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3:00 AM
...gotta give the prople what they want...i tried
they paid 1200 for this
3 years ago
 
I FIXED ALL THE THINGS
 
i apologiesed to them
 
God I love how easy it is to reimage a chromebook
 
@Skullomania How much are you charging them?
 
just 3k
@Shmiddty why?
 
3:03 AM
US$3000?
 
@Skullomania You brought it up. I'm curious. It's not like you're giving them anything they couldn't do themselves with one of the dozens of free website creation tools out there
 
@Shmiddty If you use this approach you need to mutate.
 
@Waterscroll that so?
 
@Shmiddty Yes, that is what giving the zombie new clothes mean.
 
is it?
 
3:06 AM
...sigh...everyones a critic...yea...they could use a website builder...i could not be making 3k...but they arenot...and I am getting paid
...moving along then...
 
Not going to help you, buddy. :)
good luck
 
Applications that don't mutate, end up using more memory. If your memory is finite, you may reach a point where you don't have more memory and your application is going to crash.
 
@Waterscroll recycling and mutation are different things
 
s/ut//
 
don't need nor want your help buddy. I built this site, figuring out the next step will only take another hour....cheers
 
3:08 AM
Don't call me buddy, pal.
 
sure slick!
haha
 
@Shmiddty If you change the value then you are mutating. How can you recycle without changing the value?
Or a value.
 
Let's say you have two cans of soda. Are they the same can of soda?
 
No.
 
Let's say you recycle one can
Is the new can the same can it once was?
 
3:09 AM
Ok.
No.
 
recycling != mutation
mutation would be putting a hole in the can
 
I see what you mean.
You didn't made a change to an object, you change it so much that it is like a new object.
 
it is a new object
 
Static use of memory works even better when you know exactly how much memory you have available, like when you are programming a custom chip. But you have to add constrains, for example you have to set a limit to characters entered by the user.
 
@Lemony-Andrew It isn't don't confuse them.
Anyone who says otherwise most likely has little to no experience in both areas.
 
3:14 AM
@Loktar what?
 
context.
 
@Lemony-Andrew that little left-pointing arrow tells you what he's replying to
clicking on it will take you directly to the message
 
@Shmiddty Thanks got it. That's pretty nifty.
 
That is the beauty of dynamic, if the use type a short string, then you can use what is left for something else.
 
@Loktar can you come over to hangouts for a minute ?
 
3:15 AM
@Waterscroll What are you doing, sir?
 
link @Abhishrek
 
@Loktar I haven't researched them to make an educated guess! But thanks for letting me know. I was just trying to make sense of it, but at this point I won't need to know exactly.
 
I am talking about the pros and cons of using static memory.
 
With whom?
 
3:16 AM
@Abhishrek ah I thought you had one going already
 
You.
 
@Loktar lol nope, just wanna talk but not in the main chat :P
 
I guess to the wall, since you didn't know that.
 
I messaged you @Abhishrek
 
Are there people that think performance in JS matters and other people that think that performance does not matter. Like there is people that think FS is better than OO and OO is better than FS?
 
3:21 AM
performance only matters when it does
 
@Loktar okay now am there xD
 
@Abhishrek can I come too?!
 
If people here want to start a hangout group call, am up for it !
 
I think that the user experience is the core. If your application is slow, but it does not hang during user interaction and have a nice loading bar, then it is ok.
 
@Waterscroll Well, it's not like javascript is used for cpu intensive tasks :P
 
3:23 AM
JavaScript can't inherit from more than one class because it's prototypal, right? ES6 didn't change anything about that besides change <class>.prototype=<class2> into <class>extends<class2>{}.
Was anything added to support something like Java interfaces?
 
web workers spawn an additional thread, right?
 
I think it is a process.
On Android some web sites are really slow.
 
We should be doing physics calculations and updates in webworkers... event based
the main thread should be handling just I/O
 
On some android devices, yes. But there are only a few websites are DOM-intensive.
 
.
 
3:27 AM
Once a made a website with a lot of cards that you could swipe with your finger and the others would move to fill the hole. That was slow on Android and I had to use some workarounds to make it fast.
 
@Shmiddty hangouts user ? or ping me at abhishek@goph.me
@BartekBanachewicz o/
 
Banana Chew Icz is offensive. Bananas are delicious
 
One time on reddit I saw someone saying that instead of porting react to native why not making a web application? The guy got tons of dislikes, some said he didn't read the article that said they needed performance. What do you guys think about that?
 
@Waterscroll Once browsers get better hardware hooks it won't matter
 
hardware hooks?
 
3:36 AM
camera, mic, etc
There's no need for more than one UI language
we're all just trying to bring it to its simplest form
 
When you run the application on a potato or an iPotato, don't expect it to run that well.
 
@pootis depends on how well you write code and design ux.
If its good enough it will do fine and degrade gracefully on cellular devices.
 
@Abhishrek Totally. I once wrote a linux distro that ran on a stem cell
 
lol
 
I think it would be nice to have a book that teaches little things to avoid that make your website much slower. I personally get easily annoyed by slow performance and ui glitches.
 
3:45 AM
They're calling it homo sapiens sapiens these days
 
@Waterscroll it's a book called experience
 
@Shmiddty well that explains the bugs.
 
@Abhishrek I did it in a day, man. Cut me some slack
 
Application performance comes later in life, when you have a much deeper understanding of a language
 
@Shmiddty You did it yahweh ?
 
3:47 AM
For instance, most new JS developers are overwhelmed by loops, let alone that a for loop is faster than a forEach loop
 
Damn sorry about spelling xD, I decimated the pun.
 
Apparently yaaway is a thing
"Jesus without the dogma"
 
@Shmiddty or Horus without the copy cat ? // too far ?
 
Some JS developers come from different backgrounds and may even be able to build a browser by themselves from scratch, they may be interested in how today browsers in particular work.
 
Are you saying Horus === Jesus?
or Jesus == Horus?
class Jesus extends Horus?
 
3:52 AM
Horus, the egyptian god?
 
@SterlingArcher yes
@Shmiddty I'd say const Jesus.prototype = _.assign({}, new Yahweh, new Horus);
would be a better example :->
 
We can make Jesus better. We have the technology...
3
 
Here's the thing... anyone who believes that the bible is the word of god is clearly an idiot
All religious texts are filled with lies
 
I believe that if your religion incites directly, or indirectly, violence or hatred, one should rethink it.
 
Let's logic this for a second
 
3:59 AM
There's only one thing I try to practice religiously.

JavaScript
 
God is
 
@Shmiddty I'm offensive and I find that religious.
 
PEOPLE The only religious debate we allow in here are emacs vs vim, tabs vs space.
 
[] Omnipotent
[] Omnipresent
 
Let's put room out of this god.
 
4:00 AM
It's not a debate, we're logicing
 
@pootis dispenser here
 
Religion has good morals, but is plagued by human faults
 
morality is relative
 
stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
4:01 AM
STOP
 
People might be offended, some RO's are religious
 
halt
 
HAMMERZEIT!
 
and this will cause a religious war.
 
I'm not debating the existence of a creator
 
4:02 AM
@Lemony-Andrew ha!
 
I'm saying religious texts are bullshit lies used to control the masses
 
@pootis :P Been forever since I've played tf2 lol
 
@Lemony-Andrew ah.. been busy?
 
@Shmiddty well I am with you on that one.
 
4:03 AM
@pootis computer just not good enough to make massive plays lol.
I've tried other games that are less graphics intensive ... as weird as that sounds. My computer isn't great with 3d
 
@Shmiddty have you ever read Kierkegaard's take on religion and "the crowd"?
It's quite eye opening.
 
@SterlingArcher nope
 
@Lemony-Andrew try lowering video settings. I recently played on a 10.1 inch toaster with 2gb ram.
It.. worked.
 
@pootis HA! Well, it's not "unplayable", I can play it decently well I'd say. I just have 2 major issues: bad network, bad graphics card, (plus laptop)
 
4:06 AM
tl;dr - crowd mentality drives religion (blindly worshipping because told to). a relationship with god (diety, whatever) should be on a personal level
It's a very good essay
 
@Lemony-Andrew Oh, It's near impossible to play on a laptop, unless you have a mouse.
 
@pootis I think the big problem is really the internet and graphics card. I've played on the lowest settings and just can't run it smoothly.

To give you a good idea of what my internet speed is like.... My phone's free internet speed can be faster than internet speed at home lol
 
Oh, you need to have a down speed of at least 200kbps and a moderately good graphics card.
 
Yeah man mine's average half of that
 
You should really consider changing your ISP unless they're offering the current plan for free.
 
4:22 AM
It's not really all that horrible. I can do just about all my daily tasks pretty fine actually. Somehow, I'm able to stream youtube without buffering and there's 2 other devices that are almost always streaming netflix too.
 
@Lemony-Andrew Have you tried stopping the other devices from streaming before playing?
 
@Shmiddty Yeah It's it appears to be the same download speed no matter how many devices.
 
I am launching an IoT tool on saturday, no clue how should I though
 
5:03 AM
figured it out
I ended up using a jQuery window.resize
 
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@Skullomania Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
 
I did
...i thought
$(window).on('resize', function(){
		  var win = $(this);
		  if (win.width() <= 767)
		  {
			$('#products .item').addClass('list-group-item');
		  }
		});
 
5:22 AM
General question about zip/unzip via node streams...Suppose I've zipped a folder that contains sub folders and files at each level...how do we think "streams" and zip or unzip them?
 
5:52 AM
@Room Can I be pinged by everyone who is active on HN ?
 
Maybe @all works
 
/cc @RO can someone pin that for me ?
 
Hi all. Any idea how I could trigger the event of selecting an option in a <select> tag?
I manage to select the option many ways using JS but none trigger the event normally triggered if the user does it himself.
I'm on the Memrise.com Dashboard trying to select a category in the dropdown list
Setting a value to theSelectTag.optionIndex or theSelectTag.value both select it but doesn't trigger the loading of the newly selected category.
I tried emulating a click event but it does nothing.
I'm guessing that if I was good enough at debugging/profiling and would find what function is called, I could just call it again but the code has been optimized so it is a real chaos.
Maybe the builtin Chrome debugger could tell me but idk how to.
 
Doing it programmatically doesn't trigger the event...
 
The thing is I'm not sure what event IS triggered so I can't really trigger it again. Is there an easy way I could figure out which is? Or do I have to go delve into that myself? (like is it simple enough it can be answered here on chat?)
 
6:07 AM
its better you can abstract the desired logic (that of extracting value out of select) into a method...normally you'd execute that method in the event call, but instead, call the method directly to achieve result
 
Problem is, I ignore what function is being called
That's only because I ignore how to figure that out
 
7:09 AM
@Loktar @SterlingArcher @Luggage I am going back to India in valentines week.
and NO it has nothing to do with valentines day, its just the cheapest ticket I can get.
 
user3119231
7:33 AM
Good morning again
 
 
user3119231
Ballmer Peak was doing its job
 
7:47 AM
Oh well, I give up
not that important
Would have been nice
but that was just for my personal use mainly
so not that a big deal
 
user3119231
If you feel bored please do me a favour and praise javascripts nuts for this: codepen.io/Megabyteceer/pen/qbXJMQ
3
 
8:06 AM
@rlemon no, you can't kick mods
 
I bet I could
 
@Maurize Kewl. Beat it :-)
 
user3119231
for me "good ol classic" styled games are the best
 
Whats the best way to use JS and refresh a table id?
 
Oh wow
Kick notifications
 
@Maurize I'm always surprised when I see this kind of pen on codepen. Can I assume you didn't code it there (coding in a textarea more than a few LOC seems insane)? So, why put it here ?
@MadaraUchiha Hu ?
 
@DenysSéguret When you kick, the other ROs (users?) get kick notifications
 
MSXML2::IXMLDOMNamedNodeMapPtr pPrefixAttrMap = spNode->Getattributes();
if (pPrefixAttrMap->getNamedItem("name"))
{
}
 
8:29 AM
@MadaraUchiha Can you kick @rlemon so that I see if I'm a RO ?
 
How i change the value of the name?
 
@DenysSéguret I'd rather kick someone who's here and willing :P
 
kick me then
I want to try it
 
Oh, I saw it
Not very spectacular. Lacks kick images.
SO devs love memes, they missed an opportunity there.
 
8:31 AM
Right, so that's how it looks compared to a flag ban :)
 
You know what to do now
!!afk work, work work...
 
shoooooot meeeee
 
8:48 AM
Everything in this image looks horrible
 
It's missing a "Your browser is too old. This website requires at least Firefox 3 or Internet Explorer 8 (recommended)." message
 
If I'd put my PHP code on the same page as the JS, this wouldn't work right? I want to refresh the table id with #show but wouldn't ajax be necessary for this, or I'm not correct?
 
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$(document).ready(function() {
  setInterval(function() {
    $('#show')
  }, 1500);
});
 
user3119231
8:56 AM
$(document).ready(function() {
  setTimeout(function() {
    $('#show')
  }, 1500);
});
 
They listened
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yup
I flagged your question to be tagged
 
Kick Notifications are now live - Room Owners now get notifications when a user was kicked
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@Tredged That code does nothing every second and a half
 
Thanks @shog9 @balpha , much appreciated.
 
8:57 AM
@MadaraUchiha Hi, thats why I am asking. if I wanted to refresh table with id show, wouldn't i be needed to use Ajax?
@Maurize Why Timeout instead of Interval ;-)?
 
@Tredged "refresh" how?
 
@MadaraUchiha Same pages displays logs, which is called through php I want to refresh that every 1,5 seconds without the page having to reload.
 
user3119231
@Tredged do you really want to do $('#show') every 1500 ms? -> Oh, okay. I would rather work with push
 
@Tredged Who has the updated logs?
(I'm guessing the server?)
 
@MadaraUchiha Yeah I call it through a query so, I basically want to query to be executed again without page reloading.
 
8:59 AM
@Tredged So yes, you'd have to use AJAX
 
user3119231
!!google jquery ajax
 
@MadaraUchiha Thanks ;-)
@Maurize Thanks ;-)
 
9:29 AM
@SterlingArcher You remind me of Alpha Centauri. Sid Meier's. It is set in the future, and has voiced phase(s) for each tech. One of them, the Network Node (i.e. library), have a rock band singing "Jesus got a network node".
 
Halp, I fell for client-side only rendering meme
 
It's so strange when you're remembered of one of your games by a user who wants a hint for a level, and you go to the game to see what that level was about and you have no idea of how you play it...
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum including who kicked?
 
@AwalGarg yes, and by whom
 
nice
 
9:40 AM
Why would that be strange? I can't remeber how I passed Briad. I only remember that it was crazy.
 
What's Briad ?
 
I can only remember the last stage, which is an excellent in stage story design, rather than a mental challenge.
 
I just googled to see if SpaceBullet is listed. There's now another game (and a company) by that name!
Will I receive a cease and desist letter or will they keep quiet knowing I can claim first use ? ^^
 
Send one before you get one
 
@DenysSéguret It's an action puzzler with a... watercolour art style? In it you can freely undo time - to arbitrary point in time - and try again.
 
9:43 AM
I wanna test the new kick notification feature - any volunteers to be kicked for 1m?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum sure
 
Did everyone get a notification?
 
9:44 AM
Awesome
Thanks @khajvah
 
Glorious notification
 
Aww, now I can't kick @Mosho at work for lols when he's all focused reading the screen.
I see you typing @Mosho
 
like I need notifications to know it's you
 
@DenysSéguret Despite the classification, Briad is more a puzzle game than an action game. A pretty hard one. It played time to a new height. Forward & backward time right off the bat. I think it started parallel time in chapter 3, and that is just starting to get serious.
 
9:46 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum thou shall not kick dogs !
animal cruelty
i'm currently "battling" with microsoft tech support. I was very clear about my problem, said what exactly the cause is, and they're suggesting solutions that i already have done or those really not relevant to my problem.
 
@Sheepy stop describing what it is without going a link to the playable game
 
XD
 
now my call is forwarded to a senior engineer
 
hmm, kitkat puts some time in seconds inside the packaging, I just noticed. I wonder why they need precision in seconds
 
kitkat, the chocolate cookie ?
 
9:48 AM
@KarelG lol, we've wasted tens of hours doing that. The first goal is to reach an enginner.
 
@DenysSéguret Braid on Steam. store.steampowered.com/app/26800 I think it is also available on other stores.
 
oh, it's not free...
 
Oh fuck
I thought that would be funny, but it was for 5 minutes :(
Sorry @Mosho, do some work
 
You just totally got me beat up lol
 
You guys are starting to generate kick flags
 
9:50 AM
:D
 
It easily worth the full price if you love puzzle games. You think the (now free) Monument Valley was hard and beautiful? You haven't played Braid.
 
@KarelG I'd guess android
 
Try to tone it down
 
@MadaraUchiha yessir
 
Monument Valley is also nice, by the way. Too bad it only entertained me for two hours. And I paid for it. It is still good to see it's now free. monumentvalleygame.com
 
9:58 AM
keh that engineer said that i shouldn't read the kernel files because (literally) you need the required technical knowledge to understand it. So contradicting.
 
Good Morning from Europe!
And fuck mondays!
 
@Hoijof :(
 
@Hoijof it's pretty much Tuesday here, so don't worry, Monday turns out okay.
 
@phe
@phenomnomnominal Good to know :D
 
My classes have started and deadlines are approaching at work.
 
10:01 AM
@khajvah Wow, well, good luck with that!
 
Spaaaaaam notifications
 
tone down my ass
 
@Mosho ...
 
he kicked me for 4 minutes :(
 
@Mosho And I'll ban you for 60
 
10:05 AM
If that's not long enough, we can easily fix that ^_^
 
@MadaraUchiha Can you confine someone to a specific room?
 
@MadaraUchiha and I'll kick you in the shins
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Other than kicking them everywhere else? Don't think so
 
@MadaraUchiha It's not wise to upset a Wookie.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Meh, you're the one closest to him, he'll take out his frustration on you :D
 
10:06 AM
@MadaraUchiha regular users don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they get banned for 60m. @Mosho has been known to do that.
 
An SO ban confines the user to all rooms that aren't on SO. That's as specific as you can get.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Well, if I'm going to get my arms pulled out, I might as well suspend him for longer :D
 
@MadaraUchiha I hear he's got a crossbow too
 
If you suspend him for longer, I'm sure he'll be pulling your leg...
 
Those kick notifications are annoying AF
 
10:10 AM
@MadaraUchiha he has the death sentence on 12 systems
 
Last night I got them for all non-SO rooms
 
expected 'this.Given(/something/, function (done) {\n    httpBackend.whenGET(/some\\/URL/).passThrough();\n    done();\n});' to equal 'this.Given(/something/, function (done) {\n    httpBackend.whenGET(/some\\/url/).passThrough();\n    done();\n});'
can someone tell me where I'm wrong
It's late and my brain is mush
 
I guess you need some sleep....
 
Unformatted code doesn't run. Trust me.
 
@Maurize I don't get it. What's the license on this thing? You can freely fork it, then what?
 
10:11 AM
@phenomnomnominal To be specific, the case is different. URL vs url.
 
motherfuck
thank you
 
:D
 
10:25 AM
@JeromeJ Unless mentioned, every public pen is MIT licensed. But.. just don't present it as your own.
 
Thank you very much pootis
I see that MIT license is very permissive
 
user3119231
@pootis Just shared this with you. Would never fork a pen.
 
how do you fork a pen
 
user3119231
 
oh you meant codepen :D
 
user3119231
10:34 AM
There is a button - It's magic or something :P
 
!!nudge 25
 
@MadaraUchiha Nudge #4 registered.
 
wait
search "forked pen" on google images
pls... hahahahaha
@FlorianMargaine
 
user3119231
user image
7
 
user3119231
Hell crazy.
 
10:35 AM
hahahaha
 
user3119231
@Neoares we strike again o/
 
@Maurize \o
 
ur face man
 
user3119231
^
 
10:39 AM
i'm getting that as one of google image result too
haha
 
yeah, that's weird
 
How did that happen
 
you guys love me so much or something
 
codepen.io 512 × 512 Zoeken op afbeelding
Forked Pen
 
user3119231
@FlorianMargaine love & xoxo <<<<<<<<<<<<<3
 
yes
 
stupid pen title -> instant google celebrity...
 
I must've hit the fork button accidentally...
 
That's something
Stolen celebrity
kinda
 
10:59 AM
@MadaraUchiha nudge
 

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