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7:00 PM
vsync, is that a thing anymore?
 
@rlemon I thought those were implementation-dependent?
@JanDvorak always, yes. It's kind of important.
 
@JanDvorak yes
 
@ssube idk. Chrome seems to be locking me into 4ms smallest.
 
the spec says 4ms
 
@rlemon that's interesting, cause Windows doesn't guarantee accuracy below 10ms
 
7:00 PM
@JanDvorak Get a 120FPS monitor
 
even the media timers don't always guarantee that kind of accuracy
 
@ssube nvm that has changed.
console.time('timer');
setTimeout(console.timeEnd.bind(console, 'timer'), 1);
timer: 1.120ms
 
Quick question: is it possible (by browsers) to store large amounts (200MB+) of data on a user pc without him having to click on a confirmation box each time? Preferably in the documents folder so a user could open it using another application more easily.
 
@KendallFrey how do I tell if my monitor is 120FPS?
 
(Do >60Hz monitors affect browser render timing? idk)
 
7:01 PM
@paul23 not without a pre-installed extension
 
@paul23 yes; just set a larger cache
 
@JanDvorak looks at the specs
 
@Loktar might know ^^^^
 
@JanDvorak I can save to the documents folder on your pc without confirmation?
no.
 
the general options are 60, 120 and 144
 
7:02 PM
Mmm, no, monitors refresh rates are hardware
They wouldn't affect anything done by the computer
 
@JoshLeBlanc they do
 
Iiii don't believe you
 
@JoshLeBlanc That doesn't really make sense
 
the system will throttle itself after negotiating a refresh rate with the monitor
 
@rlemon Hmm so implementing a "open last opened document" and "ctrl+s" is near impossible?
 
7:02 PM
Is vertical sync default on operating systems?
 
Because what's the point of 144Hz if the computer only does 60?
 
@ssube that's actually wrong. Simpler games run over 200fps on my box even though my monitors is 60hz only
 
@paul23 think of the security vulnerabilities there
 
@JoshLeBlanc That's not an OS thing
 
@tereško orly?
 
7:03 PM
@KendallFrey Screens do interpolation
 
@paul23 I hope not, that would be stupid
 
@tereško that's the game, though
the windows desktop display device renders at the monitor's refresh rate, or tries to
 
@KendallFrey ANY expensive screen does that, it's implemented in the hardware of the screen
 
games internal processing of 200 frames doesn't mean the rendering engine can handle 200 frames
 
it's per-device (in the d3d device sense, not the hardware sense)
 
7:04 PM
@paul23 Are you saying there's no such thing as a 144Hz game?
 
@rlemon they often can, the display device will simply drop any frames (buffer swaps) that wouldn't be shown anyway
 
@rlemon no, 200 means that the game's engine IS rendering 200 frames
 
@ssube I'm moreso thinking the engine driving it
like when MS was processing a full 60fps but rendering half of that
so your internal testing would show 60fps, but it really wasn't
 
@KendallFrey no? I have a tv screen that has 1500 Hz framerate. It uses interpolation to add more frames (and gives much smoother motion of -say- a scrolling line or scrolling text, enabling you to actually read fast scrolling text).
 
@tereško game engine !== rendering engine
 
7:06 PM
@paul23 1500 Hz framerate? Do you mean 150?
even that is overkill
 
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@JanDvorak no dude. He is forrealz totes srsly
 
@rlemon "rendering engine" is what browsers have
 
@tereško yes. are you keeping up :P your game engine might process at 60fps with RaF but the browsers rendering engine can kill that easily.
 
@paul23 But if there's no more information than 60 frames per second, the display isn't going to be significantly better.
 
actually nope, 1500 :) - and I actually saw a difference when it was on display and compared to a 150 Hz screen. You can't pinpoint it but it's like smoothing done with subpixels in modern fonts.
 
7:07 PM
IE did it with IE10 iirc.
 
@KendallFrey Like I said: motion feels much more smooth.
 
@rlemon but you re not
 
yea, you've lost me. I was making a completely different point.
 
@paul23 Hardware interpolation sounds like a terrible idea. Do you have a link or something to back you up?
 
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Q: How to use ESLint with Jest

RetsamI'm attempting to use the ESLint linter with the Jest testing framework. Jest tests run with some globals like jest, which I'll need to tell the linter about; but the tricky thing is the directory structure, with Jest the tests are embedded with the source code in __tests__ folders, so the dir...

 
7:09 PM
How does value passing work in JS by reference or value?
 
@Rick Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
If I had 144Hz monitor, I would be furious if I couldn't actually send 144 frames in one second to it
@Rick parameters are by value, always
 
@Rick It's pass by object
 
@rlemon ty
 
^ Posted that question over the weekend; no luck so far, if anyone has eslint/jest experience.
 
7:09 PM
@KendallFrey @paul23 Monitors don't do interpolation, they just cancel a refresh halfway through and start on the next one. That's why you get image tearing if the monitor and display device have out-of-sync refresh rates.
 
@MadaraUchiha Thanks, I didn't know that jQuery could be used with AMD. It is just perfect.
 
There is two options reference or value not object?
 
@Rick JS is value
 
@Rick rephrase
 
Motion interpolation or Motion-Compensated Frame Interpolation (MCFI) is a form of video processing in which intermediate animation frames are generated between existing ones by means of interpolation, in an attempt to make animation more fluid and to compensate for display motion blur. == Hardware applications == === Displays === Motion interpolation is a common, optional feature of various modern display devices such as HDTVs and video players, aimed at increasing perceived framerate and/or alleviating display motion blur, a common problem on LCD flat-panel displays. === Difference ...
 
7:10 PM
Note that sometimes those values are references to objects
 
it passes object references by value
 
Actually the screen I have isn't listed there, but you can see it has a rated FPS of 960 there (and it's outdated)
 
What about primitives?
 
these are immutable, so doesn't matter
 
Screens have an internal buffer for the displays to do this btw.
Motion interpolation or Motion-Compensated Frame Interpolation (MCFI) is a form of video processing in which intermediate animation frames are generated between existing ones by means of interpolation, in an attempt to make animation more fluid and to compensate for display motion blur. == Hardware applications == === Displays === Motion interpolation is a common, optional feature of various modern display devices such as HDTVs and video players, aimed at increasing perceived framerate and/or alleviating display motion blur, a common problem on LCD flat-panel displays. === Difference ...
(is there a way to make it not spammy to ping two people?)
 
7:13 PM
yes, ping two people
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher hey
 
just at them both
 
user1596138
Motion interpolation or Motion-Compensated Frame Interpolation (MCFI) is a form of video processing in which intermediate animation frames are generated between existing ones by means of interpolation, in an attempt to make animation more fluid and to compensate for display motion blur. == Hardware applications == === Displays === Motion interpolation is a common, optional feature of various modern display devices such as HDTVs and video players, aimed at increasing perceived framerate and/or alleviating display motion blur, a common problem on LCD flat-panel displays. === Difference ...
 
@Jhawins ?
 
Motion interpolation or Motion-Compensated Frame Interpolation (MCFI) is a form of video processing in which intermediate animation frames are generated between existing ones by means of interpolation, in an attempt to make animation more fluid and to compensate for display motion blur. == Hardware applications == === Displays === Motion interpolation is a common, optional feature of various modern display devices such as HDTVs and video players, aimed at increasing perceived framerate and/or alleviating display motion blur, a common problem on LCD flat-panel displays. === Difference ...
 
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7:14 PM
@rlemon I thought the more people pinged with this the more right @paul23 would be
 
no
 
Motion interpolation or Motion-Compensated Frame Interpolation (MCFI) is a form of video processing in which intermediate animation frames are generated between existing ones by means of interpolation, in an attempt to make animation more fluid and to compensate for display motion blur. == Hardware applications == === Displays === Motion interpolation is a common, optional feature of various modern display devices such as HDTVs and video players, aimed at increasing perceived framerate and/or alleviating display motion blur, a common problem on LCD flat-panel displays. === Difference ...
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
 
stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
7:14 PM
@Jhawins hey buddy
 
we would banhammer a noob for spamming.
 
user1596138
halt
 
HAMMERZEIT!
 
HAMMAHTIME!
 
7:15 PM
HAMMAHTIME! -- bitch beat me to it
 
user1596138
@rlemon Well it wasn't just me...
 
user1596138
SISTITE
 
MALLEUS TEMPUS!
 
user image
6
 
ok im done lol
 
7:15 PM
it's distributed spamming AKA chat trains
 
user1596138
Chat net
 
Ugh, what's the best way to get a decent idea what the type of an object is? typeof seems to never be quite helpful
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher Random ping. I have nothing important
 
user1596138
@corvid What type are you checking
 
7:16 PM
@corvid how isn't it helpful?
 
It's thundering outside and I didn't bring an umbrella
fuck
 
@corvid instanceof or typeof
 
@corvid .constructor.name
 
@JanDvorak lol
good troll bro
 
user1596138
7:17 PM
@SterlingArcher Hold on I'm bringing it to you
 
@SterlingArcher Spoiler: Umbrellas don't protect against thunder very well
2
 
@KendallFrey he has a special sound umbrella
 
@KendallFrey A metal one that flows into the ground might do well!
 
Spoiler: thunder isn't going to hurt you. Lightning is.
 
Because I do typeof mything and it will give me object. Then I use mything instanceof Array and it returns true
 
7:17 PM
Personal faraday's cage!
 
@paul23 not against thunder
 
@corvid typeof obj === 'Array'
 
@rlemon Spoiler: It might if it's loud enough
 
a thunder of dragons could hurt you
 
But I want to know it without guessing in a more definitive way
 
7:18 PM
@KendallFrey pics or didn't happen
 
uh isn't thunder the electricity? Like in pokemon you have a thunderbolt?
Pokemon = my english education
 
@paul23 no
 
@paul23 no, pokemon is dumb
 
@SterlingArcher who measures dragons in thunders?
@KendallFrey YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW
 
Any good talks about ES6 and what to be aware of?
 
7:19 PM
!!youtube wat talk
 
@corvid well then, your thing is probably an array
 
@JanDvorak That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
Horses creep me out
 
good
 
7:20 PM
@ssube it's a christopher paolini reference
 
function typeOf(input) {
	switch( input ) {
		case( typeof input === 'number' ):
			return 'Number';
		break;
		case( typeof input === 'string' ):
			return 'String';
		break;
		case( Array.isArray(input) ):
			return 'Array';
		break;
		// add as many checks as you need :P
		default:
			return 'Object';
		break;
	}
}
I win!
 
that will be some side-effect heavy code
 
Christopher Paolini is dead
 
@Shmiddty nevah!
 
7:26 PM
he died
 
I cannot find news on it
 
no eragon 2 movie
oh no
 
eragon movie was terrible
 
pls
 
There was only one, thankfully.
 
7:26 PM
the books are amazing
the movie didn't even attempt to follow the books
terrible
 
I used to use the Eragon movie as my reference point for "bad adaptations". Then "The Last Airbender" happened.
 
I might have enjoyed the movie if I hadn't read the book
 
@Retsam please, Eragon was WAY WORSE than the last airbender
 
switch (Array.isArray(input) ? 'array' : typeof input){...}
 
any movie "based on Bible" sure counts as a bad adaptation
 
7:28 PM
I thought the last airbender was tolerable, seeing as how I never read the whatevers
 
@JanDvorak Prince of Egypt would like a word with you.
 
Eragon movie actually made me angry
 
no. Airbender was probably the worst movie I ever watched
 
also, the Super Mario Brothers movie
 
I like to pretend it doesnt exist
 
7:28 PM
@Retsam @JanDvorak Prince of Egypt was sweet
 
@JanDvorak but that was so cheesy it was entertaining
 
Deliver Us is the next song on my music play list, actually...
 
Hmmm any Lispers around?
 
As a fan of both The Last Airbender series, and a big fan of the Eragon books, The Last Airbender was much worse, both as an adaptation and as a movie.
 
@FlorianMargaine ^^
 
7:29 PM
OOooh I got a goal now: making learn to fly in pure HTML5/JS :)
 
I literally fell out of my chair laughing at the Pebble Dance in the Last Airbender.
 
I'm reading Practical Lisp and read this in the Variables section
 
@MadaraUchiha that'ss inssenssitive
 
> Each time a function is called, Lisp creates new bindings to hold the arguments passed by the function's caller. A binding is the runtime manifestation of a variable.
 
7:29 PM
I don't even remember the eragon movie, it was so bad. I blocked it out of memory
 
@Retsam you need a better chair
 
@Jhawins ?
 
I don't understand that description of a "binding", what does it mean?
 
@JanDvorak It was my roommate's. The only reason I was watching is because he was going to, and I couldn't let him do that alone.
 
@JanDvorak see I didn't see it like that. It was a mixture of terrible acting and corny set design that made that movie good/bad
 
7:30 PM
never saw the eragon movie
the book was the shit though
 
keep it that way
 
the book was good :(
 
was such a nerd as a kid
 
@nick there are 4-5 books depending on who you ask
 
5?
 
7:31 PM
i read em all
 
Am I correct to assume that "binding" is merely the setting of a variable in lexical scope?
 
first one was the most magical though
 
I never read brisingr
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum lol
 
7:31 PM
@JanDvorak yea, like "the stupids"
 
@Jhawins -_-
 
@Retsam I know there is a 4th mini offshoot book
I thought there was a 5th
 
Huh, didn't know that.
 
I've read every Inheritance Cycle book at least 10 times each
 
7:32 PM
@NickDugger inb4 that gets a Cap command
 
@KendallFrey POKEMON IS AWESOME OMG
 
it isn't part of the set technically.
actually come to think of it, it might be fan fiction
:/
 
Pokemon is bad
 
It is
@NickDugger fukoffm8
 
If you guys want a really good Fantasy book, you guys should read anything by Sanderson. Great stuff.
 
7:32 PM
good
 
brb soup before it pours
 
Hitchhikers is still a timeless read
 
fuck my life. did I just flag my own message for a MODERATOR?
duh touch screen
 
hitchhikers was the shit too
still is
 
7:33 PM
Yeah; I enjoyed the first Hitchhikers, but I got bored a ways into the second or third book.
 
Martin Freeman
 
It just kind of doesn't go anywhere and the jokes are kind of same-y
 
Guys, how to unflag
 
I also wasn't hugely impressed by Dune, there's my controversial sci-fi opinion of the day.
 
7:35 PM
ok who was the guy that posted tvtropes?
I'm stuck now in 20 opened tabs having to read them all
 
Dune the book?
Dune, the film, was terrible. I enjoy it, but god, it's awful
 
@Retsam Go read 2001 by A Clarke
 
@NickDugger Yeah.
 
dune the book was the shit
everything was the shit imo
 
Ehh; Paul was a completely uninteresting protagonist for me. I preferred his father as a main character, really
 
7:38 PM
read anything by Anne Rice.
she is amazing
by far my favorite author
 
her bondage stuff is especially inaccurate great
 
> Anne Rice (born Howard Allen Frances O'Brien; October 4, 1941) is an American author of gothic fiction, Christian literature, and erotica.
One of these things is not like the others...
 
@ssube bondage is a different beast when you're a witch/wizard or a vampire
 
Wow
Christian Erotica
 
@rlemon is it that different for witches/wizards? For vampires, sure.
 
7:40 PM
theres a fetish for everything
 
> he hugged her so christianly
 
hnnng
 
@ssube yea, when I can turn your ropes into dildos by thinking about it...
 
@NickDugger Reading the wiki page it's not. She used to write Christian stuff, then she distanced herself from organized religion and started writing erotica.
 
Nah, my version of the story is better
 
7:40 PM
most of her work is in gothic fiction
vampires and witches
 
and christian erotica
 
user1596138
!!^
 
The Vampire Chronicles, and the Lives of the Mayfair Witches sold her most copies iirc
 
the chain of authors that led to 50 shades is a surprisingly good summation of our culture. Anne Rice started writing fanfic (before it was an internet thing) of real vampire stories, then whatsername wrote Twilight as a fanfic of Interview/Queen, then 50 shades was a fanfic of Twilight
and now everything is ruined
 
7:42 PM
Her first christian erotica novel: "Cute Christian Cosplayers Cuddle Christianly"
 
you had me at cosplay
 
OMG SHE HAS A NEW BOOK!
aaand it is erotica
:(
 
@ssube yeah, it's pretty hilarious.
 
!!youtube christian side hug
 
anyone want to plan a room trip to a christian summer camp for sexually repressed young adults?
 
Hi everyone. Is anyone free to help me out with a problem? :) Kinda new with JS and trying to solve something which doesn't seem to work at all :(
 
@nTuply Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
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Q: How to change header font and nav link color when slideshow image changes

nTuplyI have a fixed header and I have a slideshow just behind it. Basically the header has a transparent background and it's just text over the slideshow. Now I'm trying to change the color of my header font(which includes my nav) color when the image of my slider changes. The problem I'm having is th...

 
@ssube 50 Shades was a rip-off of Story of O
 
Here's the question(above) Thanks in advance :) Oops
 
7:44 PM
Probably the only erotic fiction worth reading.
 
@Meredith please finish brisingr and inheritance, they are really good and the ending is amazing
 
Wait there's one after brisingr too?
 
I only read the first 2 and half of the third book
 
I read the blue one and the red one
 
I'm surprised no one has come in with the "omg Eragon sucks, it's just a rip off of Star Wars" opinion yet. That seems to be the majority opinion on the internet.
 
7:47 PM
Eragon sucks too much to even resemble Star Wars, plus Star Wars has the most generic plot ever.
 
How is eragon a ripoff of star wars? I'm pretty sure there were no dragons in star wars
 
So everything resembles Star Wars and nobody cares.
 
Pretty sure star wars doesnt even have a plot
 
@Meredith it does, there are spaceships.
 
Star Wars (the good three) had an awesome plot.
Such epic movies.
 
7:47 PM
TIL: You don't really appreciate Google Chrome's "recent tabs from other devices" until you suddenly need a toilet break while reading TVTropes.
 
The plot is essentially just spaceships.
 
And space swords
 
@JanDvorak take laptop with you.
@ssube well, not really.
 
@Meredith yeah it's 4 books
 
You can reduce every show with spaceships to that.
Doesn't do anything justice.
 
7:48 PM
I'm not interested in justice, not when I have spaceships.
 
It's not a trilogy, how could it be compared to star wars?
 
We don't need justice, this is space.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum 90% of the time would be spent repainting eeeverything on the smaller screen
 
Oh the last one came out in 2011
 
I like it, because it teaches tolerance and respect
Like, how Eragon hates the Urgals so much because he doesn't understand them. But then he gets sent out with a Kull and learns so much about them, and learns they aren't hateful monsters, they're just a species bred upon war, and war is how they prove themselves to their mates
It's really a good metaphor for how humans fear what they don't understand
 
7:50 PM
@NickDugger Seeming orphan, living with his uncle a farmer, until he discovers he's a member of a extinct order of multi-species magic-wielding peacekeepers. Then the evil Empire comes and kills his uncle and burns down his home, and he leaves with a mysterious mentor who is also a member of that same order. Along the way he rescues a princess leader of the rebellion who has been kidnapped by the Empire. The story ends with him joining the rebellion and becoming a hero in a battle.
 
Nah
 
Literally nobody gives a shit if it resembles star wars
 
@SterlingArcher so beautiful
 
@SterlingArcher fucking spoilers :(
 
@Meredith This is so not true. I don't care that it resembles Star Wars, but just try saying good things about Eragon on /r/fantasy for example. (Trust me, I've tried it)
 
7:52 PM
It's been 4 years and didn't even spoil anything important lol
 
bastard
 
It's like saying snape kills dumbledore is still a spoiler. If you haven't read it by now, you're SOL xD
 
Well I don't want to be mean but the kinds of people on /r/fantasy are probably the kinds of people to get upset over stupid things
 
what?????????
 
@Meredith Turns out, that's 95% of the internet.
 
7:53 PM
:L
 
@Retsam so, every science fiction story ever?
 
pls
if you like scifi check out the quantum thief
 
I'm almost done with the 5th game of thrones book
 
kinda newish series
pretty great, cried a bit
 
I cried (not like, weep, like a couple tears) when I watched Odd Thomas a couple weeks ago
 
7:55 PM
@SterlingArcher Have you seen the show?
 
First time a non-book has ever made me tear up
 
Or are you just reading the books
 
@Meredith just the books, haven't seen a single episode yet
 
Oh
I'm the opposite i guess
 
My coworkers have seen it all, and when they ask me where I'm at they're pretty shocked on how accurate the show is to the books
We've determined that thus far, the show is about 97% accurate to the books
 
7:56 PM
BTW, if you like SciFi, I recommend reading "Lost Fleet". It's really good military science fiction.
 
My amazon wishlist is getting big :(
 
Yeah I have a friend who reads the books and he says the same thing
Except you don't see tyene's boobs in the books
 
I'm not sure who Tyene is
 
boobs are good
 
One of the sand snakes
 
7:58 PM
ohhhhh the dornish girl
 
@Meredith You uhh, don't see any of the boobs in the books.
 
brb transformice
 
That's the only time it matters though
 
I'm really sad that ASoIaF is the fantasy series that got super popular...
 
you want a really good read? chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/product/…
 
7:59 PM
(Well, other than LoTR, obviously)
 
Yeah real talk the writing is pretty terrible
 

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