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16:01
afk, going to cycle home
so i won't reply for ~30
he's on SO, ping him to join us in here
we call it summoning
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okay, now we wait
ah ...
my problem may be isRequired = (isRequired || false);
it displays undefined :|
IT MUST BE "TRY" OR "FALY"
isRequired = !!isRequired;
16:06
* scratches hair *
what if input is string ?
hmm ...
true
gotcha use ternary
wait ...
>.< my mind QQ
@bitten have you tried the CDN versions?
I don't know your validation rules, I was just guessing in the blind if only true or false was required
@Luggage webpack can pull from cdn's?
16:08
This will be non-trivial to solve, but if the CDN version work, I can help you tell webpack to use them
@BenFortune sorta.
You can use those, and tell webpack to just use the global variable they set when you require.
@jAndy isRequired = true -> input field is required. Not filling in = no submit
but it's a mess from co-worker
What did one wall say to the other wall?
Meet you at the corner.
Monica from Maryland, your joke was bad and you should feel bad for submitting it to Laffy Taffy.
what did apathy say to the problem?
the CDN version gives the same error
16:15
Haha, that's dumb
@rlemon I don't care.
@AmericanSlime because you're a terrible person?
@rlemon That was the answer to your question and/or how I feel.
@AmericanSlime because you're a terrible person?
@rlemon We have a winrar.
16:18
7-zip
Seven dimensions of zipping.
What happened to .rar files? How come everyone went back to .zip?
@AmericanSlime no one bought winrar
user2620028
i actually worked for a company that bought winrar o.O
user2620028
and teamviewer
companies buy winrar
otherwise winrar can sue if they use it
16:29
People still buy software? What happened to being a professional pirate?
indeviduals not so much are a concern
@AmericanSlime they're terrible people
user2620028
has winrar made enough money to afford to sue anyone?
I never understood the need for getting custom zip software when Windows has it built in, which seems to be good enough for most cases.
@bitten I'm pretty sure it can be shimmed, but I'm giving up. It works from the CDN, but not if you copy locally and use it through webpack. I tried telling webpack to not parse it, but.. didn't quite work.
These earbuds of mine are sensitive to static electricity, which I never knew was a thing. Never had this problem with those cheap Apple ones, but dang these things crackin' like pop rocks in my ear.
16:36
Where's @ssube ?
@HatterisMad fucking lol
Hi, would these be the most applicable chat to ask a question about JSON formatting?
@wizkids121 Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
Well, I just want to make sure I'm respecting the room by actually asking a question in which this room is most relevant to
16:50
Ask us about our wiener
the irony
@wizkids121 This room is likely appropriate
@wizkids121 ask away.
So I'm trying to build a star schema which is used to push an API call into a BigQuery table. The problem is, the way the vendor structures the name of the attribute might be problematic because instead of being "state_metadata" it is "state (metadata). The presence of the space and the parenthesis tend to be problematic when its trying to read the fields. Is there a way I can reformat that name so its acceptable for BQ to read?
16:59
in JSON, the keys are in quotes and can have spaces..
I know nothing about BigQuery.
you could use regex to clean up your strings, but yeah, I know nothing about BigQuery either. I've never even heard of it
Interesting. Alright, I suppose I'll take this to more BQ familiar folks. Regardless, thanks for the input!
So, they guy I knew in college who was arrested for attempted rape just pinged me on facebook with some sketchy shit...
Can I just say, as far as Stackoverflow goes, this is definitely the chillest group of people I've seen
> Him:yo did you ever get in contact with jolly
Him:please let me know
Me: ?? jolly?
Him: his nick name is jolly
Me: I have no idea what you're talking about dude
Him: did shaq hit you up about a guy I asked about
What the actual fuck man
17:04
wtf
> You know who I am right? We haven't seen each other or talked in like 3 years dude what are you going on about?
Turns out wrong Jordan
So sketchy... last time somebody talked to me like that it was about drugs
Hey, atleast he knows Shaq
But he's facing B&E with the intent to rape so yeah prolly that
idk the details, so I won't judge, he wasn't a weirdo in college
17:06
What drug's nickname is jolly?
but idk
Dude no idea... I left that scene 2 years ago
Shits so weird now
In Vegas at 5am, you'll hear some crazy shit. "Yo man wanna bite down on some Q? It's pure"
Da fuq is Q and why do you have to bite it
Q likes it kinky
!!afk drugs are bad
why is the deep web/ dark net so frowned upon and treated mystique?
I never really used any TOOR client and tried to get into the topic so far, but the idea of non-listed non-DNS servers is as old as the interwebz itself no?
@jAndy I have no idea what you're asking
17:15
TOR sites aren't just unlisted, but masked.
your traffic goes a lot of places and is hidden in other traffic to try (and fail) to hide your activity form someone watching you.
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user1596138
@jAndy It is very very different from an unlisted site
@KendallFrey I'm just wondering why in general people just talk
under reproached hand about the dark web
user1596138
But you've read the front page of Tor I'm sure. So you would know that
17:18
@jAndy probably because of its association with illegal activity
is that the case?
user1596138
Yes. Everyone knows someone who buys drugs off the darknet lol
user1596138
And things escalate from there..
black market trading, underage pornography, etc... It's not a happy place.
17:19
I mean... illegal activity is everywhere, doesn't mean a whole country or section of the web is illegal
It's the dark underbelly of society
user1596138
@jAndy That's all that's there
@Luggage yeah that's what i was doing before, but now i've been asked to bundle my builds together and i'm already using webpack, so..
1) Who in their right mind would put a legitimate website behind Tor?
2) Who in their right mind would put a criminal website behind IP?
but thanks for having a look, appreciate it
17:19
which is better to use "defer" or "async" for loading the JS?
using TOR, by itself isn;t illegal, but it's often used for illegal things
@MadaraUchiha I hate you
i can't figure out how to tell webpack to leave it alone either :p
user1596138
Unless you need to communicate semi-anonymously that's all that's there lol
i guess that's what i'll do this evening ^^
17:20
@KendallFrey question is I would ask myself: Does Tor really provide "security" for my illegal action or is it just a hoax anyway
having TOR installed is like having lockpicks, a balaclava, gloves and duct tape in your trunk.
from "official" side
user1596138
@Luggage Totally not illegal except for in absurd states?
it's just one more layer. doesn't matter if it's fool proof
but will make you look damned suspicious.
user1596138
17:21
In NE they've got to prove criminal intent to do jack about picks etc.
love you all
as it should be.
@>> "your traffic goes a lot of places and is hidden in other traffic to try (and fail) to hide your activity form someone watching you."

That actually sounds quite alright to me. No matter what you're up to, you should not be watched by any one.
@jAndy yeah that's the idea behind tor
and i agree
Right. But it goes above and beyond SSL. It doesn't just hide the traffic, but the WHERE you are going. I'm not saying TOR is wrong. I support the idea of these tools and they have legit uses.
especially if you are in another country that isn't as free as the US.
though.. in those countries, just using TOR might be illegal.
17:25
I'm really wondering if the underlaying technique really is "save" in a way that nobody can watch you (authorities)
It's not. Governments have been able to track people.
sounds more like controlled sandbox to me :p but I'm quite pessimistic
@jAndy isn't it just like, there are all these exit nodes in a network
and the traffic going through these exit nodes filter through more nodes and end up at you
so it's hard to identity where the connection is coming from since many people can come out of an exit node
and hard to trace since it's filtered through other nodes?
so i guess it's a sandbox but i think we can, just by chance, share an exit node
@Luggage that is actually pretty much why such "true private" networks should exist. I wouldn't say the the US is that free in this way. Information what you know and what you should not know is everywhere, also the US
just use IE5; nobody will believe that you even exist, so you'll be safe
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17:28
kek
if everything is watched by "some authority" - who's to decide what's legal and illegal. You might go to jail because asking the wrong questions about 9/11 (as an example)
the government decides what's legal
who is the government
The government is the government
are you daft?
but in the US, we don't. We can ask questions about 9/11, even host websites saying it was an inside job and we don't go to jail.
17:30
It was more a rhetorical question
Try that in Russia.
idgaf about online privacy
Or Iran, or Saudi arabia, or even China
@Luggage That's actually an interesting point. US citizens might no go to jail for claiming or saying such things, but on the other hand.. why wasn't there a semi-revolution about all those lies
why wasn't Bush sent to hell
because noone had the confidence to do it
17:32
which lies?
You think the US did 9/11?
@Luggage just as on example: The entire non mentioning of the collapse of WTC7 in the official government statement
@jAndy maybe they just saw what was happening and someone decided to burn some records in wtc7 as it was a good time to get rid of them
Where up to this date, no reasonable explanation is there why it perfectly collapsed (symmetry)
Go talk to @AmericanSlime. He likes these conspiracy theories.
there you go.. you call it conspiracy. Why?
I guess there is no authority necessary to arrest US guys... ignorance is enough :p
17:35
@jAndy symmetrical collapse isn't hard to explain at all
@KendallFrey for a 67 level building?
I've been hearing this for 15 years. Just because I'm not willing to entertain it again with you doesn't make me ignorant.
with no impact or any explosion or whatever... bring it fourth
I genuinely have no idea why my code isn't working, it should work, and it doesn't and I don't know why, and I want to cry. cries
I've just seen the video. There's nothing that appears to be unusual about the way it collapsed
17:36
you're probably chasing the wrong problem.
Did someone say flat Earth?
I've gone through everything, made sure everything works, and I don't know....
I've seen dozens of videos, none of them made any sense or could explain it
Ohhh, 9/11...inside job all day, no questions asked.
inside of Saudi Arabia.
17:37
@jAndy That's probably because they didn't try very hard
Tower 7 is the smoking gun that everyone wants to ignore.
and then again, the biggest point for any "opposition" is that it wasn't even mentioned i the first 9/11 commission report. I mean come ne... that wasn't nothing, we're talking about 67 floors
There was kind of a lot of other stuff going on at the time
the report came out about 4 years later Kendall
plenty of time
let's go back to talking about online privacy :p
that's more important
17:40
For me, going back and watching the videos from the day it happened and seeing all these witnesses say the 'plane' they saw wasn't exactly a plane, but some unmarked military looking drone aircraft. All these innocent people wouldn't lie about that the day it happened, and then looking at the footage supports that theory. Not to mention the 'plane' that hit the Pentagon left zero evidence behind and on the security footage it looked more like a missle.
So let's assume 9/11 was an inside job. How does that make it more likely that something will be left out of the report?
It's an interesting example tho in that context...
because public should not know, or ask any painful questions for one?
@AmericanSlime 1) I've seen the footage, I saw a plane. 2) Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable, to the point of being nearly useless.
I mean be honest, how often do you hear anything about this particular stuff on "CNN" or any TV
and.. what of all the footage that clearly showed a plane?
17:41
and people keep passing around pics of the pentagon that were not the main impact point
it was straight out hidden and excluded from US public
@KevinB what plane? there was no plane, we're talking about tower 7
@AmericanSlime "zero evidence" is an interesting way to describe a destroyed building
@KendallFrey The plane is dark and unmarked, and looks like it lacks windows. It doesn't look like a commercial jet, and there was at least 10 people that said it wasn't a plane. The chances of so many people being wrong doesn't make sense.
@jAndy You are, we're not
17:42
@AmericanSlime really, don't listen to eyewitnesses
@KendallFrey Zero evidence of a plane is what I meant.
@AmericanSlime "The chances of so many people being wrong doesn't make sense"? Then what about the thousands of eye witnesses and thousands of dead?
@bitten Who do I listen to then, the government? People at ground zero that were there when it happened are a lot more reliable than any press release years later.
What about firefighters and policemen and air-traffic control people?
@AmericanSlime 1) Show me the footage where the lack of windows is evident. 2) 10 people out of, remind me again, how many people were in Manhattan at the time?
17:43
@AmericanSlime in this case, i wouldn't listen i would just watch the videos
The footage I saw does look like a commercial jet
@KendallFrey (2) They don't count because they don't support his theory
@AmericanSlime but they are also not.. take every eyewitness account and you'll have n different stories. i wouldn't be surprised if people thought it was a bomb, or a hot air balloon, or a car, or superman
I really don't care about the entire rest of "strange" things that day, as long as the best explanation the US government can come up with is: "a normal fire in an office caused it" to let 67 floors collapse in free fall, symmetric and clean.
that is mental
No it's not
17:44
@jAndy are you talking about wtc 1 and 2?
Is this really JavaScript group?
bcos 7 was not symmetrical
It's probably more than 10, I just referencing the ones that I saw. The same people said one of the planes looked legit, but the other didn't. Why the hell would they make that distinction?
you can see the inside fall, on the left side first
that's really common
17:45
cascading structural failure is pretty simple, and explains perfectly how all areas of a building can collapse together
inside meaning like the inner structure
@bitten you see the penthouse collapse first, that is the top most 2 floors or something. The rest goes down in symmetry, glorious almost
@AmericanSlime because the interviewer lead them
once you have parts of the building needing to suddenly support twice what they were designed, it all comes crashing down
@KevinB The day of though? Nobody would have that conspiracy so early.
17:46
When you get a massive surge of adrenaline, it really messes up your memory. There was a car accident I was in that I didn't hit my head, and the airbag didn't even go off, and I can't even remember what happened right before the accident. My memory of the incident is gone. I bet that would explain some of this.
why not?
@AmericanSlime Because they just saw two giant buildings collapse and they're confused and terrified as fuck?
@AmericanSlime because if you have ever watched a plane fly into a skyscraper and explode then your brain goes WTF and you experience so many emotions, you're not just not in a good state of mind. memory is a fickle thing especially when your adrenaline is probably the highest it's ever been.
you have no proof that they didn't lead them, :)
What ndugger said.
17:46
my favourite on this context: youtube.com/watch?v=v-27FGbpBk4
What about the footage someone had, that was recorded from another building, and there is a slight explosion before the plane even hits.
you can see the inner falling way before
it's so common
poor quality camera
@AmericanSlime And where is this footage?
Let me find it.
17:47
@AmericanSlime what about the one where the plane exploded and the fireball formed the shape of a skull?
@KevinB Why do all conspiracy theories involve low-quality footage?
because low quality footage is low quality
what is low quality? In that sarcastic song you see the free fall from like 25 different angles
@KendallFrey Same reason UFO abductions only happen in Texan corn fields to aging farmers
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17:49
again, talking about falling at gravity.. caused by a "fire". You don't ask any questions hearing and seeing that?
@AmericanSlime If 9/11 was a conspiracy then how come @Loktar is a paedophile?
@jAndy I'd fall too if I was on fire.
because BBC
I can't believe yall want to discredit the people that were there when it happened...that's ridiculous.
BBC === Because Bill Clinton
17:49
7/11 was a part time job
Clinton did 9/11
Trump did 2016
@AmericanSlime it's not me who wants to do it, eyewitness testimonies are rarely taken srsly
@AmericanSlime Who, the thousands there who disagree with your viewpoint?
@AmericanSlime Oh, I am perfectly ready to do that, and so is anyone familiar with human psychology
I understand eyewitness testimonials are sometimes not reliable, but we're not talking about 2 people here.
Rule of thumb: If your point can be discredited by saying the same thing against you, then it's not a valid point
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@AmericanSlime No, but you are talking about the vast MINORITY, and most of those people believe in multiple conspiracy theories, like bigfoot.
@AmericanSlime okay but then there are eyewitness testimonies who say that it was a plane, so there's no point to be made
I still can't believe that the story alone.. with the official information that was provided by us gov and seeing the pictures on the other hand, doesn't make you guys doubt :p
that's also a little ridiculous
17:51
bigfoot is blurry
that's the problem
why do none of the people with high quality cameras capture bigfoot footage
@bitten he emits blur-waves known to fuck with recording devices
@rlemon Fucking blurrons
@jAndy I'm perfectly willing to believe that 9/11 was orchestrated by the American government, but no one has ever given me a good reason why I should believe that.
@Zirak jury is still out on that. we're not sure if they're waves or particles.
17:53
@rlemon They're both, obviously
> I'm trying to solve Advent of Code day 8 (http://adventofcode.com/2016/day/8) and I'm using JS and I've gone through my code and it doesn't look like anything is wrong and nothing should be wrong but it's wrong and I'm going insane and I'm insane and gAH
https://gist.github.com/TristanWiley/5c430165d1d9a02f72b34016b527fa5f
This is my code, actually gone insane.
tl;dr my code doesn't work, I think it should, but it doesn't. Insane. Any help would be lovely.
@Proxy "typescript playground" is safe by the way...
@KendallFrey 2 planes hijacked by box cutters take down 3 buildings. Does that sound believable to you?
@TristanWiley you know better.
@AmericanSlime Uh, yes
17:54
give expected results, and what is happening
@rlemon there's a large out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside
today, no, but back then? absolutely
@KendallFrey ehh didn't I just ask a pretty tough question about wtc7? The silence from official site for the first years, later coming up with ridiculous statements with an ordinary "fire" bringing 47 floors to fall at speed of gravity and stuff?
All the 'hijackers' were Saudis, but we never stepped foot there, which is very odd.
and if that is not enough.. what about ae911truth.org ?
like 2000 of the great architects and engineers who ask the same questions
17:55
so silence = lies
It's like Chinese attacking us, and we invade Russia, that's what they did.
@jAndy Another rule of thumb: If a website name ends with "truth", it is to be discredited
@jAndy The statement that freefalling building collapse is ridiculous is ridiculous
I bet you also believe that ISIS isn't real
@KevinB I remember as a kid (pre 9/11) seeing a sikh get on a plane with his ceremonial blade
17:55
@Zirak the people behind it are damn serious guys anyways
@AmericanSlime So Al-Qaeda and Taliban aren't real organisations
what the fuck is all this
@jAndy man, it was like the biggest attack on american soil since pearl harbour. the gov was.. well cray
@SterlingArcher connorspiracies
And Bin Laden was just a guy caught up in a big misunderstanding
17:56
god dammit
@SterlingArcher jAndy and American Slime are idiots
jandy and waxi are uncovering truths
if you look at the behind the scenes pictures/docs of how they handled it, it's pretty mad
@Zirak I'm not saying that, but it's weird that they all came from 1 country, a country we never looked at during our retaliation, that says a lot.
@AmericanSlime what does it say exactly?
@AmericanSlime Because it wasn't sponsored by a country, it was sponsored by a terrorist organisation
@KendallFrey haha yes
If you want to destroy Scientology, you don't declare war on the US
😞 I need to fix that &t thing
17:58
well sorry
I guess the story makes more sense that .. a small group of arabs in the caves and desert of Afghanistan planned and operated the biggest air-to-ground mission without specialized military equipment ever... making a fool of all multi billion dollar defense organisations
It says that we're closely tied to the Saudis and this was a botched operation. We now know that Bin Laden and his cronies were trained by the US.
@jAndy Dude, you don't know a thing about terrorist groups
They're the real deal
@Zirak I just rephrase the official story, Dude
you trivialized it
17:59
Filled with very, very capable people, and that's part of the reason stopping them isn't an easy task
@jAndy Compared to "The American government decided to kill thousands of its own citizens as an excuse to kill even more people in Afghanistan"? Hell yes.
@KendallFrey would not be the first time, would it

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