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I'm pretty shocked the dealership is being so cool. They dropped a total of $125 of dealership fees one me when others wanted $1800+, and they didn't even take the holding deposit from my account.
I didn't think so
hah, should've tought of that
@QueueOverflow what you want doesn't exist. desktop / mobile would be verbs describing the type of program.
@rlemon Re-upload plz, ISP is screwing my DNS (no jokes)
@SterlingArcher All of that is bullshit that you can negotiate away
20:00
afternoon
when I got my most recent car, I walked in and told them I wanted that car and would buy one if they had it, otherwise order it
I don't sure about Android, but I doubt, that Windows Phone doesn't have it :D
they bent over backwards to get me the only one in the country within the week
@rlemon Is that a congregation of nuns and similarly depressing people?
20:01
plus a $500 rebate and some other stuff
@ssube some dealerships flat out refuse. I talked these guys down easily from $500 => $300 in fees and then they charched me less than half that
Also, do you know the history behind it?
@Zirak according to google, it is a choir
Plus I got the car for $4,000 under KBB so I got a monster deal on it
@SterlingArcher Used car dealerships, sure. Luxury cars or new cars, rarely.
20:01
@Zirak it is called the spirit catcher.
meant to be a native art thing
I've never been able to negotiate a used one down
Yeah this was a used mazda dealership that happened to take in my car as a trade in
what'd you get?
rx8?
So i had huge advantage since I knew everything about that car, including average state prices
Tesla Model S
20:02
I went with the Audi S4
@ssube yeah these are generally the easiest fees to get removed
Black with black and red leather seats
> Documentation fee? Sorry not paying that.
@SterlingArcher did it come with a snapback?
Snapback?
20:03
Hey guys, can any one recommend a library where I can draw column charts, but with out any coordinate system or labels and such? I just want the graph to get drawn. Plus the width and height of the graph will be very low ( for instance 100px * 100px ). Thank you in advance! :)
@SterlingArcher good taste sir
@Loktar lol one dealer tried to charge me $995 for a destination fee
> The sculpture has 16 kinetic quills, which rock back and forth when the wind blows. Several months after it was erected on the site in Barrie, the unpredictable winds coming onshore from Kempenfelt Bay caused concern that the quills might fall off. (source)
@nick thanks :D
you're welcome
20:04
>=|
@ssube what do you mean by a snapback? Like a hat?
@SterlingArcher Audi is volkswagen for douchebros
ahhh haha
No, I wont be wearing Audi swag
I thought volkswagens were volkswagens for douchebros?
When did that change
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@ssube Umm. VW is lame Audi is cool
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20:05
Plus performance-wise not the same category..
guarantee that was taken in an audi
I do want to put exhaust on it though
@Zirak yea I don't stand under it
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@ssube you win
@ssube That's you?
20:05
@ssube I see, so you are a douchebag. :D
^ read my mind
@Zirak no, I googled audi driver
lol I don't wear clothes like that
oh, phew
@rlemon I don't have an audi
driven a few, hated em
20:06
lol
My old swag has evolved into "business swag"
@rlemon he is a professional hipster actually
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Me and Loktar have the same ride.
my swag is "does it fit? does it smell? if both are a no, put it on"
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But mine's bigger and his is nicer
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20:07
Nice brown dress shoes, silly socks, blue/grey/black dress pants and a stylish button up shirt you would wear with a suit
I dress very nice for work
@LanaKane twss?
@LanaKane Phrasing!
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lol
@Loktar J is saying his is bigger
can you confirm?
Can confirm
20:08
I would die if @kat replied with "can confirm"
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Mine are 12.5 inches his should be ~9 inches
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^ tires that is lmao. Leaving the phrasing open for you
TRUCKASAURUS
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@rlemon Hahahahaha
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Loktar's truck is a pre-runner tho'
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20:09
They put 4-linked rear ends in them
lol
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Nothing else on the market comes close to that thing lol. Too bad he is on a lease an won't beat it up with me... Haha
so I got an email about shit in a gist I have on github from someone I've never interacted with/... but here is the thing. the gist is set to 'secret'
how did he get the url to that gist?!
yeah his truck is large
but mine is as smooth as a babies ass
@rlemon It's an inside job
20:10
@rlemon you must have shared the link at some point, perhaps on an SO question?
Google the url
@nick I've shared it here. but he would have to have been in the room at the time
oh
google doesn't index my 'secret' gist contents
20:11
@LanaKane this is the interior color. It's a more modest brown/red instead of rbight red or shit brown
@SterlingArcher that's super similar to the interior of mine, I just have blue trim and black/black leater
the layout is almost identical
Blue trim? :O
Do you have pic?
no, I'll take one when I get home
@SterlingArcher when you visit me, make sure I know to clean out my garage so you can park your car in it.
@SterlingArcher void your warranty and flash your ECU with something custom
20:12
My buddies camero SS has this sweet interior lighting system that has a lightstrip of LED programmable lights that fluccuate based on the RMPs
oh, the internet has one
@nick warranty is expired anyways, so I can do what I want
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@Loktar Hey mine rides pretty smooth but tbh nothing near how stable yours is haha
audi seems to simply throttle performance with software rather than increase engine power for higher models
Oh sweet, is it also paired with the carbon fiber trim?
20:12
that's exactly what mine looks like
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Kinda made me sad when I realized it's 09+ that ride like yours. Mine is the normal stuff they've done the last 2 decades
@rlemon lol I'd fly to you, but can I park my bike in your trunk anyways?
my interior is so sexy
ohh god I just wanna go sit in my car and oogle over it
20:14
rawr
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@rlemon Dat color scheme... Bleh
This was the first vehicle I ever drove
@rlemon brb finding a napkin, that made me drool
@LanaKane mine is all dark grey, couldn't find a pic the right colour
5 speed manual
oh man I miss that baby
20:15
@ssube nice automatic shifter scrub
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@SterlingArcher Yeah but it's a Triton so the motor on that thing crapped long ago I am sure ;P
@nick tiptronic, nerd
I like tiptronic
flappy paddle <3
@LanaKane she still runs!
20:15
Mine except diff colors
flappy on the 8 speed is the shit
I rented a 2013 accent and it had tiptronic.. very enjoyable until you forget about it
Drives extra good. My dad uses her for construction
@ssube fappy paddle
I love having the LCD behind the steering wheel as well
20:16
throw it in sport+ and it gets stupid
@ssube aww mines only a 7 speed flapper
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I don't have any actual pics... But this is what I learned to drive on and drove for months after I wrecked my other car
110 in 4th
But double clutch so the shift speed is ridiculous
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20:16
!!s/fl/f/g
@rlemon @ssube aww mines only a 7 speed fapper (source)
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Boom
@SterlingArcher my evo had dct, that was great
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16 passengers lol
@LanaKane so @KendallFrey's mom??
20:16
play with the brakes and I could roll backwards at people
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@rlemon If I took the seats out
I did 100 in 4th but my car only has 4 gears, now I have to replace the transmission output shaft speed sensor
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Dude best thing about that van!!!! It had 4 bench seats in it all on quick disconnects...
@LanaKane nice, you took it another direction
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20:17
So you roll up to the drive in theater, take out all 4 of your couches and enjoy.
both worked
@Loktar that truck is sexy
replaced this beast
My uncle has a Raptor
@SterlingArcher is your uncle chris pratt?!?!?!?
20:18
@SterlingArcher hah nice man
My other uncle currently drives a Huracán
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@SterlingArcher His rear-end is superior to the raptors sadly
@Loktar move to California and you shall never see rust again
I might go with a car next lease
@rlemon lol no way
20:18
I'm definitely buying when my lease is up
not just because I've put some dings in the ass end, either
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I'm waiting for Spring, I'm gonna get me a new Triumph! I'm set on 4 wheeled vehicles for now.
!!google Triumph
Triumph?
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Motorcycles
20:19
is that a weird bike thing
haha yea
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I need to buy a car in the spring
thinking of gettin an SUV
damn, when I search Triumph I get "Triumph® | Elegant & Comfortable Lingerie and Shapewear" as my first result
My brother just bought a new car too
Mercedes C63 AMG
Thing is a monster
@LanaKane looks sick
20:20
@LanaKane that's pretty badass
@SterlingArcher damn dude that's like my dream car
@nick they're not break the bank expensive if you get < 2012
is it the 6.2 liter model?
ah ok
Yas, flawless condition too
Not a single scratch on it
yeah for the latest model the reduced the size to 4.0 I'm so disappointed
20:21
Im so jealous
He found his for about 33,000 before taxes and shit
I'd sooner pay off my mortgage and drive a ugly car.
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@SterlingArcher Yeah bruh. 60mpg at 70mph and a 6 gallon tank too.
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95hp on a <500lb bike
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It was between that or a BMW F800 but the F800 feels like a toy when you sit on it..
@SterlingArcher nice. servicing AMG's is expensive as hell though
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20:23
My dream car is a Caterham
@SterlingArcher BRO JOB!!
my father's SL600 isn't even AMG and seriously getting any work done on it that's not covered under warranty/insurance is ridiculous
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^ My realistic priced dream car anyway
they're like space docking haha
20:25
@Luggage YOU LIED TO ME
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@nick what's the output difference tho?
@rlemon I don't think he wears tight pants though
yea he does
he wears nothing but nutt huggers
!!youtube tight pants body rolls
20:26
@LanaKane not sure but it probably has comparable (if not better) performance
still going from 6.2 to 4 is such a boner killer
I hate hair
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@nick Why tho
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Don't you like more efficiency?
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Clearly the same power output from a motor 1/3 the size is great..
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It's not like raw size determines anything anyway. There's stroke length, bore, compression ratio
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20:31
I mean, I'd rather have 3x the power with the same size engine
My insurance just dropped over $30 a month <333
would you buy a high-end car with a 4 cylinder engine?
yes
MPG is so worth it
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That probably wasn't possible with comparable efficiency... You are moving a lot more mass... It's kind of like land speeds. Once you get to a certain speed pushing through the air is like pushing through water. You start to hit the same limitations with more rotating mass..
MPG isn't worth shit especially when gas is like 2.50 now
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20:33
@nick Yeah? You know what I just did when I bought my truck? Chose to look for a 4.7 instead of a 5.7 Hemi.
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I just made sure I got 3.92 gears. So rear-wheel torque should be about the same, off the line I am faster.
what's the MPG diff?
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Will crawl good for me offroad. And I get ~20mpg
honestly I could care less about MPG unless I was buying a truck
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@nick Hemi owners say they get like ~12 or less (always), I have not had a tank pull less than 15 and best was 20
20:34
@SterlingArcher gf pays insurance, I pay for gas.
@LanaKane that's pretty sweet
works out well.
my insurance on the audi is costing me $66.17 a month
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Right lol I am on 3 foot tall tires too doing 20mpg
versus $102.78 for my old cobalt
!!afk gotta dial the poppa Sterling
20:35
@SterlingArcher huh, I've always heard audi insurance rates are way up there for whatever reason
kk
@LanaKane haha I have a friend who drives an F250 (1992 i think?) and he seriously gets like 5mpg
trucks are stupid amirite
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@SterlingArcher luxury cars, man
it's a gasoline engine not diesel too, he got unlucky
they're not sport, they're fancy, so they're stupid cheap
stupid cheap?
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20:39
@nick Haha yea
@LanaKane he says he thinks he might have a leak in the fuel pump
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@nick Ah yea that sucks... 12 valve cummins can do like ~25+mpg
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@KendallFrey lol I was gonna say only @SomeKittens starred this but now there's two
@LanaKane one was totes me (first one)
20:41
I don't think Kittens casts judgement on people's cars
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Either way. I probably use my truck to help 3-4 people a week in the winter. I know, someone else could do it, but I like to.
@LanaKane I know these things, I see people buy trucks simply because they think they're cool.
I dunno about you, but money is cooler
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Yeah, I don't do it for that haha
the only times I've needed help from someone with a truck was to move shit, but a car + trailer would work just as well.
Is it ok if a block comment appears above 'use strict'; at the beginning of a JS module (global code)? #JustChecking
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20:41
I use it man! I will go out and play with it even just for fun, all by myself.
I totally get driving a truck if you need it, but not to get hick chicks.
@Å imeVidas comments are not statements, so yes. it is fine
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Does that work? I've never picked anyone up based on my vehicle...
@LanaKane good edit
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Yeah I was like wait a minute that doesn't make sense
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20:43
@KendallFrey I have a pic for this
wait, why did that get a star?
@LanaKane haha I'm in the opposite boat... only reason i have a truck is because my girl likes them...
so to keep her I have a truck! :p
@rlemon Asking just for fun: Would a semicolon statement disable it? ; 'use strict';
your gf is a hick chick I guess
20:43
@Loktar so it really is compensating... nvm
haha
ahaha alright then
@rlemon nah I just need something to haul deez nuts
@Å imeVidas no clue. might be compiler dependant. I would think V8 is smart enough but unsure
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If you don't get it you don't live in a real midwest state and you don't have a worthwhile opinion on whether to have a truck or not. Haha
20:44
@Å imeVidas nope
murica
in Canada if you have a truck and don't put a snow plow on it for the winter, you've bought the truck for the looks
psh thats why i own one
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@Loktar Haha oh yeah I forgot. I mean honestly tho, you know you love the fact you can just hop curbs at the Scooters
utility comes 2nd
20:45
"semicolon statement" LOL, I meant empty statement
@LanaKane oh yeah for sure man
LOL scooters curb
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Haha yea that one curb... It's kinda like a crater now
but seriously I have used the truck to get out of areas where a car wouldnt have been able to
20:46
> A Directive Prologue is the longest sequence of ExpressionStatement productions occurring as the initial StatementListItem or ModuleItem productions of a FunctionBody, a ScriptBody, or a ModuleBody and where each ExpressionStatement in the sequence consists entirely of a StringLiteral token followed by a semicolon. The semicolon may appear explicitly or may be inserted by automatic semicolon insertion. A Directive Prologue may be an empty sequence.
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@SomeKittens What the hell? It's a joke dude. Playful banter
That triggered me @SomeKittens
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Leave it to the SF guy to blame everything on mental illness xD
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Or some social weirdness
or lack of water
20:47
> Create a new story. Focusing on the old story isn’t serving you. It may in the short term, but telling yourself a new story where you are actively problem solving and taking on more personal responsibility will help you to get past the victim shadow.
lel
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It's probably because I'm white and worked to have a good career
@ssube lol im not complaining my insurance just dropped by hundreds a year lol
@LanaKane Haha, you're quite the reactionary. I'm playing along.
@LanaKane 1v1 me irl
@Loktar Looks like it triggered Lana!
20:48
lol
@LanaKane you need to back up and check your cis-white-truckdriving-privilege
@rlemon make sure your backup beeper doesn't trigger anybody, though
@rlemon I thought it was @Loktar that drove the white truck?
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lol yup
I have a backup cam so I can backup and check my cis white truck driving priviledge
my truck is so cis
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20:49
lol
people always let me over
backup cams are awesome
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Haha I want your backup cam. I looked they sell the parts to put the whole navigation in my dash like factory
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Not worth the time
dude I want a forward cam
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20:50
Haha..?
what I really want is a display on my back window so I can show people behind me what I see in my rear mirror. Then they know I can see them picking their noses.
no seriously
idk why, I just do
@Loktar the full tech package from beemer has cams on all sides that build a 3d image
@Loktar those are called dashcams
20:50
@Loktar I know what you mean, a parking cam basically
quite common in Russia
they demoed it when I was in, it's crazy
@rlemon I have a dash cam
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Haha get a generic license plate bracket cam and a multiplexer?
I know, I'm being a smartass
20:50
you can see an overhead view of the car while you're driving
@SterlingArcher yes!
play along
Front bumper cam so you can see curbs when parking and stuff
@rlemon you don't say
@SterlingArcher tilt your mirror down, noob
20:51
@ssube that sounds fucking amazing.., the overhead view that is
lol the curb in front of your car dickwad XD
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Do you know how far down I have to tilt my mirrors to see parking spot lines :O
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Neither do I
I was talking to mhy wife about leasing a lexus
she doesn't want me to
@Loktar it's crazy
20:51
so you just park anywhere? check your privilege
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lol a Lexus..
but idk, they look noice
@LanaKane get a real car
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Aren;t those stereotypically for retired baby boomers?
I'll probably get a mazda 4
20:52
@Loktar I saw one of the newer ones the other day, sexier than my car :(
idk.
I'm not a car guy
I buy what is cheap on gas
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@ssube We can race, we can pull off, we can offroad, I will beat yours at everything so Idk what you have to say about a real vehicle xD
@rlemon vw rabbit
@ssube actual rabbit
@rlemon lol neither am I, I just buy what I think looks cool honestly
no joke.
20:52
@LanaKane we both look like assholes, but I can drive under things, so nanananana
I'm not sure what things
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@ssube I think there is a bigger real-world use case for driving over things...
@Loktar yea, I'm just more for utility than anything. I already got the girl. :D
@LanaKane haha he'd pass you real quick on an actual road though
@Loktar omfg get an ISF <3
@LanaKane no
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20:53
Which 3 foot tires are good at haha
@LanaKane What's your 0-60?
I really wouldn't mind a tesla, but that is a hell of a lot of money for a car
@rlemon I ended up buying TSLA instead
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@SomeKittens Idk I'd have to go to a track for that...
20:54
@rlemon for the performance and comfort, you're better off getting a lexus or bmw
I'd love a tesla, but I'd wait until they make them go further. What's the range on one of them right now?
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I have 3.92 gears lol
@LanaKane ever used Torque?
@ssube for the pure electric
@rlemon I just realised I know nothing of Canada's history: How it was formed, what wen on before it, even how old is it, etc. It feels slightly shameful, and at the same time...meh.
20:54
@LanaKane You'll need a new clutch if you keep grinding 'em down like that
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Front and back. I know you don't understand what that means... But it means I can torque the fuck out
hybrid cars I've seen (in Canada) don't review very well
Just wanted to let you know.
@Zirak this is true for most people outside of Canada
20:54
most of the UK still believes they own us
Hybrid cars are a scam
@Zirak y'know how the older child will kick up a big fuss and scream and then the younger child gets the same thing, but politely?
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I chirped the tires going into 3rd at 45mph the other day hahaha. That's 3 footx12.5" wide tires
@Nick I have a friend who works at the fremont factory and he says their latest batteries have a 350 mile range
if I recall correctly
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@ssube It crashes on my new phone whenever I switch screens :/
20:55
That's about a full tank on my current car
I'd totally do that
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Nor would I trust that app
I'd love a tesla.. but they are too expensive
The money spent on mining materials, assembly in other countries is astronimical. Sure you may save gas, but that battery you're driving on? the material isn't recyclable iirc
get some money first though
@Loktar shouldn't be in ~10 years
20:55
@SterlingArcher The new ones are
@LanaKane weird. I've had problems, but not in a while
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@SomeKittens This message makes so little sense....
thats what they said 10 years ago!
They've been for a while
@Loktar Elon's long term goal is to have a pure electric for <$45k
20:56
they need to get them under 20k
for wide adoption
@rlemon They're announcing Model 3 2016 Q1
My current car was 22k...
@SomeKittens isn't the model 3 a hybrid tho?
45 is a lot
not full electric?
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20:56
@nick You'd be surprised... People who think trucks are inherently slow are people who are.... uninformed.
@Nick this is relative to other 'high end cars'
@rlemon Tesla does not, and never will, make fossil fuel cars.
I don't need a fancy ride, I just don't want to depend on shitty, archaic fuel sources
Omg trucks are fast as fuck
@SomeKittens maybe it's been a while then. When the Prius started out it was a shitshow to make
20:57
the only people that beat me are on motorcycles
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Also, can any of you put down enough torque in your cars to lift the front end (any miniscule amount counts) off the ground??
@SterlingArcher There's a lot of mud slung around by oil companies & old-school car makers.
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@Loktar I should show you dude my truck can literally pull the front end off the ground
hah crazy man
At one point Exxon bought some promising battery tech and shut the whole thing down.
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20:57
If I put it in first and gun it from ~1.5K rpm
wow
scumbag exxon
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I mean it's not like you ride a wheelie. But it beats the fuck outta your neck and everything in the cab flies everywhere hahaha
Why don't they just invest that money in their own technologies...
@SterlingArcher Oil is on the way out, give or take a half-century.
@SterlingArcher still is
20:58
I mean if we had the cheap resource to harness solar power we could eliminate so much waste
@SterlingArcher (we do, by the way)
@SomeKittens ahh my bad. I remembered when the model x was announced someone talking about hybrid. it was BMW's 'answer' to the model x
it is a hybrid
last estimate of a prius was 7 years of muscle car emissions just to make
@LanaKane I mean, they can be fast but can you even do a 6 second 0-60?
@rlemon i8
20:59
IIRC, in about 40% of the US, solar is cheaper than fossil fuels for power without subsidies.
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@nick I personally can't, no, and not very close to that either :)
@SomeKittens on a mass scale, to charge a battery that runs when the sun isn't out, for effective cost?
It probably went down something like this:
* Forever -> 15th century: Several types of tribal folks, maybe resembling or related to Indians with Inuit (maybe just Inuit and I'm showing my ignorance) lived with their own set of beliefs, murdered each other and lived with each other, etc.
* 15th century: Colonialism, lots of tribes murdered.
* Wild guess: First under Dutch rule, then French, then British
* 18th/19th century: Revolution, independence.
* 19th century: Figuring out what your identity as a country is
How wrong am I?
@nick yes
@LanaKane I've raced trucks before and they're not slow, but they'll never compete with sports cars.
20:59
the 2013 ram can
@rlemon Yeah, there's a lot of hybrid/electric cars coming out from the major automakers in response to Tesla
and a 3.92 gearing ratio is good for torque but you realize you've lowered your top speed right?
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@ssube Hahahaha Loktars truck even can...

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