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user1596138
15:00
Put it at peak torque ish and use the power from there..? Not burning my clutch
@Luggage Getting into the wheelie is easy. The hard part is not dumping the back into your spine.
5k wasn't peak torque, it was idle.
user2620028
@Jhoverit i just flick the throttle and it picks the front end up
@Trasiva well, yes, that was the fear.
looping it
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@Luggage Rev to about 11 so yea, 5K is at the beggining of the meat. You don't wanna have to shift
15:01
and when do I move up and sit on the front? :)
user2620028
oh but wait i have a dry clutch
user2620028
could you imagine dumping the clutch with a dry clutch
user1596138
And if your survival instincts know that kicking either foot down will throw you back to the ground you don't really have to worry about looping
yea. i was very aware of my rear brake foot being ready the few times i tried.
user1596138
Downshift or rear brake will just throw you back down lol
user1596138
15:02
Honestly I don't know why more stunters don't use rear hand brakes. So much easier
The best ones are when people get the bike popped, and then are running with it until the bike either rips itself out of their hands, or they end up looping it.
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My parts were supposed to come today. It still says they will...
user1596138
Louisville, KY, United States 06/07/2017 8:09 A.M. Arrival Scan
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By some miracle they'll travel 700 miles before 5 and be processed and delivered? lol
user2620028
@jhoverit hey what is wrong with my car, why wont it cold start
user2620028
15:07
have much experience with carbs?
he loves pasta
not enough fuel. or too much fuel
you're welcome
user1596138
@HatterisMad Piss in it
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NOS
user2620028
@Luggage probably too much air or not enough air
15:11
that's the same thing.
user1596138
The motor's like new right? Valve clearance causes cold start issues
user2620028
@Luggage thats why it was a joke
@Jhoverit how much should a starter street legal bike cost?
how much do you want to spend?
user1596138
15:12
@SterlingArcher if you don't want brand new... Pick how nice you want. Anywhere from $1500-4K?
user1596138
Honestly this is more a pick-your-price kind of deal
user2620028
@SterlingArcher you can buy perfectly fine rideable bikes around the $2k price point
I say this without judgement, but Sterling probably wants something that looks nice.
user2620028
it really is, i paid $2700 for my bike, but i paid way too much for that thing the way it was
@SterlingArcher I can make you one
15:13
@Jhoverit before 5?
my woodworking skills are coming along
UPS and FedEx both deliver til like 9PM
user2620028
@rlemon that thing would flex and feel so sketchy when you put the power down
I'm not gonna drop 7 grand on a bike I'm likely to drop.. I'm considering a street legal dirtbike
user1596138
15:13
@SterlingArcher don't buy a "starter" bike either. Buy what you want, just not something ready to tear apart the track. You don't want that "Until I get my next one" feeling looming the whole time
user2620028
@SterlingArcher not a bad choice, get an enduro like hawins has
@HatterisMad probably, but sometimes wood surprises you
user2620028
they are very forgiving
get a bike that has A/C, a radio and a reverse gear:
user1596138
@SterlingArcher Are you going to take it off the road? There's other bikes of that style to consider if you're going to stay street. Duke etc
user2620028
15:15
@Jhoverit maybe this is bad advice if you are giving it to someone who doesn't have a lot of hours logged on a dirt bike as a kid
Now that's style
user1596138
@HatterisMad I used to believe you should get tiny bikes but nah man. He's a big boy too. If you really want to get into riding buy something you will enjoy not something that will limit you, limit yourself
user2620028
@Luggage get a bike that you need a bottle jack to lift back up onto the kickstand if you accidentally drop it
get one of these @SterlingArcher
15:16
@HatterisMad there is probably one in the trunk. no problem.
they look super fun
user2620028
@Jhoverit im not saying tiny, i am just thinking cheaply replaceable body panels might not be a terrible idea at first for someone who is a new rider
How do those things corner at 150 @rlemon
yea, it'll end up on it's side at least once, most likely.
probably like a car
15:17
Neat
either way, the look super fun
user2620028
@Jhoverit in fact i have never liked the buy a 250 - 300 recommendation. I want enough power to get the fuck out of someones way when i need to
user1596138
@SterlingArcher you can get a pretty much brand new FZ-07 for $4-5K these things are fucking amazing to ride, so much power yet super easy to ride. stjoseph.craigslist.org/mcy/6151357775.html
user1596138
My Dad has one I want one myself
if I ever get anything without doors, it'd probably be a three wheeler.
but I probably won't
user1596138
15:18
@rlemon get a sideXside lol
user2620028
@Jhoverit same bike your brother bought? except a year newer?
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@HatterisMad No my brother has a FZ-09!
user1596138
Well he sold it
user2620028
why?
@Jhoverit is that a sport utility golf cart?
user1596138
15:19
He bought some giant boat bike that weighs 800lbs. Idk. He's nuts
I saw a bike that looked like a mini street bike but was super fun looking. Not really mini I guess but maybe like a foot shorter. It had a square looking headlight. Don't remember the name but I think it was 4 letters
like a goldwing?
Any ideas?
user1596138
Yeah but less practical lol
street bike = what? sport bike? cruiser? standard?
user2620028
15:20
@SterlingArcher i almost had hawins sold on a late 90's ducati monster about a month ago. He found out they were really cheap $1k-2k range.
is what I assumed he was on about
that fits the description..
@rlemon yeah it was like a new age version of that. Kind of low like that with the handlebars. But was brand new and the guy said there are aftermarket turbos to boost the speed
i'm not sure what that would be called. The bars are awefully low like a sport bike, but naked
user1596138
I am swapping magneto cases on my motor tonight. They have put the starter cover on with 3 JIS (kinda like Phillips) screws with red Locktite lmao
user2620028
15:21
@Luggage cafe racer
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Suggestions?
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Other than crying
HatterisMad hm yea...
Ahh I found it. It's a Honda Grom. Was a bit off on the handlebar height.
that front tire looks like a skinny car tire
user1596138
15:22
I have one of these amazon.com/gp/product/B000NPPATS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary Hoping I can do it otherwise.... Idfk. Why would you put a motor together with locktite and screws
like, flat, not rounded.
@Luggage kinda reminds me of modded up old indians
Those wheels look comically tiny
Haha yeah they do. I'm too terrified to get a bike because I'm afraid that I'll dog the shit out of it (I will) and die (I might).
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@Luggage I rode one finally. I actually did 30 miles on one... Fucking joke man lol
user1596138
15:24
I bottomed out the front forks just braking. And I only weigh 150
That thing kind of puts me at ease because I feel like it would be easier to control and harder to die on... maybe?
kinda reminds me of a... what was the harley-owned brand of bikes with belts instead of chains?
and the frame was the fuel tank..
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@Vap0r Tiny wheels and short short wheelbase actually makes for a MUCH more unstable ride
sharp turns
@Vap0r being lower to the gound so you can flat-foot at stops does help you feel better, but it's not really important on the road
user1596138
15:25
You want to be as tall as you can for maneuverability. Not tiny lol
@Jhoverit damn dude then what should I get? I have a problem where I go absolutely as fast as I can on any road. That's why I avoid bikes because if I make a mistake on one or if someone makes a mistake into me I'll be dead.
user1596138
@Vap0r A head check. Stop doing that :P
you'll ride a bike like you drive a car.
@Jhoverit but he's from Florida
What's a head check?
15:26
don't tell yourself "i'll be safer on the bike"
user1596138
Idk I can't recommend a bike that will fix a reckless rider
@Vap0r a visit to a doctor to make sure you aren't crazy
If you can't flat-foot, you can look into low-profile saddle.
Oh shit lol gotcha.
user1596138
I'm reckless too lol.... Pulling 90 through the turns by the river out here on a dirt bike lmfao
15:27
Are sidecars still legal?
user1596138
Get a fast one. That's your answer
If I lived in NC with my folks I'd get one. But if I'm gonna do 100-120 I can't do it in Florida. These drivers could do anything.
@TylerH of course.
so are trailers
user1596138
@Vap0r Get a bike like mine where pushing the limits happens at 70+, not 100+
That's why I always liked cars. Crashes at 80+ would have a lot more metal around them.
@Jhoverit perfect.
15:28
Well I just haven't seen a sidecar being used in my entire life outside of movies/tv shows
What do you have? @Jhoverit
So I didn't know if the lack of use was because of a change in law or not
i've seen sidecars on the road many times.
user1596138
If you're like me you want to push but that doesn't mean you need to go 100+, just need to get a bike that has to be pushed harder at slower speed
"It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow"
15:29
^ that's kind of my thinking for bikes. Get me something where going 70 feels like I'm murdering the bike lol
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@Vap0r I have a 09 DRZ
Buell. That's the brand i was thinking of
And that's why I liked the grom. He said "yeah it's low powered so once you get used to it you'll outgrow it quick, but that's where the aftermarket turbo comes in. Once you outgrow that you can sell the bike and get a new one"
user1596138
I'm 6ft and can barely get a toe down lol
15:31
Oooh MDN beta
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You can't push a Grom under any circumstances whatsoever. Just can't. It doesn't have power and can only lean a few degrees
That might actually be the way to go. Is that your bike pictured @Jhoverit?
so different!!! O_O
Sorry somebody came and talked to me
user1596138
15:31
@Vap0r Yeah in front of my car
The ideal bike for me is like a Honda CBR650F, but idk
I'd rather drop $1k cash, anything more I'd just finance from a dealer
a crotch rocket
@Jhoverit that might be like perfect man how much was it? How does it handle with street tires?
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@SterlingArcher Have you ridden those? Better start holding yourself in pushup stance now to prepare
@Luggage technically it's a standard
user1596138
15:32
You'll be holding the weight of your upper body on your arms the entire time
I know you guys are jealous of my car
nah. My fat out-of-shape ass could ride a sport bike, Sterling can.
you hold yourself up with your back/legs. if you rest on your hands they'll go numb.
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@Vap0r I got it for $2500 with 5,900 miles but it has a cracked magneto cover on the left side so leaking oil. New parts coming today... I have about $2750 into it and it's worth about $3800 after today's repair
15:33
Nice job dude! Sounds like a good purchase!
user1596138
@Luggage Your back bro
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How long of rides did you do lol
sometimes a few hours. more legs than back
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Hands go numb after the first hour anyway from vibration
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More legs than back?
user1596138
15:34
That's not possible. You're leaned forward
yea. i don't know how to explain it, but you aren't just holding yourseld up with yout hands.
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Unless there's like ligaments that go from your thighs all the way up to your shoulders through your back lol
Anyways, my ideal starter bike is like a shitty 400+cc standard
@SterlingArcher you have some options between that sport bike and a 400cc boring bike
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My 400cc bike is tits
15:36
like some of the sportbike-derived standards.
i don't care how flashy it is, so long as it's got a decent pickup, doesn't sound like a taco-tuesday aftermath, and works fine
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@SterlingArcher DR650S
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No srsly dude you should test ride a FZ-07. I bet you buy it
user2620028
@Jhoverit I would suggest a solid mixture of crying, heat from a torch, a couple good hammer whacks, and vice grips
@Jhoverit also the wind can help you stay up without much mucle.
user1596138
15:37
@HatterisMad They're too tapered to vice grip, also I need to save them :/
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@Luggage Hahaha true that especially with my open face
user2620028
@Luggage its called laying on the tank lol
that gets uncomfrtable pretty quick, but needed at high speeds
I'm better off putting away money until next year spring and using it as a down payment for a new bike
Are all dirtbikes street legal?
15:39
ok... so how in the hell am I supposed to get node-gyp to work on windows now?
user2620028
@SterlingArcher do a 2001 M900 fun, pretty, and cheap. Like the girls you met in college
look for the term 'dual sport'
The most I want to spend is $1,000 on my first bike really. Otherwise it'll be used and financed
I can't find Visual Studio 2013 anywhere
and 2015 doesn't work
user2620028
or do what hawins said if you want to spend a little bit more and go with the FZ-07, basically the same bike i am recommending except a little bit better specs and its an all digital bike with FI instead of old tech and carbs
15:40
does it have remote-start?
anybody on windows that can get node-gyp to work from scratch?
I like how that Fz-07 looks, but it's $7,000
@Shane 2015 works for me
get a 5 year old FZ
user2620028
@SterlingArcher $1000 seems like an unrealistically low price for a bike, you aren't too far off but i would be thinking closer to $2k
15:41
it does? ... hmm
you can find FI bikes from early 2000s
I tried it and it kept failing, is there a path I need to set somewhere?
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@Luggage on a bike i prefer carb, but maybe thats just me
You can get something you wouldn't mind being seen on for 4k
Actually I have 2017 installed
15:42
oh... huh
I've only ever rode FI, actually, but the throttle response was better than most cars i have had.
The other issue is finding a dealer that has the right bike for the right price at that level near me
@BenFortune did you do anything beyond installing it?
@Shane not really
I've reached the point where I'm starting to froth a little...
user2620028
15:42
@SterlingArcher part of the problem there is that you are looking at a bike from a dealer
ok, crap... I'll try 2017 then and restart
maybe that will get it
I never installed 2017, just 2015
@HatterisMad craigslist is pretty shit
@BenFortune thank you sir
user2620028
@SterlingArcher dealers are even worse
I never said it'd work 😛, but I never had to do anything extra to get it to work
15:44
haha, right
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@SterlingArcher every car i called on at a dealership this past week to purchase had a blown engine, every single dealer told me that they were perfectly fine
well... it's a starting point
@SterlingArcher FZ6: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_FZ6 It's a sport bike engine, but in a more daily-driver-friendly shape. Still looks nice, but less aggressive and more practical.
just to be clear, you're talking about this instance, right? visualstudio.com/vs/visual-studio-express
and a used one is probalby reasonable in price
user2620028
15:45
@jhoverit have you ever ridden a cbr?
So where do y'all get your bikes from..?
Not sure it's express, just know it as
user2620028
@SterlingArcher i have bought every vehicle i have ever owned off of craigslist
ah, so you've got the full suite then?
It's the community version
15:46
@Shane do you haven an msdn license?
nah, no interest in one either for what I'm doing
i got my only bike new from a dealer. I'd buy used if I were to do it again.
craigslist in my area doesn't have a good motorcycle market
@TylerH this is a personal project
user2620028
15:47
@SterlingArcher where are you at?
user1596138
@HatterisMad Yea
@HatterisMad VA
user2620028
@Jhoverit did you like it?
user1596138
@SterlingArcher You want to spend $1K on a bike lol
user2620028
@SterlingArcher so you like the hypermotard style bike?
15:47
@Shane This page details how to get a copy of VS 2013 Community for free visualstudio.com/en-us/news/releasenotes/vs2013-community-vs
I have this code in my render function (I'm converting old code to new):
        const alphabet = ["#","A","B","C","D","E","F","G","H","I","J","K","L","M","N","O","P","Q","R","S","T","U","V","W","X","Y","Z", "See All"];

        let filter = {
            items: [],
            mobileItems: []
        };

        alphabet.forEach((letter, index) => {

            filter.items.push(
                <div className="letter-holder" key={index + "_" + letter} onClick={this.handleFilterBrandsClick.bind(this, letter)}>
                    <span>{letter}</span>
                </div>
(see full text)
user1596138
ANd if you look at used FZ-07s they're like $5K or less often
@Jhoverit cash
@HatterisMad what?
user1596138
Oh $1K down?
15:48
@SterlingArcher a 2-cylinder?
cool, all I really need is the C++ compiler and for some reason MS doesn't offer it standalone, or if they do it's buried
Either that or some POS for $1,000 haha
I found something I thought looked promising but it didn't work
Since it never changes based on state or props, and this component might be re-rendered many times, it would be a good idea to remove it from render
at least not from installing it via chocolatey
user2620028
15:48
@SterlingArcher google hypermotard and look at the style of bikes that pop up
My question is what is the correct react-y way of doing this? I could throw it in a function call generateAlphaElements or something like that and call it from my constructor like so:
@Jhoverit are you jhawins?
@HatterisMad hyper-differently-abled.
this.filterElements = this.generateAlphaElements();
user1596138
15:49
@Shmiddty Yes look at my swag jesus face
user2620028
@SterlingArcher no.... no its not
That way it would only run once. Is this the right way to do this in react? Should I set the components state for this?
I love those ducati standards
user1596138
@SterlingArcher you know how much money you're going to spend on insurance if you finance it lol
15:50
yes! that's the one
user1596138
Compared to buying outright
@Jhoverit "our lord, full of swag..."
user2620028
@SterlingArcher they took the original bikes and did some sort of modern facelift on them and now they look like frankensteins bride
user1596138
Oh maybe nbd for you.
@Jhoverit I have really good insurance, they should offer me a good rate
user1596138
15:50
@SterlingArcher I bet you'd like the Aprilia Shiver
"...hella be thy name"
Aprilla's are gorgeous but there are none around here
user2620028
@Jhoverit what about a buell, i think luggage may have said it earlier but they are really neat bike
user1596138
I have no experience or desire to have any experience with Buell
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@SterlingArcher Got that right
15:51
@Shane Aside from following the instructions here on using it, that's the only place to find and use the C++ tools separately AFAIK
user1596138
@SterlingArcher Triumph Speed Triple? Has been being made for a LONG time fuckin tight and moves the hell out. Prob affordable for used
that's perfect, I'll give that another try then... thanks @TylerH !
Best of luck
@Jhoverit the used market here is garbage :(
grazi
15:52
It's all 1981 harleys or custom mods
I think there's also a C++ chatroom if you want to test your luck there 0:-)
user1596138
It is everywhere for anything but the common af bikes
@SterlingArcher 1981 harley with a custom liquor drawer would be nice
In a react component class, where is the best place to put a run-once function that returns elements, and how do you make those returned element sets available to the render function?
user1596138
15:53
@SterlingArcher get like an old old Super Magna lol. Cheap as balls. Sexy as fuck
With a used bike, what do I need to look out for?
user1596138
From when cruisers could still be sport bikes
What's a lot of miles? Chain maintenance?
user1596138
Chain and sprockets are cheap geta good deal and those don't matter... IF you are going to be willing to stick them on yourself. Otherwise yea that'll be a few $$$ at the dealer if needed
@TylerH - I think this link might be what I was missing: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/f2ccy3wt.aspx
gonna try that, if it works I'm going to see if I can get them to update node-gyp's README, that package is a huge problem for windows
15:56
@Jhoverit what about required tools?
I think node-sass has a problem with it too
I don't have a garage
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@SterlingArcher I'm gonna get one of these someday I swear lol desmoines.craigslist.org/mcy/6158428805.html
user1596138
Don;t you have a whole house
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Living room haha
15:57
lmao im not driving a bike up indoor stairs
ffs am I muted?
user1596138
@Vap0r Make them a property of the class during constructor (or whatever), reference {this.myElements} in render
@Vap0r depends on what part of the lifecycle you want it to run. I suggest componentDidMount
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@SterlingArcher Idk I literally bought a bike with a hole in the motor, so don't ask me what to look for lol
Alright. Thanks guys. Back to bike chat :)
15:58
@Jhoverit what about basic maintenance? If I ride it to work that's fine, it's healthy, but in the winter I assume I have to warm it up every few days?
user1596138
@SterlingArcher No just put 80:20 antifreeze:water in it so the coolant doesn't freeze and shut the gas off.
I'd probably store it (winter) in my brother or uncle's garage
@Jhoverit but the battery?
user1596138
It can literally sit in the show all winter nbd aside from plastic and such getting brittle and fragile
user1596138
Well yea put your battery on a trickle charger during storage

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