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4:00 PM
ST3 ftw
 
@SterlingArcher By the way, I distributed your email to a bunch of advertising companies that specialize and selling Viagra. I hope you don't mind.
 
I switched from VScode to atom
 
@Trasiva as long as they offer a bulk discount idgaf :D
 
@ssube Aha. Atom is great. Still lacks some things; like debugging. If VSCode can rival extensions of Atom.. it wins for me
 
@SterlingArcher Pretty sure it's a ten thousand unit minimum order.
 
4:00 PM
@RoelvanUden I haven't used a debugger in years
 
Viagra is for squares
 
Rather write tests and logging ;)
@SterlingArcher no bulk discount, only girth
 
@RoelvanUden dooood
lol you watching channel9?
 
!!s/squares/stiffs./
 
4:03 PM
@Trasiva Viagra is for stiffs. (source)
 
!!youtube tsol code blue
 
@RoelvanUden I've been using vs code for a couple weeks. It's actually pretty nice
 
@Loktar ye
 
4:09 PM
Whenever I attempt to output an array as json array, it resolves to a collection of json objects. Is there a 101 for figuring this out?
 
define "json array"
 
I guess he meant just JSON
 
Well...I can't, and that's the problem.
 
so what is your input
and what is your expected output
 
the list = [...] is what I'm trying to output.
 
4:11 PM
that is not JSON
 
When I see the response in chrome console it's Object,Object,Object,Object,
 
because.. that is what they are
Objects inside of an Array
 
Sigh...okay so I'm doing something else wrong
 
JSON is "Javascript object notation"
Meaning it's the string representation of javascript objects
If it's not a string, it's just javascript
 
what is important to remember, is that JSON is not JavaScript
 
4:13 PM
Okay, well is this [{"name":"Truck1"},{"appointments":{"class":"open dragabble","title":"booking","end":"4:00","start":"6:00"}},{"name":"Truck2"},{"a‌​ppointments":{"class":"open dragabble","title":"booking","end":"0:00","start":"0:00"}},{"name":"Truck3"},{"a‌​ppointments":{"class":"open dragabble","title":"booking","end":"8:00","start":"19:00"}}] incorrect for the link I shows?
*showed
 
that is just an array of objects
 
Right, and that's what schedulerjs is asking for ?
 
yes
appears so
 
Oh god... I just realized something
end 8am, start 19:000
the dummy data ends before it starts
 
@SomeKittens ping
 
4:18 PM
!!poutine or not poutine
 
@rlemon Both!
4
 
but
that
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:?
 
I didn't even know she did that
 
heh
my boss was just telling me about VSCode
was singing its praises a bit
All I hear is... "Hey VSCode has a lot of the stuff Sublime has had for years!"
 
I just see it as a re-skinned atom with native TS support :p
 
4:21 PM
wow
 
It's still pretty nice though
 
@BenFortune thats how I see Atom vs Sublime :p
but slower.
 
I actually prefer Atom to Sublime :/
 
went on the VSCode - page for the first time, all I could think of was "this thing looks exactly like ST"
 
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I need to try Atom
 
4:22 PM
that's all just stuff emacs has had for decades.
 
My first use of Atom.
Still not fixed
and as of Sep is still affecting other users lol
 
that's funny.. i used atom on windows and never had that
thought.. i gues not much
 
Been looking forward to github.com/limetext/lime for a while, they don't seem to be getting anywhere though
 
your fault for having your desktops in the wrong order
 
4:24 PM
I have a personal announcement; After just a month and a half of (kind of consistent) working out, I'm down a pants size.
 
@Nick Can you see your penis yet?
 
I was never that fat
 
When I work out, I go up a pants size
If you get my drift
 
I went down 4 pants sizes before buying new pants
 
spell it out for us
 
4:25 PM
Jeans were literally falling off
 
Yeah, I've had to start wearing a belt with just this one size down
 
Good job though ^^
I've just started eating healthier. Going to start going to the gym once I get a stable job
 
yea, I'll start going once I.. whatever..
 
God, I was going to get a gym membership
 
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@Nick and what is your pant size
 
4:27 PM
I was shocked to find out it was like 400 dollars for a year
 
user1596138
Numbers or gtfo
 
@Cereal The fuck, it's like £7 a month here
 
@Cereal cheaper than a bypass
 
@Jhawins 38 now... The moment I hit a size 40 was when I realized that I was a fat fuck and needed to make changes
 
@Nick I'm there, juggling between 40 and 42
 
4:28 PM
MAKE IT HAPPEN, BEN
 
@BenFortune Yeah, so I haven't gotten a membership yet. I don't have the money
 
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@Nick So you're like a 38-XX? I always forget which number is which
 
Too depressed to do anything
 
The biggest change I've made was to completely cut out sodas and energy drinks
 
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My 30s fall off of me I have a belt 100% of the time..
 
4:29 PM
@Jhawins 38 (width), 32 (length)
 
@Nick I drink 1-2 of those a day, totally addicted
 
@Jhawins i hate you
 
I've been a 32 length for a good while now
I'm a bit tall
 
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Wait no
 
I'm 34, Ithink
Highest was 40
 
user1596138
4:30 PM
I wear 32s. Always look for 31s, Levis makes them
 
@BenFortune I used to drink sodas an energy drinks like they were water... Seriously, I was in the same place you are now. You need to cut them out of your diet
 
Might be 32
Oh right, I'm 34, used to be 32
@Nick \o/ energy drink diet represent!
 
@Nick Did you just replace them with water? I'm completely addicted to the taste and caffeine
 
Fastest way to lose weight? Get a tape worm.
 
4:31 PM
Microsoft’s cross-platform Visual Studio Code app is based on technology from Github’s Atom editor ^
heh didn't realize that
 
@Loktar They use electron
 
@BenFortune Same here; I love the fruity carbonated caffeine goodness. I didn;t go cold turkey, but I did start replacing them with juice, then with "La Croix" water, then with just water, but I do occasionally have a "Completely Zero" (zero sugar and calories) monster.
 
It's even advertised on the electron site
 
LOL wow MS
 
4:31 PM
Just cut out the really shitty sugars
 
@Nick Those taste like ass
 
@BenFortune Well, you can either drink ass liquid, or continue to gain weight from all of that disgusting sugar; your choice
 
lol slack.
Slacks application is so bad
 
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4:32 PM
Electron isn't a full suite
 
@Nick I hate energy drink zeroes. The sugar is the only reason to drink them >.>
 
I just use the web vs
 
@BenFortune I was in the same place; I understand
 
user1596138
Or whatever
 
@Cereal For me, I drink the sugar/calorie free stuff to kill my craving for the real thing.
 
user1596138
4:33 PM
They use it to aid in publishing to multiple OS, doesn't say anything about the code underneath. Like phonegap
 
@Nick I just started drinking inhumane amounts of coffee
 
Coffee upsets my stomach
 
You're drinking the wrong coffee ._.
 
then you should be more tolerant
 
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But yeah Slack is fuckin terrible lol
 
4:33 PM
@Jhawins right, sounds very similar to NW approach
 
Nah, I have a bad stomach
I went to the doctor about it and everything
 
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@Loktar do you still get notifications from that guy we let go months ago?
 
Probably all the energy drinks, lol
 
you can just wrap JS/CSS/HTML into an exe
 
I drank 1-2 energy drinks a day for 3 years
My wallet will never forgive me
 
4:34 PM
yeah on my phone it will never go away
 
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@Loktar Yeah just a convenient .exe/.app wrapper
 
@Cereal about 2 years here, i'll skip a couple days a week though
Surprisingly my teeth haven't fallen out yet lol
 
I transitioned from Multiple energy drinks a day, to Mtn Dews, to Juice, to Water.
 
Going cold turkey sucked
 
4:35 PM
hey guys how to make a folder on github
 
that makes Nodewebkit sound so much better
 
the only option there is to add files
 
NW.js
 
I haven't worked with electron I should port one of my apps to it
 
@BenFortune I drink one every couple weeks, when I'm tired. Shit's way better than coffee, I miss it
 
4:35 PM
@RanganathanSwamy add a file with ahtever path you want. the folders will appear
are you talking about the wiki?
 
@Nick idc what they call it now, these add kids always change names.
 
nW.jS
 
I made an EPOS terminal in NW.js :P
 
nwjavas
 
no the wiki
 
4:37 PM
ziGi
 
Don't do it!
 
no not the wiki*
 
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@RanganathanSwamy Commit it
 
the only option there is to add files
wait let me get a screenshot
 
@RanganathanSwamy You're not using github correctly
 
4:37 PM
He is like Beetlejuice
 
You're not support to create your file structure on the website
 
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No don't get a screenshot lol stop using git you are doing it wrong.
 
You say the name 3 times and he will be here.
 
You're supposed to use git, and push your project to github
 
This is first time I am using it to add anything nick
I always used to learn
 
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4:38 PM
Oh sorry. We're dicks
 
Well, you're using it wrong
 
@RanganathanSwamy You can add a folder, but you need to add a file inside it.
 
I am downloading the desktop version
maybe that'll help
 
Yes, do that
 
Agreed Nick
 
4:38 PM
@BenFortune I made crossplatform html5 screensavers
 
I am using it for the very firs time like I said
 
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@RanganathanSwamy Checkout Atlassian's Sourcetree
 
thanks everyone for quick responses
 
@Loktar One of the very few repos that I've starred
 
hah thanks :p
 
user1596138
4:38 PM
It's a lot nicer than the github official desktop one IMO
 
@Loktar That sounds more interesting
 
@Jhawins Ew, sourcetree is fucking gross
your opinions are wrong, and you should go cry about it
<3
 
Oh man, that's genius.
 
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@Nick Better than the github version lol
 
user1596138
4:40 PM
I use the CLI mostly anyway
 
Nah
 
@FlorianMargaine pong
 
the github version is good for people that don't get git.
but it ties your hands if you have a clue
 
Sourcetree adds extra steps that are really confusing to noobs, and the UI is really complicated for what it does
 
though, tyou can always drop to commandline.
 
4:40 PM
also @BenFortune my description is a lie, it isn't windows only
 
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@Nick You're spouting nonsense. Please stop it.
 
I still use the git gui from time to time :/
 
I made them for ubuntu as well... but ubuntu removed screensavers :(
 
@Jhawins It's not nonsense, it's what I've experienced with ST
 
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There's no extra steps, if anything it oversimplifies. It doesn't have hardly any functionality at all built into it I am always having to do it by hand
 
4:41 PM
At my last job, the new guy (that didn't know git) used ST, and he fucked up the repo every other day.
I always had to fix it for him in the CLI
 
user1596138
Probably because he didn't know git, not because he used ST......
 
^
 
As I said, ST is unfriendly to noobs
 
user1596138
If you know git it doesn't matter what you use it's all the same
 
Yeah we have a lot of devs here who just started with Git in January
 
4:42 PM
the GH desktop version is a lot more noob friendly
 
really no issues
 
user1596138
We have some people who don't understand how branches work
 
@Jhawins and if you don't know git, you're going to ruin everything no matter what you use
 
user1596138
They use Sourcetree, they do fine with it.
 
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@Cereal Agree
 
4:42 PM
I guess my noob was just extra ignorant, then
 
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@Nick It has even less features lol
 
SourceTree was fine for me, except it crashed a LOT
 
git is hard
 
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And they're hidden under a "fancy" UI
 
@Jhawins Less features, but more buttons? That's not good.
 
4:43 PM
> you're a developer. fucking learn the commandline git. can't? go find another job.
^ my opinions
 
^
 
I like command git better. I feel more sysadminy
 
!!^
 
4:43 PM
so many strong opinions
 
yes
 
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@Nick More buttons??? You've never even seen sourcetree have you, or is it the github desktop you've never seen?
 
@SterlingArcher there's so much more to git than any gui allows
 
@Jhawins I've seen both. Let's compare, shall we? Give me a sec to grab screenshots
 
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4:44 PM
Does anyone here know anything about vagrant?
 
user1596138
^ github for desktop
 
It's not that I see no value in a GUI, it's just that programmers are the last people I would expect to bitch and moan about having to use the commandline now and then.
 
config.vm.network :forwarded_port, guest: 9393, host: 9393 should set localhost:9393 to forward to vagrant's 9393 port right?
 
user1596138
 
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Sourcetree.
 
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4:44 PM
Count the buttons... lmfao
 
Yes... sourcetree has more buttons...
Tha's what I was saying
Maybe we're actually agreeing
 
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Yeah because you can actually do a couple things with sourcetree lol
 
Use whatever works for you.
If you don't fuck shit up, who cares?
 
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@Loktar but what if I want to use desktop spaces!
 
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;P
 
4:45 PM
Use windows 10
 
upcoming git client: GitKraken: google.com/…
 
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Just poking fun at that spaces conversation awhile back lol
 
haha yea
people got so damn heated
or seemed to be, via the words I saw on the screen.
 
@Loktar Yes, people can use whatever they want, but only after leanring the commandline, becasue that's what you use when shit goes wrong or you need to do something the UI can't
it's the lowest common demoninator
kinda like you shouldn't use coffeescript unless you know JS first.
 
@Luggage no one should use windows unless they've grown up with dos.
 
4:47 PM
Not a good analogy becasue dos is DIFFERENT that windows
 
if you don't know the commands to delete a directory don't do it via the gui
 
windows commandline !== dos
 
not anymore
 
windows is not just running "delete somefile.txt" behind the scenes. It's just just a fornt end for the commandline
unlike git UIs
 
bjb took the lead on me :(
 
4:49 PM
VS Code is open source: github.com/Microsoft/vscode
 
@Luggage Tell that to my Windows 3.1 install's face!
 
Again, I'm not arguing that people shouldn't use a prefered UI, but that a programmer shouldn't shy away from learning it and just hope a magic "sync" button does what they want without understanding
source control is an important part of being a developer
 
holy shit, I just realized how to make an incredible dodgy hack XD
Some time ago, a company who planned to send an app to people, expecially oxford students, hired me, right? The guy who seems to trust me even if he was aware of my age decided to give me the credentials to operate internally in the server and access/modify any file. This was so that I could put the files online myself to check some things. He apparently trusted me enough not to set up other protections.
I could technically leak the bank credentials of a lot of oxford university students, and they're rich af...
 
"Ugh, I have to so learn some commands to fix this branch I messed up?"
"You're acting like a user, Jerry, a USER!".
Jerry stared at his feet, embarrassed.
@towc If you plan on committing any crimes, don't advertise it here.
 
crl
Oh I see why @Mosho didn't like CSS speakerdeck.com/vjeux/react-css-in-js
 
4:53 PM
@Luggage it was my first "actual", I have some morals ;)
but the potential is incredible, I'm kinda scared
 
"This guy let me into his office to help with something and didn't realize I could just open his desk and take all his shit."
 
if I could do it, so many other 15yos with more interest could destroy everything..
 
@Luggage I think I'm done with them, and I still have full access :D
anyway
I guess it's just trust and I should respect it
and I am going to
 
Or ask for them to disable access if you think they left it open by mistake
 
4:55 PM
@Luggage I got interrupted
 
but don't say you went in and poked around when you do
 
Or upload a bunch of porn
 
but "Consumer Windows (up to 3.11, Win9x, WinME) ran as a Graphical User Interface (GUI) running on top of MS-DOS. With Windows 95, 98, and ME the MS-DOS part was integrated, "
 
guise I'm getting contacted by recruiters now
this is great for my ego
2
 
Last for a few weeks
 
4:56 PM
old enough to bleed, old enough to work for a corporate overlord in a depressing setting for the rest of your life
 
Then they get annoying
 
@SomeKittens I run windows 1.1
before it was cool
 
You aren't that old.
 
23 is just as old as 80
 
@nick The joke is that 3.1 actually was a GUI on top of DOS. But you're too young to understand that.
 
4:57 PM
I am. I used DOS 3.
 
@Nick 2 tru
 
@SomeKittens so was windows 95, 98 and MNE to varying degrees
 
^
and 3.0 :p
which included Mahjong.
which they removed from 3.1... still annoys me.
 
@SomeKittens D:
 
@Luggage I did not. They just gave me a password to use on an s3bucket server to upload/modify files and everything. I don't think the guy knows much about security
 
4:58 PM
ah
 
@nick GET OFF MY LAWN
 
heh, I'm 11 points far to see reduced ads
 
to be honest I have no idea what DOS actually is
 
does everyone remember their first real computer?
 
yup macbook pro
 
4:59 PM
I still have mine @Luggage
Commodore 128c.
 
@Luggage lol yeah, it ran windows 7 XD
 
@towc ahahahahhaha
 

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