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20:00
mines are very good
because they're mine ofc
Don't care, by my definition they are shite :P
Hey, five upvotes!
where
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A: 10 Million Questions - Let's Share Some Stories That the Number Doesn't Convey

SomeKittensSelf-answer Self-help As a programmer, it can be incredibly easy to feel like you're just treading water while everyone else is writing code that you'll never be able to touch. I've watched many friends (and myself, several times) fall victim to impostor syndrome. The solution is as simple as ...

On your submission for the two paragraph thing?
20:03
yeah
congrats!
I wouldn't say I've been here long enough to really have anything note-worthy...
now 6
this will make for some really tiny gaming PCs: vuxml.org/freebsd/27fed73e-484f-11e5-825f-c80aa9043978.html
I'll wait 5/10 minutes before upvoting :p
20:05
@SomeKittens Your answer was really inspiring
There's some serious fucking rain outside...
may I ask when did you start programming ? @SomeKittens
@catgocat Thanks! Glad it helped you.
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A: 10 Million Questions - Let's Share Some Stories That the Number Doesn't Convey

Awal GargObject copied to second property via reference persists even after original property deleted? I wrote this answer (sorry but no specific self promotion or anything :P) without really knowing what the answer is. I was forever confused about the following: Everybody says that JavaScript has no...

Don't forget @AwalGarg too!
20:06
@I'll-Be-Back If you have SSH, yeah, there'll be a way.
I am using SSH on putty at the moment to run apps.js
What I meant can it be done on WebStorm directly.
Mhm
Check out Tools -> Deployment
I'm sure you can figure it out from there.
started as a baby now we here
Hmmm, lets me see.
when is the 6s coming out so I can buy the 6 cheep cheep?
20:09
can someone be captain obvious for me:
function run_modal( href, url_data ) {
    $( "#dialog" ).dialog( "open" );
}
@catgocat It's "started from the bottom now we here" :p
@I'll-Be-Back does webstorm have access to windows shell ?
or does it have only a simulation of a console?
It does have access to Windows shell.
Its called Terminal on webstorm.
well, you could use CygWin and install OpenSSH on your windows box
@ʞɔᴉN They're releasing a 6s?
20:12
You know you don't have a life when you spend your time making this: jsfiddle.net/mvbu09k5/embedded/result (I am the lifeless person in this context)
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@Callum Tools -> Deployment appear for uploading and sync.
@Callum I would assume so
@tereško Good idea, might try that.
@catgocat depends on how you define "start"
Something more than "hello world"?
freshman year of college, fall 2010
oh sep 18th is when the 6S goes on sale I guess
20:13
also, you wouldn't have to deal with putty anymore, which in my eyes is a huge benefit, @I'll-Be-Back
@AwalGarg Centre-aligned text? Really?
@KendallFrey wanna know more about lifeless people?
I'm not a necrophiliac, so no.
If you count "Hello World", I've got around eight years of "programming experience"
lol why is my first message the one used here, codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/101673/…
20:14
@Callum apply for a Senior Developer position then
haha I mistyped it in my address bar and that came up in the google results
@tereško Look like this is easy option, all in one: sshwindows.sourceforge.net
also, thats pretty cool @AwalGarg :p
nice, code review :D
@SomeKittens Nice :)
20:16
@ʞɔᴉN At the time I've left school, I'll try my luck :p That'd be almost 11 years of "programming experience"
well, I get other benefits from cygwin, not just OpenSSH
@Loktar because why not
@Callum lel
@AwalGarg nice (y)
you were the subject to the experiments
20:16
@distalx Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
@catgocat lol it just surprised me
also google is amazing at indexing
no particular reason btw
@distalx hah, that's your first message in here :P
@Loktar That is the reason most people optimise their SEO for Google :p
@Loktar How did you find it tho?
20:17
> optimize their SEO
@AwalGarg I don't have to install a Haskell to find out (Yay!)
@CapricaSix got it. :)
@catgocat I typed this into my address bar, link: http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/17?m=231895#231895
with the word link:
and it was the first/only result on google lol
@WeBWeB Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
@WeBWeB Indent or go home :p - Formatting, also.
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20:19
1 message moved to JS trash
s/home/trash/
@WeBWeB please format your code, paste it and hit ctrl+k
@CapricaSix <3
i am trying haha
20:21
@WeBWeB Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq. For posting large code blocks, use a paste site like gist.github.com, hastebin.com or pastie.org
oh damn @CapricaSix is on it fast
retroactively removed it
Just use it, god have mercy on my soul :p
Sweet! I've got a stream pulling from Twitter all tweets about Google that's parsing the sentiment value of each text and then computing the rolling average of that sentiment
Am watching the Interview (the movie)
@Abhishrek Great, isn't it?
20:22
@Abhishrek there are some pretty funny parts in that movie
@SomeKittens so on average, how evil is Google?
so far i have fallen twice from my chair
@SomeKittens Hehe, opensource?
Rolling avg:
avg 0.13070207570207573
avg 0.1316544566544567
avg 0.15451159951159954
avg 0.12640702434820084
avg 0.1287879767291532
avg 0.13712131006248654
avg 0.14837131006248652
avg 0.11579555248672894
avg 0.03677457346574993
avg 0.027052351243527707
so, very slightly positive
@Callum no, not yet
google is love google is life
20:24
!!butwhy
I use DuckDuckGo (sorry not sorry)
DuckDuckGo is terrible
Google is kind of a step 1 organization
Can somebody help me with the e-mail validation in my form?
http://pastie.org/pastes/10369007/text
20:25
Google is a gateway drug. They lure you in with fancy searching
0
Q: Jquery dialog error attempted to call method 'open'

Codepen is betterI'm getting this error: Uncaught Error: cannot call methods on dialog prior to initialization; attempted to call method 'open' I'm running this function: function run_modal( href, url_data ) { $( "#dialog" ).dialog( "open" ); } This is my HTML (stripped of PHP): <div id='dialog' title='B...

@WeBWeB a) I know people with 1 and two letter names, please fix this
email.length == 0 || email.indexOf('') == '-1' is a bit redundant, no?
@Callum I will fix that.
@Callum and the names are?
20:27
@WeBWeB why such an old version of jQuery?
why would anyone use anything besides only google ?
@SomeKittens My webhost have som big problems with newer versions... don't ask me why.. It is only working with old versions
...your webhost?
@WeBWeB you should just use \S+@\S+
that doesn't make sense
hosts are agnostic to what you're hosting
20:29
@SomeKittens local swedish one
@catgocat I've had some serious problems with them and their customer support. To get a tablet, they wanted enough details to commit Identity fraud, and just wouldn't help. Other reasons, too, but that is the main one.
@Loktar Okay I will try that.
Your webhost has a problem with newer versions of jQuery, wot?
Im trying to make this work: stackoverflow.com/questions/46155/…
@Callum I was talking about the search engine
20:30
@Loktar \S+@\S+\.\S+, I'd say.
@Callum lol
@Callum I know it sounds weird. But when I am linking to or trying to upload a newer version they block the site
@catgocat I just don't touch Google wherever possible,
then don't host it, use a CDN link
Anyone else finds it blasphemous that chrome tabs are indexed from 1 and not 0 in the Ctrl+<tab index> shortcut combination?
20:31
@AwalGarg No, why would it be.
yeah I will do that
0 would be no indent,
1 would be 1 indent,
@AwalGarg Complain to keyboard manufacturers
@AwalGarg because 0 is all the way on the right side..
plus people typically count from 1 not 0 like programmers :P
!!s/(programmers)/ $1(excluding Lua programmers)/
20:33
one question: Is validation.jquery.js good? Or should I try to develop a validation script on my own?
@Callum plus people typically count from 1 not 0 like (excluding Lua programmers) :P (source)
> porgrammers
fail
@WeBWeB check out the native validation methods
I'mma shank Caprica.
20:33
unless you have to support IE9 or less @WeBWeB
let's talk about bing for a second
wtf?
@Callum plus people typically count from 1 not 0 like programmers(excluding Lua programmers) :P (source)
@ʞɔᴉN nobody cares about those "people". how many of them would even know about that shortcut?
what does microsoft earn with bing?
bad reputation??????
@SomeKittens good is < 0.5 ?
20:34
@catgocat money.
@Loktar Okay!
in Sandbox, Dec 31 '14 at 20:49, by nick
twinkle twinkle little star, how i wonder what you are
@Callum money?
my first chat message lol
code reviews are meant to improve developers skills so help debugging is a code review
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20:35
haha in the sandbox even nice @Nick
@Callum who are the morons that pay for advertisements?
like, no one uses it
@Loktar I was trying to get a hat
False, people are forced to use it with Cortana, unless they use an addon (say a certain one made for Firefox to redirect to DuckDuckGo)
@Codepenisbetter I love you too sweetheart.
20:37
@AwalGarg how so?
what is DuckDuckGo
@Codepenisbetter what happened to you my darling?!
> Code penis better
what?
@AwalGarg everything :'(
@ʞɔᴉN An arguably better (morally or otherwise) search engine. Sorreh.
nothing :D
20:38
code penis better
@Callum lol just messing with you
@ʞɔᴉN Maybe I like that :3
@Nick code penis butter
penis butter; now with 50% more php
@Callum ;)
20:40
@CSᵠ Good is relative
@Nick is PHP some kind of vitamin?
the values range from [-5, 5]
whose @Nick ?
@ʞɔᴉN PHP is an anti-vitamin
@SomeKittens that's what i was wondering, the scale..
strange scale
20:41
It's based on a wordlist that ranks words under the same range
abandon	-2
abandoned	-2
abandons	-2
abducted	-2
abduction	-2
abductions	-2
abhor	-3
abhorred	-3
abhorrent	-3
abhors	-3
abilities	2
ability	2
aboard	1
absentee	-1
absentees	-1
@ʞɔᴉN PHP is cancerous. Not even going to take that back. I've had to deal with so much shit from it.
@SomeKittens no "ai" in the algo?
There is no machine learning at this point
@Callum lol, was just about to get back into a pet project in php, also wondering if i could.. maybe.. ditch the whole php and use js only
@CSᵠ Use Node, then :p
20:43
meh, no
yes, no, maybe, who knows?!?
No? Are you mad?
only God knows
Use django. Pros: not as bad as ruby. Cons: you have to use django.
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20:44
Abhorrent abduction ability
let's ask Him the, meanwhile i'll continue in php and just move some logic in php
if I were to get started with a language for backend i'd try golang
I'd actually recommend Rust over golang, but that is just preference.
I don't have experience with either so I can't speak against one or the other
20:48
@Callum i like it
i just know Go is starting to get a lot of usage
I've done more Rust than I have Go, so it's quite biased, but it isn't as popular as Go (I don't think)
With Rust also, it does take a bit of getting used to, but it's arguably as versatile as {some versatile language here} and as useful as {a rather useful language here}
why do people use listeners to call functions these days instead of using them directly in the html?
would be interesting to see if Rust can be a viable alternative to C++
I'd say it could be, but I doubt you'd write an operating system in it (completely).
20:52
NodeOS
lets do it
ShelfOS
An operating system, running on the V8 engine? Maybe, but it definitely wouldn't be TinyCore.
this may be useful after using the jquery search:dimsemenov.com/plugins/magnific-popup
Such a terrible idea
@Zirak I had just looked at it
why a bad idea?
quite challenging
not that it will be used for actual use, but for showing nodejs' power and what it can be done using it
21:07
npm is a terrible package manager, node (as is) is terrible (read: inconvenient) for doing sysadmin work, the entire thing is woven together terribly, everything's terrible.
in the MEAN stack, why use express and angular at the same time.. i'm kinda confused about how both would work together
@catgocat You could've written nodeos in any other language, they don't do anything special.
npm is my main package manager on Windows, because I haven't really used anything else.
@Zirak I personally think it's not meant to be super efficient or even an everyday use. It's about popularizing javascript and nodejs. The fact that it is terrible for making system calls makes it even more difficult to develop, which turns this into a challenge.
but maybe I'm wrong
21:22
@Zirak reminds me of chrome OS :P
not such a terrible idea really
What's Chrome OS?
an operating system that google develops to sell your data to the government
21:42
Ah, so they're sticking with what the user is used to. Google's great, in that manner.
Chromium has this
what does this cryptic code tell us?
If it's cryptic for you you should consider liberal arts or so
Why doesn't echo test | echo work?
21:58
Because echo doesn't take input from stdin
echo test | cat works
22:10
ʞɔᴉN takes input from stdin :3
22:22
( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
corn
When a website doesn't allow for script tags, but you can use i tags and onload attributes. This'll be great fun...
onload doesn't work on <i>
@copy Does on an <img> though
Most sites allow those.
If I want to send standard error and standard output to a file f, do I enter ls /willtriggererror > f >&1 or ls /willtriggererror >&f
both seem to work
I think they're equal right?
1 points to f
22:26
@copy Would've thought that the browser doesn't care, like how you don't need quotation marks if the attribute doesn't have any spaces.
ALPHABET==SKYNET :) tnw.to/p3QTi
proof that data in stored in the cloud can be lost during a thunderstorm!
22:43
I need a mapping from ascii character to JavaScript keyCode
22:55
@ʞɔᴉN hehe
@copy you should write some code
Or just, copy some
I made a mapping from ascii character to JavaScript keyCode: {32: 32, 39: 222, 44: 188, 45: 189, 46: 190, 47: 191, 48: 48, 49: 49, 50: 50, 51: 51, 52: 52, 53: 53, 54: 54, 55: 55, 56: 56, 57: 57, 59: 186, 61: 187, 91: 219, 92: 220, 93: 221, 96: 192, 97: 65, 98: 66, 99: 67, 100: 68, 101: 69, 102: 70, 103: 71, 104: 72, 105: 73, 106: 74, 107: 75, 108: 76, 109: 77, 110: 78, 111: 79, 112: 80, 113: 81, 114: 82, 115: 83, 116: 84, 117: 85, 118: 86, 119: 87, 120: 88, 121: 89, 122: 90}
And the one for uppercase: {33: 49, 34: 222, 35: 51, 36: 52, 37: 53, 38: 55, 40: 57, 41: 48, 42: 56, 43: 187, 58: 186, 60: 188, 62: 190, 63: 191, 64: 50, 65: 65, 66: 66, 67: 67, 68: 68, 69: 69, 70: 70, 71: 71, 72: 72, 73: 73, 74: 74, 75: 75, 76: 76, 77: 77, 78: 78, 79: 79, 80: 80, 81: 81, 82: 82, 83: 83, 84: 84, 85: 85, 86: 86, 87: 87, 88: 88, 89: 89, 90: 90, 94: 54, 95: 189, 123: 219, 124: 220, 125: 221, 126: 192}
23:13
why?
I have a table from keyCode to scancode which is send to the emulator (and represents a physical key). Now I want to send text programatically
So I get a response of "Connected" but nothing's coming through
whoooooo
23:29
do you even socket.io?
I have to poop, but I want a cigarette first #firstworldproblems
@ʞɔᴉN No, #ws ftw
@Nick Why not go take a crap, then not have a cigarette. I've never understood what's so attractive about paying somebody to slowly kill you...
@ʞɔᴉN It's a stream
turns out I'm not getting events because AAPL isn't being traded right now, duh
Well no, it's a Saturday/Sunday. Trading's closed.
yeeeeeep
23:33
naw
so my weekend project comes to a screeching halt
HAMMERZEIT!
Unless anyone knows of a stock that's being traded right now
the whole exchange closes not just one stock :)
you know what I mean
23:35
it's the weekend everywhere right now
Guess I'll go with BTC
@phenomnomnominal I figured but it was worth a shot
@AwalGarg L47, no need for the + 1
@SomeKittens what are you working on?
Realtime data analysis
You could try to measure the stupidity of messages here?
23:38
heh
just count how many times jquery is mentioned
and php
:o Phpbot. It slaps you if you have something related to PHP in your message and it is positive (on average)
and count every message from php_purest, or his name is now "code penis better"
I have a honeypot with realtime data
I have a honeypot with penis butter
23:41
@copy got an API?
@SomeKittens I can connect you if you want (via ZMQ)
hmm, never worked with ZMQ before.
If you don't mind, sure! You've got my email
Set up a server and give me ip and port
one sec
/me was looking into buying a "server" for exactly this purpose
23:47
> Aug 4, 2015 for @CallumBarclay – Pending
Is there a period of time I have to wait to start complaining about GitHub Education packs?
night night
Sleep is for the weak. Naight.
and now to compile libsodium
@copy might be a few, need to compile things
@SomeKittens Format is s-expressions, so you'll also need npm install s-expression
> s("((src(127.0.0.1 40296))(service_name ssdp))")
[ [ 'src', [ '127.0.0.1', '40296' ] ],
  [ 'service_name', 'ssdp' ] ]
Currently looks like this
23:55
oh fun
Is there a standards to use when choosing a port to use, or just whichever takes your fancy?

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