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2:01 PM
@DrogoNevets, well on the checkout page i don't have js, i catch it with php. but lemme check if its posting the data or not from the browse page. gimme a min.
 
what's going on here
stop using PHP already
 
@KumarAbinash when the ajax call is made, any decent web dev console will show you the call and show you the response
 
you wouldn't eat a rotten piece of meat, you wouldn't take candy from a stranger, so don't use PHP to write web applications
 
I would take candy from a stranger
 
well TBF using PHP is more like taking rotten meat from a stranger in a van.
 
2:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz its alright for small non-enterprise apps
 
@DrogoNevets bullshit.
 
@DrogoNevets no
 
@BartekBanachewicz What's wrong with using PHP..?
 
it's alright for anything
 
@SecondRikudo the fact that PHP is terrible.
 
2:04 PM
@FlorianMargaine im thinking personal websites, that kinda ilk (PS no need to swear)
 
@DrogoNevets did I swear?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I make very well built, OO, extensible, clean applications with PHP.
 
you can hardly talk about PHP w/o swearing
@SecondRikudo ... my ass.
 
Don't judge a language by its noobs please...
 
@FlorianMargaine sorry wrong response clicked!
@SecondRikudo +1
 
2:04 PM
@SecondRikudo even with very good programmers, the language still sucks
 
@SecondRikudo no, I'm judging a language by itself
 
@FlorianMargaine I never said that the language doesn't suck, but from "it sucks" to "don't use it for anything", that's a long way to go.
 
quite the opposite in fact, I understand that there are competent programmers writing PHP
doesn't change the fact that the language is FUBAR
@SecondRikudo not really
 
@BartekBanachewicz Um... Yes, really.
 
just go by the philosophy of "right tools for the job"
 
2:05 PM
Because I find that JS sucks even more than PHP, and I still use it.
 
@SecondRikudo you hardly have choice WRT JS
whereas there are countless alternatives to PHP
 
@SecondRikudo hm, no, really
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not appealing ones, no.
 
JS has bad parts, PHP doesn't have good parts
 
And I've tried plenty.
 
@FlorianMargaine Please, stop.
 
also as much as I dislike JS, it's still a lot better than PHP
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
@SecondRikudo Excuse me?
 
2:07 PM
@FlorianMargaine I was expecting funny pictures, but there are none :(((
 
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Q: get promise for keyboard response

beginneRI want to show an image on the screen. As soon as the image is displayed, the user should be able to press a key. I didn't figure out yet how to allow the press of a key only if the image has been displayed already. I came across Promises but I don't know how to use them for my specific problem. ...

 
As half the web is written in PHP, it's probably safe to say that it works just fine, even if some people don't like it very much.
 
@SecondRikudo that's not an argument
 
@BartekBanachewicz For anything short of a full enterprise level application that requires threading and extreme memory and data usages, there are no appealing alternatives to PHP.
 
@user3649503 "works fine" != "is not terrible"
@SecondRikudo Python. Ruby. Javascript. Haskell.
 
2:08 PM
@BartekBanachewicz - according to you everything is terrible ?
 
@BartekBanachewicz that was serious until the last one :P
 
@SecondRikudo Erlang
 
@DrogoNevets, yes its posting the right data. i can see it on my js console.
 
seriously I'd rather code the goddamn website in Prolog
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh I'm sorry, I meant alternatives that are actually used and have a community.
 
2:09 PM
> Python. Ruby. Javascript.
Java. C#.
 
and Erlang, becuase it's actively used
 
@FlorianMargaine Python, maybe. Ruby no. JavaScript, hell-no.
 
nevermind the fact that Haskell web frameworks also have tremendous communities
 
Someone thinks they are a rock star and a know-it-all
 
@KumarAbinash and the response?
 
2:09 PM
Java HELL NO, C# I haven't tried.
 
@BartekBanachewicz definitely not of the same scale
 
@FlorianMargaine yeah well are we measuring dicks now or stating the fact of "having a reasonable-sized community"?
 
@DrogoNevets its not getting any response. Why is that?
 
I know they are less popular.
 
@KumarAbinash what was the status code?
it will have one of those
 
2:10 PM
I'd also say that it's not about number of people, but that's subjective at best.
 
I'd agree, it only takes one idiot to ruin something that works perfectly fine !
 
@SecondRikudo each of the ones we've presented is miles in front of PHP. Even JS. The ultimate fuckup that this language presents is like a wayback machine to 70's, but fuck even then people could write reasonable documentation and adhere to some conventions. PHP took a lot of ideas and executed all of them wrong, irkedly or in somehow broken way.
It has no good parts whatsoever and there are no pros, no reasons to learn, teach or use it.
 
Answer appreciated:
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Q: Are all JSON objects also valid JavaScript objects?

Benjamin GruenbaumThe JSON standard defines objects in one way and the ECMAScript (JavaScript) standard defines it in another. It is often said that JSON objects are a subset of JavaScript objects, is this true? Is every JSON object also a valid JavaScript object?

@SecondRikudo I'd just like to note @BartekBanachewicz never wrote any big projects in php, nor did he write any in JS, or any other language he's praising or dissing here :P
@BartekBanachewicz PHP has some good ideas going for it.
 
@DrogoNevets, well, its showing 200. and its also getting a response now.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum just like javascript.
there's a saying in Polish about good ideas.
 
2:15 PM
server is immutable and has no global state, resource management is abstracted from you, you don't worry about the protocol, request/response cycle is immutable and scales easily on many server.
 
@KumarAbinash what is response?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum oh look I think I saw it somewhere
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, but php did that ten years ago when the web was doing perl and webforms
 
@BartekBanachewicz PHP has a massive community, it's incredibly easy to learn, is very readable and easy to follow, does not encourage XML or other types of voodoo files magic.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - As JSON stands for JavaScript Object Notation, I'd say "yes", JSON is always valid javascript, but there are probably some edge cases that will generate errors in JS and still pass JSONLint and vice versa.

On the other hand, JSON strings should always be valid ?
 
2:17 PM
> does not encourage XML
what
 
Can be both procedural for beginners, and OOP for advanced, and yes, it is possible of writing good OO, SOLID PHP code.
 
not using its standard library
not using its standard type system
 
ok all, this is a JS room not a PHP one, end of, lets kiss and make up now
 
it has broken core.
 
@DrogoNevets i've posted the response in html code of the fiddle check it out.
 
2:17 PM
@BartekBanachewicz And I'm telling you, from experience, you can.
 
Morning bros and brosettes
 
With a few tradeoffs, sure. But you can.
 
@SecondRikudo yes you can write great applications in any shit language
like in assembly
and then your assembly-based medical equipment kills 15 people that die from radiation sickness
 
@KumarAbinash is that correct?
 
2:18 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Well, I dislike arguing with people who have very little experience in the field they are arguing.
 
at least your PHP based solution will at most give out my credit card details
 
So if you'd like to argue that PHP sucks properly, please do some PHP first, then tell me how bad it is.
 
@BartekBanachewicz - I hate PHP as much as the next guy, but I sure know how to use it. You on the other hand are making a fool of yourself !
 
@DrogoNevets yes., that's what i got.
 
@SecondRikudo that's like the most bullshit and flawed logical reasoning one might use in a discussion ever
 
2:19 PM
@BartekBanachewicz If you outsource your development to India, yeah, it would.
@BartekBanachewicz No, it really isn't.
 
@KumarAbinash then maybe the issue is with retrieving thedata, other than that im out of ideas
 
@SecondRikudo the fact that I haven't written 150k LoC of PHP in my life doesn't mean I can't pinpoint its flaws. And if you think so, there's an error in your reasoning.
 
Will I argue with a dentist about someone's mouth health? No, because that's not the area I specialize, and have very little knowledge on the subject.
 
why do you assume that just because you have shitload of PHP written you can dismiss my knowledge about language design?
 
@BartekBanachewicz It does, because you've scratched the surface, which I agree can be horrible, but when you go deeper, you realize it's not as bad as people like you make it to be.
 
2:20 PM
do you dismiss other languages' reasoning based on your PHP experience in the same way?
 
@BartekBanachewicz you don't really understand the problem that server side web developers are solving... it's not that you're wrong about PHP, I don't like PHP either, heck, I say that every other day in the PHP room - it's the fact you're making the incorrect arguments.
 
@DrogoNevets, thanks. I'll match up the response from localhost and the webhost and see if something doesn't match. thanks for the 'response' idea.. I should've thought about that.
 
No, I don't. Because I don't know your "other languages"
 
@SecondRikudo yet you dismiss them as worse than PHP automatically.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I dismiss the ones I tried as not as appealing as PHP.
 
2:21 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum The only thing incorrect about my arguments I've heard here today is my lack of experience.
 
No language in the world has been able to simplify the HTTP protocol the way PHP does. To abstract away a lot of the overhead that other languages don't offer you to hide.
 
how can you know if you haven't used them?
I mean it's ridiculous.
 
1 min ago, by Second Rikudo
@BartekBanachewicz I dismiss the ones I tried as not as appealing as PHP.
 
You criticize me for making statements about PHP and then you proceed to make statements about ALL OTHER LANGUAGES ON THE PLANET.
 
Do I really need to emphasize the ones I tried?
 
2:23 PM
yes, you do.
 
On Main, is there a way I can see my comments I've posted?
 
user1596138
There are reasons to like PHP and there are reasons not to. Same with everything else.
 
especially if you spell out No language in the world
 
user1596138
He has a valid reason for liking PHP. Let him like it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, find me a language that makes the HTTP protocol as simple as PHP does it, and I'll believe you.
 
user1596138
2:23 PM
Also strtotime() makes me cream
 
^ now im going to have nightmares
THANKS.
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh, because I know you.
 
That claim (about no language in the world), was not made by me, but by others, who know a shitload more than I do.
 
@SecondRikudo Languages I use for web development have frameworks that don't require me even knowing what HTTP is, so I don't understand the question.
 
@Jhawins It makes you cream?
 
2:24 PM
@BartekBanachewicz you don't understand the arguments @SecondRikudo is making and fwiw he doesn't understand the ones you're making :D
 
@KumarAbinash i always forget for ages and think its something complicated. it'll be something simple i would think
 
user1596138
@SecondRikudo Don't read into that if you don't get it as a joke off the bat..
 
Also, who uses strtotime? That's why you have DateTime.
 
user1596138
@SecondRikudo No not the same thing at all
 
> who uses a language's standard library
 
2:24 PM
@BartekBanachewicz php is very cheap to get developers for, there are tons of such developers, it's trivial to scale and trivial to outsource.
 
yes and these are all arguments not related to the language sucking
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Most probably. Which is why I don't want to continue this argument anymore.
 
he's still trying to convince me that the language in its very nature doesn't suck
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh, most languages suck, I don't think anyone is arguing php doesn't suck
 
2:25 PM
Lisp doesn't suck
 
@FlorianMargaine high five
 
user1596138
It's easy to code a giant mess in PHP that does exactly what you want. It's hard to keep it clean though.
 
21 mins ago, by Second Rikudo
@FlorianMargaine I never said that the language doesn't suck, but from "it sucks" to "don't use it for anything", that's a long way to go.
 
You guys should go to the PHP room and see what they think of this argument
 
user1596138
JavaScript fucking sucks.
 
2:26 PM
@RUJordan fuck I'm not going there again
 
Most of them will tell you that PHP sucks.
 
user1596138
We all know that. Anyone who doesn't is a moron.
 
every time I go into the PHP room I come out dumber, crying over humanity
 
don't ask me how, it's just how it goes.
 
anyway it's the point to which PHP does suck
it's actively harmful
 
user1596138
@BartekBanachewicz I'll agree with that hahaha
 
it's not even "terrible" in a conventional sense of that word
 
user1596138
It's bad and it feels bad
 
2:27 PM
it's like BASIC teaching kids goto all over again
 
at some point didn't PHP allow multiple function definitions with the same name?
 
and then you do this funny grep on sudo $_GET on github
 
Yeah, that's bad
 
:thinks to himself, what an ass that Bartek is ?:
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m59
@BenjaminGruenbaum doh. I finally suddenly figured out the promise anti-pattern
 
2:28 PM
@user3649503 hey, you invented a new typo of my name
 
Ding, I can fix that
 
Hey guys, is there a AngularJS room or can I ask here? (i have this chat on a bookmark)
 
anyway I was supposed to not discuss PHP again
I forgot
 
m59
@MoshMage go for it
 
lmao.. @BartekBanachewicz he went /me on your ass xD
 
2:29 PM
Angular sucks !
 
That geeks me
 
@DrogoNevets, hey you mind taking a loot at responses that i got from localhost and webhost? jsfiddle.net/kYzRN/2
 
@user3649503 why does angular suck?
 
@MoshMage shoot!
 
@RUJordan he'd slap that
 
2:30 PM
!!s/slap/tap/
 
m59
@user3649503 Not cool, man. Not cool.
 
@RUJordan @RUJordan he'd tap that (source)
 
I did in the php room here here or here or whatver
@m59 lol
 
@m59, @DrogoNevets I have this simple "hello world" app, but I'm getting "bookmarks.bmControl" is not a function got undefined thingy (source: pastie.org/private/hsl8zbfeehmz4e69e3lrw )
 
and then
in PHP, Jun 20 '13 at 17:47, by Jhawinsss
I like the fact that I have actual control over the server with PHP. JS can play with the browser... PHP can access cmd, or shell ;)
sorry @Jhawins
 
2:31 PM
4724
A: How do I "think in AngularJS" if I have a jQuery background?

Josh David Miller1. Don't design your page, and then change it with DOM manipulations In jQuery, you design a page, and then you make it dynamic. This is because jQuery was designed for augmentation and has grown incredibly from that simple premise. But in AngularJS, you must start from the ground up with your ...

that dude is gonna get so much more rep.
 
user1596138
@BartekBanachewicz Hahaha XD
 
@Loktar has a chance at beating Mysticial
 
user1596138
Hey I had the gist of it down!
 
2:31 PM
its on reddit over 400 upvotes
 
@KumarAbinash you have a load of NULLs in webhost 2nd one
 
So if you guys hate php so much, what do you suggest using for server-side scripting?
 
m59
@BenjaminGruenbaum I realize it's hard to communicate it though, but this: jsbin.com/tasuxeqo/1/edit I never heard anyone specifically demonstrate or say that you could chain like this
 
NODEJS :D
 
@MoshMage in your HTML, <div ng-controller="bookmarks.bmControl"> I think should be <div ng-controller="bmControl">
 
2:32 PM
I'm completely rewriting the backend of a site so I might as well take it as an opportunity to leave php behind
 
(thought I don't hate php, nodejs has shown to be neat - that's all)
 
@Meredith I like Python for web actually. My small server scripts run on Flask nowadays.
 
Python, Node, Ruby, <anything but PHP>
 
@DrogoNevets, yeah, i saw that.. but why.. its the same code i ran in local and webhost.. what i could be missing?
 
@RUJordan I did that, to get the same error. Though I'll doublecheck for typos
 
2:32 PM
@MoshMage also, your ng-app needs a name. <html ng-app="bookmark">
 
@Meredith Haskell.
 
@MoshMage ok i see what youve done
 
user1596138
@BartekBanachewicz Wait. No that's not me. He has 2 extra s ;)
 
Otherwise it doesn't know what module to look for
 
@Meredith If you already know javascript, nodejs is a natural conclusion
 
2:33 PM
I've been leaning toward node
 
@Jhawins :P
 
Yeah because of javascript
 
in html, get rid of all the "bookmarks."
 
@Jefffrey :*
 
@BartekBanachewicz using Flask and Python literally right now
 
2:33 PM
@RUJordan high 5
 
Does node have prepared statements?
 
o/\o
 
@Meredith do apples have concentrate?
 
I was recently writing a Spatial-SQL app in Flask
 
user1596138
@RUJordan Nice! Flasks are all I have experience with :P
 
2:33 PM
@Meredith Prepared statements are a property of database drivers, not languages.
 
@RUJordan beat me to it!
 
m59
@MoshMage yeah, Angular doesn't auto namespace like you think it does.
 
Nodejs is javascript, and not much else
 
but for that I'd probably need bigger guns actually
 
Well I mean like how php has pdo
 
2:34 PM
@Meredith it depends on the SQL module you import. My MySQL uses prepared statements, but I just use mysql.escape()
 
m59
Remove "bookmarks" from your html, or namespace your components with it
 
The primary difference being that it is server-side and therefore you can access the file system and such
 
@Meredith pick up the modules you need
don't think "php" when moving into node, it will hurt you
 
@Neil and actually get reasonable ES6
 
user1596138
@rlemon We can make a new language called "ABP" sort of like ABI forums
 
2:34 PM
Ok thanks
 
@Meredith You'll probably have to install database libraries for that.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Still missing promises though
 
user1596138
Cross universe compatible!
 
@rlemon he shouldn't technically think JS either with Node, else he'll/she'll be confused.
also hi, i missed you bro <3
 
HUZZAH ;D @RUJordan the ng-app="" and emoving bookmark from the controller worked
@m59 and @DrogoNevets will search on how to namespace it properly, for now "bookmark.link" will have to do (I'm still hello worlding)
 
2:35 PM
@RUJordan - How can thinking JS when you're using JS confuse you ?
 
("hello worlding" should become a verb)
 
m59
@MoshMage I abbreviate my namespace, 2-4 characters and add it to everything
 
don't think DOM when using node <- thinking js is unavoidable.
 
@MoshMage yay! That's my first angular answer I've given lol
 
@RUJordan o/
 
2:36 PM
@MoshMage agreed
 
@MoshMage there are a few other things you could do
 
m59
lol I'm ridiculous, I double namespace
vendor.module.componentName
 
@user3649503 JS is a client side language that interacts closely with the DOM. If you have that mentality, Node will be confusing. You have to think server sided
 
m59
pmkr.someApp.someController
lol
 
@m59 bro that's worse than double gophering
<.<
 
2:37 PM
eg on line #11 you have ngmodel=bookmark.link, yet bookmark nor link exist in the scope
 
m59
!!doge name, space, encapsulation, obsessive good practice
 
  wow
much name
                  very  space
                             so  encapsulation
many  obsessive good practice
 
@DrogoNevets I just noticed that xD
 
user1596138
> The depths to which JavaScript sucks is well-documented and well-understood. Its main faults are: its lack of module system, weak-typing, verbose function syntax¹, late binding², which has led to the creation of various static analysis tools to alleviate this language flaw³, but with limited success⁴ (there is even a static type checker⁵), finicky equality/automatic conversion, this behaviour, and lack of static types.
 
@MoshMage a better place to put code for us to help you with is jsfiddle.net
 
user1596138
2:39 PM
Come at me bro // haskell extremists
 
Couldn't remember that damned link xD
 
@MoshMage if you need any more help, im here most days during office (GMT) hours
as is @RUJordan too, only not GMT i dont think
(?)
 
Thanks :) I'll now go back to reading and coding at the same time so I can understand my dumb mistakes; Will get active again when another wall turns out to be stronger than my jackhammer :P
 
@DrogoNevets I'm east coast US, so I believe EST is my timezone
 
@RUJordan so yea, not GMT :P
 
2:42 PM
@Jhawins yeah how you like that you dirty javascripter :D
all in all, this is overly provocative
 
Visual Studio has this ugly habit of letting you make virtual folders for your source, and not showing you its place in the folder when you're using the file, therefore if you accidentally drag a file into another, you'll never find it again
 
and in the same time too funny to be taken down
@Neil you can switch to direct folder structure view IIRC
 
user1596138
@Neil I know what the problem is
 
@BartekBanachewicz Will it create the folders?
 
@Neil also you can delete .filters file but that's kinda extreme
 
2:42 PM
@Neil one thing i noticed in that little discussion everyone had just then about good/bad language, .NET wasnt mentioned at all.....
 
@BartekBanachewicz And even missing the point that we don't have a complete standard library
 
user1596138
You're using Visual Studio!
 
@Neil if you work on real folder structure then yes
 
@DrogoNevets Yep, real shame, isn't it?
 
@Neil only if you plan on denouncing it.....
 
2:43 PM
@BartekBanachewicz No, it's all virtual now
 
How much faster than php is node?
 
@Neil then you can try grepping .filters file
@Meredith by 3 hours and 16 minutes, circa.
 
Thanks great answer
 
@Meredith 1 billion jiggawats
 
@Meredith as good as the question (hint: it would get downvoted into oblivion on main before you could say "HTTP")
 
2:44 PM
@DrogoNevets Hah, I have to eat, you know
@BartekBanachewicz What a pain that is though
I'll take a look
 
No you're supposed to say "a lot", "a little", "barely noticeable", etc
It's a qualitative answer
 
@Neil "man shall not live of bread alone" in other words, have principles! :P
 
user1596138
It appears HostGator's "jail shell" is actually just... A normal fucking shell. And they just don't put /usr/sbin in $PATH to keep you from accessing different commands
 
@DrogoNevets I can think my language sucks and still work with it. :P
@DrogoNevets Hah, I have to eat, you know
 
@Jhawins haha
 
2:46 PM
@Meredith give me two benchmarks and i'll run them in both and tell you
 
@Neil you sent that twice?
 
otherwise, "how much faster is an apple over an orange" isn't going to bode well.
 
@Meredith it's a very factorial dependent question. What task is being run that should be timed, etc?
 
@Laurent Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
user1596138
As I expected I can run just about anything I want short of root privileges. This "jail shell" is fake hahaha
 
2:47 PM
@Meredith okey so php is sometimes a lot slower, but at times that's barely noticeable and it can mean little, but on the other hand it can be very slower sometimes
 
@rlemon well.. growth time could be a fruit speed?
 
@Jhawins That's pretty standard
 
@RUJordan I guess just reading from a database and printing it
 
@Meredith no, it's a shitty question
 
@RUJordan but then I ask what the conditions are and we're back to square one
 
2:47 PM
@DrogoNevets Hmm, weird, no I didn't
 
user1596138
@copy obvious troll is obvious
 
if you compare speed of programming languages then fuck you
 
@Meredith what db tech, what is the query, how are you printing it.
I'm trying to point out that it is a bad question :P
 
especially in the age where everyone and their dog has JIT
 
user1596138
No. Go away @Copy. You chime in to confuse me for 3 minutes and then disappear. Not gonna do it lol
 
2:48 PM
@Jhawins Getting a non-root shell for your hosting is pretty standard
 
@Neil
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/16594987#16594987
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/16595052#16595052
 
@Meredith If someone said "a little" as opposed to "a lot", it would be relative to what exactly?
 
@Neil the amount of sex I got in HS
 
@rlemon lol!
 
Sometimes you guys are really good at being overly pedantic assholes
 
2:48 PM
lol
 
@rlemon that would mean 1 was alot then right?
 
@Meredith but your question is bad.
 
user1596138
@copy Yeah I figured you'd say something like that. Even though it doesn't apply at all. Their custom "jail shell" isn't supposed to be a non-root shell. It's supposed to be a very restricted shell.
 
@Meredith Yep, that's pretty much us in a nutshell
 
is a skateboard faster than rollerblades?
 
2:49 PM
@Meredith They are just saying the truth it depends too much on other factors
 
@Meredith ???
 
@Jhawins does it stop you adding things to $PATH
 
Ok I will give you guys some life advice listen up
 
@Jhawins Alright then
 
@Meredith this should be good.....
 
2:50 PM
If someone asks a question and the answer depends on a number of factors
 
user1596138
@copy I know you like to pretend I don't know jack... But.. :)
 
@Meredith if you're not a pedantic asshole then you should not be a software engineer
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if it is bad advice I may do one of two things: pin it so we can laugh, or bin it because it is stupid.
 
@Meredith Not giving women any advice today? (*snicker*)
 
Then your answer should take each of those factors into consideration
 
user1596138
2:50 PM
@DrogoNevets Idk lol. Don't need to
 
Instead of just saying "nope bad question"
 
pin and bin brah!
I don't think I'm a pedantic asshole though =x
 
@RUJordan thats why your code doesnt work.... :P
 
@Daniel Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@meredith we can't consider those factors because you queswtion is too broad
 
2:51 PM
My code always works D:
 
@Meredith but it is a bad question
 
...eventually
 
are we supposed to sugar coat everything and hold your hand?
 
I need to learn how to write
 
@RUJordan * there there *
 
2:52 PM
@rlemon Besides, where's the fun in that?
 
@Jhawins You just made it sound like you found something interesting
 
@rlemon can you sugar coat my pretzel with some chocolate because I would love that
 
@Gero3 "when you leanr to read you start with ABC".....
 
And then we can hold hands if you really want to..
 
@DrogoNevets their, they're, there.. those gramma nazi's can't hurt you anymore..
3
 
2:52 PM
BUT JUST THIS ONCE.
 
user1596138
@DrogoNevets Haha nah. Doesn't care. It's really just a non-root shell they pretend is on some kind of lock down haha. The support tech said most people don't even ask for SSH but I think he was just a dunce
 
!!s/my pretzel/"my pretzel"/
 
@Neil @rlemon can you sugar coat "my pretzel" with some chocolate because I would love that (source)
 
^ ha
 
user1596138
@copy I found all the things
 
2:53 PM
I call it his pretzel because it is so bendy
 
user1596138
All dem things is found by me
 
@rlemon have we really stooped this low already?!
 
@rlemon Not because it's salty? *bolts*
 
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@Copy I told you it gives me access to everyone else's home folders on this shared server from www-data right?
 
@DrogoNevets you have to stoop low with RUJordan ;)
 
2:54 PM
@rlemon really? i would thought that telescope was enough?
 
Can't tell if insult.. or junk compliment..
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user1596138
Read-only. But when you can read mysqlcon.php, or the contents of just about any other file it's no good.
 
@Jhawins Oh, that's neat
 
user1596138
There's also that little trick with a variation of ls that will give you the hierarchy of a file system even if you don't have read access to it...
 
is the localStorage usage in AngularJS the same as (well..) pure js? (as in, all I need to do is localStorage.that = "this" ?
 
2:56 PM
@RUJordan junk compliment bro.
I got your back (in every sense of the term)
 
@rlemon my man! o/
I got your front brah
 
I am using DOJO i would like to get all values in a select list can anyone help
 
user1596138
I don't know how it exists. But I noticed it a few months ago. Definitely a real bug haha
 
@MoshMage how do you mean?
 
Starting to cringe now.. could we stop with the sexual induendos?
 
user1596138
2:57 PM
!!s/ue/r/
 
@Jhawins Starting to cringe now.. could we stop with the sexual indrndos? (source)
 
user1596138
Ugh typo
 
@DrogoNevets in jquery (thought I think it's not jquery) I'd use localStorage.my_name = "moshmage" and then access localStorage.my_name as a variable -- the same still applies to Angular ?
 
^ thats plain ol' JS
 
@MoshMage yes
 

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