet anyways
user2620028
@SterlingArcher wear them regardless
16:25
no. just use a helmet. that type of bike won't ever look right with a tall windscreen
@HatterisMad def. I have all my gear, save riding pants
user1596138
@Luggage No it looks great.
yea, a full face helmet is all you need
user1596138
MadStad
user2620028
16:25
@SterlingArcher i don't have any gear lol
Wat
My jacket is legit af
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user2620028
@SterlingArcher yes but you don't have a motorcycle to go with it :D
user1596138
My Dad has this same MadStad setup, it comes up another few inches if you want. Looks super sleek
yea, that's not bad. I wasn thinking taller if you wanted no eye cover at all
16:25
@HatterisMad yet!
Gear is required in VA for the class -_-
user1596138
Well that right there is enough angle to throw the air over your head
user2620028
@SterlingArcher i didn't do the class
I would have done a permit but I don't have anybody to ride with me
user1596138
God maybe I just need a FZ07
user2620028
@SterlingArcher i didn't do a permit either actually
16:26
So you don't have a license?
user2620028
@SterlingArcher just went in and they asked if i did the permit and i said no, and they said well do you want to try the test anyways?
user1596138
That might be what I trade for. I should be able to pull at least $3500 on trade in for something new like that
user1596138
I don't have a license lol. But I am registered and insured
Y'all are lucky with the drivers'laws
user1596138
16:27
Been putting off the riding test just because it's a pita
In the us
hnnnggg deadpool jacket
user2620028
passed the test, on a huge stretched 1100
@SterlingArcher just take the class. it's worth it assuming they have bikes there. you get to do all the tight manauevers on small bikes.
user2620028
@Jhoverit what is so bad about it?
16:27
If I were to get a motorcycle it'd probably only happen if it were a TRON lightcycle or the one from The Dark Knight
@Luggage class is next weekend :)
user1596138
@HatterisMad You have to take time out of your day to do it lol
user2620028
especially on your bike dude it should be a breeze
user1596138
Yea I could do it in sandles
user2620028
oh yeah our dmv lets us do it on saturdays i think
16:28
How does the class work?
user2620028
@SterlingArcher same as driving class essentially
user1596138
Class will probably take you out on the road for 2-3 hours
in MD is was like an hour of talking, then a couple days of bike-play.
user1596138
At least in Indiana and Nebraska.
Here, we have up to 250cc if you are 18-23 and u can get a >250cc license when you are 24 OR had owned the previous license for 2 years
16:28
In classroom laws etc, then just go out to the obstacle course test or do you ride around and feel the bike out first
user1596138
We also have the option to take a 5-6min test. Weaving through cones, coming to a controlled stop from a specified speed within the box to stop in
@Jhoverit it's a 3 day class 😬 6:30-10pm froday, and 7:30am to 8:30pm sat/sun
user2620028
@SterlingArcher most of the people doing the test can't reliably get the bike moving in first gear, there will be a lot of varying skill levels and the instructor will do their best to try to accomodate everyone
they'll probably have you do emergency stops, maybe lock up the rear tire, rine in a cirle, do tight slow corners without putting your feet down
user1596138
Well that'd probably be good for you to help you feel more comfortable off the bat and such
16:29
mine didn't do any road / high speed
Yeah I don't think there will be legit road riding in this class
But I think we have to learn controlled swerves etc
a hard swerve, etc
@Luggage really? Here it's mandatory for a course to do 10h roads
exactly.
I'm very excited :)
user1596138
16:30
And the guys there will set you straight if you are doing things that obviously makes it harder for yourself
user2620028
basically exactly what luggage described is what the test was in my state
My cousin has a bike, but he also just had a kid, so I really don't have anybody to ride with :(
user2620028
there is no possible way i could have completed the test on my ducati though
if you like people, you'll love a bike. it starts a lot of converstions
user2620028
you have to do tons of low speed manuevers, and my bike has a turning radius of a couple degrees in either direction
16:31
most of them with men, sadly.
@HatterisMad what do you own?
user2620028
@KamilSolecki ducati m900
@HatterisMad that si one reason a class is nice. you can do those turns on THEIR bike.
I do love people
user2620028
@Luggage i managed it with my dads stretched 1100 cruiser
16:32
But I hate the bikers that smash mirrors and chase people down because they got cut off
I could probaly do the tight turns later on on my real bike, but when i took the class, no. i needed the little bike
Oh, nice! I have myself a Honda varadero, so I cannot imagine doing a course on it either
user2620028
passed the class, but i had never ridden that bike before and i had to drag the foot platforms to pull off the tight turns they wanted
user2620028
he didn't like that too much but oh well right lol
user2620028
@Luggage the bike i was riding literally just didn't fit inside of the cone course that they made
16:33
@SterlingArcher you may feel differently when you are full of addreneline and think some asshole almost killed you with their negligence. It's still wrong, of course.
Also, we aren't allowed to use our own bikes in Poland. They are provided for the test.
user2620028
you could tell it was made for a 250cc
Yeah, addreneline is a crazy mistress
user2620028
i had to do stupid shit like lock up the rear tire and slide the ass end around a bit to get it through the cone sections
user2620028
even then had to put my foot down to make sure i didn't fuck up my dads bike lol
16:33
@HatterisMad drift!
@KamilSolecki well, they don't know if said bike is inspected properly, etc. Insurance reasons.. blah blah. Plus if you don't have a license how are you getting the bike there? Illegally lol
user2620028
@Luggage not supposed to have to drift in a dmv test!
user2620028
@SterlingArcher typically you have a friend ride it over for you. and since it is in their parking lot then it doesn't matter if its road legal at that point
@SterlingArcher I actually drove a bike to my exam xd
@HatterisMad much like this?
16:35
or ride there with a friend following (leaners)
@HatterisMad still seems like more of a hassle
user2620028
hahaha thats funny as fuck
I did both, learners and class. a neighbor was real awesome and went out with me a few times
user2620028
@SterlingArcher still what is common though
@KamilSolecki lmfao
16:36
Is Node.js really as bad as people say it is, or is it just exaggerated?
user2620028
dude i would be afraid of getting that robe stuck in the chain
user2620028
that would fucking suck
@gloriousCatnip who says it's bad? we'll take our motorcycle gang over there and show them
@luggage Well, I read many programming subreddits on Reddit and I constantly see titles or jokes like 'node.js is cancer', 'who thought javascript for backend was good' and so on
@HatterisMad speaking of which, every time I wore laced shoes on a bike, I was subconsciously worried that they will unite and get stuck
16:38
You can find that for any language / system.
I also read a lot of "bad" JS is, but I really love it haha
JS is rapidly changing and so many people are stuck in the past
@gloriousCatnip most people who say JS is bad can't explain why
they don't realize what nice tools and syntax they have available.
yeah, I've tried to get into game dev for a long time and JS really made it easy for me to understand it
Maybe i'll try Node as well!
16:40
Just ignore any "x is cancer".
Also, on today's "stupid laws": In Poland, you have to wear LACED shoes for your bike exam. Meaning that 90% of biking boots won't do. They can deny an exam if you come in biking boots. So retarded.
interesting.
bike exam?
i think we just needed boots/shoes that were above the ankle
16:42
Motorbike
Oh haha
I was thinking about normal bicycles
I mean, it's strictly against common sense, as laces can untie and get caught up in any of the moving parts
tuck them in.
My boots lace up, then velcro covers them up
so comfy
that sounds ideal. best of both.
16:44
Yeah, but it's a "law" that should promote correct behavior
yea, well.. laws are often a little off.
Arent we all a little off :)
At least me, I'm totally fucked up.
Who wants to see the worst js file for a single page that they will ever see in their lifetime
@Kramb don't brag dude I'm sure I got you beat.
lol
hahaha I would take that bet
16:48
I'll judge.
No I was just joking when I found my old JS code on my hard drive I just threw it in a fire to purge it.
I'm pretty sure the hard drive cackled "thank you" before the heavy metals vaporized.
Damn I coulda beat you.
hahaha are you serious?
yea I've seen WAY worse.
this is the JS chatroom, man.
16:50
Oh, well that makes me feel better
I've been told my global variables are a nightmare, but I need them
Dude you show at least a grasp of jQuery. When I first started using JS, I didn't understand it, so I struggled for 2 months until I found jQuery. So I was using jQuery, without understanding it, which is built on JS, which I understood even less, and I had only coding experience in C++ and Java at that time, and I kept a lot of the same syntax.
well, you never need them.
I didn't understand CSS selectors
Are those variables used outside this file?
if not, you can just wrap the whole thing in an IIFE and they won't be global anymore. Solved.
Can you add a delay to a transition, or do you have to create a new animation with keyframes?
16:52
(or use proper modules)
@Luggage Nope, just this file
the just put this at the top/bottom:
So instead of like $("table > tbody > tr") I was doing $("table").get("tbody").get("tr")
(function() { //top

// your code

})(); // bottom
Wrap the entire files, or just where I instantiate the variables?
16:54
I wrote everything in a linear fashion, and only used functions when I used a chunk of code multiple times.
the entire file. You can also opt to have that done by a build process
(which is what i do, i never wrap in IIFE manually)
but for one file, this'll make it have no globals and therefore be a lot less for someone else to complain about
Instead of binding or using a temp var, I would scope everything to window if I couldn't access it within an event or function
Luggage please don't save this to show me later I live in constant shame
I never save anything. I remember and search for the message to shame you with on-demand.
Do you smoke?
not tobacco
16:56
You should smoke a lot and forget about this then.
Plz
i already smoke constantly. Still have a solid memory
Have you considered taking up a benzo addiction?
i'll step up my game, though.
Thanks dude I really appreciate it.
Out of curiosity, would the $(document).ready() function be an IIFE?
16:58
haha. But no, I really had bad code. It started getting better when I would come on here for help and you guys would be like WTF is this shit we won't help you if you keep doing this shit.
it's a function, so it'll still limit scope
no. but it can solve some of the same problems.
so yea, you COULD put all your code inside it. But no one uses document.ready any more.
we just put our <script> tag at the end of body.

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