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8:00 PM
@KarmaDoe the obvious changes will make a difference.
 
@doug65536 They are all raw values
 
numbers, booleans, and strings? you can't do that then. you need to use a property for the .tp thing in M
 
@KarmaDoe vs objects?
 
you can't go var x = 5; x.myProp = 20;
 
@doug65536 I mean, you can, it's just not good.
 
8:02 PM
^
 
I able to do it
 
you can do all of those things
you never should and if you do, you're a bad person
 
because toArray = N, so all properties are defined.
 
!!> var x = 3; x.myProp = 4; console.log(x)
 
@doug65536 "undefined" Logged: 3
 
8:02 PM
oh can you?
 
@rlemon It itches from last time.
 
!!> var x = 3; x.myProp = 4; console.log(x.myProp)
 
!!> var x = 3; x.myProp = 4; console.log(x.myProp)
 
@ssube "undefined" Logged: "undefined"
 
!!> var x = 3; x.myProp = 4; console.log(x.myProp)
 
8:03 PM
@rlemon "undefined" Logged: "undefined"
@david "undefined" Logged: "undefined"
 
damn cap
 
rip
 
why is cap not allowing that?
 
you can't do that
 
it's allowing it
 
8:03 PM
@doug65536 you can
or, you could
it used to be a pretty common hack, especially with strings
 
i think it's boxing the number and putting it on a Number, which then gets discarded
 
strict mode disallows it
 
Keep forgetting my monitor has a usb hub
 
x = {} x.myprop = 'value'
 
!!> var x = {valueOf:()=>3, myProp:4}; console.log(x, x.myProp)
 
8:04 PM
@Shmiddty "undefined" Logged: {"valueOf":"()=>3","myProp":4},4
 
!!> var x = {valueOf:()=>3, myProp:4}; console.log(x*x, x.myProp)
 
@Shmiddty "undefined" Logged: 9,4
 
@Shmiddty don't tempt valueOf
 
guys, come on. it's horrible
 
no one is arguing that
 
8:05 PM
it is horrible
it's just that it will either work or fail silently, both of which make it worse
 
really you should be putting all of your properties in a global state object that you access with a series of chained reducers
 
!!> var x = {}; x.myProp = '4'; console.log(x.myProp)
 
you should treat non-objects as immutable, and "boxing" should not even be a term js devs have to mention
 
step 1) don't use var
 
@doug65536 sure we should, boxing is crazy expensive and easy to accidentally do
 
8:07 PM
numbers would be pretty bad if they were immutable
 
if you toString number, it gets boxed
@Shmiddty they are
 
numbers would be really fucking weird if they were mutable :S
 
const 3 = 4; // screw you guys, I'm going home
 
undefined.foo = 42;
 
I need an object with different values for the same property name.
The only way to achieve that is with an array of objects
 
8:08 PM
no you don't
 
@KarmaDoe you can't do that
 
@KarmaDoe use a property name for the main thing too
 
null.prototype.getValue = () => return "ha ha";
 
can you do something like Number.valueOf = () => 'Shit son you dun goofed'; to pick up accidental boxings?
 
Object.Property: Array;
 
8:09 PM
ew
What even is this?
 
@david I don't think so. Boxing happens before any methods can be called.
 
I am diseased now
 
you can't call methods on a primitive without boxing it first
 
dances on ndugger's grave
 
you want two properties with the same name? or one property with multiple values? neither make much sense,
 
8:10 PM
@ndugger this. is. javascript.
 
oh, diseased, not deceased.
 
Go make cringy fb status ndigger.
 
@Luggage you can't place a party area on top of a grave
 
I might become deceased from all these diseases
 
jquery
 
8:11 PM
he's already here.
 
@BenFortune how about robogist integration?
you feed it a gist id and it injects the .css and .js files in the gist
 
@KarmaDoe something like this will not have your bug
not sure I got all the property names right. it's gibberish
 
Clicking.
 
@doug65536 you can destructure and make that way shorter
 
@ssube I don't transpilers and I expect code to work on a wide variety of browsers, and it is for a beginner, keeping it simpler
 
8:14 PM
those variable names
 
How is that different ?
 
@KarmaDoe that makes different objects so they won't all point to one which you repeatedly overwrite
 
@doug65536 You gave a good argument for avoiding experimental features, but not for avoiding the current version of javascript
 
rows.map(row => {
  const {id, to, tp, tm, cm, eo, cd, u, ui} = row;
  return {
  	C: id,
    I: {T: to, V: id}
  };
});
 
@Luggage must be nice to live in fantasy land where people have the current version of js
 
8:15 PM
I'm impressed that you bothered to do that ssube
 
the naming will keep the code bad, no matter what you use
 
My fantasy land is called babel.
 
Or node
Or mobile
Or modern clients
 
@ssube That can't be done, object structure must be the same.
 
you guys have really fucking boring fantasies
 
8:16 PM
!!afk unicorn
 
@rlemon What would that be used for though?
 
Injection of your own stuff. CSS overrides. Etc
 
@doug65536 I'm smelling 80% chance of having the same issue, but ill try.
 
maybe I'll just fix/complete robogist
 
Sounds bloaty 😛 Might be better off in it's own extension
 
8:18 PM
right now it is
 
Our linter treats errors as real errors... and we've just set up error tracking... so now everyone on slack knows if you forget a semicolon
 
just not published
and it doesn't really work 😃
it used to work tho 😛 so
 
haha, did chrome break it?
 
idk, I'll have to look into it
it's been a while since I've touched it
 
holy shit that was 9 months ago?
 
8:20 PM
time flies man
 
Time flies when you're dying.
 
@doug65536 or a real land where almost everybody supports es5 and you can use es6/7 features easily enough
 
i wish
 
that's my secret Loke, I'm always dying
 
we all are
 
> Nobody belongs anywhere, nobody exists on purpose, everybody's going to die. -Morty
 
@ssube @Trasiva Vanessa is officially woke af now
 
@BenFortune your moves are weak
 
@SterlingArcher Noice
 
She dooooooooooo
Samurai is 20 now and critting 5k
 
8:23 PM
@BenFortune lol I love this one
that dude is hilarious
 
@Loktar 😃 You seen the bong one?
 
probably, lol I went on a binge watching him a while back
 
I can't wait for season 3.
 
@bluefeet I respect that, but if someone is claiming they're a professor or an artist or anything else in the election post I feel entitled to question that part of their life they've already agreed to share with me. I wasn't being disrespectful, shaming or argumentative in my comment - or at least I certainly wasn't trying to me. Seeing this bothered you it probably bothers some others too so I'll back off.
 
@Luggage Did you see the real life version someone built of this?
 
Yea. I think it was on hacker news.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I asked directly (and specifically) about his qualifications and the answer was none, with a lot of misdirection.
 
@ssube it's a little weird someone without a PhD would call themselves a professor
 
@Luggage Oh man I gotta finish watching this
 
8:27 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah, he's misrepresenting himself.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum it's more the hunting down of info not available on their SO profile or linked to directly from it. I understand the desire to ask for details, but asking is different from searching for it and then posting it here.
 
I'm a Professor at jQuery University; hire me to moderate your overflowed stacks
 
@bluefeet I wouldn't link to it had I not found it directly from his site linked to in his SO profile - I get the reservation though.
 
wait, was this guy running in the SO election?
and he lied about having a phd?
but you're not allowed to call him out on it? o_O
 
@david no, he hasn't lied.
He is misrepresenting himself and won't directly answer questions about it.
 
8:29 PM
@ssube Technically he is a professor of business administration. To be a professor you need to have a terminal degree in your field of research and to be awarded the title at an institution. It is possible that in business administration an MA is the terminal degree and he was indeed given the title. I tend to believe that by default.
 
Technically you can be a professor, at some places, with no PhD.
@BenjaminGruenbaum not in the US
 
I'm a professor of love.
 
it's up to the school, really
that's why he is technically, if you really pick it apart, not lying
 
@ssube I thought it was required, and so if you don;t have a PhD, you're an "Instructor" instead
 
@ssube that's a little stupid - it's up to the school here if you have the terminal degree in your field
@ndugger right, instructor or teacher or just course staff
 
8:30 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum not necessarily, if you've been hired to teach somewhere they might give you a title of professor. Same as if you're hired as a developer, you might not be trained as one but that's your title.
 
I know people that teach at a university and they are 'professors', as in teachers, but not Professors as in a PHD
 
@bluefeet kind of like how I'm not actually an engineer but a CS graduate but my title is engineer
 
it's about rank, not degree
 
I disagree with titles being locked behind amounts of education.
 
8:31 PM
@ssube here it is required
I'll tell me dad though.
 
claiming you are a professor and piggy-backing off the implications that makes is dishonest
 
@KevinB it's not education, you don't get educated in a PhD you perform research
 
that nomination write up is intentionally misleading, but not so far as to be worth flagging
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yup. Kinda of like I'm not a doctor but I play one on TV. :P
 
YOU'RE NOT A DOCTOR?
 
8:32 PM
fun fact: I'm not actually a citrus fruit.
2
 
I feel so... betrayed.
 
@bluefeet is there anything that can be done to discourage that kind of loose wordplay?
 
@bluefeet So...let's discuss that physical you just gave me last week.
 
@ssube it might be a teaching thing
 
oh god, the lies
 
8:33 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum that is his claim.
 
@doug65536 Thanks.
 
@ssube Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with what they wrote.
 
@bluefeet so a TV doctor eh? So I have this bump on my shoulder that won't go away, is it lupos?
 
Is being a professor really a qualification for moderation? Skillset doesn't denote public power positions really
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum maybe it's worms
 
8:33 PM
@bluefeet it's probably opinion. I just don't like it.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum no, you're pregnant
 
It's never lupus.
 
I did think CS professor when I wrote it, which does require a PhD
 
maybe the worms have lupus
 
@ssube which you're entitled to
 
8:33 PM
@rlemon again?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum twins
told you not to hold hands with @Zirak
 
> If you hold hands, you will get pregnant and die
 
@rlemon If you know of a better way to exchange protein strands, I'd like to know about it
 
@rlemon :(
 
.. phrasing?
 
8:34 PM
@rlemon if Benjamin and Zirak hold hands, they become pregnant with hand-holding twin baby Benjamin and Ziraks?
so like, if they touch, we get an exponential explosion of both?
 
Benzak
 
@ssube no, both babies are @BadgerCat
 
Zirenji
 
@rlemon well that's not as bad
 
@rlemon ^^
I think babies holding hands is adorable
 
8:35 PM
Zirenjamin Gruenbak
 
dank
Should I run for moderator again? #MakeJavaScriptDankAgain
 
Benjarak Ziruenbaum
 
I've had enough of elections for a while.
 
That makes me uncomfortable.
 
!!s/ele/ere/
 
8:37 PM
@ndugger That makes me uncomfortabre. (source)
 
k
 
@ndugger I've had enough of erections for a while. (source)
 
man, Robogist is coded terribly
 
Still don't quite get the use of *mons
 
@BenFortune angels level up others, devils level up skills, and rainbows are fodder
 
8:44 PM
what? pokemons? mormons?
 
@ssube where did you get those pills and can you share?
 
Makes sense, thanks
Is there anything I should be doing to rainbows before using as fodder?
 
I wish you could level up rainbows via battle
I also wish you got some sort of perk when a friend uses your rep in battle
 
@Luggage Pokémormons!
 
Does anyone have advice on a great module for editing an existing docX file? I know of several templating modules, but they don't see to allow any editing besides (essentially) dropping content into placeholders.
 
8:51 PM
docx as in MS Word?
 
yes
 
Not I, sorry.. That's a complex file format.
well, it's just a zip file full of xml files.. but..
 
Yeah. Its a pain :)
 
@COMisHARD Welcome back!
 
Thank you
I managed to import all my json files yesterday btw!
 
8:55 PM
Congratz on that!
 
user6995829
hello
 
user6995829
@lyndact you suspended?
 

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