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12:00 AM
@rlemon lol are you serious
 
Man, I haven't been in this chat for years, and I still remember rlemon
 
best comment so far
 
what the fuck zuck
 
> nahh, that's just his wallet.
 
12:01 AM
@JasonStackhouse he is unforgettable
 
@KendallFrey he's short and doesn't like it. there are a few posts out about it now
 
@rlemon the cushion doesn't exactly improve his situation
 
well it's funny to mock, but his feel are flat.
I can imagine how low he'd be in that chair otherwise.
it wouldn't make it easier.
 
Is he really THAT short? I remember him being like just a bit under the average
 
1.7m is short
not short short.. but short.
 
12:03 AM
Oh well, I thought he was like 178
 
I think if he were really short he could own it. but he's only a little short. so he feels awkward about it.
@JasonStackhouse 171
now I'm totally just spinning this up. idk how he feels. I just think it's funny.
 
I could do without half the posts on reddit being zuckerberg insults
Feel like I'm back in middleschool
Listening to people shit on the nerds
 
:D
 
@ShrekOverflow what chat room(honestly) do you have in mind if not this one? Whether it is slack or freenode,etc... Slack is a paid service(ignoring invites) and freenode has no chat history which makes it rather difficult to use.
 
I did watch a lot of it. in fairness he is pretty funny because he looks like he's always sad and/or trying not to fart.
 
12:06 AM
holy shit, Microsoft is releasing a bunch of the best Xbox games for the Xbone
 
Hey look, my childhood all in one blog post
 
Mercenaries, Battlefront 1 & 2, Republic Commando...
 
@William Platform wise, Slack probably the best.
Now people wise you'll need more than just the RO or the dorm room bunch here
 
hey now, I could teach an entire new group about fish keeping and botany
 
not saying we are not good
I am saying if we masquarade as the js chat we'd better be working full time for that traffic
 
12:10 AM
we're better than good, we're adequate
 
 
@ShrekOverflow why?
 
the js chat, the standard only place where any newbie can come and ask
 
so?
 
working for traffic? wat?
 
12:11 AM
why is that our responsibility to make it a quality chat?
let me rephrase.
 
πŸ˜›
true that
 
@rlemon we have a broader social responsibility
but we don't sell your data
 
@ssube to handle that traffic*, vamps whatever.
 
it's our responsibility to make sure it is of a certain quality standard. but not to push the leading content.
 
@ShrekOverflow again what room or whatever they are called on slack? Slack's desktop application literally is the biggest piece of **** I have ever used.
 
12:12 AM
we are (as ROs) here to make sure things are controlled.
 
It takes more ram the visual studio and android studio for me
 
Slack's desktop application is a web app that ships with its own copy of Google Chrome
 
not to push the topic
 
Its both a web app and desktop app
 
s/desktop/electron/
 
12:13 AM
^ bingo
 
most of my team uses the weechat plugin, or used the IRC portal
github.com/yue/wey looks interesting
 
Our 500 strong team uses slack and well even with groups & threads convos are impossibly hard to manage / keep track of
 
IRC is shutdown for slack I thought...ah...yes...used
 
github.com/nlopes/slack is also pretty good
I just use my work MBP as a dedicated Slack machine :P
 
@ssube I wish to do that, but my other tower needs lot of work
 
12:16 AM
@rlemon We'll see about that
 
πŸ’ͺ
 
@HatterisMad I got to drive on a well-used track for the first time, and holy fuck that cushion is scary
 
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@KendallFrey irl?
 
lol no
 
user2620028
o
 
12:26 AM
I'd be very very dead
 
user2620028
XD
 
user2620028
i mean, if you ever make it to a dirt track with sprintcars, go walk onto the track after the race
 
why
I wonder how well the auto-generated track usage is
I should have been using that
 
user2620028
if it lays down rubber, it is liable to try and pull your shoes off your feet it is so sticky, and if it built up a big cushion then it is really fun to walk up the incline and inspect how tall the cushion is and how close to the wall people were driving
 
still, holy hell that's a completely different beast
 
user2620028
12:28 AM
whenever i used to drive i would hop the cushion and stick the right rear tire on the wall and use the concrete for traction on the sidewall of the tire
 
did you have your balls removed to save weight as well
:P
 
user2620028
fuck no lol
 
user2620028
we had one of the heaviest cars out there
 
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it was a much thicker frame tubing so it didnt snap in half when we wrecked
 
user2620028
we were consistently 200-300 pounds heavier than the other cars
 
user2620028
12:30 AM
who would use titanium rods, and carbon fiber wings and washers and stuff like that
 
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titanium valve train components
 
I genuinely think that a sprint car is one of the cars I least want to drive ever
 
user2620028
why not
 
cause I don't want to die
 
I'm not allowed to drive
 
12:31 AM
I'd sooner take an F1 car, easily
 
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@KendallFrey honestly, i doubt you would get it going fast enough to seriously injure yourself
 
I don't even want to injure myself lightly
 
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F1 cars are the same problem to beginners though, you cant drive them slow
 
No one took the bait.
 
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@monners why cant you drive
 
12:32 AM
@HatterisMad Moreso than a sprint car I'd think
 
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@KendallFrey definitely
 
Also they feel safer
 
user2620028
wait what
 
Don't have a license
 
user2620028
the f1 car feels safer???
 
12:33 AM
@HatterisMad court order. he molested a car
 
user2620028
we have a full containment seat and full containment cockpit
 
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and their heads are open to the air lol
 
no they're not
 
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@Luggage banana in your tailpipe?
 
and have you seen those cockpits
 
12:33 AM
@Luggage I was acquitted of criminal charges, lost in civil court though
 
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@KendallFrey are you eluding to the angle of the body that prevents them from easily getting hit in the head?
 
You rarely hear of a driver breaking anything in a crash, but you've mentioned numerous times about breaking stuff I think
 
heh, I actually don't have a license because I never bothered to get one. Had my learners license then moved to a city with decent public transport.
 
@HatterisMad No, this year they have a protective cage
 
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@KendallFrey oh... yeah but.... they use safety equipment...
 
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12:34 AM
and we typically ignore it lol
 
yeah that's the problem
 
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@KendallFrey dude i just looked up that rollbar, that is going to prevent so many injuries
 
when you crash a sprint car you take it ass first into a wall and idk flip it a couple times?
 
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its not anywhere near perfect.... but it definitely won't hurt
 
@HatterisMad I'm not sure it will
 
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12:35 AM
a couple times if you are unlucky.... 10 times or more if you are lucky
 
I can only think of one crash where it would have helped
and that's the one that made them want to put it in
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey a rollbar isn't to keep things in the car, its to keep other things out
 
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these are open wheel cars
 
most of the time the car stays upright and nothing comes near the head
 
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that have a tendency to stack up on each other when they wreck :/
 
12:36 AM
@HatterisMad I know, but there really isn't much to keep out
 
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wheels
 
@HatterisMad so I'm just wiring a mechanical timer to my headlights because I couldn't figure out the relay for some reason.
Maybe later but this works for now.
 
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and exhaust
 
@HatterisMad no, those are pretty well secured already
 
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@William doh lol
 
12:37 AM
@HatterisMad actually not really
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey most deaths in a sprint car are from someones wheel getting into the cockpit while racing
 
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and they are even more exposed than we are
 
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im taking my experience and applying it to them
 
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maybe it doesn't happen to them as much but i am looking at the potential and it scares me lol
 
@HatterisMad At some point after Senna's death they mandated wheel tethers so they basically can't come detached
 
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12:38 AM
@KendallFrey yeah but they don't even have to become detached to get into the cockpit with you
 
how else?
 
user2620028
can accidentally drive up underneath another car and have a pileup and end up with a wheel to the face
 
that's pretty unlikely as well
 
user2620028
these are open wheel cars, their wheels come into contact and they hop off the ground and could pile up
 
but then again most head-injury crashes are unlikely
 
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12:39 AM
we had an amazing driver die a few years back from a wheel to the head
 
user2620028
 
usually when F1 cars crash they stay on the ground
Occasionally they flip, but almost never end up on top of each other
 
user2620028
they also don't race anywhere near as often as we do
 
@HatterisMad was it the second car that finished it?
 
user2620028
i wonder what the frequency would be if they ran hundreds of races a weekend over several countries
 
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12:41 AM
@KendallFrey second cars front wheel went through the hole in the top of the roll cage and hit him directly in the top of the head
 
yep ouch
 
How many spectators have died to wheels at those races? More than drivers?
 
I still sorta think F1 should have taken the indycar approach
 
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@monners in sprint car racing?
 
looks nicer, and protects from small debris a la Massa's injury
 
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12:43 AM
@KendallFrey link?
 
this?
spring went straight though his visor
 
did he die, or bounce back?
 
bounced back like a boss
 
user2620028
what the fuck hit him
 
@Luggage ><
 
12:45 AM
@HatterisMad spring that fell off the car in front
 
user2620028
holy fuck
 
user2620028
@kendall and no i was talking about the link to the indycar styled roll cage
 
user2620028
and they just an old imca cage?
 
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12:46 AM
just the loop?
 
user2620028
i thought they already had that
 
the windshield
 
that's fake. I can see the NASA employee pushing it
 
It was one of the options being tossed around by F1 last year
along with a completely closed cockpit
 
user2620028
yeah i definitely prefer the roll cage
 
12:47 AM
which I think would have been the coolest (not necessarily best)
 
user2620028
i wouldn't trust the windshield to hold up to a high impact collision
 
@HatterisMad Yeah
 
full cockpit with air conditioning and lane keep assist. What has racing become?
 
@Luggage Don't forget the parallel parking guides
 
12:48 AM
@Luggage You should see how many things they have to control during a race
 
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@monners we have ~25ft tall chain link fences to try and keep the tires and cars in when we flip, unfortunately often enough the cars and wheels will escape the track over the fence and make their way into the stands
 
@KendallFrey XM radio
 
@HatterisMad So you actually race these things?
 
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@monners my dad has almost cleared the fence in multiple wrecks, and we have both sent tires into the stands. so i would have to say it is very common
 
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12:49 AM
@monners yes... and i actually just remembered that one of my dads friends died throwing a couple kids out of the way whenever one of the cars jumped the fence
 
How much does it cost when you wreck a car? Do you have to pay for it, or is the team sponsored?
 
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@KendallFrey i remember seeing this, i didn't know they were testing it for auto racing though
 
user2620028
@monners there is almost no sponsorship money in this particular form of auto racing. almost every car is privately owned and driven
 
user2620028
@monners a rolling car sans engine is typically $5-$10k depending on how fancy you are getting with lightening materials
 
user2620028
an engine can be $10k-60k depending on your needs
 
12:52 AM
I guess it's not exactly anything like F1 lol
those cars are ridiculously expensive
 
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if you are smart enough of an owner/driver to take care of your engine it will last you 10 nights of racing before needing to be rebuilt again for another $2k or so
 
and they just go and smash them to bits on a semi-weekly basis
 
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@KendallFrey yeah this is poor man racing really
 
also did you hear Porsche is modding an LMP1 car to beat F1 track records?
 
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@KendallFrey although i have raced against my fair share of TRD drivers
 
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12:54 AM
@KendallFrey jesus...
 
@HatterisMad heh, I used to work with a few people who part-owned chumpcars
that's about the cheapest racing I've heard of
 
street racing
 
> And the best part? Porsche isn't done. It's going to do a demo lap on the Nürburgring Nordshliefe next month. We don't know what Porsche has planned, but perhaps it has a certain 6:11.13 lap set in 1983 in its sights.
oh boy
 
if I remember the rules right, they were supposed to spend $5k not counting safety gear
anything you could pull out of the car and sell counted towards that balance
 
ohh, so the same as 24 hours of lemons
 
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12:56 AM
@ssube like pony stock?
 
only those were $500
 
old porsches and e30s were very popular, with the latter getting a temporary ban at one point
 
user2620028
yeah sounds like lemons rules to me
 
also, the bribes.
 
pretty sure champcar.org is the organization they did
 
12:57 AM
I witnessed a judge get bribed with booze at a lemons inspection
he took it, as is tradition
 
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@ssube pony stock is a dirt racing thing where people are allowed to take a 4cyl street car and remove all the glass from it and then stick a roll cage in it and then go race
 
@ssube btw, got iRacing set up yet?
 
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@ssube so you could get one of those annoying things for a few grand
 
ohh, in chumpcar they don't decorate the cars like lemons.
 
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@ssube that actually kind of sounds like fun
 
12:58 AM
which I could take or leave
 
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@Luggage it also looks like they try to win lol
 
so they don't push start the competition with their cars when they stall?
 
user2620028
god lemons is so much fun
 
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i have accidentally push started a stalled sprint car before during a race
 
@HatterisMad so they said. The price limit also pushes you to older, easier-to-work-on cars
 
1:00 AM
Slavery was bad yes, but all the slaves in America were enslaved by blacks and white Americans freed them. That's the first reality people need to wrap their heads around. https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/983127619758632963
 
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fucker stalled in front of me and i hit him hard enough to restart his car :(
 
and usually it would be a group of friends who owned the car and took turns driving
 
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@HatterisMad how do you stall a sprint car?
 
@KendallFrey define set up. Haven't played it yet
 
@Loktar How many games do you own now?
 
1:01 AM
not sure, not counting steam?
 
@ssube ok, just meant turned some practice laps and have the controls as desired
 
total
 
I might get it running tonight, don't have much else to do
 
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@KendallFrey he locked the brakes up to avoid a wreck in front of him, and locking the brakes up spins the car sideways really hard. So he managed to rotate the car -100 degrees or so and stalled as the momentum was then pushing backwards on the tires and he had his foot off the gas
 
@KendallFrey is he trolling?
 
1:02 AM
I can only give a ballpark, probably 4k or so? but I don't feel like digital should really count tbh
which would be closer to 1800 or so for physical
 
@HatterisMad oh yep that'd do it
 
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@KendallFrey and then i essentially did the exact same thing, locked my brakes up and spun and hit him side to side, and it spun him back forwards and had enough momentum to start his engine again lmfao
 
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but i kept my foot on the gas and completed the spin and kept going
 
boogity boogity boogity
 
1:03 AM
@HatterisMad are you talking real life ?
@Loktar oh wow
 
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@ShrekOverflow hmm yeah
 
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stories from my racin days
 
yeah last time I updated my spreadsheet I was at 1400 but it's really out of date lol
 
damn, me jelly
 
meh I mean all it is, is paper and plastic
I'm starting to consider selling off stuff
just keeping my PC collection but selling a large part of the rest idk
it just sits around mostly
it would be smarter to have the money in retirement
want to get potentially disappointed in your spending habits, install Enhanced Steam suite and go to your account page
 
1:09 AM
@Loktar you are gonna retire in what 30 years ?
 
tobi.js.org has been decided as the javascript chat room quick link everyone!
 
@ShrekOverflow psh at the rate I'm saving probably 80 years
 
@Loktar lol
I wanna retire at 40 πŸ˜›
so far that doesn't seem like it xD
 
I am an idiot when it comes to retirement
I've saved like 3k
 
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1:10 AM
now I'm just betting on my wife selling houses and putting that all away lol
 
@Loktar you bought a house, about 400k already πŸ˜›
 
haha yeah but where would I live?!
 
@HatterisMad D: D: D:
 
@Loktar sell the house when you retire, or put it on hefty rent live in place cheaper
 
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@KendallFrey you see why im worried about the roll cage? lol
 
1:11 AM
one of my friend in US did that owns 5 houses in Huston(spell check needed) texas he is your age and is practically retired πŸ˜›
 
@ShrekOverflow yeah, we need our stupid HOA to expire, right now we can't actually rent it which sucks
 
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@KendallFrey i have marks on the top of my helmet from hitting concrete when i wrecked
 
Huston wow
 
home owners association
 
@HatterisMad as i was saying that very rarely happen in F1 anymore
 
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1:12 AM
@KendallFrey i also broke my hands on the concrete when i wrecked lol
 
will never live anywhere that has an HOA again heh.
 
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@Loktar holy yeah that is aids
 
If I get the H1B, I am hopping on a 3 hour long call with all of you to understand this stuff
 
yeah, I mean luckily ours isn't too bad, dues are $60 a year, and overall it's not super restrictive, but not being able to rent out our house pisses me off
 
1:12 AM
to me welive.com sounded perfect
 
the neighborhood I lived in as a kid had a HOA and rentals, that was fun
 
@ShrekOverflow when will you know?
 
not only could you tell which houses were owned and which were rented (none of them were nice), but the rentals were constantly getting evicted for violating the terms
 
@ssube hah yeah that would be rough
 
they couldn't join the association, not being owners, but still had to follow the rules
 
1:15 AM
Yeah the 1 house in our neighborhood that was renteed was trash
 
@Loktar July - Oct.
 
it was a shithole anyway, we moved out just before the beheadings started :D
 
@ShrekOverflow good luck man I really hope you get it!
 
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@ssube LOL wat?
 
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1:15 AM
doesn't breathe the throttle and then missed the line by like a foot and is launched out of the place lol
 
the application went perfectly
oh btw folks I got my degree, the spelling & grammar on that makes me wonder if the USCIS will consider me scammy lol
3
 
is there a way to view the entire history of git commits regardless of resets and rebases?
 
@Loktar a few years after we moved, from the poor edge of the city (the shitty, if you will) to the country, there was a whole turf war between MS-13 and a local group
needless to say, the locals lost (their heads)
@JBallin resets and rebases rewrite history, so no
 
ah that sucks man, sounds like my old place in Detroit.. which no longer exists. No beheadings but lots of murders
 
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@KendallFrey driver is too fucking fat to fit out of the car from the side so he forces them to flip the car back over so he can get out the top lmfao
 
1:18 AM
Google is selling really strong on Firebase
 
this place still exists, it might have even gotten nicer since: google.com/maps/place/Vienna+Ct,+Frederick,+MD+21702
looks like they replaced the old abandoned mall with a Home Despot
 
can't remember my exact address... but it was really close to that
 
the Toys R Us across the highway also had a porn store and Dunkin right next to each other
 
@ssube drug dealers can't park well
 
guess where the local cop hung out when he wasn't responding to domestics? :D
 
1:19 AM
@ssube are these condos?
 
nah, old fashion row houses
similar in size and layout, I'm not entirely sure the difference tbh
 
thanks @ssube
 
So I have been sick for past 7 ish days
got super scared thanks to doctor webmd and google checkup
only to realize it's just acidity, and now I am rekt cause Indian food is the cause.
 
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@kendall and first responder to that guys wreck was another driver. guy managed to stop his car and get out of the track and to the wrecked car before the emergency crew did lol
 
morn
 
1:24 AM
@ShrekOverflow hah
you can't even get away from it either eh?
 
Aging sucks
@Loktar 😬 unfortunately not
 
Toys R US RIP
 
I can start cooking but half my american ingredients are not available here
 
@William :(
 
I honestly don't ever remember buying anything but 1 video game there
 
1:25 AM
pasta?
 
I guess I can just go vegan and lose some weight like @jAndy did, πŸ˜› (jandy recepies please)
 
We used to go about once a month with the kids
as they got older our visits became less and less
Growing up I didn't get to go often, but when I did it was fucking awesome
I got my Virtual Boy new on clearance there for $20 along with a bunch of games for $5
 
@Luggage half (so yes I can get pasta)
 
that was a fucking awesome day
 
So I have an android app idea but you guys opinion
 
1:26 AM
my Grandma was there luckily and bought them for me
 
@William sure, fire.
 
iphone displays this for notification options. Unfortunately most apps don't implement notification badges for android
 
@William Android has that but most vendors fuck with it
then fuck with it even more
 
@ShrekOverflow no I have done my research
 
only to fuck with it again
until its unfuckable also unusable
 
1:28 AM
How do you display a notification badge but not display notifications? answer you can't!!
 
Android has a single notification pipeline
you can do whatever you want with it
i'd use it if you could realistically do it for all android stuff
but it'd be better implemented at OS level
now if you are planning to fork android open source add this
 
anyways
Notification badges have a de facto standard using shortcutbadge app on github
But that doesn't work if you have notifications disabled
So my plan is to create a nova launcher competitor that displays notification badges for the handful of apps that support it and allows you to display notification badges for apps that don't buy counting the number of notifications and auto dismissing them to essentially duplicate the iphone behavior
I would totally use the app if it existed...
Sigh...I miss parts of Windows Phone/Windows Mobile.
So my question I guess becomes would displaying notification dots and notification badges in different colors make sense?
 
Even VR knows no escape from poorly compressed JPEGs
 
2:25 AM
ohhi
 
2:58 AM
what is it called when you display three checkboxes but only allow one to be selected from the three?
 
@Loktar YAY!!!
@hilli_micha we need to break the laws of physics to surpass a lot of limitations
with current h/w
or we need fucking satellites
 
radio
 
@William nah radio won't solve it
you need way too many repeaters
 
yes it does work
 
@KendallFrey are low orbit internet satellites going to reduce latency from US -> IN ?
 
3:06 AM
for what I need maybe I wasn't celar
 
Oh that radio, yes
 
4:01 AM
@MadaraUchiha HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG, dat Scion skin
 
 
 
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5:32 AM
Like Harry Potter references? Watch this talk. Don’t like Harry Potter references? Watch this talk. 👏🏻 @phenomnominal β€” Fantastic ASTs and where to find them. #jsconfau18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKCoRKzRqN4&index=6&list=PL37ZVnwpeshH2dgOfKBH1UOgOT198ZzZy&t=0s
Oh look, it me.
 
5:46 AM
@Loktar neat. But it will take a while for the industry to adopt it. If they would.
You cannot imagine how stubborn the developers behind some programming platforms (*cough* Java or C#) are to implement a solid library for handling new image formats. I had to rely on open source tools from others that spent their spare time in writing such plugins.
 

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