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8:00 PM
@phpPluginMaster That's not what this room is for
 
i was unable to ask it due to ? block
 
he means we don't write your code for you -- we give you the means to write it yourself.
if you didn't want to learn how to do it yourself we probably ignored you.
 
@SomeKittens I would die if I had to answer questions on a forum instead of SO
 
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somehow this is relevant
 
use spellcheck
 
8:03 PM
stackoverflow.com/a/29976735/2476755 is there any easy way to reduce the for loop to a Array.prototype.reduce?
 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29976789/design-class-inheritance-hierarchy nuked
 
@royhowie that was a great answer
 
@phpPluginMaster idk if I'd go so far as to call it brilliant
 
nice answer, and you have also advised that the questioner has to work out the other part: the right string format
it could be done with a simple loop though
 
@KarelG I'd just use arr.map(function (d) { return d.join("-"); }).toString()
 
8:09 PM
i'm in for these things, but the question is more: would the questioner understand that :p
 
in [Rebol and Red], 1 min ago, by HostileFork
@RebolBot
parse to-string read http://bookstro.com/ [
    thru <title>
    copy title to </title> (print title)
    to end
]
TIL rebol is PRETTY
 
woof
 
stackoverflow.com/a/29976949/774078 is it just me or is this a terrible approach to a sticky header?
 
@SterlingArcher for the love of God just link them to ryanfait.com/html5-sticky-footer
 
question: how do I replace all values of an object with 1 but keep the keys?
 
8:16 PM
@corvid for (var key in obj) { obj[key] = 1 }
 
@corvid a for..in loop should be fine
 
sticky footer is very different from a sticky header
 
or Object.keys, either way
 
(you probably also add obj.hasOwnProperty(key))
@corvid why do you want to set all the keys to 1? Do you just want a list of all the keys?
 
he wants to set all values to 1
which still doesn;t make sense
 
8:17 PM
@royhowie because I don't know how to mongo, so doing something cheesy to get around my own incompetance
 
@corvid so learn how to actually solve the problem?
 
jsfiddle.net/4mdpforc/11/show how make css blur animation not slow as pancakes?
 
that 404 page made my fan spin up
 
Evening
 
mine too
 
8:19 PM
@rlemon ugh yea
 
@Luggage that is all the blur
 
that pissed me off so much lol
 
remove the css blur and it is 60fps
 
@rlemon that's awesome
 
8:19 PM
yea, looks cool
 
@rlemon 404 screen is looking nice man
 
the engine caches it as well
 
my fan actually didn't go on…was surprised
 
after a few passes it speeds up
which is neat
 
bleh so my timeline was just squeezed after a few meetings, I think I'm just going to adapt my 3d exploding clock pen to the 404 page
 
maybe after 30 seconds itll explode
 
yea I really liked that one
 
nice your pen is clearer than that other guys too
and performs better
 
that was the goal :D
I think he uses a scaled canvas
 
@rlemon Hmm? In this room?
 
8:23 PM
@MadaraUchiha nvm Awal found it
 
I also found the rebol room, and ... something .. blew my mind.
 
just look at the rooms I'm in right now
probably interesting rooms
 
when do we get private/protected methods in JS? It was in the ES6 spec... have the delayed it, or axed it?
 
8:29 PM
got a new one on github: github.com/FREE-FROM-CMS/load_more
 
ew php
 
ugly, or beautiful enough?
 
php is never good enough
 
you can adapt to your language
 
@phpPluginMaster beautiful... on a different level.
 
8:31 PM
that's why i put the language specific stuff in its own folder
@AwalGarg see a use?
 
@phpPluginMaster Yes. Example for how not to do stuff.
 
how so?
 
user2620028
if a 404 page makes your fan spin up it might be time to clean the inside of your computer
 
user2620028
or someone made a really really stupid 404 page
 
8:33 PM
what if it's meant to make your fan spin up?
 
user2620028
refer to statement #2
 
@HatterisMad i saw that
 
user2620028
i loaded up the 404 page he was talking about and it loaded incredibly quick even on my hamster internet and not so fast computer.
 
@AwalGarg why is it an example of how not to do stuff?
 
@phpPluginMaster I don't know if you are just trolling but I told you this last time too when you put your "project" here. You are doing constructive things but incorrectly. Your "plugins" won't be usable by others if you don't document, write re-usable code, follow IoC, stop using smelly code etc.
 
8:37 PM
you could also try not using php
 
it is reusable
 
But he's the php plugin master. You can't just walk away from a title like that
 
that title is a joke
 
someone first has to build a ruby, asp, et al versions
 
It is great to see you not write libraries and frameworks but instead write smaller modules intended to be re-usable, but... don't spoil the fun.
 
8:38 PM
@Shmiddty And I'm literally kittens.
 
@SomeKittens I can confirm this.
 
@Shmiddty yeah, I was working on something similar, except I couldn't get it to work without having to run through the array more than once
 
i like to spoil the fun
 
!!s/spoil/ferment/
 
@Shmiddty i like to ferment the fun (source)
 
8:39 PM
!!s/fun/milk/
 
@NickDugger @Shmiddty i like to ferment the milk (source) (source)
 
mmm fermented horse milk
 
you can just walk away from someone named kittens also, they're not kittens
 
!!s/ferment the (.*)/$1 the cat/
 
@nderscore @NickDugger @Shmiddty i like to milk (source) (source) the cat (source)
 
@phpPluginMaster I just want you to learn more but not by bad practices like you have in your code at so many places everywhere, so you can actually contribute well to the community.
 
too broad, many answers
 
I have so fucking many tabs open to read, and so... many bookmarks. I can't even...
 
but leave it open for a bounty
@AwalGarg once you smash together what you want it works beautifully
 
...
 
8:43 PM
@AwalGarg I have this problem too
I just can't close tabs—"What if I need this page in the near future?"/"Need to fully absorb this page's contents…"
I eventually realize (at like 50 tabs) that it's time to pare it down
 
move the language specific files to where you want them, then you have what you were looking for
 
@phpPluginMaster ok.
 
installed the 404 on the new application page. boss loves it :D
now I don't feel bad doing it at work
win/win
 
@PaulIrish yep, he's in it
@AwalGarg why do you ask?
 
8:47 PM
@rlemon awesomesauce brah!
 
next item i build will be a link/div replace plugin
 
@royhowie probably would get closed
there are many questions on meta discussing canonicals
re: self-answer this on meta
 
@royhowie haha same! except that I bookmark them first :P
 
also @royhowie it already has 4 close votes which should migrate it automagically.
 
@AwalGarg I rarely bookmark; I either text them to myself via iMessage (so that they appear in more than just the safari app) or add them to my reading list.
 
8:49 PM
I don't really understand this proposal github.com/wycats/javascript-decorators
 
no need to flag.
 
@rlemon not 3k rep yet =(
 
I'm commenting here as to not clutter up the main comments.
@royhowie I know, just saying.
it'll get closed in short order
 
youtube.com/watch?v=WXzMDkKhO5g <- Attaching wings to an asteroid and flying it.
 
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Q: What is a canonical answer?

guest271314Note: This question is intended as a reference point at SO for users who may not be aware of the existence of canonical answers at SO; what canonical answers are, or are not, at SO . According to wikipedia Canonical is the adjective for canon, literally a 'rule', and has come to mean also 's...

and migrated
done and done
 
8:50 PM
@royhowie "reading list"? another form of bookmarks?
 
@rlemon in the process of rep-whoring so I can hit 3k rep today
@AwalGarg I guess, except it's separate, and I remove things once I'm finished
 
hit up the
 
I reserve bookmarks for more permanent things
 
@royhowie Which reading list do you use?
 
You can go do people's homework for rep
 
8:51 PM
@rlemon stackoverflow.com/q/29977407/2476755 why when there's this
 
@rlemon canonicals are the div content replacers?
 
your answer is not entirely correct.
you can, just not reliably, and not on all browsers
pretty sure IE still allows you to do all sorts of evil shit utilizing activeX
 
@rlemon what
s a canonicals then
 
@phpPluginMaster I wasn't talking to you
 
@rlemon okay, but we want IE to die
 
8:52 PM
k
 
No we don't. New IE is fine. We want people that don't update their software to die.
 
@rlemon It's our good friend "not a troll"
 
@Luggage clarification: the IE that allows allows you to do all sorts of evil shit utilizing activeX
 
@SomeKittens yup
 
@Luggage It's Safari that needs to die, it's the only non-evergreen browser
 
8:54 PM
@rlemon either way; 75/150 rep today
 
ok, well, I still want people that don't update software to die. Can't I have that?
 
not sure if I want to submit myself to the jQuery tag questions just yet
 
This feels like it needs a lot more. First, the question isn't a question (yet). Second, you just post a bunch of links, you never actually define a canonical question/answer. — BradleyDotNET 1 min ago
 
but osx comes with curl, so safari is obsolete
 
Opera mini needs to die too.
 
8:55 PM
@SomeKittens I actually like Safari
 
evergreen?
 
@SomeKittens ugh, he keeps pasting this code on promise answers stackoverflow.com/a/28259312/829835
 
(battery life is way longer on my mac than if I use chrome)
 
@phpPluginMaster comnstantly-updating like chrome/firefox
and the new IE replacement
 
JUST BECAUSE CODE WORKS DOESNT MAKE IT GOOD CODE!
/rant
 
8:55 PM
firefox should die
 
as long as MDN stays.
 
and chrome
 
...
 
FireFox is great. if only the dev tools were.
 
They are!
 
8:56 PM
@AwalGarg that's hate speech
 
they are not.
 
@rlemon some people like firebug
 
THEY AREEEE
 
user1596138
Why is that Yale message starred?
 
some people are masochists as well.
@Jhawins because some people might wanna be made aware of it.
sad day when any programming pioneers pass.
 
user1596138
8:57 PM
Oh is he a notable figure?
 
@rlemon was wondering whether he had any connection to this chatroom
 
Network tab and sources tab of firefox dev tools > network tab and sources tab of chrome dev tools
 
haskell.
 
user1596138
Hrmm..
 
!!google Paul Hudak
 
one of the original VOD researchers is still doing well
 
@rlemon the exact dates of programming pioneers departures are often unknown. We only know when the desiccated remains were eventually discovered in their homes.
 
@AwalGarg I think I like safari's sources tab the best; its networks tab is egregious, though
 
Now I made myself sad.
 
@royhowie Doesn't safari have the same dev tools as chrome?
 
9:00 PM
slightly different?
 
@AwalGarg it looks similar, but not the same: developer.apple.com/safari/tools
 
user1596138
@Luggage ...this is true of most people?
 
I don't really know. I thought they would be the same.
 
@SomeKittens and the meta comments have started.
:grabs popcorn:
 
@rlemon hurrah!
 
9:00 PM
@Luggage thanks, TIL.
 
@Jhawins I was implying that these types of people are either reclusive or friendless and therefor a lot of time would pass before they were discovered dead. A sterotype.
 
user1596138
:(
 
Any answer I wrote. — canon 1 min ago
 
canon has a lot of them on meta
I really wanna comment: "we" the "community" like canonical's, but Bradly is correct, they often are self-answered and well structured.
 
@rlemon I think the OP meant to self-answer but didn't know how to?
 
9:03 PM
no
but it is 5pm so I can't get into it
 
time to go home
 
OP has been in the room before arguing that bad code isn't bad based on the fact that it works.
 
We the community of these united sites of Stack Exchange
 
4 nested ternaries IS bad
but I digress, home time
!!afk hamburgers and cheesecake
 
@rlemon That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
9:05 PM
why are nested ternaries bad?
 
readability
 
@AwalGarg just use an if/else
 
@AwalGarg do you know how to keep requests in the network tab?
 
or a switch, depending on the situation
 
@FlorianMargaine Why yes.
 
9:06 PM
I don't
 
Ok?
 
if I refresh the page, all the requests go away
is there a checkbox or something?
 
#troll-alert
 
I'm serious
 
Then I am not helping you. Go google.
 
9:07 PM
 
...
RTFM SUCKER!!
Also, I am very well aware that you are very well aware of how to do it.
 
no, I don't know
 
Then go settings and enable persistent logs, noob
 
googling just gives me this bug that doesn't tell me how to do it
oh... I have to change the settings
annoying
 
user2620028
Just turned on Nirvana greatest hits album. Time for bug fixes and refactoring.
 
9:09 PM
thanks @AwalGarg
@AwalGarg in chrome it's just a checkbox on the network tab, so that you can very easily enable/disable it
I was looking for something similar in ff
 
@FlorianMargaine you don't see any room requests?
 
@AwalGarg with the name of the room, I just ignored it
 
@HatterisMad BEAT BUGS OUTTA ME
 
@SomeKittens raids
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/24918629/… going through my old questions and I came across this; I had meant to delete the question, since it was off-topic (caused by a typo), but then someone answered it with what I had already found (see comment) What should I do, accept the answer?
 
9:15 PM
@FlorianMargaine Perhaps you need some Incesticide?
@royhowie accept it
 
@royhowie accept your fate
 
@SomeKittens but the whole question is off-topic and that person really just copied what I already found
I guess they deserve the accept since they trudged through the docs (and gave the actual reference)
ugh but now my rep is some odd number
now I need to find some answers to downvote
 
Yay two random downvotes
Any reason why this would get a downvote?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum got the same today
 
Also, same for this
 
9:20 PM
 
Maybe its someone from chat
 
on questions though
no rep lose for the downvoter
saddens me but I have a -1 question now :(
 
@MadaraUchiha hahahaha
 
now just one
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum that has happened more than once to me, e.g. this answer
 
9:23 PM
I already upvoted that before
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah, I was going to say that I think I already brought that up
not asking for upvotes
it just never makes any sense how people vote
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum could be not-a-troll
 
sometimes I think they just misclicked or something
 
two downvotes at close proximity
 
@royhowie I think the same when I receive upvotes :/
 
9:25 PM
can anyone help me with this
 
Speaking of, how his meta question doing?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you've given nearly 1.3k answers; it's bound to happen at some point
 
9:53 PM
anyone here
 
@steve Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
10:11 PM
are air brakes the same key as wheel brakes?
 
uhm... you see the same construction at trucks ?
or am i misunderstanding your question
 
@Luggage no?
 
i can't find the key. not in the ksp wiki
 
Maybe they use backward thrusts or something...
 
ah, you're talking about KSP ...
// not into that
 
10:15 PM
I thought this was the Javascript/KSP room.
 
No, this is the KSP room. Sometimes people talk JavaScript.
 
ohh.. i might need to upgrade the spaceplane hanger to get action grousp..
 
i've seen a funny review about KSP on steam once... * digging *
 
and now that I'm on my home pc the noise is not animating again
but I can see that it is a paint issue
:/
 
10:19 PM
Now we need to say "everything in javascript is an object" with more care :/
 
does anyone else see this:
the green is what is being painted
 
@AwalGarg how u been
 
you'll notice areas not green the 'noise' isn't animated
 
did u ever finish the framework
 
@Steve Sorry, no time to play.
 
10:21 PM
ok
can u help me again
 
Sorry, busy right now.
 
its k
 
@rlemon on FF : nice (works fine). But i don't see what you see because i don't know what you're looking for. Sorry :)
 
@rlemon how the hell do you guys do this stuff in so minimal code :O
Need to learn canvas :/
 
i recommend that. it's a nice feature for JS
 
10:25 PM
@rlemon In my case the non-green areas are also animated, the gif is f*** ~22.x MB
 
@AwalGarg the trick is also the problem that is fucking up for me (and so far one other confirmed person) on Chrome
I'm using the canvas element as a css background image
so I'm only drawing 256*256 square of noise and tiling it
but that is causing the browser to not repaint it.. but inconsistently so
 
still looks pretty good though
 
if you're seeing all of the noise on the page animated, you're seeing what you should
it is very obvious when it is glitching
 
yes, all the noise is animated.
 
then it is fine for you
my work pc and home pc have the same browser version and everything :P
boggles the mind.
extensions are sync'd
so it isn't a conflict with one of those.
 
10:29 PM
Just one thing, the "Page not found" is visible for a very less amount of time for each cycle, might wanna tweak that.
 
^^ true that
 
Hey JS room. .Net web dev here. Have any of you used Sencha? What are your opinions on it? I have a client that's using it and I'm curious what I'd be getting into working with it.
 
im trying to ddo simple thing can anyone help?
 
depends on what that entails
 
10:34 PM
@Steve No, of course not, you haven't asked a question
 
41 mins ago, by Caprica Six
@steve Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
my question im trying to display text value from java script in table link for fiddle jsfiddle.net/tb8gdazk
number 1 description will be apple and number 2 description will be orange
 
id values 1,2,3,n are a terrible choice
 
why on earth did you leave all the anchor tags open?
 
10:39 PM
gotta fly to the poles in a plane, i wonder how long that'll take
 
@rlemon changed them to list1 and list2
 
I guess extJS is another name for Sencha.
 
@SpencerRuport nice avatar
 
Thanks!
 
yw
 
10:43 PM
@KendallFrey i.imgur.com/WkBTqOr.jpg tonight's materials have arrived.
 
@rlemon ?
oh lol
 
you got it before I could find the message in history :D
 
ohh nice, the plane is taking fuel from all tanks and staying balanced.
 
Yeah, I love that feature
it's a jet engine thing
 
yea, it still might get a bit unbalanced latre, but i don't need to monitor it as often
 
10:45 PM
Today I emptied an asteroid of its ore
 
i have yet to do any mining, i'm still early in my career
 
now I'm working on crashing it into Kerbin
 
ohh, i got that down
 
@Luggage I haven't touched Career yet
 
this makes me sad
 
10:47 PM
career is the onl reason i'm flying this slow-ass plane to the north pole
 
@Steve jsfiddle.net/tb8gdazk/4 Please do research :/
 
@rlemon aww he feels sad for @Loktar how sweet
 
is loktar here?
@Loktar dude
 
@AwalGarg im tyring
oops i did it wrong
 
10:53 PM
@rlemon This generation has been doomed
 
@rlemon I'll throw 10000 slices of toasts and see which side turns up most - butter, or plain.
 
these kids don't immediately see the value in something that I liked as a kid!. the world no longer makes sense!
 
I am not a web-dev, but I would like to build a simple blog. Do you guys have recommendations? Should I try a template or start from scratch?
 
@ItachiUchiha just use a service like Blogger
 
Just write in html files
 

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