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8:00 PM
Useful for 2 cases, maybe.
 
@Zirak this was a disaster. And this is only giving more visibility to bjb's uneducated stance which, as it is in bold and with an exclamation mark, appears as true for most readers...
 
Makes anyone who reads it go "wtf". A function would be better!
 
@MauriceBotha hi!
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 41 secs ago, by bjb568
If I had a diamond, I wouldn't get the downvotes.
that should make you feel better
 
derp.fallsBetween(x*0.95, x*1.05)
 
8:01 PM
Need help

http://jsfiddle.net/K2v7T/

the script doesn't work when placling it in the header
 
@Zirak well a ranged case is pretty common, but you're right a function is better.
 
Sorry, head tag
 
You can't use ± in a function name :/
 
○→δ
 
That would be a pain in the butt to call lol
 
8:05 PM
@KevinB bjb is a troll known for inciting pointless semantic arguments. — SomeKittens Ux2666 14 hours ago
 
I vote that we replace _ with ± on a keyboard
Underscores are no longer in fashion
 
Sorry, @nderscore
 
@Meredith dude I have to agree. I hate var this_varible_is_underscored_like_some_shit = 4
camelCase ftw
 
I was joking but honestly we don't need underscores anymore
 
@SterlingArcher lowcase ftw
 
8:08 PM
underscore.js will be sad
 
underscore.js can become ±.js
 
lol
 
@dystroy nuuuu i hate multi-worded variable names that are all lowercase
I always misread them lol
 
like "lowercase" ?
 
8:09 PM
lololol
 
dystroy wins this round with a humiliating knockout
4
 
crazy idea: let variable names have spaces in them
 
@dystroy ..fuck
 
No, that idea sucks
 
8:10 PM
well, in my defense I said variable names D:
 
var nick dugger sucks = true
 
@Zirak knockOut
 
How about, let variables be numbers!??
var 123 = "abc"
 
var 1337 = 'kittens'
 
that is stupid
 
8:11 PM
var 1 = 5;
 
lol, of course it is
 
How about, let variables be keywords!??
 
^ that would confuse the living hell out of me
 
var true = false
 
stop D:
 
8:11 PM
why not preprocessor commands?
 
> lets give the ability to over-ride primitives! sounds like a wonderful idea with no negative repercussions
 
I would never program again haha
 
var true = [false]
 
var if = while;
 
how so sterling?
 
8:12 PM
#define ZIRAK WELL_ENDOWED
 
var - = +
 
what the hell?
 
var false = true;
if (false === true) console.log("You win!");
You win!
 
am I the only one questioning my sanity right now?
 
function = void; // enjoy coding
 
8:12 PM
haha, you know that false is reserved, right?
 
Question is, if false = true, and true = false, what equals what?
 
That is exactly the context
 
we're ignoring him.
 
8:13 PM
@Zirak obviously true === true if first false = true
 
And who denies, it's what the fighting's all about
 
circular = logic = circular;
 
I forgot I can just click ignore on someone, lol
 
WHY
WHY WHY WHY D:
 
@NickDugger sure you can, I don't know why you don't do it
 
8:14 PM
var tautology = tautology;
 
Click on their avatar thing and click the bottom link
 
exactly
you can even ignor in all rooms
I joined actually for two reasons, to see if you guys are doing ok
and to ask something kind of stupid related to javascript and jsp
 
we are thank you for asking
 
guys if zigi promises to play nice, I think we can as well. given his history he must understand he's out of strikes, but if he has a legit js question / comment we should probably just let sleeping dogs lie
 
dont assume your question is stupid!
 
8:16 PM
ok, it's not stupid, just that I haven't worked with jsp much
 
That's a sign of good mental health
 
Me either, so I'm going to bug out for a minute
 
Except for the part where you have to work with jsp. That's not promising at all.
 
haha actually it is not for me
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 you can take my symbol, but you will never take my freedom!
 
8:17 PM
for a friend of mine but I was wondering
 
asking for a friend
 
haha :D
if you have a table in jsp with some prices
and you want to sum them
and put a summary on the bottom of the table
 
What do you mean in JSP ? In the Java part ?
 
JavaScriptPages
 
or do you mean an HTML table generated on your server side?
 
8:18 PM
usually in my opinion it should be done in the backend and just send it to the front end and put it as a last row, but I see many people do the summing in the javascript, so I was wondering why
HTML table generated from the server side
 
if all the prices have the same class, you can do it like..
 
yes
exactly the same, they are in a column
 
@zigi back end
so long as the information isn't dynamic
 
Dynamic data maybe? Just showing off? Being lazy? Not wanting to write another line of jsp?
 
nope
not dynamic
 
8:19 PM
then back end for sure
no need to muck with the DOM
 
Definitely back end.
 
but I saw some questions on stack overflow that people say it should be done by using javascript on the front-end which is kind of strange
those were one of the first results of the search I made
 
if the information is dynamic yes
if it isn't, then there is no point
 
The internet is frequently wrong and filled with bad advice.
 
If you did need to muck the DOM, give all the columns the same class, and iterate the parsed textContent
 
8:20 PM
yeah, I know, I work with ExtJS as I have mentioned before and we do front-end calculations for fields in a grid which are editable
 
!!s/(wrong|bad)/(right|good)/
 
@SterlingArcher The internet is frequently (right|good) and filled with bad advice. (source)
 
the only argument I can see for it is that you save a single set of calculations on the server and off-shoot them to the client. but that is a weak argument and only really viable (as an optimization) if you are serving huge amounts of users at once
 
I have to poop, but I don't want to poop at work, and there's only 40 minutes left in the work day. I'll hold it.
 
8:21 PM
ok, so thanks for the confirmation guys
very nice Nick Dugger, some people might be eating
:D
 
@NickDugger You lead a most interesting life.
 
@zigi he's just giving spoilers about what is going to happen to your food in a few hours.l
 
wtf? Poop at work and get paid jeeze.
 
kinda like a preview.
 
guys
Can I enable hidpi support in newest chrome?
 
8:23 PM
well, lemon, I have heard that people try to make their servers as light as possbile, that's why they put all possible calculations on the front end
 
the "normal" methods don't work but maybe you have some hack
 
@zigi that is pretty flawed thinking
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm on level 14 of that square game. It's hard, but I've been able to just stare at it for a few minutes, and figure it out in my head.
 
dude summing shouldn't kill your server
 
I know, that's why I was wondering
 
8:23 PM
unless you are google or twitter or facebook you have nothing to worry about
 
the web world is just overrun with front end ninja javascript warriors
 
don't even worry about it until it becomes an issue
 
they want to do everything on the front end
 
SOME websites like Twitter have compelling arguments for client side templating
 
 
8:25 PM
hehe I linked that earlier
 
^ a very compelling argument
 
@rlemon took it from your message
 
ahh :P
 
I bought strawberry popsicles, at last I have a fridge with a mini freezer
:D
Hey, gents, thanks for the info again, have to run some errands, talk to you later
 
Morning
 
8:28 PM
Morning
 
Morn
 
Mor
 
8:29 PM
Damnit LEMON!
 
..
 
 ___
< Mo >
 ---
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||
 
lol
 
Damnit MONNERS!
 
Quiet you.
 
8:30 PM
Damnit, I'm going to sleep
 
var m='morning';while(2) { console.log(m = m.substring(0, m.length - 1)); }
 
Such performance...
 
wow
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Because we all know 2 is faster than 1
4
 
guys I was serious I need a web browser :/
 
8:30 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum, one video you may like - liveleak.com/view?i=7fd_1405801040
 
fix my chrome :/
 
!!> var m='morning';while(m.length()>=0) { console.log(m = m.substring(0, m.length - 1)); }
 
@kwak Maximum execution time exceeded
@kwak Maximum execution time exceeded
 
@monners :D
ohh god I missed that :P
 
I read that post, it was golden
 
8:32 PM
Zirak I read that post at like 3am when I woke up to go pee and noticed I had a ping.
so much fun
 
@rlemon You saw @BenjaminGruenbaum's post, yeah? Ping ping ping!
 
maybe?
link?
 
@zigi I hate his videos. I love Israel but I believe those videos are very one sided. This is not a war between Israel and Palestine. I have arab friends which I like and I do not like any video that portrays their righteous struggle to self definition is unjust or evil.
Thanks for thinking about me though.
 
I agree with you, he's kind of biased
but I like how they made the graphics
I was wondering actually, what you are doing
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum the ends don't justify the means
 
8:34 PM
Propaganda and hate videos are part of why we're in this spot in the first place, there is a (small, but loud) movement of people who want people to shut up... you get criticized by those people for mourning the death of children in Gaza (Because "why don't you care about your children first?" -_-). These people scare me a lot more than terrorists.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you remind me of Zohan and his Palestinian friend a bit
 
i hate you drupal. Hate you so hard
 
being silent can't do that much harm as being loud
 
I can pick up a gun any day and join the fight, I might be required to do so by the country soon enough, I can do that. I have no idea how to deal with hate from home.
 
@SterlingArcher let me help you
 
8:34 PM
@SterlingArcher My Yoga has been stellar so far.
 
@JanDvorak what means?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum uh.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm glad! Take a picture!
 
not until I fix chrome dpi issues :/
 
(@SterlingArcher I'm serious, I'm a drupal dev.)
 
8:35 PM
ok I really gotta go
 
@FlorianMargaine well, I'm not sure how to explain my issue.
 
thanks again
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I wouldn't go killing anyone, no matter how much of an identity crisis my country had
 
We have a search field, and it populates via the db I guess (need to double check where the data is coming from). But I can't figure out where to edit the data the search is pulling from, because I just need to edit section titles, not actual data
 
8:37 PM
!!> var m='morning';while(m.length>0 ) { console.log(m = m.substring(0, m.length - 1)) }
 
@kwak "undefined" Logged: "mornin","morni","morn","mor","mo","m",""
 
@SterlingArcher is it a view, maybe?
 
In our un-converted version, it was a ugly but simple array with section titles. Now I don't know where they are coming from or how to edit them
 
@JanDvorak oh, I'm not talking about terrorists, fuck them. I just hate defining all arabs as terrorists etc.
 
@FlorianMargaine that may be it, I've been checking modules and content
 
8:38 PM
@SterlingArcher check the HTML, views have a recognizable layout
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum this much I agree with. Every country has good guys living in.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 that's awesome xD
$your_momma = new Momma("Japanese");
of all the things to specify, I wonder why nationality made it in there
 
@SterlingArcher that's racist
 
Well.. good night everyone. I'm going to try to get some sleep :D
 
8:39 PM
see ya
 
night
 
Good idea. Good night
 
!!s/sleep/sheep/
 
@FlorianMargaine will try to see, I'm not used to this version of drupal. I don't even know where the views are >.<
 
@kwak ew
 
8:40 PM
:))
 
@SterlingArcher which version?
 
@JanDvorak pft, no way!
 
Drupal? Drupal still exists?
 
Guys I'm confused
 
@SterlingArcher anyway, drupal is simple. Check the URL and you usually know where it fetches data from. Either it's a view, or it's a module. Grep in the source, and you know what's up.
 
8:40 PM
!!afk if you have any php or jQuery questions, @SecondRikudo is your guy, no matter how new you are he has patience if you bug him enough. Plugin questions are his specialty.
 
@JanDvorak zoophilia
 
@NickDugger I made that joke with PHP. It's my joke
 
@FlorianMargaine I want to say 8. 6 and 7 didn't look like this
 
How do you make an angularjs module that can be included in another one?
 
@copy did he [your name] your joke?!
 
8:41 PM
Really, though, I thought Drupal stopped releases, ages ago.
 
@SterlingArcher Yes, but at least he didn't act [your name] about it
 
!!s/Drupal/PHP/
 
That makes no sense
 
@kwak Really, though, I thought PHP stopped releases, ages ago. (source)
 
@SterlingArcher the 1st beta went out less than a month ago
 
8:42 PM
If I can get through my whole life without using drupal, I'll be happy
 
Oh, one last thing, sorry for the created commotion, one or two weeks ago, I will tell you one day in the future what was the reason if you are interested
have a nice evening for now
 
@FlorianMargaine domain aside, here's my url. /base-search?query=20001&submit_search=Search no view or anything
 
I've never used Drupal. I tried Joomla once, and almost died. Wordpress is the most user-friendly PHP CMS, but I kind of hate all CMS' now.
Especially onces made in PHP
also PHP sucks
 
@SterlingArcher grep the source for "base-search"
 
8:43 PM
I just want to stop using php
 
@NickDugger Say it isn't so!
 
I don't have ssh access
@Meredith you are an inspiration!
 
@NickDugger joomla sucks, wordpress sucks even more
 
Like I visibly cringe whenever I see a price with a dollar sign
 
drupal sucks too, but it's acceptable
 
8:43 PM
ptsd
 
PHP: Pretty Horrible Programming?
 
@SterlingArcher if it's defined by a module and you don't have sources... it's gonna be hard for you.
 
It's already hard
3
boom. phrasing.
 
crazy how the world changes, 8 years ago JavaScript was probably the most hated language
 
Are we still doing "phrasing"?
 
8:44 PM
@SterlingArcher you need the sources, Luke.
 
BOOM, PHRASING
 
One thing I like about php is that you can do $array[] = "something"; to push an item to an array
Literally the only good thing about php
 
you can't 'phrasing!' yourself.
 
@Loktar I think it still is, albeit it got better with standards
 
Can. Did.
 
8:45 PM
@SomeKittensUx2666 BOOM. Phrasing.
 
@copy now people will at least defend it :P
 
You certainly "phrased" yourself last night
 
I once saw a job ad where they wouldn't consider you if you had PHP experience
 
@Meredith I wonder if Ruby can do that too. If not, it can be taught.
 
@Zirak I TOLD YOU NO PEEKING
 
8:45 PM
@Loktar well. when I left JS (2007) it was SHIT - not it is actually something you can do shit in :P
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 haha wow sounds like a bunch of douches.
 
@Loktar I wouldn't really defend it, but it's just awesome to write applications, put them online and show them to all your friends
 
For real lol
 
@copy yeah definitely
 
It sounded like it. Buncha Rubyist first-timers who think their choice of language makes them special.
too many of those here.
 
8:46 PM
also its rare now you have to tell someone to install a different browser which is also great
 
Javascript is pretty neat but I don't really think i'll ever understand the whole classes-are-actually-instances-of-classes thing
 
Forget the word "class"
 
@Loktar Oh to have your client list...
 
There are only objects
Free your mind
 
@monners haha I mean when making "cool shit" :p
 
8:47 PM
!!youtube free your mind
 
Da fuq
 
actually in fairness my mom even uses Chrome
which is awesome
 
@monners Partial HosPitalization
 
I think new just copies the object
 
8:47 PM
@Meredith it doesn't copy anything
 
@Meredith Kind of
 
Then what does it do
 
My mother uses a Nokia something something with an old fashioned keypad and tells me But it has the Internet on it!!!!
 
haha
 
You have a special thing called a prototype (forget func.prototype for a second).
 
8:48 PM
@Meredith it allocates an object, assigns its [[prototype]] and calls a constructor on it
 
man wth.. why does font-awesome have a digg icon..
it was a newly added one as well
 
@monners All of the internet????
 
is digg still a thing...?
 
@Zirak For her sake I hope not
 
My mom uses Firefox. We installed Ubuntu on her laptop and told her where Spider Solitaire was.
 
8:49 PM
4chan's /y as well?
 
@Loktar I hear it's coming back.
 
So it copies the object and calls the constructor
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 I heard it was sold not too long ago I guess
 
@Meredith it doesn't copy anything
 
It's not copied
 
8:49 PM
@Zirak I wasn't sure what that was. Hopefully I recognized the name before fully loading the page.
 
but I also heard MySpace was coming back too..
 
it links the prototype
 
I think these older sites have too negative of a stigma associated
 
(if only there was a way to show someone a few lines of js and let them play with it..)
 
Just think how well-adjusted and normal our sexual fantasies would have been had we grown up without the internet :P
 
8:50 PM
I have no idea what my career would be w/o the internet or computers :?
 
aaahhhh yeeesssss
(today, I googled "sexy goat")
 
dare I do it
 
wh... why?
 
ok im going to do it
@Zirak ..why? D:
 
1 min ago, by monners
Just think how well-adjusted and normal our sexual fantasies would have been had we grown up without the internet :P
uhm, afk for a bit...
 
8:52 PM
@Zirak I tell you, release it with a back end then keep improving on it
 
@FlorianMargaine oh god horrible timing
such unsaid innuendos
 
PHRASING!
 
It wouldn't be like @Zirak to release a goat.
 
He'd release into a goat
 
8:55 PM
Too far
 
^^^
 
guys really nothing?
noone using chrpme here?
 
I use firefpx
 
your question got buried
ask again
 
i use chrome
Version 36.0.1985.125
 
8:57 PM
Can I get a blood test to check for autism?
 
I use heroin
 
But only to offset the crystal meth
 
please send two liters of blood to my house
 
@rlemon high dpi
> Thanks for the report! The "high-dpi-support" registry setting not working is a known Regression error in development Chrome 36. You can add a STAR to the following issue to be notified of updates to bug fixing:
 
8:58 PM
Just zoom out
 
How did we go from goats to autism and drugs?
..I can't D:
 
for gods sake
 
googling for you is the best answer I have
I've never fiddled with the flag.
 
@SterlingArcher then there is Off-Center Detection
 
found out its a bug
dunno about beta or canary
 
8:59 PM
@JanDvorak we are definitely off center for sure...
 

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