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19:00
5/7 crop
why does Javascript have a prototype based framework instead of a class-based ?
@Meredith I love how he thinks his dad gets to decide who he will marry
i could have sworn i saw a tool that showed graphql graphs and let you query them
no idea where or what is was called..
@KendallFrey It's indian humor
I'm finding a few, not sure which ones are good
19:02
graphql -> graphviz
got a new make task to write :)
History. No one knows.
@Roshan because of the languages that inspired it, iirc
@ThiefMaster did I win? :D
19:03
The guy who made javascript didnt know how to implement classes
@Meredith sadly possible
@Luggage asked twice
It's 100% why
19:04
source?
Why would I have a source on something I literally just made up
Nobody asks that. Why was there was a civil war JS prototype based?
very poor response indeed as expected all talk no walk
@Meredith so, buzzfeed, then.
j/k ;)
is chat is lame
19:05
Buzzfeed does actually have sources
@Roshan you can stop with that
@Meredith "Find Out Which Disney Prince You Are!"
They asked real disney prince's
More like "pick a disney prince and we'll guess your height and age"
& guess what
You become that height and age
The tickets are now diamonds!
19:08
@BenjaminGruenbaum I now I proof that I actually did the presentation :-)
I'm a yarn convert. So much faster.
@SterlingArcher my nether regions are confused
@Luggage Andrew Jackson is dead and leave the civil war out , and just give a proper and polite response to the question
19:09
If you'd like to converse, then converse. don't demand attention/answers, please.
Now I'm officially getting married in 2 years
Fantastic
The hotdogs, not marriage
marriage is a sham
Lemme guess. That handsome one on the right?
@rlemon IS THAT CORN SILK
19:10
I would think that you'd be happy for me
@KendallFrey and red onion skins
best hot dog ever
im not even happy for me why would i be happy for you
contrary to whatt stackoverflow stands for @Luggage
@rlemon NOW my nether regions are confused
I haven't planned what I am doing next week. I could care less about what happen in 2 years.
You might as well discuss the end of the universe.
19:11
My nether regions have left me for another man :(
I'm getting married in 2 years
ohh, actually, i am interested in that
None of you are invited
@Meredith 3.1 :(
@Zirak if I get married you're invited, but you have to wear the horse mask to the reception
19:12
GOTG vol 2 finally
@rlemon Dude you needn't ask
Aren't you already married
@Meredith Not legally
I'll get a flock of horses (yes, a flock) and we'll do an entire horse dance show
we qualify for common law.
19:12
Canadian marriages need to be renewed every 6 moons.
but haven't got married, no
So like a gay couple
exactly the same.
@Meredith A common law gay couple, sure
except they can get married in Canada
19:13
I got bradley cooper
I will participate in the canadian mating ritual
@rlemon whee, civilization!
@rlemon's living for years with the friggin love of his life? Gaaaaay
Just like Brad, you try to make the healthiest choices as much as possible. But, you both love a good dessert
@SterlingArcher I didn't know you were into bears
19:13
@Zirak dude. 7 years in August.
time flies.
great movie, Time Flies
@KendallFrey fucking how long have I been asking you to fucking send me that bear fucking book
@rlemon That's a long time
ok maybe there was one too many fucking in that sentence
but my point stands
is chat skewed towards absurd and retarded-ness , where is the moderator
19:14
@SterlingArcher I like how the last one isn't even for emphasis
My favorite bear movie is brother bear
Tell everybody im on my way
I am the moderator
I am a horse lime
I'm a horse lemon
@Roshan When you come back, you are welcome to discuss JS questions, but off-topic is allowed and no one is obligated to help anyone, including you.
19:15
Dude you seriousl
oh, I've got a js question!!!
@Zirak is the answer jquery?
The answer is always jQuery
I'll give a ES2015 modules vs. commonjs (node) modules lecture, what was weird to ya'll about es modules?
Also, did you know Canary (chrome 60) supports modules now?
19:16
named exports vs just regular destructuring.
I don't like that you gotta use babel just for import/export
@rlemon Interesting, 2nd person to mention that
I think we used named exports
@Meredith Browsers are implementing modules
Like I said just above
@Zirak it was pinned. I thought.
export {client};
export {io};
yeah, we use named exports
but you'll still need babel for a while if you support browsers.
@SterlingArcher But...why
idk, I wrote it a year ago
what would you do?
export client
Or at least export {client, io}
19:18
@SterlingArcher What would Jesus do?
oh, but that's just simplified
He'd fuck shit up, Jesus was a terrible programmer.
export const client = ...;
@SterlingArcher What you did was complexified
I was learning how dare you
19:18
@KendallFrey God is my pair programmer
Another question, tell me if this statement is new or weird to you: export exports a variable binding
default imports are the worst
@ssube defaults allow some things that non-defaults so not
@Zirak example?
19:19
@Luggage such as?
import React, { Component } from 'react'; // valid
import * as React, { Component } from 'react'; // invalid
defaults can be combined with named.
you shouldn't be exporting a default to begin with
isn't it part of the spec?
or, yknow, react shouldn't be
it is, and it's unnecessary and only breaks things
What if I stick to a one-class-per-module rule and like default exports/imports?
19:20
l
preferring one export because you have one class is the most plausible use case
Just put all your code in one file
90% of my code is that way, conservatively
I almost always have a constructor options type alongside the class and may be adding GraphQL schemas, soon
plus interfaces, which I like to re-export, so I regularly use import {Interface, Implementation, Options}
Yea.. as I export more things (usually interfaces for ocnstructor options) I name those
import SomeEditorComponent, { ISomeEditorComponentOptions } from '...'; // and the options would be an occasional import that I often don't use
19:23
// @SterlingArcher
import { incBar, bar } from './bar.js';

console.log(bar); // 7
incBar();
console.log(bar); // 8
In that example, i see how you wouldn't like default import/exports.. but.. history.
history of my code, i mean.
@Luggage yeah, it's aesthetic for me as well, for the most part
@Zirak seems useful for dynamic config files maybe?
But for a regular variable it just seems like a scoped global
although you do get into weird typedefs with * as imports and stuff can accidentally get copied more than it ought to
I already spent the time going through and testing ALL my imports to fix for TS
19:24
@SterlingArcher "scoped global"?
It's a variable binding
Glorified?
@SterlingArcher a singleton
idk the word im looking for
You guys listen to the new mastodon
mastodons went extinct thousands of years ago
19:25
I only listen to Rush Limbaugh
Well first of all theyre not extinct
I love Mastodon
@ssube Something that I've found default exports to be nice with is for exporting a nice wrapper for the functionality. Like, you've got a file handling some complex piece of logic, you've got exports for doing the nitty gritty work, and a default export doing the nice, general 99% use-cases thing.
19:26
I posted that song weeks ago lol
@Zirak I can see that, but plenty of libraries do that by exporting a function and some types, like {render} or {compile}
and the function is the entry-point, using the types
@SterlingArcher but they make a quite good sound
Unpinned Neal's expired invitation to meetup
Anyone listen to the new slowdive
@tereško clearly they're busier than a beaver
!!afk vape
19:28
It makes me want to get a bowl cut and do heroin
don't do that
bowl cuts are ugly
smoke bowls don't cut them
They're important to the shoegaze aesthetic
you can have long straight and mostly unkempt hair for shoegaze
!!urban shoegaze
19:29
as long as you aren't taking care of it but it can still cover your face, it's fine
@Luggage shoegaze A style of rock music that emerged in England in the late 80s that featured blisteringly loud and dreamily reverberated feedback. Recently revived by electronic bands like M83 and Ulrich Schnauss.
@Luggage any indie band that has so many pedals they have to watch their shoes
8 string guitars are a good tell
@ssube djent brooo
Alternatively: any band where every member is so high they can't look up
@Meredith those intersect heavily
why else would you be using so many pedals?
19:31
er.. why is nothing complaining about this code? Isn't this invalid syntax (the arrow function)?
Gonna get that haircut
//don't parse times. leave them as strings.
types.setTypeParser(TIME_OID, value => {
    return value;
});
The one on the left
I mean right
@Luggage looks fine to me
19:32
ohhh i misread.
i was thinking two-argument arrow function
@derp
and that's why god made parens
or whoever did
but, why not just value => value
i think it started with more code in it
ahh
rip it out
19:33
well, it needs to stay, but it can lose the {}
@ndugger can you make me a Master Chief octocat?
you're good at that actual art thing
Only @ThiefMaster can make you a Master Chief Octocat
In title and in name
that's what I want it for :D
hey @rlemon or the others who are into tiny computers, if I wanted to stream video over wifi from a rpi zero w and send basic commands out to some motors, where's the place to start? Specifically, software-wise. What do you typically put on these things?
When you stumble on an old file that was just transpiled from Coffeescript.. 🤢
19:38
then he can change his name to MasterThief
would a go daemon with a REST API and video stream do it?
@ssube check out motion package.
has integrated http proxy iirc
is that a package, or is that the name? google is playing ignant
apt package
apt-get install motion
it needs a few other things iirc. google "motion + rpi" should give you some tuts.
ah, I see
19:41
it advertises as motion detection. but you can just ignore that and use it to stream constantly.
right.
and setting up something to take commands and operate the motors should be easy enough
I'd just do that with two node apps.
have them talk via your preferred socket.
I was going to write it in Go, if I can, to learn that and for the memory footprint (or lack of)
JS on the client to control it and drive around, got a little 6" tank chassis
Does it have a tiny cannon?
You aren't starting an upskirt porn site, are you?
not yet. I'm not sure what to put on it besides amazon.com/SainSmart-Infrared-Surveillance-Raspberry-Arduino/dp/…
19:44
speakers and a mic
no? I don't believe in sharing
Make a tiny tank to patrol your property
I am making a tiny tank/mars rover
you'll regret not being able to talk to people via the bot
speakers and mic for sure
19:45
use ronald reagan's voice
@rlemon that's a good one and easy to wire in
use some ir to detect ledges behind and beside you
only other thing I can think of is a scoop.
I've got a bunch of distance sensors and stuff in a cheapo kit from amazon
could build myself a full on MALP
making your own ir sensors is pennies.
IR sensors of what, though? Distance, temp?
To see walls or to see drop-offs?
19:48
both
how?
angle it at a 45 down and away for ground. straight back for wall.
I'm drunk and I can't find a cause for it
what kind of IR sensor do you use for thaT?
I spent my day being tired and working and going out of my way to help people at school. Came home,spent some time on the laptop
then I just felt drunk
19:50
I'm not a doctor.
now you are
diagnose me
It's lupus
It's never lupus.
I'll even open my mouth if you don't stick anything meaty in it
That'll be $400
19:51
@ssube take a phototransistor and a ir led and cone the led and fuck with the distances till you got a good buffer.
Like you havent had any alcohol and you feel drunk
Thats not good
that's diabetes
does that mean I'm pregnant?
or death
have you eaten?
19:51
a lot
ir for distance is pretty easy to build and cheap af. you just need to either have two physical emitters and receivers, or a wide spread on the emitter and two receivers.
Too much robitussin?
!!wiki robitussin
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@rlemon oh. So I could place the IR LEDs so they form a light field around the probe, then have a few sensors and the camera pick that up.
19:52
oh no, I haven't taken any medicine
@towc Have you considered that you're not drunk but just a fucktard in general?
and the lights would only help the camera, I bet
Like do you feel dizzy and nauseated
@Zirak being a fuckturd in general, I wouldn't know how to tell
You might have a brain tumor
19:52
@Zirak you win the right to the god damn point award
no, the IR emits and if there is something there it bounces back. the receiver picks that up and says "OBJECT HERE"
@Zirak that only explains most of the symptoms
you have one for when there is no longer OBJECT HERE for the floor, and one for when there is OBJECT HERE for the back.
then your front facing camera doesn't have to turn fully around to not back into shit or fall down stairs.
they use the same IR that a cheap B&W camera picks up, don't they?
@Meredith is this one of those internet things where you go there and suddenly you have everything, and in the analogy you're the internet and I'm the clueless person with no issues?
19:53
so they would act as spots for the camera
did it happen to any of your relatives?
and sensors otherwise
@ssube likely.
I mean it's a pretty serious thing if you feel drunk but you haven't drank
Probably not a brain tumor but it's not good
@ssube yea, i suppose. my idea was to put them on places around the bot where you won't often turn the camera.
19:54
@Meredith it could also just be low blood sugar or dehydration
it might just be a lot of tiredness and not giving fucks. I genuinely feel exactly like I feel when I'm drunk though
@ssube oh that might make sense
@rlemon I'm all about having two on the back and one or two in front, especially since I already plan on doing a bunch of canvas stuff to render the video and blend in the IR and other sensors.
But you're not disoriented or anything
@ssube ohh, in that case you should just use sonar.
you'll get much better data
@towc drink a coca cola and two glasses of room temp water, lie down, call a doctor if it gets worse
19:55
@Meredith hard to tell? Don't think so
but I'm usually not when I'm drunk either. I guess I just haven't gotten drunk enough
@ssube coca cola for sugar?
@rlemon I have at least two of those, as well, and they seem to be cheaper. Then I can project something on the HUD like Google street view does.
@towc sugar + caffeine + same pH as your stomach
@Meredith It's probably because he's a fucktard
oh, didn't know that
it's a good emergency stopgap for a few kinds of shock (but I am not a doctor)
instructions unclear - fuse box filled with cola.
19:57
That's why they have coke machines in hospitals.
yeah, it's a real thing
@ssube it does sorta make sense
The doctors empty the can into a bag, administer it via IV and charge you $1000
@Luggage Classic Dr. Nick
Part of the charge is that they have to shake it to get all the bubbles out.
or you explode
19:58
I can see that in an xkcd
> No mentos for 24 hours. Call me in the morning.

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