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19:00
@rlemon did you see how fluid this was when it's HTML? southouse.tk/face.html
@Gordon so the one presently here is certainly the same... what to do?
@Loktar Thanks for the link. Perhaps the only complaint I have about ST3... the only complaint, is the fact that they left all of these great ST2 plugins behind... and I'm not much of a fan of holding onto old software....
I wish there was a better answer, as there is a lot of good ST2 stuff that gets left behind...
@Gordon how is trolling defined?
@AwalGarg who
@corvid A system like require.js can still work, but Phonegap / Apache cordova might already have a 'idiomatic' way to handle that. I'm unfamiliar with it.
@ziGi on a case by case basis
good night people, sweet dreams :)
from what I have seen so far, there are some brilliant JS programmers here, why don't you sit down and write a troll detecting algorithm that can be integrated for the Chat, I bet that would be a million dollar idea
I'm trying to get the room owners to shut down trolling to bring the chat back to a normal level. So trolling will be tolerated less and less for a bit.
Also, it doesn't help that some people are simply here to 90% troll and 10% contribute to JS topics
I don't like that
me too
I am totally together with Archer
19:04
I think the chat just goes as it goes
user1596138
I have a few people on my ignore list now days... I used to think that was dumb but recently eh. I know I contribute to the nonsense but I'd like to see it gone too
The only bad thing that happened is that people who didn't like other people got into discussions instead of ignoring it
@corvid The link you gave doesn't look like a phonegap project as the phonegap page sdescribes it.
user1596138
I even have a room owner ignored..
@copy yes, to be honest I am to be blamed for that
I admit, but that's because I can't let go when I think something is unfair
19:06
@Luggage it's not. Are there any restrictions on apache cordova vs plain js? Shouldn't it compile all the same nonetheless?
@Jhawins y u ignore me brah D:
@ziGi Exactly. I don't even know what you did because I ignore everything stupid and forget about it 5 minutes later
user1596138
Can't handle you brah
but that's good
oh my txt didn't send thats why xD
19:07
you are a smart guy
user1596138
Oh lol I didn't get them till just now
@corvid Sorta. JS is the same, but how to organize projects can differ depending on platform. Old web pages just use multiple <script> tags and dump everythign in global, new ones often use a tool to concatenate for you like require.js. Node has it's own semi-standard way of organizing code into files.
to be honest I am not sure how trolling even manifests, i.e. I can't distinguish me just joking around from people thinking I am trolling, I think that is the problem
and people just react sharply
anyways
How can I select all input elements contained in a tr with the class "selected"? $(".selected") gives me my table rows but how can I get the input elements?
I don't want to talk about it anymore
19:09
Just investigate common patterns for organizing projects in cordova if that's your tool.
@Shoe do $(".selected > input")
@Shoe $(".selected").find("input")
@Zigi doesn't that do only first level descendents?
@Shoe he said he has inputs in selected TR-s
inputs can't (well, shoudln't) go in TRs
19:12
Oh my fault. I meant inputs in a td which are in tr
yes td
doesn't matter
Ohh, it matters!
user1596138
shoe if you want all decendents use $(".selected input")
it's better than what Nick suggested since it executes less functions
user1596138
That first comment tho
19:13
LOL
Couldn't you just do $('.selected input')?
@Cereal that's what I told him exactly
$(".selected").find("input") works $('.selected input') empty set
@Jhawins I'll see your link and raise you: pets.stackexchange.com/questions/2725/…
Quick, someone tell me why =D
19:14
can you show us a sample structure
Shoe
Just a regular table
with inputs in the cells
What about this one?
2
Q: How many times must I satisfy the pope's demands?

fredleyMy first encounter with the pope was bad enough, but hitting him again the second time it's going to take me ages to meet his demands. How many times does he come around in total?

I'm mostly done with my project :) After nights of severe migraines I've got there!
I had a terrible headache the other night. It was so bad it woke me up. I thought my eyes were going to pop out of my head
A few weeks ago, I had such a bad headache at work, that my vision even started to blur. It was really weird.
Damn you too? That feeling has become familiar. Too much for my likings :/
19:19
I've worked with a scintillating scotoma before. That's horrible.
!!google scintillating scotoma
rlemon taught me about those
I mostly have pain on the back of my eyes and did read many things like brain bleeding or eyeball nerve infection
wtf
The pictures make it look like floaters, is that what they are?
19:21
Don't go to the internet for diagnosis.
No, nevermind, not the same thing
I've never had that
@NickDugger Do you know what a blind spot looks like?
I've never seen one.
How would you know what a blind spot looks like, I feel like that's an oxy-moron
I take that as a no
!!google blind spot test image
No no I don't, I just like to know/guess what I have before going to the doctor, so I can prevent the things aggravating it
That Wikipedia page is useful though
Ever stare a a spot (say, on the wall) and then the things not directly in your gaze start disappearing?
@ziGi How are you going bro?
Does anyone know any good libraries for converting HTML into Markdown text?
@dckuehn pandoc is one. It's a commandline tool. I only use it for markdown -> html, but it does the other way, too.
19:23
@SufiDeveloper trying to help a guy here
@Luggage Yes. That's also employed in a meditation technique as far as I know of :)
what's the point of the callback function in require.js when you are loading your modules in the main.js file?
@Luggage anything that I can tie into an angular library?
@ziGi Coolio :) I guess C?
19:25
Usually markdown is converted into html. Strange that you'd want to do it the other way.
@dckuehn Hm. I have no answer to that. Probably.
JS
Well, I have a client-side wysiwyg editor, we don't want our clients to worry about html or markdown syntax, we jsut want them to write text, click buttons, and submit
Why can't I save fiddles anymore
19:26
@corvid like require(['somemodule'], function( somemodule) {} );?
jsFiddle is getting DDoS's now
yeah?
Okay, but why do you then need to convert that generated HTML into markdown?
makes no sense
@jsfiddle, Worldwide
Online code editor and playground.
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I have a list in my footer with some links, and when I click in my last list element "See more links" I replace
my list to another with jQuery slideToggle(). But when I do this I see my footer bottom go a bit down and up again.
Somebody there know how Can I fix this? I have my example here: http://codepen.io/anon/pen/JEBql
19:27
We want to save the markdown, not the html
here you go, it works
Ok, I can accept that, I just don't understand why.
@NickDugger I can think of a reason. Say you are using an editor like Aloha that makes clean html and want to save markdown
@Luggage yes, I don't get why that exists. What if I just want to have my views, models, controllers etc in separate files? Why does that callback need to exist? To instantiate them?
@corvid requirejs is asyncronous. It fetches the javascript and the callback is what it fires when it's done.
19:28
^ 1
@corvid Same reason other ajax calls use a callback, actually.
Get module > do something with module when we finally have it.
!!afk Cooking kebab, yoghurt sauce and chilli sauce with a bit of salad
I understand the concept of asynchronous and callback, I just don't get this concept of importing modules, really.
@corvid Because the files are located on a remote machine and it takes an unknown amount of time to get them You need to use a callback so your web page isn't just locked up waiting
console.log('loading...');
require(['MyApplication'], function (app) { app.start(); console.log('loaded'); });
19:34
Where'd the save button go in JSFiddle
hm okay that makes sense... so on the example I gave earlier, these lines would go in the callback:
var state = new AppState;

new AppRouter;
new AppView;
Parse.history.start();
Oh it's broken right now
@Shoe you probably have to have an account to save now
Not 100% sure
Couldnt save even in my account. I think they have it turned off
my daughter got her prize today woot
samsung 40", lol pretty bad ass that she won
19:36
Now she can play EVOLVE
@corvid probably.. I only put the minimum to setup require.js outside the callback.
@Loktar won what?
@ziGi I think it's something to do with datatables. I'll post an example once JSFiddle comes up
@KendallFrey the TV
19:36
she won via a call in contest on a channel she watches
I dunno, to be quite honest this is the one thing that really annoys me about javascript
oh, not a real accomplishment, kthxbai
@corvid Don't you trash talk my javascript. :)
I just want import statements like from user.models import User
19:37
She won that beautiful tile flooring.
Your daughter now has a better TV than I do :O
TV is blocking the picture though
I have no TV
My TV is still better. 46", and Sharp brand, which I think is superior
@corvid you only need one require() to load you initial resources. All other files can just have a single define() at the top that specifies their dependencies. then it's almost like other languages.
19:38
because they had George Takei to advertise for them.
I have a umm 52" in my room
but its an RCA and its shit
but I just use it for game consoles mostly
yeah, just the setup is slightly annoying. Kinda wish it just came out of the box with that capability
Also, since you shoudl wrap your JS files in a self executing function anyway you aren't really doing any more 'work'.
I'd love to buy another TV, and move my current one into the bedroom, but I can't justify the purchase.
19:39
makes my room look impressive as hell though lol
imo anyway
I <3 my room
that's pretty nice
I think my cables rat nest looks even worse now though lol
Is that a dildo on the shelf?
I see that there N64. Mine stopped working :(
what league are you in sc2?
19:41
dang, nice setup
Ha, you have those nintendo vr shit goggles? Not jealous. Those things sucked
the Virtual boy is amazing
@narthur157 plastic
lol my highest was Diamond but that was loooong ago
Aw
Ah nice I was pretty happy about being diamond at the time
I see an NES, an SNES, an N64, what looks like the Sega, and a PS3?
oh man.. Ill type out the list..
19:43
Oh, I see a dreamcast as well
I can't make out what the black consoles are, the image is too low quality
nes, n64, vectrex, dreamcast, sega saturn, intellivision, colecovision, atari 7800, commodore 64, ps3, ps4, snes, 3do, amiga cd32
oh and the joystick thing at the top is c64 dtv.. and the virtual boy
sega genesis I think is in that pic with my sega cd too
not sure, they are on my shelf currently though
ah nope just the genesis is in that pic
Wow, I never owned hardly any of those. My first console was the Playstation, then we got the N64 much later, then we won an SNES at an auction, then my brother got a gamecube, then I got the 360, and I recently bought a WiiU
as a kid I didn't own most of them
hey gang is this valid html data-test-tes01="something", I mean can I use multyple hyphen in data declaration?
only the 7800, snes and n64
@IGRACH yea
19:45
If you own an actual pc you can have all of them for free :)
THX
Yeah, and you can even get the controllers to USB, but owning the console is cooler
@corvid phonegap looks liek it pckages apps for you. It very likely (hopefully) has built-in way to organize your code into files already. Require.js might not be needed.
Yeah can't deny that one fact
owning half of Steam is coolest
19:46
so just include them all in script tags?
@SufiDeveloper oh I do own a pc.. and like 33% of steam or so idk
Nintendo should remaster Super Mario 64. The Super Mario Galaxy shit was bad.
I don't know. I 'm just saying that if phonegap makes you bring your own library just to organize into files, then it sucks. I can't imaging that being the case, though.
@SufiDeveloper some of my pc game collection (even though in that pic I was showing off lego transformers)
Is there any way to do a post with a mix of serialized data and form data?
19:48
@Loktar Dang! You surely have a lot of experience D:
I merely have 3-4 games xD
@Shoe Yes, many. The simplest I can think of is just serialize into a form field
Well, that was since 2004
When I ended up my "career" as a hardcore player
@Loktar THX
yeah I have like 800 physical games for the PC, and a load of steam ones but I definitely am more proud of my physical collection
I <3 PC above everything, but consoles can be fun too :p
Right :P
yay!
@Loktar what did she win?
19 mins ago, by Loktar
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al lo davar
I meant what contest?
19:55
Best house flooring?
20 mins ago, by Loktar
she won via a call in contest on a channel she watches
HBO, obviously.
!!define HBO
@SufiDeveloper HBO (television) Home Box Office, a movie channel
that's cool. I should enter more contests
Best program ever
19:58
I don't win things, so I don't try. That way, I don't get depressed and off myself.
I win life.
... or something
@BenjaminGruenbaum she won the TV.. she got crazy lucky
I got really drunk in college and had my brother drive me to taco bell at 5am, and I got one of those box things, and I entered the code on a whim and won a PS Vita
Only contest I've ever won
19:59
they were having a call in contest, first caller wins
she tried every time (it was every 30 mins) and got through

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