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2:01 PM
Do you mean that it looks like a dog that ran up on the mountain?
 
i.minus.com/igXQ57bGNCydH.gif home made electric guitar.
 
Yeah.
 
@dystroy Hmm yeah, that would work too.
 
If so then it needs to be ..., der auf der Berg gelaufen ist.
 
2:02 PM
Thanks.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Yeah, I get it. But your patching for a beta version. I would worry about it when its in iOS7 RC1, no?
 
The launch is 8 days... expected
 
@AbhishekHingnikar so they have 8 days to fix the issue :D
 
@mikedidthis cd ./applehistory/hate_towards_web_apps
cat what_they_did_with_geolocation
 
2:05 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar lols. kk. But I still think it will be fixed in RC1.
 
I doubt
they hate web-apps
 
@BadgerGirl Also, me llamo Octavian. :)
Soy de Austria.
Like a fucking pro.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar doesn't make them money.
 
@OctavianDamiean Muy bien.
 
@mikedidthis do they make money to google and microsoft ?
No ... yes to google but hell no to microsoft
 
2:07 PM
@BadgerGirl Gracias.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar but a web app is outside the store eco system.
 
Besides now the apple-web-app-capable looks like hipocricy to me
you give a custom tag to what ... Disable JavaScript Nitro, Break Geolocation, Break webAudio, enforce insanely horrible caching (which u cant clean)
 
@AbhishekHingnikar full screen faux web apps! :(
 
there was a sun weather app
a great app for iOS 4
worked awesome and smooth on iOS 5
 
2:08 PM
iOS 6... stutters like hell, geolocation broken :-| poor guy gave up managing the app
@rlemon looks sexy!
 
and terrifying
 
@rlemon i'd kiss her
i am not scared of spiders and ants ... [everything else with more then 4 legs is bound to death ]
 
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i'd probably hit her in the face with a two-by-four
aiming for the spider ofc.
 
@rlemon don't make me summon my final form.
 
2:10 PM
@rlemon why not hit vertically ?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar because she ate his bacon.
 
then it flys in the air and can land anywhere
 
just breaking the bubble and then killing the spider with a whatever ?
 
nope
fire or two by four to the face
 
@rlemon its big enough for a bullet
 
2:11 PM
only solution
 
shoot it!
 
maybe eggs
explodes into thousands of baby demons
kill it with fire
 
@rlemon I did that once, never again.
There were hundreds of tiny spiders.
 
Grooveshark...I don't get you. Why did you pause for inactivity? It's good that I didn't fiddle with your in a while. It means that I'm enjoying the music. Which you just paused.
 
2:21 PM
@Zirak it's just so that they don't waste bandwidth in case you happen to die
 
Which is very likely at your age.
 
Especially when listening for hard metal. You should ask a doctor to check your musical choices.
 
@Zirak I feel this pain as well.
 
s/hard/heavy/
 
2:34 PM
So, i have a licencing question. Kendo UI Web is available on the GPL 3.0 license
can i use this on a application behind a login?
 
@Blowsie kendoui.com/purchase.aspx Looks like its $399.
 
You can even use it behind a donkey if you wish.
 
@mikedidthis kendoui.com/download.aspx - free on GPL
 
"Login" is irrelevant.
 
@Blowsie right. So the charge is for support etc, my mistake.
 
2:37 PM
@JanDvorak The music keeps me alive, man.
 
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Q: Javascript tile map -> bitmap or JSON

user2701428I would like to know which idea is better in terms of performance. The map is 5000x5000 tiles and I plan to expand it even more. It is split into 50x50 regions and camera doesn't move with player, the map just switches to next one when player reaches border of the screen. I have few possible ap...

 
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Q: GPLv3 can I use these programs in commercial?

KowalikusCan I use http://code.google.com/p/wkhtmltopdf/ (licensed under gplv3) as a part of my commercial application?

 
@Zirak So, what thats saying is if i want to resdistribute my code, its has to be available on GPL also?
@Zirak and in all other cases its fine to use it?
 
@Kowalikus - If your application is build upon the GPL-covered code you will be obligated to give away your code to anyone who asks for it. On the other hand if GPL-covered code is used side by side with you app (like a module, but is not necessary for it valid execution) you just need to give away the part that is based on GPL code. For clarification look here: gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLInProprietarySystemkyrisu Feb 17 '10 at 13:47
 
IANAL, and I dislike the GPL exactly for its convoluted nature, but yeah, it seems like if you're using something which is GPL, what uses it must be GPL-compatible too.
 
2:43 PM
So it depends on how your using the GPL code.
 
It doesn't have to be GPL, several other licenses are compatible (I know the X11 (MIT) license is, not sure about WTFPL)
neat, WTFPL is GPL compatible: gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#WTFPL
@rlemon Well, now I do feel bad.
!!wiki apple
 
The apple is the pomaceous fruit of the apple tree, species Malus domestica in the rose family (Rosaceae). It is one of the most widely cultivated tree fruits, and the most widely known of the many members of genus Malus that are used by humans. Apples grow on small, deciduous trees. The tree originated in Central Asia, where its wild ancestor, Malus sieversii, is still found today. Apples have been grown for thousands of years in Asia and Europe, and were brought to North America by European colonists. Apples have been present in the mythology and religions of many cultures, includ...
 
!!wiki apple tree
 
The apple is the pomaceous fruit of the apple tree, species Malus domestica in the rose family (Rosaceae). It is one of the most widely cultivated tree fruits, and the most widely known of the many members of genus Malus that are used by humans. Apples grow on small, deciduous trees. The tree originated in Central Asia, where its wild ancestor, Malus sieversii, is still found today. Apples have been grown for thousands of years in Asia and Europe, and were brought to North America by European colonists. Apples have been present in the mythology and religions of many cultures, includ...
 
@mikedidthis so if was using it with angularjs, i would only need to give away the templates which contain use kendo ui code, and not the controllers, as they dont use kendo?
 
2:47 PM
!!wiki apple computer not the fruit you silly
 
@dystroy The Gods of Wikipedia did not bless us
 
!!wiki apple inc.
 
@mikedidthis The Gods of Wikipedia did not bless us
@mikedidthis The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing
 
@CapricaSix fuuuuu!
 
So the problem is probably multi-word queries. Maybe I didn't convert spaces to something wikipedia likes.
!!wiki Scooby Doo
 
2:49 PM
Scooby-Doo is an American animated cartoon franchise, comprising several animated television series produced from 1969 to the present day. The original series, Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!, was created for Hanna-Barbera Productions by writers Joe Ruby and Ken Spears in 1969. This Saturday morning cartoon series featured four teenagers—Fred Jones, Daphne Blake, Velma Dinkley and Norville "Shaggy" Rogers—and their talking brown Great Dane Following the success of the original series, Hanna-Barbera and its successor Warner Bros. Animation have produced numerous follow-up and spin-off anima...
 
Or maybe not.
 
@Blowsie it seems that way. Also release is different from give away. I am not super hot with licences, but as long as the kendo stuff is available to the public.
 
@Zirak that's what I wanted to test, I expected to get the fruit
 
!!wiki Labour_Day
 
@rlemon No result found
@rlemon The Gods of Wikipedia did not bless us
 
2:52 PM
hrm
 
@rlemon The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing
 
yea
 
Does somebody here have IE ? What returns [0,1][null] ?
 
@dystroy it should be undefined
 
@JanDvorak On normal browsers, yes.
But this question makes me suppose it could be different on IE :
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Q: Firefox "TypeError: all[i] is undefined"

user2740154I have a browser based service manual for my Jeep. Works great in IE but not Firefox. Basically there is a TOC that you can expand and drill down into sub topics, e.g. [+] Clutch [+] Cooling [+] Electrical But Firefox will throw the following error when clicking on the [+] beside the main to...

 
3:05 PM
is dr.eval still alive?
I don't remember his invocation pattern, though
 
Why ? He does use IE ? He's really eval, then...
 
aye. Someone posted an IE bot a while back
 
ie> was his handle
 
ie> "I'm alive!"
 
doesn't seem to answer
@JanDvorak zorak just tested it (or is there a ` somewhere ?)
 
3:08 PM
Zorak was never here
Unless he's my Dr. Jeckyll
 
ok, I'll fire a vm :(
 
I have IE 8 on a nearby computer, I'll try it
>>[0,1][null]
undefined
So it got ToNumber right.
 
the same on IE9 (just tested in a vm)
 
Re-open vote please. stackoverflow.com/questions/18564677/… I belive that this question is not Opinion based at all, if it should be closed, it shouldn't be closed for that reason.
 
IE10 as well
@Pinocchio but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions
Its been closed due to the answers being entirely based on opinions, not the question, right?
 
3:13 PM
@mikedidthis Really? Regardless, you don't close a question based on the answers it receives.
 
I agree with mike
 
but there is no true answer, only opinions.
 
@mikedidthis data-* attributes are for storing data not classes. so therefore is not opinion based. The only opinion part is that you can use classes but you shouldn't
 
@Pinocchio "Primarily opinion based", I think, also says "will disagreements be caused because of a technical, or personal viewpoint?"
The disagreements in the answers are not due to technical reasons ("you can't do X on Y"), but personal ("using X is worse than using Y because [reasons]")
 
I'll boot up IE
 
3:16 PM
Boot to Internet Explorer !
@OctavianDamiean did u get your ffox phone ?
 
@Zirak is using classes good to store data?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar He did quite a while ago.
 
IE-OS. The past of the future is now.
5
 
@SomeGuy didn't know
@Zirak lol
 
know*
 
3:17 PM
@Pinocchio No. But some disagree.
 
@Pinocchio but that's your opinion
 
@OctavianDamiean can u bench the phone ? against my apple iOS 7 iPhone 4s!
 
IE9 in IE7 mode / Win7: standards-compliant.
 
and my bosses 5 ... i hope it outperforms the safari :3 that'd be leet
 
Damn, I was stupid. Could you test this on IE8 ? ['a', 2][undefined]
 
3:20 PM
undefined in IE7-10
 
ok, thanks
 
I assume document mode doesn't matter
 
I assume nothing on IE
 
@dystroy I would be flabbergasted is IE had gotten something like ToNumber wrong.
 
old IE can't even split right
 
3:23 PM
Actually, it's not even ToNumber, it's ToString
 
ie> "a".split(/a/)
 
Whoever posted a TDWTF link, burn.
 
tdwtf is awesome
been around for ages as well.
 
But like bash.org, it's one of the sites you manage to forget, until someone brings them up...and you're sucked in...forever.
 
public enum BOOL
{
  TRUE,
  FALSE,
  NOT_TRUE_OR_FALSE
}
golden
 
3:32 PM
One of my favourites was something weirder than the above, something like
enum BOOL {
  TRUE,
  FALSE,
  FILE_NOT_FOUND
}
The more I look at it, the more confused I get.
 
A real one. A few months ago I was asked to put online some HTML. The HTML file was more than 3000 lines long with only a few lines rendered. An extract :
<h3>
      <font color="#0000FF">
        <font color="#000000">
          <font color="#0000FF">
            <font color="#000000">
              <font color="#0000FF">
                <font color="#000000">
                  <font color="#0000FF">
                    <font color="#000000">
                      <font color="#0000FF">
                        <font color="#000000">
                          <font color="#0000FF">
                            <font color="#000000">
                              <font color="#0000FF">
A microsoft tool is involved in this crime.
 
lol after implementing from scratch for 4 hours my promise is faster than $.when
(which is claimed to be fastest promise implementation)
 
Is your impl fastest cross browser?
jQuery don't optimize for Chrome :)
 
3:39 PM
jQuery is not even a promise implementation
 
Why the emphasis on Object.freeze ? What's the relation with promises ?
 
I was talking about $.when
 
@rlemon Check the bottom of the file
 
Ah, still, browsers?
 
what am I looking for?
 
3:40 PM
@dystroy some while ago freeze caused hash table
like 2-3months
 
oh, we're speaking about optimization tricks, not features, then.
 
deferred [RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded]
Which is funny. Even though they mention it.
 
@rlemon Maybe it's just me but he doesn't appear drunk.
 
"what am I being arrested for? Eating a meal? A succinct [Asian] meal?"
 
3:48 PM
This guy is such a sir.
"Is that a headlock? Ah, yes. I see you know your Judo well."
 
4:08 PM
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Didn't Bush get a nobel?
 
Anonymous
everyone has got a nobel.
 
Anonymous
I have one too
 
Browser
Resident Shared Private Virtual
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Safari
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@ThiefMaster Also, Obama didn't bomb in Syria
 
4:12 PM
Hi, I have a plugin called fetchData that retrieves some data and builds a HTML list. Then I have another plugin that let you drag and drop elements in that list. They both work separately, but when call together $(#mylist).fetchData().selectAndSort() they don't. It seems that fetchData has not terminated when calling selectAndSort(). How could I do to make them work?
 
user652649
 
@jabaldonedo .end() do $("#mylist").fetchData().end().selectAndSort()
If that doesn't work use .andBack and if that doesn't, just return it.. or put it in two statements ffs
 
@BadgerGirl The sentences are fine, although a bit akward since you can still see the english "pattern" coming through. Also, what do you mean by "the clouds must be poisonous", also "der in der Berg gelaufen ist" doesn't make any sense at all.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum thanks!
 
4:32 PM
@rlemon lol thats great
the alien image
 
@Wes how did you get this picture of my ancestor?
Canadian Indian Mountie with Buffalo horns and Lemons in a under water reef.
 
user652649
ancestor? i thought it was you
 
that picture couldn't be any more rlemon
 
user652649
i forgot to add mustaches!
 
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4:35 PM
rlemon, Ontario, Canada.
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user652649
aha
 
will take a bit for the chat to update
cookie jar aquarium stage 1
if the plant is still alive in a week the lights are capable and I can fully stock it
 
user652649
lol, i really can't understand this kind of hobbies
 
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Q: Upper Limit Reddit, Tumblr and Livejournal RSS Feed Results?

theconsultingthiefI am aware of this syntax to get around the default 25 items limit when subscribing to Reddit RSS feeds: http://reddit.com/r/[subreddit].rss?limit=[limit] My question is, is there an upper limit on "limit"? For example, if I put in, say 500, would I get 500 items each time the feed updated ...

^ this should be closed, right?
@rlemon that's awesome.
 
@Wes what hobbies do you have?
 
user652649
4:42 PM
i tried to cultivate weed
 
Aquarium / Reefing is very addicting once you get into it
I also grow plants, but legal ones ;)
 
user652649
isn't weed legal in canada?
 
no
just tolerated more
 
user652649
so, i'm canceling the trip to canada
 
aquariums are more about the 'growth' / 'evolution' of it all. It is very interesting to watch a tiny little eco system you created / maintain give birth to new life and evolve into crazy shit (moreso reef systems)
@Wes we still get the better weed.
note: can only compare to USA and Mexico and Dominican Republic.
 
user652649
4:49 PM
i prefer something not strong. if it's very strong it's not fun
 
user652649
 
if only I had the space / money
my ultimate tank would be ~1200-2000 us gallons
 
nice big tanks
mmmmm
 
@mikedidthis I would just say it's a shit question. I can't think of how you can close it though.
 
4:53 PM
^ like 12 tons right there.. need a serious floor under it all
so yea, if ever anyone needs fish tank advice. i'm your man.
 
user652649
aha
 
ever kept a blue ring kraken? @riemon
@rlemon sry
 
kraken?
octopus?
 
i have a settimeout function that doesn't work like it should 10000ms results in 5s. 5000ms results in 2.5s?
 
I read a lot of stuff on the interesting life, unfortunately not much of it likes to be kept in a community with other fish / inverts / corals so I don't end up buying them. but I do research them and dream...
 
4:58 PM
@rlemon in german it is called blaugeringelte kraken
 
with a large enough tank it is possible. but I have only medium/small/and nano tanks
 
void 0!==aW[a[0]]&&clearTimeout(aW[a[0]]);aW[a[0]]=setTimeout(function(){$("#activeID_"‌​+a[0]).remove()},10000);
blueringkraken are small. I would consider them the only kraken you can keep in a private way
 
doesn't matter.
 
I like the shapeshifting.
^-^
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Yes I got it about a week after I told y'all that I ordered it, which has been a couple of months now and no I can't benchmark it against your iPhone. There's a simple reason for that, that benchmark wouldn't say anything since my phone is a developer preview model whereas your iPhone is a consumer model.
 
4:59 PM
my fish are small. he would strangle them out for food / space / bored
 

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