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20:00
@Meredith What's funny about 3.5 minutes of sped up runescape?
He's just crashing everyone
user7480455
ok no sure what happen
best email subject: "don't open this email."
@007 yeah you just stopped talking was really odd.
@007 "not for the uninitiated"
user7480455
20:01
lol
6 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
@007 Please read the fucking documentation before begging here.
user7480455
docs to what Ken?
@KevinB Don't open it, then watch when they get angry that you didn't open it.
To whatever it is you're asking about what it does
Literally just read anything about javascript
20:03
@007 You're being dumb again. Stop.
user7480455
I was not begging I ask a question that should not get a kick?
HAMMERTIME!
@007 No, that question definitely deserved a kick
user7480455
yeah I have... I would not ask if I understood it.. but I get it
@007 Just like on Stack Overflow itself, we expect you to search before asking here. Your "Is .html the same as .val" is something you easily could have found online.
20:04
They like to kick people
user7480455
it's cool Ill keep searching the answer is out there for sure :)
You'd understand it if you read the documentation
user7480455
yeah guys I don;t ask before I search
@Meredith It's better than not kicking people who are disruptive
user7480455
but it's okay because I can't prove that so
20:05
You're being disruptive though
user7480455
yeah
user7480455
sorry
user7480455
I will own that.. I just follow along with the joking around and stuff but I need to be more careful
user7480455
thanks guys
I'd love to actually see kick stats, I bet ours are quite low
especially with how active the room is
I mean, maybe 10 kicks a week, if that?
20:08
Frankly, imo we're too soft.
Like marshmallows.
Hmmmm
def should hit the gym more
ALERT: DO NOT open any Google Docs sharing links for a while. https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/3/15534768/google-docs-phishing-attack-share-this-document-with-you-spam
Too many people look for an excuse to kick people
@Meredith Are you trying to give us one?
@KendallFrey nice try MS shill Hanselman
20:09
Case in point lol
> But use Microsoft Works links!
@Loktar wut
Do NOT open any unsolicited doc share emails right now - a new phishing attack is currently making it's way across several platforms.
Nice try Apple shill
@Meredith We're not exactly looking for excuses.
> But use Apple Docs instead!
lol thats crazy though
20:11
@Trasiva they make these things called winter tires. :P
@KendallFrey Hansleman is like the MS Dev spokesman it feels like, so I was making a joke
a joke, like Microsoft Works
It doesn't exactly work when the link is in the tweet
Why would I click a link telling me don't open any shared links
what if that's masked
nice try.
@Loktar It's the verge, not anything like google docs
I try never to go there tbh
20:13
@rlemon I just figured you guys paid to have the NHL players pull your cars around in between games.
it's up there with Polygon
this is the closest I could make from their online 'build a car' thingy.
Trying to make a murdered out mazda?
I wanted an SUV, wife wanted a small car. she won this round. next car I get to pick.
SUVs are for soccer moms
20:14
some suv's ARE small cars
e.g. Forester
I was looking at Highlanders and Equinox
Vans are for soccer moms
You aren't old enough for cars that bland
Vans and SUVs
20:15
Vans are for pedofiles, no?
eh idk SUVs don't seem really soccer momish
@Luggage I don't wanna pull a trailer, and hauling lumber in a car sucks.
He means minivans
Cross overs do though
SUVs are like the epitome of soccer mom
20:15
no.. minivans are
No one buys minivans anymore
soccer moms do
Soccer moms moved to SUVs like 10 years ago
lol. in your little world maybe.
20:16
Loktar doesn't live on coasts
lol
@rlemon Get a Suzuki Swift Sport. Small car: win for the wife, but it's a heck of a lot of fun :D
everywhere else they drive minivans.
@Cerbrus already signed for this one. delivery in *upto two weeks.
> lives in an isolated village in an arctic wasteland
although I hope sooner. mines dead.
20:16
> little world
I have to back up the moving to SUV thing.
Something like that :D
@rlemon Oh sweet :D
@rlemon duuude now you have to wait
hopefully its sooner
@rlemon It takes 2 weeks for your cars to deliver. Wow!
20:17
can't stand waiting for stuff I've bought to arrive
I may have to rent a car if I can't figure out why my alternator is not working
We can definitely help
yeah was going to ask what happened to your current car, heh might have been able to work that rental in with the new car
@HatterisMad is your guy for car wiring :D
@rlemon Have you tried turning it off and on again?
20:18
> I'll sign, give me a rental until the new one comes
user2620028
wut
@KendallFrey THAT'S THE PROBLEM!
user2620028
what did i do
@rlemon Are you sure it's plugged in?
it turns off fine. doesn't always turn back on.
20:18
you are gonna help rlemon fix his car
alternator doesn't charge the battery while driving.
user2620028
ahh
user2620028
i mean i don't actually take altenators apart and fix them :/
user2620028
if you have already diagnosed that it is the alternator
i'm having a hard time wrapping my head around something, maybe someone can help me
user2620028
20:19
but if you think it might be wiring leading to or from it
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user2620028
you can jump the field wire from the alternator
I'm just going to keep a charger in my trunk and hope it keeps on only being that problem.
user2620028
and see if that makes it charge the battery
this car has taken a nose dive in the past year. everything failed at once.
20:20
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ah, sorry about that
user2620028
what makes you think its the alt? it could be the battery not taking a charge
user2620028
it could be a parasitic drain on the battery when the car is off
@HatterisMad got a guy at work to check out the battery - he says all the cells are fine.
it could be a slow drain while the cars off... sure. but I had alt problems before
user2620028
@rlemon charge the battery fully and park it overnight and come back
user2620028
20:22
see if the battery has drained since the time you charged it
in the cars prime it would barely keep the battery charged. if I ran a seat heater in the winter it wouldn't keep up
user2620028
oh like you just have a complete shit alt
yea
and it's taking a turn for the worse it seems
user2620028
personally
user2620028
i would just test it to confirm first
20:23
my entire electrical system is fucked. the ac randomly turns on and doesn't turn off till you hit the radio.
@HatterisMad car is going to the junkers in two weeks. I just want it to last for two weeks.
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user2620028
oh
user2620028
well still, up to you how much diagnosis and fixing you want to do
user2620028
probably only need to invest a couple hours
I've got a heavy duty charger hooked up now.
should be full in 3 hours or so
user2620028
20:24
you know how to test the current load on the battery?
My dad's trying to get rid of his old car, I told him to keep it and turn it into an RC
buzzfeed being a little generous with the word genius
user2620028
i would unplug the alt when the car is off and see if the load changes on the battery
@KendallFrey a full size RC would be fucking awesome
20:24
Don't poach your eggs in wine
user2620028
easy way to see if its draining your battery from a bad diode or something
@HatterisMad boss made a nifty little charger / tester thingy you hook up.
They did it on top gear, I bet I could replicate it
shit I need to watch that
user2620028
@rlemon simple multimeter should have the capability too
20:25
course I don't know anything about car software
user2620028
they did it a lot on mythbusters too
I love RC's but a full size one would be damned amazing
@Loktar you like rc planes?
imagine the terror riding in one
@rlemon yea
user2620028
think they just make a server control the steering and a servo control the throttle cable and whatnot
20:25
only things I'm not into are RC boats
user2620028
@Loktar trains? cause those bore the shit out of me
eh no, I don't consider those RC really though
idk how people can be so into those
@Loktar Another thing for you to look up is roborace, they're developing autonomous racecars, and the devbot has a seat for a test "driver" (rider)
I mean making the scenery would be cool i guess
20:26
@Loktar I might have linked you this before.. this channel does a shitload of rc planes and recently drones
@KendallFrey hah awesome will check it out
their old content is a bunch of neat little DIY planes and then some monsters.
yeah I've seen some of their stuff, like the KFC bucket plane
haven't seen this
that's on peters channel. he worked for flighttest for a while
when he did he made them the big monster planes.
he's insane.
holy shit... that second one is so large
20:28
what impressed me was (aside from learning how to fly, and the remote cost) how cheap and easy it is to DIY some RC planes.
even then, the 'good' entry level remotes are only like $99
If I am not doing isomorphic programming with react, then the only thing I'm probably using Node for is NPM, correct?
@KendallFrey LOL dude
this email I just got
> Hello,

Do not open an email from containing a google Drive link. I received this from a client, clicked on it, and my email was compromised. It's resolved now.

Best Regards,
@Vap0r or your backend
and build process
@Luggage well he wouldn't be for his backend right?
just builds and modules
that's all we use it for, we have a .net backend... yay.
@Luggage so what is webpack doing? Is it pretty much a convenient way of running Node tasks?
20:32
i don't remember what hi backend was
My backend is .NET (C#/Web API)
webpack is part of the 'build process' i mentioned
I thought you knew what webpack did by now
check out the webpack landing page
@Luggage I thought I did too, but having to write documentation for the next guy has a way of making sure you have a nice explanation of what you're doing.
bleh I need to move to webpack 2, we're on 1 still.
20:33
anywho, node is just used for dependencies (npm) and building (webpack/babel) for you.
and i think visual studio comes with node these days, so..
Ok sounds good. And yeah it does.
had to look at what language that was because if it was JS you were on some next level shit and I was going to quit my job.
Hate when a site asks you for your state and you press F to select florida but it selects the federated states of micronesia instead
Like put that shit at the bottom
No one lives in micronesia
@Loktar hahaha
@Loktar well, there's some language that compiles to JS similar to that :P
20:37
another entitled Floridian
> federated states of micronesia
lol
"omg, i have to type two characters" :)
No it's a drop down
eh I feel the same way when the US isn't on the top you know?
you can type in a dropdown
unless you are still on IE9
20:38
Typing FL doesn't help
what i have, and what i want to transform it to - jsbin.com/salodogema/edit?js
Not that hard to press F then down arrow a few times
tbf, there are 100k people living in Micronesia
which is.. pretty low
fuck'em
can i use reduce for that somehow? the end of the day and my brain isn't functioning
20:40
so.. what's the F word today?
@FlorianMargaine how many live in Macronesia?
Fahrvergnügen
Driving pleasure?
@nickfinity Yeah reduce is the tool you want
It's gonna be an ugly operation no matter what though
@Meredith ok, well, at least i don't feel so bad now
20:42
meh, two maps and onew reduce through .concat
@KendallFrey real good oatmeal comic, appreciate it!
Yeah actually you only need the reduce to flatten it at the end
@Loktar You see the new bill overtime bill the House just passed?
haven't read into it yet, but saw it
// @nickfinity
y = x.map(item => item.otherStuff.map(subItem => ({ id: item.id, status: subItem.status }))).reduce((acc, next) => acc.concat(next));
20:46
@Trasiva no actually
is that the one for workers making 60k a year?
haven't been paid for overtime in ~8 years though
!!afk for a few mins
@Loktar It'll give employers the ability to give individuals paid time off instead of time and a half for overtime.
@Luggage awesome, thanks
hmm. i like that idea.
20:47
I don't know what to be more impressed with. the capabilities of that driver? or that pipe?
@Trasiva Does it give the employees the option to keep time and a half?
@KendallFrey Nope, employer discretion.
Which is part of where I have beef with it.
The other part is, how do employers plan to track that?
20:48
@luggage i owe you a drink
lol
Plus, there's still the whole getting that PTO approved.
i like the idea, but, i don't keep track of my hours.
so won't affect me anyway
@Trasiva Yeah this whole "more freedom" idea isn't always as advertised
I need to go read the bill in depth though.
Because three different news agencies have conflicting information.
20:50
just search for it on youtube
> Traditionally, before a man can consider marriage, he needed to have experience in farming, fishing, and boat construction. He also had to be able to build his own house. When he had these skills he would inform his parents that he was ready for marriage.
and read the comments
hehe, yes
none of you guys would last a day in micronesian culture
Meredith we'd be fucking wizards
20:51
@Meredith I've played plenty of Minecraft, thank you very much
i can make software to do ALL those things
@Meredith Excuse you? I grew up building farms, wiring houses, and built homes with habitat with humanity. I'd be the most eligible bachelor.
I can skin a rabbit
Sorry how many boats have you constructed?
20:52
Two
one floated
damn.
for a bit
@rlemon Jinx!
I have made 0 boat(s).
20:52
I wanna do a hollowed out canoe one day
I wanna do a solid gold canoe
I built one from aluminum sheeting and a shit ton of blackjack. The other was more of a canoe than a boat.
plywood and foam and the other was plywood and foam :D
Doesn't sound like a boat that would impress micronesians
first one couldn't take anyone weight. we forgot about that. second one just slowly sank because we didn't seal it worth a shit
user2620028
20:53
@Trasiva i did all of these unwillingly
user2620028
@Meredith are you the micronesians by chance?
@Meredith my smartphone would be the impressive part. not being dead after a month would be the long term
and would probably also impress them
I'll just 3d print one thanks
Legally I'm micronesian now
user2620028
@Meredith wait.... all you have to be able to do is build a house and a boat??? given what tools cause that sounds easy as shit
20:55
@Meredith why would anyone care about impressing people from some backwards culture like micronesians or muslims ?
& farming and fishing
Sorry are micronesians backwards?
user2620028
@Meredith pretty sure the world does that for you
I'm literally only now learning about their culture
building things from wood, farming, fish.. all things I've been good at and doing at hobbies for like a decade now.
@Meredith In those cultures, as long as the boat brings home the bacon so to speak, that's all that matters.
20:55
I just got elastic search working with my search box for my news website thought I'd show you guys :D puu.sh/vEDgh/75211a551a.gif
user2620028
depends on how advanced they have gotten with construction of tools
@Meredith yes.
user2620028
if you are making boats and a house with rocks.... thats going to suck
LOL
or are you one of those post-modern cultural relativists?
20:56
@HatterisMad Or just go buy a bunch of battery powered DeWalt tools.
the biggest thing for survival wouldn't be hunger or shelter imo. it would be out utter lack of resistance to the environment. If I didn't shit myself dead I'd probably be fine.
I don't know enough about micronesian culture to judge them. I jokingly referred to them as primitive earlier, but it was just that. A joke.
As a nanonesian all we had to do was have experience weeding, swimming, and making rafts. We also had to be able to make our own shack.
@lix cool
Yeah it's really quite amazing how fast it gets the data for 50k records
20:58
@rlemon No the biggest problem for long term survival is definitely food
@Luggage by what I am reading, they seem to be genuinely primitive
like I have around 2-3k trump records and it gets 100 of those super quick
Shelter is easy to come by especially in micronesia
@Meredith He's talking about the fact that he'd be moving to a whole new region, meaning there'd be illnesses and bacteria that his body hadn't built immunities too that'd likely make him severely ill.

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