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4:00 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum actually, there is: to give regular users a chance to bring up complaints.
I was going to propose/PR a change to the rules, but I think we should keep the 72 hour period.
 
I saw @KevinB using a private chat server.
 
he grabbed me by the tushy
 
No objection to ssube's objection.
 
It's not like we're in a hurry, so giving regular folks the chance to post something seems ok.
 
4:02 PM
how do i load data securely into js without someone being able to access the file that the data is being loaded from?
 
nothing in js is secure
don't fool yourself.
 
@ssube bring it up as an issue, we'll discuss it
 
ssube is just suggesting we stick to the letter of the rule and not bypass it with an unwritten "instant results" rule. I think the most fair way is to do that.
 
@rlemon is there anything in programming which is secure?
 
haskell
can't have security risks if no one runs your program
😃
 
4:04 PM
Anyone knows where @Cereal is btw?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum just looking at that
 
@jAndy E for one
 
last active < 1 mo ago in this room
more active in Ruby room
 
I'll rephrase: what's the most secure way?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum what is E?
 
4:05 PM
Nova Scotia, it looks like
 
@jAndy erights.org
 
@@Cereal
yo
 
While we're revisiting this, I wonder if @FlorianMargaine wants to join the ranks again.
 
I don't buy that "E" cannot get hacked, leaked, manipulated etc.
 
next month I'm nominating @BenFortune as well.
 
4:07 PM
He also did it to JS at a point
 
@rlemon Do I have to set different permissions on the file? Do I need to integrate PHP?
 
I don't have interwebs this morning
 
@Pigman168 you want to send data to a user and not expose the file the data came from?
 
Also, @BenFortune already has my vote in the bag
 
What's this now
 
4:08 PM
@rlemon Precisely
 
@Pigman168 so open the file, send the data
unless you expose the file it's not just 'available'
 
The use can still get to anything you send them, though
 
@KevinB basically rlemon nominated you for RO
 
RO = Really Obnoxious
 
@rlemon But people can look at the JS source code right?
 
4:09 PM
:)
 
@Pigman168 yes
 
Oh, that's unexpected
 
nothing on the client is protected (really) -- but you can just not expose the file on the server
open it -- grab data -- send the data only on the route
 
@rlemon Oh ok, I'm a noob in JS though so I'm not sure if I'm doing it right
It's all client side and I don't know how to change that
 
Send the user (or web browser) only what they can see. Never trust that they are giving you a valid ID or path.
 
4:11 PM
how do you 'open a file' on the client?
 
Do I need two scripts talking to each other?
 
you use fileReader and you want to send the data from filereader to ??
or ??
 
Does your web server expose the file?
 
it's all client side guys
 
@rlemon Thanks, haha
 
4:12 PM
"all client side"? You have no way to prevent them from seeing it.
 
Need to be more active IMO though
 
@Luggage Oh ok thank you
 
I can hardly see what's going on with this mobile connection, will check things out later
 
@Luggage I'm starting to think he's using fileReader and file input to open a file client side and wants to know if other clients can see his file that he's opened in his browser memory?
 
shrugs
 
4:14 PM
Not really, the file is on the server but other clients will be able to access the file too I think
 
What do you mean by "the file is on the server"?
 
The file with the data that I need to retrieve
 
I don't think you undestand what I mean by don't expose the file
are you using php and just exposing an entire directory?
 
hey guys I need to invoke a javascript function in an external javascripts and it triggers and error that there is not function
 
4:16 PM
@Zinov Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@rlemon Well I've done that before but I want to make a system that doesn't do that
 
so.. learn what routing is
 
And I have no idea how
Oh ok
 
when the user vists page.com/getdata you open the file on the server, get what you want from it, stream that data to the client
they don't access the file directly.
 
Americans are even dumber than I thought...
 
4:18 PM
Ohh
@rlemon So the file is in a different directory?
 
@Shmiddty ouch
also, yes.
 
@Shmiddty how comes
 
@ssube it think shows no effort but it's an interesting question
 
@user2314737 I don't disagree.
 
@ssube ok
 
4:21 PM
it can definitely be improved and easily be on-topic
 
@Luggage @rlemon Thanks for the help :)
 
I wish "needs improvement" was still a close-reason.
 
I have two files, 1.js and 2.js, from 1.js I am registering to the event ready and calling a function in 2.js, do you think the order of registering those scripts send me the error of is not a function when I invoke a function in 2.js?
 
@jAndy Trump is winning
 
s/winning/won/
 
4:23 PM
of course, they'd still be idiots if Hillary were winning
 
@Zinov how are they being loaded? <script> tags and setting global variables? If so, then order matters.
 
@Shmiddty savor it while it lasts
 
ohh, well, if you are using a 'ready' event, maybe not.
 
here in a few years you'll be sending us billions in aid
 
I knew the shit was going to hit the fan soon, but I didn't expect this
 
4:24 PM
I'm moving to Syria. :)
 
yes they are loaded as <script> tag inside my html
 
@Luggage oh dude, that would be awesome for like 2 hours
 
I'm moving to dank town
 
user1596138
We've been screwed since the primaries, there's nothing to complain about from last night lol
 
pretend to be in Mercenaries for a while, get a pickup and a few guns and drive around for a while
 
4:25 PM
I won't be hanging out with ssube. He doesn't know how to stay alive.
 
@Luggage
 
@ndugger *Canada
 
hey, my K/D in BF1 is almost 1.0
 
@Luggage the order is 1.js and the registering 2.js
 
@Luggage Dunno, so far he's on a streak
 
4:26 PM
I could probably survive in Syria for about 0.8 minutes or so
 
@Zinov yea.. order might not matter if you are using a 'ready' event. Are you having a problem?
 
the function ready inside ready is inside 1.js, and I am calling 2.js function
 
er
 
@Zirak this is true, no rockstar style combo breakers either
 
include 2 before 1
 
user1596138
4:27 PM
Yall know as white men with high salaries we are going to benefit from this lol. I mean we may not like the choice... But for us specifically, this will probably be nicer.
 
@ssube ∞ or gtfo
 
@Jhawins we were screwed before the primaries, look at who got knocked out then
 
actually when I am trying to call the function I am getting 500 error : select2() is not a function(…)
 
they weren't any better
 
select2 is the function
 
4:27 PM
500 error?
 
user1596138
@ssube Lmao right srsly, I can't say I'd be happy with any major candidate from any stage of the election
 
no sorry
 
if it's bad for the US, it's bad for "white men with high salaries". Also, I don't want gains if they are costing someone else.
 
user1596138
I'll just take more money in my pocket and wait for the next round.
 
the error is just trigger when I am trying to call the function, is not a 500
 
4:28 PM
Hello, just testing this chat extensions and so someone can tell me if Trump won or Clinton take him ahead?
 
@JugaliLakota Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@Jhawins Lol, I work for a small company. If anything, I'm probably going to hope for a job at a bigger place.
 
user1596138
@Luggage Neither do I, I want globalism and I want human kind to progress, not just America But that doesn't mean I can't take advantage of the benefits.
 
I find that statement self-contradictory.
 
$("select").click(function () {
Searchable(this);
});
function Searchable(elem) {
$(elem.id).select2();
}
 
4:29 PM
Holy shit
 
user1596138
@Luggage It isn't in any way. I don't get a choice but to reap the benefits
 
@Jhawins there's only so much "taking advantage of a shitty situation" you can do before you become a bad person too
 
select2() is part of the second js
 
user1596138
Also... This will likely be a time of lots of changes. Change means opportunity to get ahead if you see the opportunities first.
 
Still waiting for response, my timeout will be reached in few seconds :(
 
4:30 PM
take it too far and it turns into "just following orders"
@JugaliLakota it's bad
 
(stawman): "I'm against stealing, but hey, the door was unlocked."
 
user1596138
That makes no sense.
 
@Luggage this is why I don't waste time on silly morals
 
user1596138
I don't have to reach out and grab these benefits.. They're literally just a given
 
Man it sucks that the stock market is basically crashing today :(
 
4:31 PM
What i'm worried about is how this is going to affect the company i work for... considering we're one that used to do all of our manufacturing in the US, but no longer do. I'd love for us to be able to bring that back to local manufacturing, but i just don't see it happening, and if it gets more expensive to manufacture outside due to trump, that's not good for us.
 
@ssube While I learn tagging your name, what is bad @ssube
 
LOL J/J IT ISN'T.
 
I'm going to buy up a bunch of stock in Vagisil, the country needs something to eat for the next few years and the market is down.
 
user1596138
I can't accept or deny them. I will get them. It's not about being a follower, a bad person or stealing. It's about living in a system that affords me better luxuries regardless of what I do.
 
@KevinB yeah lets see what happens, it might initially be pricier and that will force people to bring jobs back here
 
user1596138
4:32 PM
Lol you guys make such nonsensical points in here.
 
really depends what happens with the trade deals.
 
@Loktar I was gonna say, it bounced back pretty well. All things considering.
 
Do you guys think Bernie still has a chance to win the nomination?
 
@Trasiva it's on a trampoline right now
 
user1596138
I just said "My life will inherently be better due to other Americans choices last night" and you said "You stupid follower, you're taking advantage, low morals lol. Doge"
 
4:33 PM
@Vap0r ?
 
I can't follow your comments. Good evening guys. My first chat experience here was acceptable. Bye
6
 
started high, jumped down, bounced back up, will drop again, etc, until it evens out at a low
 
LMAO @JugaliLakota
 
I didn't call you a stupid follower. I don't think you are bad, but you make it sound bad.
 
Yea, it'll even out at a moderate level though. Probably low, but it'll even out over the next few days.
 
4:33 PM
I'm glad we're acceptable
@Trasiva I think it will take months as the real implications start to set in and laws are proposed.
 
@rlemon sorry I keep having flashbacks to a better time, some 3 months ago.
 
it's going to sink for a while, which is a shame, cause I wanted to start investing
 
@Vap0r blame the DNC for screwing over Bernie
man he got a raw deal.
 
@ssube I don't think we're going to see the market really get unstable until around February or so.
 
@Loktar oh man do I ever.
 
4:34 PM
If it was Bernie vs Trump I think Bernie would have taken it
 
@Loktar and they managed to screw themselves in the process.
The one good thing we're getting is a major shakeup in both parties.
 
@ssube for sure
 
@Loktar I agree, but I thought Hillary was going to take it sooooo........
 
unfortunately I don't think Bernie has the youth in him to run in 2020
 
Very small consolation prize, but
 
4:35 PM
he's old af
and without money, he looks it
 
Yup
 
@rlemon same with Clinton, thank god.
 
@rlemon he's too idealistic, but that could have beaten Trump
 
@Loktar few more facelifts and she can look 55 again
 
I mean, too idealistic to run again, I think
 
4:35 PM
Yeah I think Bernie had a real shot against Trump
 
2 hours ago, by Vap0r
Guys, two days ago I was in here and made fun of everyone because I thought my statistics knowledge couldn't be wrong in regards to the election. Well, I have learned my lesson and I'm so, so, sorry.
^ @ssube a followup to the conversation the other day. Sorry, @Vap0r, not trying ot rub anything in, but ssube was arguing on my side, so..
If anything, that redeems you.
 
I don't see how anyone can take polls seriously again.
 
Honestly, if Hillary had managed to get Colin Powell as her VP we'd probably be looking at a Hillary win.
 
@Luggage lol fair enough I was hoping everyone was in here when I said it. It needed to be said. An apology was owed.
 
For at least the next 10 years or some huge shakeup
 
4:36 PM
@Loktar it would have been interesting. Clinton's only real public problem/scandal was the email stuff, which Bernie wouldn't have had.
 
@ssube and the foundation
 
@Loktar the polls I was following (538) called this.
 
that's the ongoing investigation
 
user1596138
@ssube Lol..
 
@ssube Don't forget that her VP choice was a shmuck no one'd really heard of too.
 
4:36 PM
all the stupid news sites were 90% Clinton, 538 was pessimistic and said <70% Clinton
turned out they were right
 
wikileaks didn't help her either, really exposed corruption
 
this is irritating. I, uh, accadentally toggled the menu bar in atom. now i can't make it stay visible
 
user1596138
I don't think anyone gave a shit about Wikileaks tbh
 
@ssube They said 71-72% clinton and now they're right?
lol
 
@Trasiva oh, she botched the thing thoroughly. Maybe the DNC will learn to field a decent candidate.
 
4:37 PM
@Jhawins plenty of people did
people were fired over them.
 
@Vap0r they were the only gives giving Trump any significant chance
 
user1596138
Only people that already supported Trump
 
turns out that pessimism was well placed
 
The head of the DNC had to step down
 
user1596138
I don't think it swayed votes
 
4:37 PM
@ssube fair enough
 
So.. now that the election is over, NOW is the time to go after the DNC and other mistakes for next time.
 
plenty happened due to wikileaks
 
@Jhawins not as much as anything else
 
wikileaks secured that bernie supporters were not swinging hillary
 
user1596138
I think the majority of the country wants a change agent and a business man. So that's what we got.
 
4:38 PM
How the fuck is Wells Fargo stock doing so well, lol.
 
user1596138
Maybe only a small majority... But that's how votes work
 
yeah now people are pissed about the popular vote vs the electoral college
 
@Trasiva they signed america up for a couple of accounts while they were distracted by the election results.
2
 
@Loktar as they were before.
 
@Loktar That never changes though.
 
4:38 PM
@Vap0r that was on fucking point
 
user1596138
@Loktar lol people don't understand
 
@Vap0r Holy shit, that was awesome.
 
user1596138
Didn't Bush win with less of the popular vote in 2000
 
yea
 
user1596138
Course that one took months to sort out haha
 
4:39 PM
@Jhawins like half the elections have been split
it's not really unusual at all
 
The implications of this will be felt for so long
Supreme court justices... control of congress and senate
pretty cray cray
 
So anyways... who's got the fallout shelter?
 
user1596138
@ssube Yet half of social media can't understand haha
 
@Shmiddty I sold mine when Hillary lost
I don't fear a war with Russia now
 
First black president, followed by the first orange president. And they say racism still exists.
 
4:40 PM
@Jhawins social media doesn't understand much
 
user1596138
I;m really glad we won't be race baiting from the white house for 4 more years tho..... Just sayin.
 
@Loktar until they actually meet
 
user1596138
@ssube Yeah, the voters. They really don't seem to understand much :(
 
lol
 
4:40 PM
@ssube you see the statement Putin released today?
 
Putin is wet.
 
jesus
that's going to be horrible
 
Hillary was pushing that war rhetoric so hard.
 
@Loktar I thought he was too occupied releasing Champagne
 
4:41 PM
no fly zone in Syria... Russia hacked all my jpegs
 
user1596138
Wait why would we want to band together with Russia
 
user1596138
Aren't we anti-globalism for the next term?
 
@Jhawins because screw america
 
We don't. I mean.. improved relations are always good..
 
@Jhawins why wouldn't we want strong ties with other nations?
rejecting globalism has nothing to do with alliances
 
4:42 PM
it's purely to sabotage any ties we had with the EU
 
user1596138
We need to define globalism apparently to have this conversation. Must be thinking of different contexts
 
@Luggage shhhh this is the commies we are talking about. They elected a crooked businessman turned politician who has shitty morals and corruption issues.
 
Poutin is actively helping any party against EU, whatever its ideology
 
user1596138
I don't mean like.... No borders go wherever you want eat whatever and be hippies lol
 
4:42 PM
@Vap0r so then we do too?
 
Being on peaceful terms with russia is a good thing. Doing it trump's way (not defending NATO members) isn't.
 
@Luggage well... if they pay that's fine
 
@ssube that's what I was getting at.
 
@ndugger the meme game is strong today tho i.imgur.com/DYPnpzT.png
 
iirc Poland recently paid up
 
4:43 PM
the election really did make america dank again
 
The trump memes are on fleek
 
I bet poland did.
 
it really bothers me that dank now applies to memes and they aren't even green
 
This was a win for pepe for sure
 
so now we demand protection money instead of wanting to protect our allies because.. they our allies
 
4:44 PM
@Luggage we demand what was in the original treaty
 
user1596138
Unity through Pepe
 
which... makes sense.
 
@Luggage the mafia did invent the combover
 
!!afk soup
 
Does you're gas company just provide it to you because they want you to be warm without the agreed compensation?
 
4:44 PM
@Loktar yea, it makes sense. But.. Ther is value in having those countries in our alliance that is greater than the cash.
 
The only value was a buffer against Russia and comunism
 
user1596138
@Luggage If you agree to pay me for my services and then stop.... Do I keep serving you?
 
it helps the EU more than the US.
 
remember america is bigger and richer. It's OUR power we are throwing around and those other countries just give us legitimacy. That is worth more than the money.
 
4:45 PM
@Luggage that's the same argument Russia makes as well :p
It's the US with bases all over the world throwing around power
 
yea. there is truth in it.
 
cc @rlemon @KendallFrey
 
yet... they are the aggressors?
 
@Trasiva all I'm thinking is a) south park is about to get real entertaining and b) if there is a flood of people moving to Canada my property value just increased
 
@rlemon The immigration page died last night, lol.
 
4:46 PM
I can't decide if I want to move to Canada or found Guzzolinetown.
 
yup
 
@ssube lmao
 
they are, yes. We aren't invading and annexing parts of other eastern european countries.
 
@Luggage should we?
 
No
 
4:46 PM
Do I want to spend the rest of my life in tire armor selling bullets and condoms and gasoline? Yes, I do, but at what cost?
 
There will be dank memerinos in guzzolinetown
 
!!afk soup
 
@Luggage Take a couple extra seconds to think about it. Are you sure???
 
@ssube 25 caps?
 
@ndugger no memes in my town
only srsbsns
 
4:47 PM
@Vap0r should be invade other countries? sometimes, but not annex.
 
@ssube Two men enters, one man leaves.
 
user1596138
Tbh I didn't know it beforehand but I think I'm happy about the result lol
 
user1596138
I mean I didn't know how to be happy either way... But at least things won't be the same now lol
 
user1596138
I'm in it for the change agent. And the big ole FU to the establishment haha
 
@Luggage should we invest in construction-based industry because of all the walls that are going to be built?
 
4:48 PM
I'm really hoping we make some changes but nothing too damaging (like repealing gay marriage or something), then get a decent congress in 2 years
 
... sorry, last stupid question.
 
@Vap0r no, you won't get your money back.
 
I hope Trump decorates the white house like his own place.
 
At least the US is already bankrupt so that's one less thing for Trump to do.
 
haha I am interested about the wall
 
4:49 PM
like Saddam's palace
 
user1596138
@ssube I don't think that's a concern
 
@Luggage still the white house, just with gold plating on everything
 
user1596138
I want to see what Obama says. He's a standup guy, he has to stand behind the 45th POTUS. But he's been talking shit all year baha
 
@Jhawins it is. The VP tried to pass a bill against it.
 
@ssube I'll form my own town next to yours, then. We'll be danker in every way
It will be like Minneapolis and St Paul all over again
you get to be St Paul
 
4:50 PM
@ndugger guzzolinetown and memetown
 
@ssube There will be well-groomed men rioting in the streets.
 
user1596138
@ssube It's a talking point, it's not a concern. We all know about Mike Pence (or I do, he was our most hated governor lol), hopefully he doesn't actually get to do anything.
 
it'll be like a violent Pride.
 
@Jhawins maybe where you are, but it's a pretty serious concern here.
 
user1596138
Also you'll basically have BLM of gays if you repeal marriage equality.
 
4:51 PM
well, trump offered Pence the jobs of "foreign affairs and domestic affairs"
 
Can we name some major things Biden has done?
 
@Loktar wears sunglasses
 
@Luggage so he kept sexual affairs?
 
That's about as much as Pence will get done.
 
user1596138
@ssube Uh, we all have gays get off your high horse. It's not a concern because it's not something anyone has promised to do or made clear they'd like to do.
 
user1596138
4:52 PM
^ Seriously anyway.
 
@Loktar wakes up almost every day and did a speech once
 
from a few days ago.
the man doesn't hate gays
 
user1596138
It was just a bashing point to sway votes. Like "If you vote for Hilary you killed your kids and sent them to war"... "If you vote for Trump you hate all the gays". Bunch of nonsense. speculation
 
I agree that I haven't heard too much from trump against gays.. that I recall.
but holding a flag doesn't mean shit
 
Sure, but we have to remember Trump was a democrat up until 10 or so years ago?
 
4:53 PM
Trump hasn't said much, his running mate has signed laws against them. It's a toss up.
 
a common far-right line is "I respect gay people.. they just shouldn't be allowed to get married"
 
"Hillary is our 45th president!!!" --Steve Harvey
 
we actually have Hillary on record saying she doesn't support it
 
user1596138
Trump is the kind of guy.. He wouldn't hold that flag if he were about to go on the attack haha
 
Trump is pretty moderate in conservative terms
 
4:53 PM
yea, hillary was against it and refused to admit it.
a true politician.
 
user1596138
@Loktar He seems to be all floppy... Which is nice tbh
 
@MadaraUchiha I deleted your last comment on the RFC by butterfingers, not sure how to restore it - soz
 
user1596138
Flopping parties anyway. He's not deadset and locked into one set of extreme ideas
 
@Jhawins yeah his consistent message about trade is what I'm really wondering about
he has been saying it since the 80s
the old Oprah tape... he says the same thing there lol
 
user1596138
He sort of takes what he wants from both... I think things will get a lot more genuine now that the election war is over.
 
4:54 PM
yeah for sure
his speech last night was actually really good imo
 
I must be hallucinating
 
@Jhawins he's been pretty consistent about being racist, if you consider that extreme
 
didn't gloat or anything
 
user1596138
Well times change. It's ok to have a different view today than you did in the 80s either way
 
people on the internet praising Trump?
 
4:55 PM
@ssube lmao.
 
user1596138
@ssube Lol butt hurt much? When are you going to say something that holds merit.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum All good, I've reposted
 
@KendallFrey pepe is the real winner of this
 
user1596138
You can bitch and moan all you want. You are problem #1 until you stfu and start to unify.
 
pepe is a hate symbol
 
user1596138
4:56 PM
Lol
 
@Jhawins You've just gona off the deep end.
 
@MadaraUchiha so tempting to reply to that with "repost"
 
don't lol me, it's true
 
pepe is a dank symbol
 
user1596138
@Luggage lol nah, I'm just being sensible. I didn't vote for Trump and I can sit here and be objective and live in the real world now that he's won.
 
4:57 PM
@Jhawins holds merit? He said racist things, there are quotes. Not sure what you're looking for past that.
 
Not your opinions on Trump. You are entitled to those, but the "you are buthurt, you make no sense, stfu".
 
@ssube like super predators?
What are these racist remarks?
 
@Loktar but regular predators are already invisible.
What makes them super?
 
@ssube ask the Clintons they coined the term not me
Something about killing Arnold idk
 
user1596138
@Luggage lol I have no sympathy for everyone that wants to be a cry baby today. If these people's candidate won they'd be the super snobs spitting in everyone's faces. You deserve to be torn down if you are a super snob or a cry baby today.
 
4:58 PM
super predators just have danker memes
 
yeah I'd be mad if Trump lost fo sho
 
#superdelegateskilledahnold
 
probably would just exit all social media for the week lol
 
@ndugger but why? normal predators don't have memes
 
user1596138
@Loktar But you wouldn't be in here continuing to spew the exact same points that lost you the election xD
 
4:59 PM
they're just invisible and weird-mouthed
 
nah, I might say it was rigged or something and then leave it at that
 
@Loktar I made one precise post with my dissapointment in the election. I had probably seven people unfriend me, lol.
 
user1596138
Right lol
 
I actually stayed pretty quiet this election in the chat
or tried to anyway
 
@ssube Everyone has memes; they live inside of us all, guiding us to be our true, danker selves
 
4:59 PM
not everyone even knew who I supported, @Wes was surprised to learn yesterday lol
 
I get into heated discussions with my friends about this, but we always leave still friends.
 

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