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4:01 PM
!!define windshield wiper
 
@SufiDeveloper [windshield wiper](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki?curid=88875) (automotive, US, Canada) a device used to clear rain and dirt from a windshield; normally a pivoting arm with a rubber blade


Using her hands like windshield wipers, she tried to flick snow away from her mouth. When she clawed at her chest and neck, the crumbs maddeningly slid back onto her face. She grew claustrophobic.
 
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@SterlingArcher Wut are you doing
 
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AddMeth
 
Dude it gets better
 
posted on August 07, 2014 by kbironneau

/* by Astrea */

 
4:03 PM
void myMeth() {
    for (int i =0; i<10; i++) {
        if (i == 5) return;
        System.out.println();
    }
}
They really dropped the ball on this whole meth fiasco
 
Purchased word-of-mouth. Hire someone to be a walking ad and ride up and down in the elevators of tall buildings, stand at bus stops, wait at train stations, hang around in coffee shops and strike up conversations with strangers. "Have you tried that new deli over on 4th street? It's awesome." Sounds nuts, I know, but it works.
@ziGi Do you think it would be a good idea to hire someone as in the text above to promote your product or business?
 
@Jhawins learning Java cause my boss told me to
We're upgrading from ColdFusion to Java
 
hmm is that an upgrade?
 
"Upgrading"?
 
upgrade your software! Just AddMeth
 
4:06 PM
more like a lateral move
 
lmao
Trust me. If you've ever done logical programming that looks like HTML, java is definitely an uprade
 
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!!lol
 
@Jhawins All commands forgotten.
 
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WUT
 
4:06 PM
LOL
 
@mikedidthis wow
thats awesome support
 
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Hahahahaha that's a good one
 
!!help lol
 
@Cereal lol: User-taught command: All commands forgotten.
 
@Loktar I know, its not even my fiddle :D
 
4:07 PM
lol thats awesome
 
@Jhawins it did work though. I lol'd pretty damn hard
 
@SufiDeveloper I can't tell, heaven't tried but it must be well oriented for the target group
Hey I am really baffled by this can anyone help
 
@ziGi I get that. So let's say that I hire a guy to go to universities as a normal student, to a bar where many young and middle aged people can be found, and tell him to talk about my product/site/business like he's just talkative or want to make friends.

That should work in theory no?
 
yes
depends whether the product is intended for those people
 
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!!> console.table(({"jhawins":{"firstName":"Josiah","lastName":"Ladythumper","age":1‌​9,"eyeColor":"brown"},"jordan":{"firstName":"Jordan","lastName":"Ladylumper","age‌​":23,"eyeColor":"brown"}}))
 
4:12 PM
@Jhawins "TypeError: console.table is not a function"
 
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What a douche
 
It's a Chrome feature, AFAIK
 
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if it is Dr. Livine-s knee warmers it won't be interesting for those people
 
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I didn't know this existed ^
 
4:12 PM
@SufiDeveloper hah thats a good idea wth
 
What would you expect it to show inside a WebWorker anyway?
 
but.. a bit odd too if thats all he talks about
 
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@SomeGuy I was curious. I knew it wouldn't be right haha
 
@ziGi Ya sure, would be something like Facebook or Reddit
 
> That dude over there is trying to get me to go to this fucking website where you learn to play Jenga
> Thats all he talks about such a weirdo
 
4:13 PM
@SufiDeveloper haha sure
you can try with a control group of people let's say 100 and see how much of them actually check it
then try 5 different places
and compare procentages
it also depends on the time
when the guy tells them this
people are gonna be more inclined during the day
or like around 5-6 IMO rather than in the evening around 10
or in the morning
Can anyone tell me why this doesn't behave properly
 
@Loktar Hahaha that surely is not something I want to happen xD I mean, he would talk about normal shit every guy talks about, but then he would insert this product/business in his talk and get away with it after a few minutes so that it looks like a "normal" discussion.
 
I am getting really irritated
 
@SufiDeveloper Yeah, not a bad idea
But it won't really work if your product isn't actually interesting
 
@ziGi Yup. That's what I've been thinking about
 
haha I am in your head bro, in your head :D
 
4:17 PM
hahaha I told you we could be the same person from parallel dimensions :D
@SomeGuy Maybe, but worth a try
 
Yeah, it'd be interesting to see
 
I should read a little more about persuasion. Just know the basics
Maybe it can be extended to have random guys give also a flyer
 
haha I'd totally do the same
 
@ziGi Heck :D
We should definitely team up
 
here is my earlier problem, look for caps lock comments left aligned: pastebin.com/BnHjhPWL
 
4:22 PM
the Data shit does some problem
@SufiDeveloper haha still waiting for the VPS stuff
 
@ziGi Oh yeah I was so busy with the project that didn't finish checking up for one! I'll be looking for one this night :P
 
@theHeretic is there an error ?
 
@ziGi watch your language, young man.
 
@SufiDeveloper yeah I want to have it set uped before saturday to get my askzigi.com live
@Shmiddty yeah sorry
 
4:24 PM
but there is no audio. unless I comment out the line causing the problem, which will give an error if I don't also comment out the lines that make the visualizer.
 
I just say sh*t when I don't remember the name of something
 
@ziGi don't
 
@ziGi Wot? You have an askzigi.com and didn't tell me? xD Anyway cool I'll have found one before saturday :)
 
sorry slip of the thongue
 
Yes I do the same as zigi
 
4:25 PM
at work my boss talks about shit a lot so I get that from him, sorry
@SufiDeveloper yeah :D
I have planned it for a long time
 
@ziGi haha can you talk about it here man?
Maybe your site fits well for my software platform
 
haha how so?
 
@mikedidthis thanks!
 
Oh but Sufi it's not something I have developed, it's just WordPress with some plugins
 
@SomeGuy I shall fetch the duck
 
4:27 PM
how so? you have an ask in the url so maybe it's something where people ask to you for things?
Yeah I know, but my software is something like Stack Overflow and Reddit ya know
 
@Zirak You're late. I fetched a duck myself
 
@SufiDeveloper many people ask me and I don't have time
I answer a lot
but when I have time
so if I have it there in a queue I can manage them better
 
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Who's used Cordova||PhoneGap?
 
Me
 
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Worth the time it saves?
 
4:30 PM
It was for me, yeah
 
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Anything stick out that made you want to stab the creators?
 
Hi Guys
 
I don't know much Java, and I don't like what I do know
 
What if I just go to sleep now...
 
@ziGi Oh yeah got it :) I could also make a askzigi.mysite.com and have more views. Or maybe that's a bad idea don't know :D
 
4:31 PM
How are you guys...
 
@SufiDeveloper haha sure if you want to
 
@Jhawins Not the creator's fault, but all articles I found were for older versions, and parts of it were incorrect
 
we can integrate it
 
A suggestion, don't buy domains from Godaddy ;)
 
just that people can see answers to common problems
 
4:31 PM
Sure, I know many sponsors here in Italy :)
 
and instead of having StackOverflow riddled
 
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The app I'm doing is simple. Just reading and displaying data from RESTful api I'm setting up. And push notifications. That's about it.
 
I can filter good and bad questions and just discard the bad ones or improve them through communication with the person
 
Cool :)
 
Firefox sucks.....attach button is not working in gmail...with firefox....any idea to fix this FF version 31
 
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4:32 PM
So I think actually going native is... Stupid. There's no benefit to be had.
 
which is much more useful than wasting my time on SO
 
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And I have to do iOS and Android so fuck it.
 
also I am not making it for popularity but for people that appreciate my help
 
Setting it up might be a pain
 
@ziGi Yeah good idea. I'm actually implementing a spam and quality filter that sends bad question to a page we call "Bin".
 
4:32 PM
If you're on Windows, make sure you use Git Bash
 
@SomeGuy what anime is that again? With the senpai and the pervy.
 
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@SomeGuy I think I'll use Appery.io
 
@SufiDeveloper oh that's good, we can talk about the algorithm when you have time
 
Haven't tried that
 
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That's what I've started with so far. It's nice-ish. PhoneGap is kinda like the WP of apps to me
 
4:33 PM
@ziGi Sure. I'm doing it in Lua, but if that's a problem I can switch to C and load it as a module from Lua
 
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Appery uses Cordova. And they do push services as well as android affordably.
 
haha Lua's not that hard
 
ok, I got a fix but it requires having two arrays of all the sound.
 
the filtering is important
 
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VERY affordably
 
4:34 PM
it's most likely mix of regex
 
@ziGi Well maybe you didn't like it :D
 
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With no ads or anything else to worry about.. Eh. I'm just gonna go for it.
 
@SufiDeveloper I didn't like what?
 
Lua
Regex may be slow in Lua but yeah. I'm doing it the most statically way possible
 
isn't there regex in Lua?
 
4:37 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum no problem. Thank jsbin! :D
 
There are "patterns" which aren't that powerful, but I know how to replace regex with them anyway. Then there is the external component called "lpeg" which are full-blown regex for Lua written in C, but I'm trying to keep the software as slim as possible.
 
that's a cautionary tale
 
ok I see
 
How so zigi?
 
4:38 PM
it doesn't matter
I mean this is a cautionary tale -> youtube.com/watch?v=wr15YOlZfuY
 
Ah yeah I got it
That's true
 
watch it when you have time
 
Doing it now :)
Giving is the best communication.
That's what most of the people aren't, unfortunately
 
yep
 
There is a video by Jack Vale where they act as homeless people and guess who gave them money? Yes, another homeless guy. Many "regular" people swear as they pass by.
 
4:45 PM
yeah
I've seen it
 
your gravatar looks like pixel boobs
 
@AbhishekHingnikar This is how I feel now i.imgur.com/zeilmUX.jpg
 
you avatar looks like the gay guy from archer
 
@ziGi Yeah, that's sad.
@SterlingArcher Thought it was a "w" :P
 
@SomeGuy haha how does that help
 
4:46 PM
Sorry, I can't hear your over my tinnitus
 
It's a identicon I generated from garbage text
!!s/your/you/
 
@SufiDeveloper Sorry, I can't hear you over my tinnitus (source)
 
It's pixel boobs
 
One time I gave €50 to a homeless guy, no double thinking.
 
@Meredith obvi
 
4:47 PM
@ziGi We don't manage to get much sleep
 
Altough I should've gave him food.
 
@SomeGuy ah yes, it's true
I sleep 4-5 hours max and I don't dream
which is good
 
@SufiDeveloper statistically speaking you bought that homeless man drugs
 
I used to sleep 8-9 hours. Now I get 6-7 hours, and it sucks
 
There's a woman outside my metro station who has been pregnant for 4 months now and hasn't gained a pound.
 
4:48 PM
Pretty much. Homeless people aren't interested in food.
 
@SterlingArcher Yeah, that was my mistake and I was new to this city. I should've gave him food and if he was honestly homeless he wouldn't have denied.
 
what the hell... I only allocated 2gb of ram to this W7 VM yet my computer is completely freezing up... what on earth is my other 6gb of ram doing D:
 
Yeah; I really hate that there's probably 10-30% of people asking for money who are actually genuine, but they don't get much money because of the other 70-90% who aren't.
 
Sadly yes.
 
There was an issue here a while back where people would pay homeless people to beg
 
4:51 PM
@SterlingArcher we have heard about that at least twice
 
@Meredith wait what?
 
But if you observe them good enough you've got the ability to assume who's genuine and not, which you gain in a city like this.
 
@ziGi it's relevant
 
Yeah like "I'll give you minimum wage and you'll give me everything people give you"
 
still, if you had a blog where you explained that you could have just linked
now you have data repetition
 
4:52 PM
I remember being asked by a guy wanting money to get a train ticket to pick up his daughter... who looked visibly disappointed when I pulled out a reloadable train card that still had some money on it.
 
@Meredith I can easily see that going way downhill.
 
I sent an email to Tom Cruise today
 
@Retsam Was he gipsy?
@ziGi lolwut serious?
 
haha yeah
I have a 5 pages script written exactly what he would like
so I decided to give it a go and see if they are gonna reply me
 
@ziGi Nah; Chicago, don't think we get many Gypsies.
 
4:54 PM
5 page script?
 
yeah
 
That's a short sounding movie
 
it's just an outliner
no there are no details
 
hahaha let me know everything
 
that's just the main idea
 
4:54 PM
Oh bro... no...
 
@Retsam Oh ok, I thought it was like here
 
well actually the idea is really cool
I told it to like 5-6 people
and they really liked it
 
I'm sure Tom Cruise is just dying to get some unsolicited movie ideas.
 
and now Tom Cruise is on the highway to patentville with your superscript
 
Well to solve any doubt just give food, nothing else.
 
4:55 PM
@SterlingArcher you do realize I haven't shared it yet
 
Celebrities are famedrunk
 
true
 
@SufiDeveloper I dont give anything anymore. All the homeless around my work are rude and most of them aren't even homeless or are homeless by choice
 
but it doesn't matter if they make a good movie out of it and I can benefit a bit
why not
 
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i have to interview three people tomorrow, i hate interviewing
 
4:56 PM
Yes, just try it :P You won't lose anything
 
@xxx I can help you alex
 
@ziGi you gotta stand above the crowd. Think of how many people want to send their ideas to tom cruise alone
And I doubt you have Tom's personal email address
 
no idea
not really
I wrote to the HR departament
 
@SterlingArcher Yeah I understand you.
 
but maybe, just maybe
if everyone thinks like you Archer then no one would send, will they
so it's never harm to try, right?
at least you learn one way how not to do it
 
4:58 PM
Besides, any creative industry, ideas just aren't that valuable.
 
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LOLOLOLOL
 
Only way I would see is if Tom went to a tv show and you got to be there too. You could ask him personally. My girlfriend went on a tv show and there actually was one actor sat next to her, she didn't care xD
He didn't had any bodyguard
 
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People that think they can pitch an idea like a movie, or a tshirt design, or a logo to a company out of the blue.... And then just profit off someone else doing it.. These people kill me XD
 
Ideas are a dime a dozen; it's having the actual ability to execute those ideas (not to mention the funding) that's actually rare.
 
You don't need funding to execute an idea.
 
4:59 PM
@Jhawins at least they are not sitting in a chat room telling others how much they suck but do something
 
@ziGi Hey, some of us multitask.
 
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This guy was convinced he was going to get rich by pitching Mossy Oak a print design. That's about the equivalent of pitching Tom Cruise a movie idea out of the blue with no qualifications or connects.
 
@Retsam yeah but that's why kickstarters work, cause good ideas with proper execution give results cause people want them
 
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@ziGi Oh yeah, that's what I'm doing. Totally haven't been doing my job for 90% of the day ;)
 
Saying "pitching a random idea to Tom Cruise is a terrible waste of time" in a chat room and "doing something" aren't mutually exclusive.
 
5:01 PM
I spent a total of ~€75 for my past business and got €12.000 out of that before stopping. So that's like near-zero funding if you look from a long-run perspective.
 
time = money
 
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@SufiDeveloper Was your business plan to pitch Tom Cruise your dream from last night?
 
& money = business efficience
 
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!!afk XD this shit kills me
 
@SufiDeveloper Sure, there are ways to make money without prior funding; but in the context of trying to execute a creative project? You're going to need funding.
 
5:02 PM
Sure, it depends on what project we're talking about. But it can be said that most of them don't potentially need a prior funding from the sole ideator.
 
75 Eu-fun-bucks plus many many hours, I suspect.
 
Yeah, I was specifically talking about creative industry.
 
@Jhawins Nope
 
@Jhawins of course
 
@xxx Someone likes Trello.
 
5:04 PM
Luggage It took me 4 months yes. And other 3 months to design the flyers.
 
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@Luggage i have never used it. i just like the icon
 
@Luggage Trello is goddamn amazing.
 
In that time I also got to learn marketing psychology anyway
 
@VeselinRomic Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
So saying 75 euros is quite misleading. It's not like you bought some stock and then sold it later and got money for nothing. I know I'm nitpicking, but..
@xxx ?!
 
5:05 PM
Have you guys hear this news that Mark Zuckerberg is Bulgarian?
I think it is false but someone made it famous
 
No one needs to sell me on Trello. I use it near-daily.
 
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Did you guys here Tom Petty is a man?
 
@Luggage Well, you can't really expect to earn big money from a day-work. You gotta put effort in that. The most funding you have to spend is time rather than money.
 
@SufiDeveloper That's my point, exactly.
 
@ziGi I also heard that he's Jewish
 
5:07 PM
he is
but we have saved many Jewish people during WW2 although we have been on German side
 
Turkish diplomats have saved many Jewish people from Nazi persecution altough they're muslims and are thought to be in conflict.
 
yes it's about being humane
 
the only reason my country joined Germany cause Adolf promised all lost land back to us because
after the ottoman empire bulgaria has been scattered a lot
in smaller countries
 
Yeah
English did the same to Arabian people
 
5:10 PM
I am wondering how we still speak the same language after 500 years of trukish people
 
They promised to fight the Turks and establish a single Arab state
 
yep yep
lies
 
Who knows
Lies because of interests you know
 
Higher-ups just used the terms "rockstar" and "ninja" to describe who they're looking for in terms of hiring. :sigh: I hate those terms.
7
 
@RyanKinal Ouch. Especially "rockstar".
So you're looking for an employee who doesn't play well with others and will probably die of drug abuse?
 
5:17 PM
I understand the meaning of rockstar, but not ninja.
 
In the past I was starting to create a startup where marketing was done in a different way. Practically, you get people to promote ads on their clothes and they get paid based on how much time and how many ads they have on them.

My friend disagrees with idea and said it couldn't work. Do you think the same?
 
Heh, Facebook ain't save
You can even see private pictures if you want
The pictures, even private ones are stored on Akamai, without any kind of ACL or something
 
@RyanKinal Guy Idid work for recommended me for another project and described me as a "Rockstar developer".

What does that even mean...
 
You could potentially make a ton of money out of Facebook exploits
 
5:21 PM
where is the best place to build some jQuery apps/examples for free so I could show future prospects?
 
@JoJo Well you shouldn't be paying to build apps in the first place
 
@ziGi Should UPPERCASE TEXT be included in the filter?
 
@RyanKinal And "jedi"
 
i mean aside from hosting my own site to do it.. will stackoverflow or git do it?
 
@SufiDeveloper hah if more than 1 word after another is with Capital
or smth like that
 
5:23 PM
@JoJo jsfiddle is probably a better option.
 
@JoJo jsfiddle, or codepen immediately come to mind
 
okay thank you @Retsam I will check it out
okay codepen too, thanks
 
Yeah, that is annoying. I've thought about not posting the content and send the user a notification about his heavy use of them, so he can fix that and post it okay
 
@JoJo Another for CodePen; it's more for showcasing.
 
Great, both look amazing!
 
5:25 PM
@doingweb Yeah; I've always seen it as more for graphical projects than jQuery sort of stuff, but w/e
 
I wonder if the libraries in jsfiddle are sorted by popularity.. ?
nice it has angular too
anyone have a jsfiddle demo they can share?
 
Does anyone ever use underscores in header requests?
 
@jol
oops
@jolo What are you getting at? I don't understand your question. Can you rephrase?
 
@Retsam It's definitely geared more toward designers, but I'd say if you want to show off, it should look nice :)
 
whaat
public fiddles expire?
 
5:31 PM
they do?
can you reset the date?
 
> All anon fiddles created after July 26th are by now considered
spammy.. We will resurrect them after filtering out the 99% of real spam.
fuuu
 
Ouch.
If you create an account that's not an issue.
(And I don't know how I'd keep track of my fiddles if I didn't have an account)
 
Which is what I'm doing now
 
jsfiddle is for small samples and trying an idea. You don't want to 'host' anything there.
 
No, I was going to throw something I wrote to jojo, but it was gone
 
5:33 PM
(my opinion, of course)
 
Yes, which is good, a bunch of small samples that don't expire.. a good way to store your code too?
well maybe not.. lol
 
'store your code'? No.
I mean.. i guess it can, but I wouldn't store anythign I wanted to absolutely have in the future there
 
Basically, any of those online tools are nice for single page script-y things; but I wouldn't do full-blown web development or anything.
 
they are fantastic as teaching tools
CONFIGURATION:
1) Load this page
2) There is no step 2. Start coding
(I might also mention runnable.com here)
 
I've also used bootply.com for Bootstrap specific fiddling.
 
5:39 PM
ok NOW i need to start bookmarking all these links lol
 
My only cool thing I've done on jsfiddle is: jsfiddle.net/Retsam19/m6tZr
 
is there a return function for something like
`$(".spc tr:nth-of-type(n)")`
where I want to know n?
 
what do you mean 'return type'?
 
nice! pretty advanced a good way to showcase your talents!
 
ah nvm, found a problem with my logic
PEBCAK issue :(
 
5:43 PM
@ziGi Yeah i see that it works without datatables.
 
@Shoe also if you remove the tr before the last one with class it also works
 
@rodling We don't judge.
 
so I think something is screwing there but I don't know what
 
Take a look at this one that someone whipped up on one of the chats the other day
https://dotnetfiddle.net/MvcPage/4dc6d5f4dbb3435eb9bfa48a31b0e4e8
 
!!afk busy with C
 
5:56 PM
A good metric of the roughness of my code is probably how many times the phrase "for now" shows up in my comments...
 
Still beats not having comments at all.
 
I hardly ever write comments when I'm hacking something up
 
:)
 

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