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4:00 PM
Okay now I have added my question to the fiddle: jsfiddle.net/7Lz2ma1f/23. Could someone help me out there, please :)
 
@Trasiva When you get to the point where you're limited by p-levels and not gear, it can be depressing.
 
@Waxi That's called the end game, when you're min/maxing your gear. Diablo has always been about the gear. The paragon levels help you be able to push, but they aren't a deciding factor.
 
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@Mr.T Guten Tag!
 
@Waxi Don't you get them really fast anyway? And you can do T10 with just gear, can't you? :/
 
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4:03 PM
 
@Mr.T Your statement isn't making much sense to me. You have access to the object, you can grab whatever you need out of it.
 
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@Mr.T "Besuche das alte Dev-Center" <- You need to grab the right article
 
@RoelvanUden Paragon levels really slow down once you get to about 400. And if you have full ancient gear, you can probably easily remove all your paragon points and be fine.
 
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Sadly I don't know how to write bold.
 
4:05 PM
@rlemon why ._.
 
BOLLLD
 
because bro.
I'm feeling frisky.
 
@Maurize 2 asterisks
 
use my extension
 
like ** bold **
 
4:06 PM
!!google chat easy input tools
 
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@Loktar hate you! :D
 
@m59 I took a look into cycle and how it worked and I can't say I'm a fan, and it doesn't look like it's a good idea for larger programs, which is what I'm in the market for. There's even a separate 'related' project that was intended for making the process faster. I expected that, I'll be sticking with React for now since, the time being, it's more marketable.
 
@Lemony-Andrew good choice.
 
@rlemon :D
 
4:07 PM
@Maurize thanks for that advice, but its correct :)
 
@Lemony-Andrew you should learn Flash
 
We've been using react here for over a year, shipped a 4million+ web application with it that's great.
 
all the big shops are switching over
 
:28205425 You know Flash? Is he as derpy in person as he is in the comics?
 
@Loktar yeah, you'd better not say that in public
 
4:07 PM
@Trasiva he is all over the place.
ADHD.
 
@Loktar Imagine that.
 
@rlemon Action Script makes me cringe
 
I wasn't a huge fan of AS3
but AS2 was the shit lol
 
Now I can't wait to get home and play, thanks!
 
when flash was still prevalent, ActionScript FAR surpassed JavaScript
 
4:09 PM
@Loktar Haha, that's how I got started!
 
so to say AS made you cringe is kinda funny
 
It was such an exciting time
 
@Trasiva how do I have to convert that string, that it does the same as the first alert did?
 
@SomeGuy yeah for sure, AS2 made it so easy to dive in
was like basic for the web
 
It makes me cringe so hard now
But I was so proud when it crossed a 100 gameplays, haha
 
4:10 PM
@Mr.T You're not making sense. It's already an object of strings. All you have to do is call the appropriate index, and the field you need as well. You can concatenate as need be.
 
only one of mine I know of on the net
I like the idea (I'm biased of course) however it needed more to it
 
it gets impossible at like wave 4.
@SomeGuy idk how to play yours
/me reads instructions
 
@Loktar Ooh, that's fun!
@Loktar Don't bother :P
 
haha it isn't bad, floaty like asteroids
 
4:16 PM
@SomeGuy this was my first js game haha lemonfinity.com/game/lemonFrameDemo
 
Hah, nice!
 
looks cool @Lemony-Andrew
 
@Loktar Thanks!
@SomeGuy I liked your game, but couldn't figure out why it went out of control so easily
 
the one @Maurize(?) posted from codepen is legit
 
@Trasiva okay got it! That was what I wanted to have: jsfiddle.net/7Lz2ma1f/26
 
4:19 PM
yea, in the stars
 
@Lemony-Andrew oh that was @SomeGuy first flash game he has done so much cool shit :p
 
In interview, I could not answer - How to impl function currying using bind() call. I know that promise objects are deferrred objects. But interviewer asked, when to use promise objects?
 
played it for a good ten minutes
 
@rlemon I was in the middle of playing that lol
 
I generally do function currying using nested funcs
 
4:20 PM
such a good yet simple little crawler
 
9/10
 
i would have had to ask what function currying means
 
I need to finish mine up. (that is like 3 or 4 years old now)
 
@Lemony-Andrew I don't have the source-code for it anymore either :P
 
4:20 PM
lol his is actually cool, I just don't like the motion
 
lol
the code is nice and clean / simple as well !@Loktar
 
@Mr.T NoNONONONONONO. Don't do it that way, do it this way...for all of our sanity. jsfiddle.net/Trasiva/7Lz2ma1f/27
 
Does Vuejs detect drag events?
 
last thing I did on mine was implement pathfinding then I switched jobs
 
4:21 PM
@crl Your fiddle is good, thank you. but not useful for me, because I need to check is two stars around selected-text or not .. if yes, then remove them, else append them - your fiddle just adds
 
@SterlingArcher just got new juice... RIP
it will be mist.
 
THERE WILL BE CLOUDS
 
@Mr.T If eval is the answer, there are roughly two options: 1. you're asking the wrong question, 2. you came up with the wrong answer.
 
crl
@stack check next one
 
what?
 
4:22 PM
feel like i'm missing half of this conversation... who's Mr.T
 
crl
11 mins ago, by crl
@stack http://jsfiddle.net/crl/cpzgzr7p/4/
 
do i have someone blocked?
 
yeah
like sudo rm / -r
 
@crl Well this doesn't work at all ...
 
4:24 PM
@MadaraUchiha I made this function without even thinking about eval: github.com/Lemony-Andrew/Origin.js/blob/master/src/… . I feel like it may be a bottleneck and that eval would be better in this situation
 
crl
@stack what browser?
 
chrome
 
crl
it toggles when the selection is like |**test**|
not like this **|test|**
 
@Lemony-Andrew eval is slow
 
@rlemon And a bigger pain in the ass than my doctor at my annual exam.
 
crl
4:25 PM
you want to change that?
 
@Lemony-Andrew If you need that function it's a good sign that 1. your data structure is inadequate to what you want to do or 2. You have a code structure problem which requires accessing deep objects with runtime values.
 
@MadaraUchiha I fixed it. I used his alert(), but I felt dirty doing that instead of a console.log.
 
@crl the second fiddle that you gave me, completely doesn't work, when I click on those button, nothing happens
 
@MadaraUchiha the first claim there is not very valid.
there are plenty of use cases for property lookup like that
 
4:27 PM
and there are lots of high perf libraries to handle it as well
 
@SomeGuy requires flash :(
 
@rlemon With runtime values?
 
and shitty ones I write on friday evenings.
 
@Abhishrek hangouts
 
crl
but it's shitty because it goes cross-node:
 
4:27 PM
Dec 16 '14 at 18:25, by rlemon
function lookup(query, obj) {
  var parts = query.split('.'),
       cache = obj;
  for( var i = 0, l = parts.length; i < l; i++) {
    if( parts[i] in cache ) cache = cache[parts[i]];
  }
  return cache;
}
var a = { b: { c: { d: "Hello World" }}};
lookup("b.c.d", a);
"Hello World"
 
Sounds like an epic code smell to me TBH.
 
@crl I don't know what's the problem, but still nothing
 
@AwalGarg Yeah, since that's what we were talking about :p
 
@MadaraUchiha Yes, that's exactly what I needed it for. I needed to dynamically access values of objects because there was a possibility that the reference from the base object would change and storing the direct base
 
@MadaraUchiha limited cases, sure, but not "your design is wrong because you do this"
just like eval..
 
4:28 PM
!!afk food
 
@rlemon Every time I've met an actual case like this in production it could have been modeled a lot better.
Every time.
 
so?
 
you haven't hit a use case
 
There is no better way to do what my code was doing.
 
4:29 PM
that means nothing
 
@rlemon Given the time I've been developing JavaScript applications, my experience does amount to something
 
I've never personally needed to use eval
doesn't mean it is useless
I understand that
 
And given that I've yet to encounter a usecase which doesn't have a better alternative, I have no compelling reason to believe that his is the one.
 
and that is a narrow minded view
 
And it's a problematic claim, to both argue, and to disprove, I know.
@rlemon I don't think it is.
 
4:30 PM
@MadaraUchiha I'm not using eval anyways, it would be slow, but my getPathData function is necessary.
 
Is it =+ or +=? I always forget.
 
then we agree to disagree
@Waxi +=
 
@rlemon Gracias senor.
 
I think that looking at as big a picture as possible, to find better ways to model the business logic is not narrow minded.
 
@MadaraUchiha "to find better ways to model the business logic is not narrow minded."
 
4:31 PM
Being presented with a simplified case with no context will instantly trigger my XY Problem red alert.
 
I'm not saying that is narrow minded
 
Just like with eval()
 
I'm saying dismissing the entire idea because you have never needed it is narrow minded
 
@rlemon Where do you put the line?
 
If you were provided with an object that is dynamic, IE, can have paths added and deleted randomly at run time and you needed to reference those objects in the now, how would you go about getting that? And lets say that path is deep and you stored the 4th branch and the second branch was overwritten. You're not pointing to old data and you're preventing garbage collection and also not getting the right value.
 
4:33 PM
don't be dismissive at all?
 
i.e. is the idea of wrapping all incoming number input in parseInt(n, 10) good?
Is the idea of generating function strings for everything because JIT good?
No, in the vast majority of cases, no it is not.
This is not a different concept.
 
and do you know every case? no you do not. so don't dismiss out of the gate. <- all I'm saying
 
@Cereal google "moon jellyfish"
 
4:34 PM
@rlemon There are legitimate usecases for both function strings and dynamic object lookup.
 
@Cereal Uhhhh
 
I'm just hesitant to believe that his is one such case.
 
@rlemon o.o pretty
 
@MadaraUchiha but that is not how you opened up
> If you need that function it's a good sign that 1. your data structure is inadequate to what you want to do or 2. You have a code structure problem which requires accessing deep objects with runtime values.
I just voiced my problem with that
you had all of like 18 seconds to read his code to see his use case :D
 
@rlemon Fair enough
@rlemon No, that's absolutely 100% not enough to discern his use case.
 
4:36 PM
@Cereal you can get these little tanks delivered + the jellyfish
 
How is he getting that data? What generates that data? Why this data structure? Can you offload part of the lookup to functions higher up the chain to do more "compile time" lookup?
 
which is what I imagine that email is for
they claim the jellyfish will live a few years
I dunno... :/
 
They look like this
Doesn't seem very ethical
 
ahh, maybe the same company?
 
@rlemon Luminous?
 
4:37 PM
Pretty sure they'd freeze in the truck in canada
 
what if you put that on your computers refrigeration?
 
@MadaraUchiha kinda
they don't generate their own light, but reflect light well
 
So... not luminous :D
 
@Cereal shipping isn't the issue
keeping things in such a small space is
 
That too
 
4:38 PM
 
Yeah, it's a question of how big a tank you're willing to get for them.
And how big a tank they need
 
this is how they ship betta fish
and that is the most humane way
 
lol wtf man
 
@rlemon Holy shit
 
if they have too much room they flail around and can injure themselves
 
4:39 PM
The "minimum tank size" listed for the fish at my local pet store has bigger tanks than they even sell for little tiny fish
 
Yikes
 
the water has a chem in it to calm the fish as well
almost like a knockout gas
 
:/
 
it is the best way to ship them
 
that way the fish doesn't suffer
 
4:40 PM
yes
 
but what about a little more watter?
 
no room to move === no room to get knocked around
sleeping blue water === they are calm and don't freak out
@Neoares then they move around and can injure themselves
 
really? :/
it's plastic
 
@Abhishrek come to hangouts you lazy ass
 
poor fishes
 
4:41 PM
when you are in a car do you strap yourself in, or do you just let your body bounce around freely.
 
everybody ping shrek
 
that makes sense
 
@Neoares again, this isn't cruel to the fish. what is cruel is when you take them home and put them into a "fish bowl"
almost no fish should be in anything smaller than 10 us gallons
 
@rlemon I don't believe in seatbelts. If I'm gonna get in a crash, I don't want to walk away from the wreck.
 
!!convert 10 us gallons to liter
 
4:42 PM
@Neoares Unidentified format; please see /help convert
 
37.5liters
 
that's big
 
have you never taken a piss in Canada?
 
no, what happens?
it freezes before it touches the floor?
 
on the top of every urinal it tells you how much water it uses
all of them in Canada say "1gal / 3.75lt"
 
4:43 PM
oh
 
:P
 
in spain we use always the international system
for every measure
 
@rlemon Here in the US, we utilize Freedom Units.
 
well, almost for everything
some tradicional things use some old system
 
in Canada we use metric, like the rest of the world. but we buy a LOT of stuff from the USA so most of it lists imperial units as well
 
4:44 PM
like screens
we use inches for screens
 
@Loktar HA!
 
is that from FO4 or something?
/me hasn't played it yet
 
I'm guessing from the comments that's on a porn site.
 
@Loktar :(
 
well yea, but the reference.
 
4:46 PM
yes
 
I haven't even been able to buy it yet.
 
WELL THE JOKE IS LOST NOW
:cries:
 
I just don't feel like investing a ton of time into it (FO4) tbh
 
it is fun
 
@Loktar You require more vespian gas.
 
4:47 PM
playing Dragons Dogma currently, and will be playing the shit out of Deserts of Kharak this week.
 
Sometimes I wish sc2 didn't consume my life so I could enjoy other games
dragon's dogma looks good
 
@Cereal yeah it's pretty good
But That oh man can't wait
I <3 Homeworld so much
 
Gearbox doe
I will never forgive gearbox for the shitfest that was the final boss of borderlands
Spend the entire fucking game looking for a vault
jknovault
jkbossdoesntevendropanything
 
I played borderlands for like an hour
 
I got 100% completion
 
4:49 PM
knew I wouldn't enjoy the series and never did again lol
 
I refuse to touch the second one
Because fuck gearbox
 
@Cereal At least you can say that you can stomp the crap out of scrubs in a 2 v 1 without breaking a sweat.
 
someone here plays warframe?
 
@Trasiva There were at least 4 moments where I thought I lost those
 
@Cereal if only @Trasiva would have upgraded his zealots :p
 
4:51 PM
Man, the ending to the first Borderlands, I literally took the game out to my back yard and shot it to pieces.
 
Do we have any other advantage of Promise object apart from invoking callback after the data is received from some remote program?
 
@Loktar or made anything but zealots
 
I was like ugh why aren't those zealots charged! lol
HAHAH that too
 
@overexchange error handling.
 
-3
Q: what does the ! mean in Angular? i.e $scope.selected = !$scope.selected;

Seamus O ConnorI was wondering what does the ! actually mean in this method $scope.toggleSelected = function () { $scope.selected = !$scope.selected; }; I understand it's allowing me to set a selected item and it won't work without it but what exactly is the ! for?

 
4:51 PM
@Loktar Oh yea, blame my poor suicide runners. :(
 
but.. I can't say I did any better
 
Whoa, whoa whoa.
Hold the damn phone.
 
@FlorianMargaine congrats
 
I'm pretty sure my zealots would have mopped him if I'd have remembered the tech tree.
 
4:52 PM
first time or what?
 
Charge makes all the difference for the poor guys. :(
 
@Trasiva yeah once he goes roaches you it's time to retire the zealots
 
@Neoares Given he has a kid...
 
@Loktar Not in lotv
 
@Cereal oh yeah?
 
4:52 PM
They do 8 damage on impact now
+ their actual attack
 
Uh no. Charge zealots make roaches go sploosh
 
with charge
 
ahh nice
 
yes Promise object alow you to provide onsuccess callback and onerror callback using then
 
Funny, in the beta they made them do +42 damage on impact
that was fun
 
4:53 PM
lol wtf
 
Yeah. Next patch they were like "oops"
 
Basically, it's a smaller representation of what @Cereal did to us all night @Loktar.
 
what game are you talking about?
 
I could offrace and you guys would probably win
probably
 
I was just so slow. I should have went colossi
you were going all ground anyway
 
4:54 PM
@Loktar collo got nerfed to hell
Gotta go disrupters
 
lol too much has changed :p
@Neoares Starcraft 2
 
I need to play around with Adepts too.
 
I hear they're the bee's knees.
 
I actually won that game
 
4:56 PM
You;re crazy though. 300apm?
or was it 200?
 
@Cereal is good at StarCraft?
 
back when I knew how to play I think I would max at like 150 or so :/
@rlemon yea
 
@Loktar Like 320 in the first game
I think my highest was 450 or something in a zvt
 
hah
 
@Loktar I didn't realize he was a 9 year old Korean
:P
 
4:57 PM
that is so damn crazy @Cereal
@rlemon lol
7 actions per second...
wtf.
 
@rlemon Cereal is like that kid you know is probably going to win, but destroys you in such an awful way you have to drink to make yourself feel better.
 
The calculations are all skrewy though. Blizzard changed the in-game timer to be real time
So like replay sites still report old apm, in game is real time
 
nahh
people that good at games I like playing
I'm not mad you killed me in ten seconds
 

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