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6:00 PM
And do you reply "I know, read between the lines."?
 
No, I reply "Understandable, have a great day."
(not really)
 
Choose one: [ ] Freedom of speech on the internet with possibility for abuse, [ ] Politically correct filter bubbles filled with group think
 
user1596138
Freeeeeeedom
 
You're not allowed to vote you almost blew up the site
 
I choose: [X] People really like getting offended because it makes them seem sensitive and morally superior
 
6:01 PM
Group think! Group think!
Everybody!
 
Cop: "Well, I'll have to give you a seatbelt ticket"
Person: "But I have my seatbelt on"
Cop: "A speeding ticket is real expensive... but fortunately you only have a seatbelt violation"
Person: "But.. I have my seatbelt on"
 
@ndugger wow I'm offended
 
user1596138
If not for the for-profit aspect yea we could just have freedom. Let users walk away all they want if they don't wanna be a part of the community.
 
user1596138
In a random free forum that's how it would be.
 
user1596138
But SE needs to make money :)
 
6:02 PM
^^^^ A story a cop I knew was telling about trying to help someone and them not getting it.
 
Hi offended, I'm roberto lemon
 
Just make SO chat users mine bitcoin and give them absolute freedom
 
I have a poem about seat belt laws.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Buckle your seat belt,
or we'll hurt you.

~ Your friendly neighborhood road pirates
 
@Luggage So the driver was speeding, but the cop gave them a seatbelt ticket out of leniency?
 
@Allenph that's 6 seconds of my life I'll never get back
 
user1596138
6:03 PM
It's just too bad none of us are offended by anything and don't get anything out of this lol
 
@BoltClock attempted to it seems
 
@BoltClock yes
 
user2620028
@BoltClock seemingly tried to lol
 
Not as bad as the 10 minutes I won't get back from @rlemon and his stupid story @Vap0r.
 
@Jhawins I could offend quite a few people here
 
6:04 PM
Count yourself among the blessed.
 
user1596138
Not unintentionally
 
@Allenph I always do. But rlemon has pretty good stories about corns
 
user1596138
Rather... Unknowingly lol
 
@Jhawins lol
 
@Vap0r About corns?
Are they amaizeing?
Are they full of corny puns?
 
6:05 PM
@Allenph he works for a corn cobbery. He inserts the cob in his posterior and the colonels that come out become what we know as candy corn
 
Did you just say colonels instead of kernels?
What's his work called? CornHub?
 
kernels are the core of a computer's operating system
so yes I said colonel
 
Ok that's easily 2 minutes of my life you owe me
 
do you accept paypal
 
6:08 PM
I can't believe there was such a perfect image.
 
I just cancelled my paypal I found out the government tracks it
 
@Vap0r Where can I send your $.0000002?
 
user2620028
square
 
@Allenph We are the perfect image. Genesis 1:27: God created us in his perfect image
@Allenph I only accept bitcoin or chicken trades
 
.0000002% of a chicken then.
 
6:10 PM
This conversation sucks I'm going back to work
 
Man I really want to make a joke but this room is being watched.
 
Tim Cook is always watching
 
I'm gonna go talk to chat bot
 
and @cmorelli of course
 
@Vap0r Maybe perfect image is what he calls his cauldron
 
6:11 PM
you can tell by the avatar
those eyes are held open
dang I feel bad for pinging them now, they don't even have the rep to talk :/
 
@Cereal if you can create reality but need a cauldron to make humans you aren't all that powerful
 
Maybe it's a really big cauldron
reality soup
 
Stephen Hawking wrote about that, said to check the microwave radiation on the edge of the soup bowl to see if there are possibly other soup bowls
Pretty interesting stuff, really
 
See
Cauldron
 
FF still doesn't support break-word!
that's the TIL
 
6:13 PM
time to move to edge
 
I use lynx.
 
I use an Atari Lynx
 
is lynx even supported by the supported browser table
 
with 8 player support!! wut
@KevinB you could add it in
oh wait.. nm maybe you can't now
 
lol
the beta dropdown thing redirects you when you open the dropdown
oh, it's a hover, it just didn't open immediately for me
 
6:19 PM
this apt is quite luxurious actually
who's up for a twitch tour?
 
crickets
I am actually, link
 
installing twitch app on new phone...
 
Is there a good way to get a script to run in a separate thread so that it doesnt lock up the browser? I tried just running it async, and it stopped the main from running too
 
service workers
or whatever the term is
 
@towc Remember to put on some pants this time.
 
6:22 PM
Never heard of them, time to investigate
 
web worker, to be more accurate
 
You should be able to just use asnyc though?
 
async is still single-threaded
 
@Trasiva what's that? Plants? Sure
 
well, not if it's a really long compute heavy for loop
 
6:23 PM
so cpu-bound work blocks all cpu-bound work
 
Ah
That makes sense
 
Im trying to render a fairly large graph, and it just freezes everything while it loads
 
oh god
 
That does look pretty nice
Where do you find the money for that
 
6:28 PM
@Cereal You'll have to meet him on his corner with $25 to find out.
 
company apartment, shared by 5 people
 
ah
Really though, clean your dishes. full sinks are gross
 
aaaand it's dead
@Cereal 'twas like that when I came in
 
Oh
 
@Luggage not quite shared. They just occasionally chime in
 
6:34 PM
and leave shit in your sink
 
the apt is actually owned by the owner of the company I'm now kind of officially working for
but he's pretty much always out of town, so he lets the employees enjoy it
 
What if he comes back?
 
the employers knew I was looking for a place to stay, so they offered me to stay here
 
Do you have to share the bed, or sleep on the couch?
 
@Loktar he agreed to this
the owner's contract for the apt is only until end of july anyway
 
6:35 PM
ahh ok
 
which is good for my nomadic tendencies
 
haha
 
code for "homeless"
 
honestly, I'm so confused about how I ended up in a semi-luxurious apt
with a decent job
 
you're not alone there
 
6:36 PM
Me too
I'll give it a day, maybe 2
 
I think we're all a little lost here.
 
Next you're going to tell us they're paying you for the work
 
@Cereal hah, that would be funny
 
it'll all come to you later, during the shoot
 
6:39 PM
also, looks like my sister got a job too apparently
 
you have a sister?
 
@SterlingArcher settle down there romeo
 
suddenly I don't care
 
We all know Sterling struggles with any form of relationship.
 
6:40 PM
lmao jk
 
He's better at shooting himself in the foot than most Elmer Fudd.
 
@SterlingArcher are you dissing on my sister?
 
oh man the temptation to !!s
 
s/d/p/
sorry
 
something something welcoming environment
 
6:41 PM
Yeaaa, let's reel that in
@ndugger Maybe make that go the way of the dodo before someone gets involved.
 
The real question is how towc ended up how he is when his family is clearly successful
 
@Trasiva hey in my defense I've done 100% of the breaking up
 
@Trasiva no
@towc how did your sister seemingly turn out so well adjusted and you turned out to be you?
 
@Cereal I'm successful in my own way
 
You're working for free
 
6:43 PM
so money/reward is a metric of success now?
 
@SterlingArcher Yea, but you manage to find great girls and somehow end up disinterested.
 
I mean, it is
 
Yes
 
but not the one I stand by
 
@towc that was intended to be a joke, but I realize it was incredibly insensitive and I do apologize to you and your sister.
 
6:43 PM
of course it is
 
@SterlingArcher nah, I gigigled
 
@towc You mean like being able to financially support yourself in a meaningful way and not being at the mercy of others in every aspect of your life? Yes.
 
> gigigled
 
if you'd said you'd be interested, then I might have been offended
 
then I shall stay silent... since I'm a married man
 
6:44 PM
@Trasiva you're saying that by having money, you don't depend on other people?
I think that by having money, you depend on other people
 
I'm putting that in my suicide note
 
@Trasiva that seems more like a "them" problem
 
you couldn't do what you thought was morally best, for example, if you wanted to keep your career and money
 
@SterlingArcher Possibly, but to be fair, you get bored really easily.
@towc ...that's the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Congratulations.
 
wat
 
6:45 PM
glad to be of service
 
what are you actually saying
 
but really, what would your argument be against that?
 
@towc Maybe in an alternate universe where the term "having money" means "not having money"
 
^ lol
exactly
 
you can't be moral, while keeping your career and money?
 
6:46 PM
by having money generally people depend on you
 
say your company does something you heavily disagree with, in terms of treating other employees or deceiving clients
 
@Trasiva god I really do lol
 
@towc You get another job
 
Argument? By having a source of steady income, I'm able to live in a dwelling of my choosing, and how I want. I also can purchase any and all things that I need or desire without worrying if it'll all be taken away. On top of which, morally, I can still make decisions that don't risk my career or income, but ultimately if I have to put my morals on the line, I'm out and I'll find another job.
 
the company, or someone at the company
 
6:47 PM
@towc ah well that's not really an argument of having money, that's an argument of having a revenue stream
 
is it a company policy? or just a few bad actors
 
@Cereal if you left immediately, you'd be probably breaching a contract
 
@towc not usually?
 
No?
 
i mean, you decided to join that company at some point
 
6:47 PM
Unless you're in the military lol
 
The fuck kind of contracts are you signing?
 
but I can leave any job I want at any time
 
Work isn't a prison lol
 
I have left with a 1 hour notice before even
 
don't most contracts say "you need a 2 week notice to leave the job"?
 
6:47 PM
#feelsgoodman
 
@Loktar Supposedly they're making that easier to break as well.
 
and if the employer fires you immediately, he still has to pay you the 2 weeks?
 
there are some work places that have significant penalties like that, but that isn't common in our industry
 
depends on country and even state/region
 
@towc not in the US, or at least anywhere I've lived
 
6:48 PM
contracts for an apartment are similar, for example
 
@Loktar Mostly you have two weeks notice or so
 
3 months notice before leaving
 
In Europe, and even more in India
 
@copy as a courtesy here in the US
 
I don't like that, because it means I'll have to pay if I want to move around
 
6:48 PM
but it's not a hard rule at all
 
so I just stay away from apartment contracts
 
@towc You can't pay for anything right now!
 
@Loktar In your contract here
 
i mean... what's the alternative to an apartment contract?
mooching off someone else?
 
I would go crazy having to put in 3 months notice
 
6:49 PM
Also, have you ever heard of subletting?
 
@KevinB living in a hackerspace, at a friend's place, at your company's place...
 
By day 3 of my 2 weeks notice I was already checked out
 
yeah, so mooching off someone else, lol
 
@Trasiva but then you need to find someone you trust and all
 
(which is what i'm doing currently, to be fair)
 
6:50 PM
@KevinB while providing service
here, I'll be keeping the place cleanish and maintained
 
@KevinB It's all good, you pay me back with...other...means
 
@towc ...not usually? Usually you have the new tenant sign a contract agreeing to carry out the rest of your lease in your place. The responsibility is off you entirely.
 
for example, by emptying the sink, and bringing the trash out, which is what people who come here clearly don't do
 
@towc A live-in maid?
 
@Trasiva do the landlords have a reason to put effort into that transition?
 
6:51 PM
How are you almost 20 and yet still completely clueless.
 
i mean... you get what you pay for in that situation
 
special effort
 
@towc YES, because it's easier to have a willing tenant than an unwilling one.
 
at any point you can be pushed out
 
my understanding is that subletting means you're still the one renting the apartment, but you're also renting it to someone else
 
6:51 PM
@SterlingArcher This is why we fought England
 
where as if you had a paid 6 month contract... you're guaranteed that for 6 months.
 
@Loktar LOL
 
You don't own me, rubymine >:(
 
that's ruby? or just the editor, with js in it?
 
you can negotiate for shorter contracts, at least here, if you know the right people
 
6:52 PM
@towc No, that's javascript
 
Cereal, won't that be an infinite loop of swapping back and forth?
 
@KevinB the last apartment I actually rented, I got the contract down to 6 months, while they wanted 1yr
 
@Luggage You can pass a function to define when it should update
I just didn't get there before getting annoyed by the highlighting
 
anyway, first day of work tomorrow
to an actual company
with actual offices
as an employee
 
You mean volunteering
 
6:54 PM
in a week i hit 10 years here
 
Since they're not paying you
 
to an actual team
@Cereal that was a joke. They're paying me
 
I don't believe you
 
I know it's hard to tell
 
man I wish I could do a room ping
 
6:55 PM
why
 
Did anyone arrange any betting? Like, time to first random rant, time to first friendly fire, time to first murder, time to burning down the employer?
 
actually, I don't have a contract yet
 
@KevinB someone was talking about star wars EP 1 racer
just a few days ago
and it came out on gog yesterday
 
Working without signing acontract is a fantastic idea
 
I just need to search the logs lol
 
6:55 PM
@Zirak let's do it
 
@Zirak You should set up a book.
 
@Cereal will get it at the end of the month, it was my choice
 
oh it was @Jhawins
 
we both wanted to have one tomorrow, and they had it ready
but I decided I should be doing some stuff before that
 
My girlfriend started a new job on monday and she practically tore up the contract when she saw it didn't include a job decription lol
 
6:56 PM
So what you're saying is, you're fucking yourself better than they could fuck you. nice.
 
What's the point of a contract if it doesn't tell you what you're doing
 
@Loktar omfg
 
racer was the first game I put on my retropi
 
@Loktar you better not ping everyone just for that
 
@Zirak !! ikr
 
6:57 PM
Because we listen to you, lol.
 
lol this is one of the reasons I use an old pc haha
 
@Loktar decent game; Star Wars: Episode I: Battle for Naboo was better
 
but now one reason less
@ndugger I own it as well
 
wha, i mean, a job description for what i do wouldn't be that useful imo
 
I'm fairly confident Loktar owns pretty much the 90's in CD and ROM format.
 
6:58 PM
@ndugger but let me one up you dude
 
I think I've put more hours into Battle for Naboo than I have for any other game since
 
@KevinB One of the stipulations of the contract was that she'd be working 2 different jobs for the first 6 months, then switch to the other one
 
The Gungan Frontier
 
i'd expect me to be expected to do what is needed to get the job done, even if that means burning cd's for a trade show
 
The contract made no such distinction
 
6:59 PM
I could see people in this chat liking that even
 
@Trasiva will report back when he adopts me
 
but even more so Sim Life
Sim Life is so awesome.. if it were remade and put on steam it would sell so well
 
@Zirak I thought the paperwork was already in for that?
 

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