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11:00 PM
no, it's the other way
 
@BartekBanachewicz no no no
 
jQuery allows CSS to work
 
@Miszy and I should test the size of the screen using what?
 
@BartekBanachewicz jQuery allows the Internet to work.
 
@Cicada3301 A ruler
 
11:00 PM
@Cicada3301 media query
@Cicada3301 media screen and (min-width: 800px) {}
 
@Miszy many websites (as twitter and facebook) have different pages for mobile and pc browsers
 
@Miszy in other news, I started my asm task of the opposite conversion
 
@Cicada3301 That's what you're about to achieve, mate.
 
int main() {
    std::default_random_engine generator;
    std::uniform_real_distribution<float> distribution {-10.0, 10.0};
 
What makes more sense to YOU, one page that adapts to the device.... Or a page for every device.
 
11:01 PM
much assembly.
 
@rlemon Is that a tricky question? My answer is: jQuery for every device.
 
@Miszy but why should I test that? Can't I just create another page and tell the iphone users that if something's not displaying as intended they should go on that page?
 
Fractle of bad design
 
@Cicada3301 "What makes more sense to YOU, one page that adapts to the device.... Or a page for every device." ?
 
@rlemon 1 page that adapts
 
11:03 PM
Have fun doing 3x the work.
 
I meant that... got screwed with the words
 
@Cicada3301 hint: Make one website and make it adapt to the user.
 
Tip: first make it look great on the smallest device... Then use media queries to make it scale up
 
^^^
 
This is called "mobile first design"
 
11:05 PM
^ ^ ^
 
@Cicada3301 listen to @rlemon, he's a wise guy ;)
 
@Miszy I noticed
 
I'm a wise-guy eh?
What you saying?
 
looking for media query right now (still have no idea after looking at some results if it is a type of language, a language or a part of a language)
 
;)
 
11:05 PM
@Cicada3301 So start with a website which looks good at eg. iPhone or some other small screen device.
 
Look at rlemon.ca CSS (site.CSS),
 
@Miszy I'd first start with a website that looks presentable on my device...
 
Very minimal media queries.
 
and I still haven't achieved that
 
@Cicada3301 No no no. Make it look good at the mobile.
 
11:07 PM
or I should make it text only without css or styles at all :P
that fits everywhere and would be easy to use
(jk)
 
@Cicada3301 Exactly ;)
@Cicada3301 But if you want to have a design then...
@Cicada3301 Mobile-first and media queries are the way to go.
 
@Cicada3301 Not the easiest, but probably the best.
 
@nderscore 82 is your new goal
 
in the website I found (w3) it suggest to shift between stylesheet for different kinds of medias...
 
11:09 PM
My first media query layout <3 fooscript.com
 
still didn't tell me the how to use them
 
@Cicada3301 I told you :)
 
I kinda used a tutorial, but it's different than what taught me lol
 
@Cicada3301 Put everything in a single .css file for now.
@Cicada3301 and below you styles for the mobile put this:
 
ok...
wait! I still didn't even understand how the media thing works
 
11:11 PM
@media screen and (min-width: 400px) {
// here goes styles for bigger screens
}
@Cicada3301 eg:
color: red;

@media screen and (min-width: 400px) {
    color: green;
}

@media screen and (min-width: 800px) {
    color: blue;
}
 
user1596138
My only free form of legal advice basically said "holy shit you're screwed"
 
@RUJordan lol I own jabbascript.com
 
ok... so... for every screen whom width is more than 400px set the color to green, for every one that has width more than 800px set the color to blue?
 
quite jealous I didn't think of that xD
 
@Cicada3301 That's a simple example. Don't change font colour, but you get the idea, do you?
 
11:13 PM
I wanna write a new to js compiler and base the language of hutteneesse or however the hell it is spelt.
The language of the hutt
 
@Miszy yes... I may be able to read it... but not to write it
 
@Cicada3301 Start with the mobile website now, we'll move on from there.
 
@Miszy ok... lemme just read how... if you don't want to explain me how it works
 
@Cicada3301 No, just make current website look good on small screen.
 
Trying to figure out how 25 + 25 + 172 === 223
 
11:15 PM
@rlemon You should call it jaba
 
@Shmiddty what? ;)
 
@Shmiddty that is becouse it is the same type I think... use 2 equals
@Miszy k
 
@Jhawins, care to elaborate?
 
!!> 25 + 25 + 172
 
@rlemon 222
 
11:16 PM
@Cicada3301 rule of thumb: never use ==, always use === unless you know exactly what you're doing.
 
@rlemon oh.... cicada3301.bat has stopper working
 
@Miszy even then, for clarity 6 mo later ALWAYS use === (when ever possible)
 
51 mins ago, by Jhawins
Yeah she paid a $25 ticket that turned into $223 after fines. The first time they said this it was $25, but the fine for driving suspended was $172 and a $25 late fee. So she paid $223 and remembers the fuck out of it.
 
@rlemon True that :)
 
nothing worse than the 30 seconds sitting there looking at your own coding thinking "was I being clever, stupid, or both?"
 
11:17 PM
@rlemon But I hate such general rules. Every kind of quirk in JS can find some usecase.
 
user1596138
Now I'm being charged with a Class A Misdemeanor. 1 level under a felony.
 
@Miszy so now I should just build as if it was on mobile?
 
@Jhawins That isn't where I'm confused.
 
that's why I said never use it :P
 
user1596138
Then what is?
 
11:18 PM
@Cicada3301 Yes. What browser are you using?
 
25 + 25 + 172 === 223???
 
no media query stuff yet? chrome
 
user1596138
@Shmiddty And some change on each one...
 
How much, exactly?
 
@Cicada3301 In chrome you can have devtools and viewport splitted vertically like that: d.pr/i/9ZXO
 
11:19 PM
@Miszy it is like when you tell a child never to play with fire. EVER! really you are saying, "do not play with fire until you understand the fire and what it can do if you abuse it".
 
user1596138
@Shmiddty I'm not sure. $223 was just my most likely estimate.
 
without fire we would all be dead :P
 
user1596138
This has all happened so fast. I don't have all the papers yet.
 
@rlemon Yeah, that's good analogy.
 
@Miszy wait wait wait... how?
 
11:20 PM
I like fire...
 
@Jhawins Not cool man. You can't fuck with a man like that. Numbers mean something.
 
@Miszy well... I can bring it to another window...
 
@Cicada3301 You have this button somewhere: d.pr/i/TPiM (second from the right)
@Cicada3301 On Windows it might be completely different though
 
user1596138
@Shmiddty I'm dealing with up to a year of my life in jail, $5K and 2 years without a license. All because I did the right thing and they fucked it up. I'll lose my job, go bankrupt etc. . . so I'm not really worried about your OCD right now.
 
11:22 PM
on windows 8.1 chrome dev beta version might be even worse
 
^*2 for debugging
 
!!afk chasing trains
 
@RUJordan Hurry back, ok?
 
@Jhawins You did the right thing? Sounds like you just did what was required of you
 
@Shmiddty and yes, I wasn't aware of the context to your math problems so I thought it was some strange edge case you found while code golfing so I ran it
 
11:23 PM
accidentally left chat.... how do I post images?
 
Or, more accurately, that your mother bailed you out
 
@Cicada3301 upload button to the right
@Shmiddty she didn't want her baby to lose his virginity
 
huehuehue
 
@rlemon no upload button...
 
user1596138
@Shmiddty man... I'm about to lose my entire life at age 19 for something I didn't do wrong.. I'm glad you guys think it's funny..
 
11:24 PM
@Miszy that makes me pop up that screen on another page
 
get more rep.
 
@Jhawins You did do something wrong
 
but before that, imgur.com then just post the link.
 
user1596138
@Shmiddty I repaid her...
 
@Cicada3301 Click and hold, a menu will fade down.
 
user1596138
11:25 PM
@Shmiddty Please tell me what the fuck I did wrong then
 
tadaaa
now works...
 
@Jhawins Drove with an expired license without wearing a seatbelt?
 
@Cicada3301 Cool. Now you can resize devtools so that viewport has exatly 320px
 
@Miszy my page doesn't look so bad at 320px... maybe the <p> should be alligned...
 
@Jhawins did your mother give you the look and tell you I'm very disappointed in you Josiah (points finger and wags)
 
user1596138
11:26 PM
@Shmiddty No. That's not what happened. At all. Please re-read. I was suspended for not paying a ticket. I got that ticket for not wearing a seat belt. I paid that ticket twice now.
 
@Cicada3301 Actually it does. There should not be a sidebar.
 
@Miszy okeee... lemme fix that
 
@Jhawins I don't believe you. Where's your proof?
 
there
@Miszy done
 
I feel I should do some programming, but I don't know what...
 
user1596138
11:28 PM
@Shmiddty What the fuck is wrong with you.
 
@rlemon create a cut the horn of the unicorn minigame
 
@Jhawins I need some teeth pulled, and I have some digestive issues.
 
@Cicada3301 I don't think this looks right d.pr/i/sqNo
 
@Cicada3301 that sentence very sense little made it you see
 
@Miszy I told you... <p> should be alligned... want me to fix?
@rlemon :D
 
user1596138
11:29 PM
@Shmiddty Sounds a lot better than going to jail.
 
Yes.
 
@Miszy lemme try and fix that then
I should simply add 2 more rows...
or is there a simpler solution?
 
user1596138
I have 2 eye witnesses willing to testify that I paid this ticket. That's all I got. We paid cash and it was 10 months ago, I've moved twice since then and have no idea where my receipt is.
 
@Cicada3301 Yes, remove the rows.
 
@Jhawins Why are you leaving me!?
 
11:31 PM
@Miszy remove? wait whaaa?
 
Stop flagging messages, seriously.
What the heck is going on here?
 
so no one else flags you and so you can just calm down in peace
 
@Miszy as of... you'd like them all to be displayed one under the other?
 
@Cicada3301 Yes. Do not add more css. Remove some of it ;)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum tl;dr he got fined for driving or something... @Shmiddty was trolling him like usual and he just got a bit off the handle
I may have egged it on, but I was just trying to humor him :P
 
11:33 PM
@Miszy I thought the problem was with some ocd... ok... if you ask me to remove code... I don't think you'll ever ask me that again
 
@Cicada3301 I think I will many times.
 
user1596138
@rlemon I'm going to jail for something I didn't do and he thinks it's funny. Imagine yourself spending the next year in jail for something you already paid for. If you can't understand my frustration then you should google "empathy"
 
@Jhawins You saw that whore again, didn't you!?
 
@Miszy done
 
@Jhawins dude.
 
11:35 PM
@Jhawins hey man, I wasn't really paying attention. no need to get angry with me. That situation sounds like it does suck pretty bad man but get a good lawyer and if the paper work is there then you'll be fine.
 
@Cicada3301 Remove flex: 6 (?) and position: relative (?). Any reason to use these?
 
user1596138
problem is the paper work clearly isn't there :/
 
@Miszy shouldn't I keep a backup to use for pcs, so that I don't have to write it all again later?
 
@Jhawins why would you got to jail for the ticket?
 
well then get a REALLY good lawyer
 
11:35 PM
Also, pay credit card when you pay again.
 
you live in america, $$ makes everything okay
 
@Miszy yes.. when they were on the same level... not now
 
user1596138
 
user1596138
I'm "out on bond" now.
 
I jest to make you feel better, but the lawyer part is my real suggestion.
a really good lawyer will run you top dollar, but will likely get you off without actual jail time
 
11:36 PM
@Miszy k
 
assuming it is just a driving infringement and you didn't rob or kill someone
 
Better Call Saul
 
You could go to jail for not paying a ticket in the states o_O?
 
in Russia they just shoot you in your car, or at least that is what Reddit has me to believe.
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum No it's for driving while suspended for said ticket that I've paid twice. I didn't know I was suspended. I've not gotten a single notice.
 
11:37 PM
@rlemon nonono, you got it all mixed up. The car shoots you
 
user1596138
With a prior for the exact same thing.
 
@Jhawins :S
 
user1596138
They're charging me with the same severity of a DUI charge. A drunk driver is seeing the same trouble I am..
 
@Miszy stack overflow doesn't go well with 320px or does it check the screen size at the loading of the window? anyway...
 
11:38 PM
@Jhawins again, plead ignorance to the suspension (if you never got a notice, you CAN have them prove they sent it to you)
and get a good lawyer to make it all go smooth
 
Seriously though, if you want to fight this, lawyer up.
 
the big ticket here is getting on the phone and getting someone who specializes in this stuff willing to represent you.
 
You're a bit of a hothead, it'd help to have solid legal advice.
 
if you are seriously looking at jail time, i'm sure you can figure out ways to come up with the cash to pay him. they usually take payment plans as well.
 
user1596138
Lawyers cost money. To put it this way... If a lawyer costs me $4K I still need to come up with $3.9K
 
11:40 PM
> they usually take payment plans as well.
 
user1596138
It's my only option. I'm calling in the morning...
 
user1596138
I just can;t believe it. Even if I win I can't sue the state for legal fees can I?
 
user1596138
This is going to set me back big time. Like, $40% of my yearly earnings big time.
 
close friend of mine went to jail for beating up some crack dealer at a party. They never charged him but he spent 39 days in prison anyways (illegal) - so the guy they hired got him off without charges ($5k) but then they sued the city for locking him up for more than the alloted time without charges and they won 350K
but that is just a side story
 
user1596138
I guess as long as I keep my job and stay out of jail I'll be happy...
 
11:43 PM
the crack dealer in question told the police that my friend beat him up to keep him quiet. apparently he was due in court the following week to testify against someone else. told the cops my friend beat him up to shut him up. really everyone just wanted him to leave the party because he was trying to sell people crack.
 
oh god... I think it's going to snow soon here
 
@Cicada3301 where in Canada are you
 
@Jhawins So you're saying you make $9750 annually?
@rlemon It's snowing here too.
 
@rlemon turin... in 'sunny' italy
 
user1596138
@rlemon your buddy got to beat the shit out of a low life and made $350K in 39 days.... If only my situation could turn out like that
 
user1596138
11:44 PM
@Miszy Umm... The $4K thing above was completely bogus. It'll likely cost me much much more.
 
@Cicada3301 my bad, I snooped someones profile earlier and noticed Canada - thought it was you
 
@rlemon :P
 
user1596138
For the lawyer that's been suggested to me by a number of locals for this situation anyway...
 
@Jhawins he wasn't in holding.. he was in medium security
he didn't have fun.
@SomeKittens hahaha nono
 
user1596138
11:45 PM
Yeah that would suck.
 
we did get into trouble, but all before I was 16 so I only got arrested then taken home
 
@Miszy the day after tomorrow is your first chat anniversary!
 
drunk tank a few times but that was just a pissed off cop
 
@Cicada3301 Cool :D
 
what kinda cop arrests you for being drunk in public when you are walking from the bar to the bus stop so you can arrive home safe.
 
11:47 PM
@rlemon italian cops would arrest you in a bar for drinking and noticing your smell bad if they need money
not that they usually need money... but once A friend of mine got fined 120€ for not bringing with him his 1,50€ bus ticket
 
well then there was the time a fight broke out outside the bar and the bar had a patio.. I am standing in the parking lot watching everything go down (had moved with the rest of the crowd) but was still holding my beer when the cops showed up.. yea they don't like that too much when they are already having to deal with a bunch of assholes
 
@Cicada3301 That's kind of usual thing, isn't it?
 
@Miszy really?
 
That's not just Italy
 
@Cicada3301 Absolutely. You don't get to ride for free.
 
11:49 PM
ok... but it used to be about 20€ 2 years ago
 
in Canada if you get on a buss, and you have no ticket or money, the buss driver tells you to get off the buss.
 
XD
wise men
 
the biggest 'scam' we've had is when the first real good consumer laser printers came on the market and people started printing their own buss tickets.
 
@rlemon In Poland if they catch you without a ticket they fine you about 100 * the ticket price.
 
then they had to change the tickets.
 
11:50 PM
here the driver doesn't check them... you just enter and put the ticket in a cage, which marks your ticket. then once in a while comes somebody to check if you have a marked ticket which was marked less than 70 mins before the hour...
 
How does this have eleven upvotes?
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Q: WebRTC for realtime scaling

HarryI'm looking for a cheapo solution to realtime scaling for many users in 1 channel. I'm using sockjs but scaling is pretty annoying when talking about really large numbers. I'm thinking about using webrtc to decrease cost with p2p. Instead of the server connecting to all users it would connect t...

 
@Miszy we collect when you get on, before the buss starts moving
 
@rlemon Ik, the only country doing that in europe I think is england...
 
@SomeKittens It's a good question. I mean: Not in terms of stackoverflow, but generally. ;P
 
Yeah, I like the question, but it's too general/opinion based for SO
That'd be a great one for Programmers
 
11:53 PM
distributed peer-to-peer snapchat-web ???
 
!!define buss
 
sounds like a wonderful new way to spread porn!
 
@SomeKittens bus (automotive) A motor vehicle for transporting large numbers of people along roads.
@SomeKittens buss (archaic) A kiss.
 
@rlemon ^^
 
11:54 PM
IQ of 135, boohyah
 
really?
 
Absolutely useless when it comes to important things
 
mines higher than that
well, it was in HS
 
I've never had a proper IQ test
 
At least it was in 3rd grade (last time I was tested)
 
11:54 PM
@SomeKittens 135 in which scale?
 
i've had a lot of beer since then....
 
@Miszy I dunno.
 
@SomeKittens So that's a useless information.
 
I tested online a few months ago... the max was 130... and I got 130...
 
when I was in grade 11 according to mensa canada I was a genius
 
11:55 PM
so it was not a proper test
 
@rlemon So it's safe to say you know your EyBC's?
 
@Miszy IQ in general is
 
but you know how it goes, women, booze, gnu compilers.... life just goes to hell.
 
@SomeKittens That's not true.
@rlemon So you're Mensa Canada member?
 
was
or am?
does it expire?
 
11:56 PM
@rlemon Oh, cool, I'm in Mensa Poland & Mensa International
 
I haven't payed anything or done anything in~10 years
but I suppose I can call myself a member!
 
oh... so... you have to pay to be clever? that's interesting
 
@rlemon Yeah, but you don't have to take the test again AFAIR, you can just join now ;)
@Cicada3301 Usually you pay for things. Welcome to the real world.
 
@Cicada3301 they prefer to call them Donations
I'm pretty sure that is just a tax thing.
 
"Requisite Donation"
 
11:58 PM
LOL
 
!!s/donations/Doritos/i
 
@SomeKittens @Cicada3301 they prefer to call them Doritos (source)
 
@Cicada3301 But you're not paying for being clever, you're paying for being in the association.
 
user1596138
@rlemon My co-worker got arrested in Michigan and spent 3 days in jail for not having her photo ID on her. That was it. That's a jailable offense until your court date.
 
11:58 PM
exactly... but whoever is at a certain point of cleverness should just get there...
 
being out of state without ID?
 
that right there is indiscrimination to who doesn't have money to spend
 
user1596138
@rlemon Nope. Existing on public property without ID.
 
damn. I am pretty sure I can go anywhere in Canada without ID (don't quote me)
 
user1596138
In Indiana you don't have to have it on you unless you're driving. But in our neighboring states you can get into deep shit without it.
 
user1596138
11:59 PM
I don't have mine. The officer physically took my drivers license.
 

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