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Not sure why this exists, but it's pretty cool github.com/trevorlinton/webkit.js
 
so you can put a browser in your browser?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum o/
 
polyfill a new layout engine into IE 6
 
> At least 16GB of free space (seriously)
 
3:05 PM
anybody with an appetite for chemistry here ?
 
only organic chemistry
 
nah nah
@BenjaminGruenbaum Since you have windows phone people at office, one simple question bro can you ask them ?
@SomeKittens Speaking being lazy I still use procedural stuff to do it.
personally i'd prefer alembic + python
 
If this is the schema migration question, I think simple is the rigth asnwer for SomeKittens
his app is internal, not somethign where end users will be upgrading their databases. That rules out the need for some of the more complex solutions.
 
3:33 PM
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@IonicăBizău yes, you have a build step right? You don't write raw js by hand? — Esailija 1 hour ago
Is it a problem that I don't have build step for node code? :(
 
@Esailija for node code, there's no reason to not write raw js by hand. — Florian Margaine 1 hour ago
 
@dievardump No.
 
@dievardump Absolutely.
If you don't have some sort of build script, you (and more importantly, other people) can't reliably build the code exactly the same way every time.
 
Aha, was sure that answer wouldn't all be "no, no problem".
 
3:36 PM
It's absolutely critical if you want some kind of CI build, and a really good idea if you want to run tests and lint every time.
 
Writing raw JS by hand has nothing to do with it though
A build step makes sense in most contexts, but it's not a problem of whether you write raw JS or not
 
@SecondRikudo The "yes, you have a build step right? You don't write raw js by hand?" question doesn't make sense, but the answer to "Is it a problem that I don't have build step for node code?" is "you damn well better"
 
JS can be both the source and the compiled target.
 
I usually don't build when writing for node.Linding is directly in my editor.
 
@dievardump Do you work in a team?
 
3:38 PM
I don't write test because I'm a lazy bstrd.
 
@dievardump then you don't write working code.
 
Usually not
@ssube I write working code that is not heavily tested. That does not mean it does not work.
 
If you don't work in a team, then you may very well use the methods you feel comfortable with
I have a build step for testing and linting regardless, because I don't trust the implementation provided by the IDE
 
@dievardump if you can't run a test suite and prove that it works, then it doesn't matter if it could maybe work.
 
I disagree with that.
 
3:40 PM
more importantly, if I can't git clone; build and have tests run and pass, then as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't work and I won't be using it in prod.
Not having tests is similar to using undefined behavior. Maybe it looks like it works for now, but nobody knows what will happen tomorrow, and you're going to end up screwed.
 
Exactly, you choose to think it doesn't work because you have expectations. That does not mean it does not. But I understand why you wouldn't use such ting.
 
It frees the other devs to use the editor of their choice.
 
@ssube can't !== don't
I don't write tests either, but I can. I just don't
 
@ssube lol
@ssube so having 90% test coverage means that you won't run the app in production?
 
@FlorianMargaine that's the exact opposite of what I said.
Having 90% coverage, which is fairly impressive, is a very good reason to prefer that code over other options.
 
3:45 PM
well, it means that 10% "nobody knows what will happen tomorrow, and you're going to end up screwed"
in a 10k LOC app, it means that 1000 lines of code "nobody knows what will happen tomorrow, and you're going to end up screwed"
 
my clients test for me in production ;) :P
 
I mean, I agree with you generally that tests are good, but saying that an app doesn't work because it doesn't have tests is stupid
 
There is a big difference between one library that has 'decent but not 100% coverage', a build process to package in various formats and another library that's just some .js files in a pile.
 
I don't get testing... I mean, I test as I write the code... if the code doesn't work, I fix it.
 
@NickDugger in larger applications unit tests do save time in the end
 
3:47 PM
@NickDugger do you re-test all the old code you wrote?
 
You have to draw a line for practicality, depending on how important the application is (if it's flight control, then it should have 100% coverage). 90% is safely above that for most purposes.
 
@NickDugger And what if something you do breaks the app in a different place?
 
however, I also agree with @FlorianMargaine. just because an application doesn't have tests doesn't mean it is broken
 
Not having any tests, or even a build script, makes it seem like you just don't care if it works and is a good indication that it probably won't.
 
@ssube Yeah, it's a good thing flight control software isn't written in VB6 for Windows XP, right?
 
3:48 PM
@ssube that is a bold assumption
 
@SecondRikudo neither are ATMs, hush.
@rlemon Even if the code still works, it shows a lack of discipline.
I won't use someone's code if they can't hold at least a dozen limes.
 
it shows a bad habit, which is shared amungst a lot of programmers.
 
what about a dozen lemons?
 
cocaine?
 
3:49 PM
I should add tests to erinome and erinome-native...
 
I'm not trying to justify not writing unit tests, I'm just saying that there is a lot of code out there that works just fine without them
 
!!afk going to doctors then back to work.
 
you can have code that works without tests, but you can't really prove it.
 
@ssube You don't always have to prove it
You just have to fix it.
 
3:51 PM
and tests don't prove that the code works. It's possible to have real proofs that the code works, but nobody does it anyway...
 
Welcome to the business world!
 
If it works when you use the 'app', then it works, and you've proved it
 
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@ssube dat comma
 
Not everything needs a 10 page certificate of approval
 
Fix my Outlook so that it syncs with my phone on your way out please
 
3:52 PM
When we started requiring tests (and never-decreasing coverage) here, a lot of our contractors went from delivering "working" features the next day to taking a week or so, but we saved so much time in QA.
 
@ssube for the record, I'm mostly playing devil's advocate there
 
@FlorianMargaine as am I, from the person-in-charge-of-enforcing-coverage-and-build-processes side. I use code that doesn't have great tests or CI, but given the choice, would pick a library with reliable tests.
 
oh, given the choice, of course
who wouldn't
 
Guys, this is better than my last attempt: Can I rewrite one single function of a controller in AngularJS? imagine contoller A has foo = function () { console.log('A'); } and I want that function to be console.log('B'); how would I go about doing that? [I'm not asking for code, just that my google-fu ran out]
 
@MoshMage wat
 
3:55 PM
@FlorianMargaine I assume people who don't have build scripts probably wouldn't really think about that too much.
 
@FlorianMargaine A controller that rewrites another controller
(or.. part of another controller)
 
@ssube when working in node, you often restart it, often using some tool like nodemon, during development. Of course, you have linting tools and the likes, but not always before running the code
 
see, I've never liked that workflow. Especially with node's load time, I'd rather run something and restart the server.
 
Jesus Charlie
 
do you mean restart, or reload?
 
3:58 PM
can you reload the code without restarting?
 
not easily, at least.
 
@FlorianMargaine something like this (warn: pseudo code) jsfiddle.net/1cv1gLu7
 
depends on your env. Not sure about node. with the JVM you can, but it causes problems in pretty short order.
 
my recompile time is way longer that node's startup..
 
@ssube you can't in node
well, afaik at least
 
3:59 PM
@NickDugger Muhammed Charlie... Hebdo
 
@MoshMage ah. Pass a common object between both. But it's usually a bad code though.
 
@NickDugger *Jesus is Charlie. It logically follows, then, that Jesus bit my finger.
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i'm thinking of renting some co-work space
coffee shops have many downsides.
any good or bad experiences with that?
 
home isn't good?
 
home has many distractions.
and more importantly, I have poor self control.
 
4:01 PM
I have a closed room
ah.
 
@Luggage It's a great source of humor. Tons of "app developers" with "the next great idea" and brand new retina macbooks talking loudly to one another, then going to work for an all-natural gluten-free vegan soy pizza place one day.
 
but yes.. i have a spare room i thought of converting...
so me and my macbook retina will fit right in?
<- stereotype
 
well, I'm in my work room only when I work
and there's nothing else in there... so I can only work
it's ok really
 
I have everything in about 20sq ft of space
 
Do you have this tab open?
 
4:03 PM
So sometimes work and home overlap
 
yea, i could do that. i have the room. There is some mental switch when I go to work, though.
 
@copy that's another issue.
I had that tab open when I worked in an open space too.
 
indeed..
 
I have a home office. But it has a beer fridge :/
 
On Friday when the power went out, I realized just how much time I spend sitting in this chair
I do almost nothing else except necessary biological functions
 
4:05 PM
and the right chair could remove that 'distraction'.
 
A chair with snacks?
sounds good to me
 
In my next apartment, I want a big 'ol leather chair that I can just sink into when I get home after work. That would be the best.
 
I want a racing seat :3
 
@NickDugger My buddies and I have been discussing getting a house next year, and a coat tree for smoking jackets by the front door.
 
a chair made of snacks
 
4:07 PM
Come home from work, drop your stuff, put on a jacket and grab a beer.
 
I had a coat tree from walmart... I tossed it out.
 
@RalphWiggum that sounds tricky. what specifically?
not chips, not chocolate
 
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The form spam from the weekend mostly just says "Guess who loves you"...
 
@KendallFrey doritos, held together by mountain dew
 
not anything crumbly
 
4:08 PM
pretzel chairs
built to withstand a cat
 
@RalphWiggum my pancreas twitched when I read that
 
but not like a fat cat
 
@KendallFrey that's because it's happy and excited
 
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@ssube smoking jackets?
 
@Jhawins Yes, it's the new thing. Weed is so 2014
 
4:09 PM
weed is so yesterday
 
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> Roll up a fat joint with these yellow jackets
 
Also all the years before that, too.
 
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Smokin wasps
 
smoking sausages
yum
or ham
 
we're not about to roll our own blunts or anything that pedestrian. We have jackets for that.
 
4:10 PM
I got stung on the lip from a wasp, once. It flew into my soda can without me noticing, and I almost drank it... lol
 
I've only gotten stung by a bee once or twice
 
I don't think I've ever been stung by a bee. Yalls are weirdos
 
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A wasp flew up under my leather jacket on the bike once and started stinging me everywhere I stopped on the side of the highway and was just running into the ditch stripping lmfao
 
@RalphWiggum same.
 
It often requires going outdoors.
 
4:11 PM
I run into the ditch stripping on a regular basis
 
So, I haven't been stung, either.
 
The first time I was stung, it was indoors
 
I volunteered at a nature center once and was setting up an archeology activity for little kids when I unearthed a wasp hive and got stung many, many times all over my torso. I'm lucky I'm not allergic
 
bet the kids loved it
 
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I've stepped on at least a half dozen bee/wasps and got stung. How have you never been stung?
 
4:12 PM
You know what could improve your office? BEES: youtube.com/watch?v=PYtXuBN1Hvc
 
@Jhawins Not all of us are rednecks
 
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It's not redneck to walk through grass...
 
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Unless you guys don't have that
 
We don't have grass here in the city.
 
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lmao
 
4:13 PM
@Jhawins No, but you are by far and away the reddest necked person here
 
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I peed off my porch yesterday twice
 
...
I stayed indoors all of last week. Never so much as opened a door
 
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I was out changing radiators and why would I go inside if no neighbors can see that side of the house...
 
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I've peed off my porch with 3 other guys all at once
 
@Jhawins You seem determined to keep the aforementioned status
 
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4:15 PM
You guys are the weird ones
 
What, I pee with guys too
but only in the bush
 
!!s/with/on/
 
@RalphWiggum What, I pee on guys too (source)
 
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!!s/on/in/
 
@CapricaSix I bet you do, kinky fucker
 
4:15 PM
@Jhawins @RalphWiggum What, I pee in guys too (source) (source)
 
whoa
 
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Now that's kinky
 
omg omg omg regex is back!
 
welcome to yesterday ages ago
 
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So -this is totally unrelated- yesterday I changed radiators and made my not-so-mechanically-inclined brother help me. He laid on his back under the truck to grab something and set his head down in a 2gallon pan full of antifreeze. Antifreeze is fuckin nasty. Highlight of my year so far // cc @HatterisMad
 
4:20 PM
If you lived close to me, I'd totally make you work on my car
 
@FlorianMargaine sorry I missed it but happy belated birthday!
 
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I'd totally let you pay me for it
 
paying for stuff is overrated
 
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My sisters friend in total seriousness asked if he could pay me in weed to do his brakes and I'd never met the guy
 
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The rest of the story is unimportant
 
4:23 PM
lol
 
lol
 
I bet
 
dammit kendall
 
that's a fair amount of weed
 
4:24 PM
It may have been an unfair amount of weed, who knows
 
@rlemon @KendallFrey youtube.com/watch?v=8hYuE2Y2y6A
use headphones lol
 
@SterlingArcher wow
 
the other sense of fair. :|
 
dont even tag someone obsessed with unexpectedthuglife
 
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@SterlingArcher most slut dress award goes to that chick
 
4:24 PM
I see how it is
 
I didn't want to feed the addiction D:
 
haha
 
YOU MUST GET CLEAN LOKTAR
 
man I love that sub so much
most are as good as the wasted gifs imo
 
@Jhawins Don't make me prove you wrong
 
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4:26 PM
@Loktar wasted gif are best haha
 
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baysted gifs are better but less common
 
Some wasted gifs suck, but others are glorious
 
I made a gif the other day
 
Like that weird push forklift guy that jhawins posted haha
 
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4:26 PM
That one had me in tears
 
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Michael Bay + Wasted
 
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@SterlingArcher Hahaha dudeeeeee that was one of the best things I've ever seen
 
@Jhawins glorious
 
Absolutely brilliant
 
anyone working on this months challenge?
 
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4:28 PM
@SterlingArcher idk where I got that pallet jack one
 
@SterlingArcher be the admin
 
I don't even reddit account bro D:
Oh guys, good news
I have a date this weekend :)
 
Is she single?
 
She's the one I was telling you about!
.. hey fuck you dude xD
 
4:30 PM
 
oh my god the baby xD
 
love the material design
but it will be overused and get old fast I'm sure
 
these are gold XD
 
@SterlingArcher Does she know about the bird
 
4:32 PM
No but she might learn about the worm :O
 
I was under the assumptions that everyone knew about the bird.
!!YouTube bird is the word
 
@KendallFrey was... was that just a waffle falling down? ._.
 
Because the bird bird bird, the bird is the word
@SterlingArcher wasted
 
@Loktar :P
 
4:33 PM
One of my favorites
 
(read the title)
 
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You'll just have to imagine the wasted part
 
@CapricaSix I can dance better than that, and I can't dance
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum so no migration tools?
 
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@SterlingArcher lol yeah I saw that
 
I love the internet
 
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@SterlingArcher do you even lift
 
I'm not sure how I feel about that filename
!!learn tl;dr "<>http://i.imgur.com/VOZaZZi.gif"
 
@SterlingArcher Command tl;dr learned
 
4:40 PM
Beautiful
 
@SterlingArcher thanks!
 
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Last one omfg...
 
@Jhawins oh my god that's a blown ankle for sure dude holy shit
 
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4:45 PM
Official Monthly challenge for February: Make a fiddle that turns anything into wasted
 
@FlorianMargaine so you're finally 18 eh? ;) <3
 
@SterlingArcher yeah, we can finally have sex
 
Hell. Yes.
This is amazing.
 
lmfao
Five Nights At Freddy's: Scary Mode
 
4:51 PM
\o
 
:? this makes me feel for non pc owners
 
lol
s/for//
 
wow they are totally allowing you to play multiplayer for free for one weekend, they are so generous!
 
s/free multiplayer weekend/the one weekend PSN isn't hacked and down/
 
PCs 1 - Consoles 0.
 
4:52 PM
we'll see
 
I was going to buy a really nice computer, but then my car died on the side of a highway and that dream went down the metaphorical drain
 
I understand the PC gamer logic now.
Like, bitch I already pay $85 a month for my TV internet bundle why should I pay $60/year more for access
 
Also, since my brother bought a PS3, I realized they make a fuckload of noise
clunka clunka clunka
like wtf is that
 
PS2 be like a blender at 3am
 
@KendallFrey disc access?
they still use those legacy spinning optical drives
 
4:53 PM
well, sure, but my computer has a disk too
 
@SterlingArcher don't get cable tv
@KendallFrey disc !== disk
 
@ssube you !== likeable
 
@ssube verizon fios actually :) The internet part is like.. $35 a month for 50mbps
If I had life my way my TV would be eternally netflix
But alas, American Horror Story.
And Parks and Recreation
 
yeah, sometimes you have to pay for hulu plus
 
HULU PLUS DOESNT HAVE THE SYFY CHANNEL OK GAWD
Love the syfy channel. Hate that they changed from SciFi to SyFy but that's another story.
 
4:56 PM
does syfy still have shows?
 
American Horror Story is one of the worst shows that I've seen in recent years
 
i assumed they were exclusively reruns now
 
Shockingly yes, and a few good ones
z-nation is pretty good. like a more comedic walking dead
and I'm pretty excited for 12 Monkeys to premier
 
PlayCanvas is damn awesome !
 
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@NickDugger I agree
 
4:59 PM
I just watch the trailer of "Before I Go To Sleep". Took me 10 years back when I was writing a story about a young man living in the wood with a few friends. He had the same problem as the girl in this film. pretty crazy.
 
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@Loktar LMFAO yeah have you seen what EA does? Not only do I have to have $60/year xbox live gold but another $69 pass to play Battlefield itself online
 
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And if you take the disc to another xbox - buy another pass
 
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I just gave the fucking game away when my pass expired. It's like having to buy the game once a year at release day price
 
@Loktar have you tried using playcanvas ?
 
My headphones have been in for 45 minutes and nothing has been playing
I hate that
dude. that first comment gif. Now that's what I call hunting.
> Well, fuck - seal, probably.
 
5:14 PM
!!Babylon or playcanvas or three or just use panda or unity
 
@darkyen00 playcanvas
 
!!are you sure ?
 
@darkyen00 Certainly not
 
!!are you a troll ?
 
@darkyen00 I expect so
 
5:16 PM
@SterlingArcher I remember that. Fucking brilliant
 
@Loktar Can u have a look at PlayCanvas and Babylon and give a verdict on which should be easier ?
(experience)
 
I havent tried any of them
@darkyen00 I'm heading to lunch Ill try and look today. I've seen both i remember being impressed with PlayCanvas
 
@Loktar youtube.com/watch?v=QRC4sCvaVUI this song is beautiful :O
great lyrics
 
I prefer justin bieber
 
@SomeGuy The 'wiki' subdomain on your site leads me to believe it is a wiki, not that it's about a wiki.
 
5:25 PM
@SomeKittens Can you think of a better subdomain to use?
 
@NickDugger May justin beiber burst your years all day all night.
 
I've also got read mapped to it
 
Hello everybody
 
YOU AGAIN
WHY MUST YOU PERSIST IN THIS TORMET?
 
IT'S FUN
 
5:38 PM
RYAN!!!!
It's been a long time.
 
Basic question but I am always wondering. How do you guys do inheritance in javascript? I do it like Lower.prototype = new Super()
 
@RyanKinal o/ a girl came and you left the room ? are you guys married :?
 
@SomeKittens Thanks anyway. I'll try to think of something else
 
@darkyen00 Haha, no. I've just been really busy at work.
 
Liar. I am a fan, i know everything about you !
 
Lucky for you guys, I've stopped giving a shit about work again.
2
 
@RyanKinal lol
 
@RyanKinal eh, I might start again soon.
 
@SomeKittens you are never gonna finish that are you ?
 
It kind of goes like this:
Executives: "Guys! You can redesign and rewrite our entire system! Do it up!"
Ryan: *excited*
Team: "Let's do this in JavaScript"
Ryan: *dies of happy*
Executives: "Ryan, you still have to work on legacy shit because you're the only one who know it."
Ryan: *murders everybody*
 
5:45 PM
@darkyen00 It has a long way to go, yes, but I'm making major progress on my side projects.
 
@RyanKinal Hahahahahahahahaha
 
Spent Friday night building a (bad) AI for SPACESHIPS.
Saturday and Sunday were Card Minion.
but now I'm at regular work
 
@SomeKittens If you want allies their is a good article on ai for this kinda games
(allies as in drones)
also you should try reading transcendence's source :D
 
@darkyen00 inorite
 
@darkyen00 That appears to be in C++
 
5:47 PM
yeap
but the game itself is pretty kickass, I spent almost 120 hours playing that :D
(that is years ago though -- around when it first came out)
@RyanKinal youtube.com/watch?v=CSemARaqGqE you gotta make a song + video like this, you will get a ton of fanboys then :D ... and your boss will be scared to give you legacy stuff :-)
 
Very nice book this one
The syntax is highlighted ;
Did you guys know about Object.__noSuchMethod__ ? Lol pretty useful.
 

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