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06:06
Does element.replaceChild() work for the nested inner children or just the immediate children of an element?
No idea! (Helpful, I know.)
As for me... I give up! Brain capacity inferior to what is required to do a mere @font-face. Let's be realistic, I need sleep. I'll send my design to the teacher in hopes I can avoid losing points for being late for the design at least.
user986408
time?
06:11
Time?
It's 2 in the morning and I slept 2 hours last night.
I'm not even sleepy. I'm just not thinking right anymore.
user986408
ew you are on the other side of the world D:
Pretty surprising how many Asians there are here
it works only for immediate child
Asians and Australians. Well, people from that area.
Apart from programming help chatrooms, I've barely ever seen any.
That, or the numbers on the Internet are increasing just as I coincidentally started to do programming.
@Ariane Asia is a big continent thats y
06:24
hi,anybody having idea on devexpress?
was more referring to why I didn't meet many before
Anyway I'm off to bed. Bye.
@XCritics just wow.
To what
Well the beard scratching is impressive, but 'wow' to the facebook melt down.
07:15
hello, i have simple java applet inserted to IE browser with the <object element. how to remove/close this applet correctly? because after $('object').remove(); java applet stop working
LOL
Please tell me thats you
@FlorianMargaine I had seen this blogpost (was posted on reddit) but I found it lacking content : apart the fact this guy is convinced, what do we get ?
@dystroy yep, nothing
it's mostly testimony from a fan I guess
but it can help convince people
07:18
Maybe by looking more could we find the address of the company hiring Go coders...
any help?
@dystroy hehe :)
and they take remote.
@Emis I'm afraid most of us here stopped using applets 15 years ago. Maybe you'd have more luck in the java room
@dystroy sounds like your dream job
@FlorianMargaine Interesting...
Not sure about
07:21
send a mail. now.
> developers that have a strong background in scaling large socket servers
but it's worth a deeper look, for sure.
How did you find this ? Are there more ?
searched "go" on careers.so
first result
there are other
more if you search "go developer"
2+ years with HTML/CSS/Javascript (jQuery and Prototype)

Is prototype anything different than, Function.prototype?
yep
it's prototype.js
ITS A LIBRARY
loud noises
@phenomnomnominal DONT YELL AT ME
I YELL AT ANYONE I WANT
OK :D
The nearest job for me is 400 km away, and it says Node.js in their tags, but I see no mention of it, just want php and word press developers
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that
Holy fuck could the uTorrent installer try to sneak more installs or what
One more question, does AngularJS work like Jade?
It doesn't seem much different
@XCritics its disgusting how much 'sneakware' that thing tries to install.
07:28
@mikedidthis I know, if it didn't work as well as it does, I would laugh at the scumbags
@XCritics I actually changed to this: tixati.com due to uTorrents spammy shit.
I always liked the look of those old torrent clients :P
Frostwire :P
Limewire bro, LIMEWIRE!
Frostwire :P
@FlorianMargaine I'm writing the mail...
Please have a look at this link
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Q: Get offset position of the caret in Textarea in pixels

Mr_GreenIn my project, I am trying to get the offset position of the caret in a TextArea in pixels. How it could be done? Before asking here, I have gone through many links (especially, Tim Down's) but I couldn't find a solution which works in IE8+, Chrome and Firefox. It seems, Tim Down is working on ...

Any alternative solutions are also welcome
Any suggestions too
07:59
@dystroy heh, keep me informed :)
@FlorianMargaine Of course. Mail sent.
08:11
@rlemon Good job...restroed.
@rlemon This has been suggested several times...if you can find a way to detect whether a user's gravatar can be mustachified, sure.
@GMan Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
1
Q: inject javascript into page which loads in childbrowser phonegap

GManI have a link which opens in the child browser of phonegap - for those not familiar with phonegap just think of it as a new window. The link that I am opening has an annoying alert which pops up the 1st time the webpage is loaded on the device. I would like to stop this alert poping up by tryin...

@Zirak Can you try it in the background first?
Care to elaborate?
Try it, then see if the resulting image is different from the original.
08:23
Go for it
Hello
hey sorry
got distracted.
anyone keen to answer GMan's question?
is this a cookie you have control over?
or are we talking a different window
in a different domain
no I don't have control.. it is a different domain.
you can't control cookies of different domains
simple as that
08:32
You can't control many things from a different domain.
bugger.. what about the javascaript variable?
well, yea
what kind of alert are you getting?
a javascript alert?
or like an HTML banner or something
It's more like an html banner rather than a js alert
yea, there is nothing you can do about that
if you have a different website open in a window
you can't control anything
even in an iframe or whatever
you have no control of that window, no access to its DOM, ect.
damm.. well thats good to know, so i won't waste anymore time trying to solve it that way.
thanks redline.
08:35
just short of moving the frame around and changing its size, that page is staying the way it is
yea np
also, when working with iframes for your own application
there have been plenty a time i ran into issues with access-control-allow-origin header settings
so if there comes a time you try to make JSON requests using iframes and start mixing windows like that, if any of them don't have the same domain, you run into these issues
so the iframe is like a sandbox.. nothing in, nothing out.
well this header is for security basically
sandbox if the domain is different.
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Q: Auto Generating a Div Structure with CSS

IgnacioUntil today I have been using jsfiddle to design div's and then there CSS for testing purposes and then implement design to real development. Now I wonder if there is any GUI type utility which I can use to generate a Div structure with CSS using GUI (nope am not talking about dream weaver or an...

08:38
yes exactly
when its a different domain, its untouchable
the browser, for security purposes, doesn't let you access anything
cool. I'll give the blog a read. thanks again dude
and data transmissions for cross domain requests will rely heavily on that header
no problem
now, i have a question myself for any super experienced javascript developers in here
or at least, socially experienced
if that makes any sense
Hello
I'm getting bunch of variables from an API
which I'm stroring in an array
It'll be huge number of value
Now I wanted to get specific key and value to validate the data
Is there any way except indexOf to get particular key value?
what do you mean by key value?
like a property access?
someVariable.someProperty
or
someVariable["someProperty"]
or you need to search for the value itself and get the key in return
using indexOf
one mint
let me give you an example output
08:43
no problem, take your time
are there any experienced javascripters in here that could help me with my question?
@redline just post your question, if some one knows, they will answer.
it'll return an object like below:

"test1" : [
{
"field1" : "value1",
"field1" : "value1",
"field1" : "value1"
}
]
well mike, i don't actually having a coding question
my question pertains to the javascript community itself
so i wasn't sure if it was appropriate
@redline just fire away.
well last year i developed a little library which i thought was pretty cool
i wanted to get some feedback and see if anyone wnated to try it out and let me know of any bugs they found, ect.
08:46
Hi all, cud some please tell me how the images on this link android.stackexchange.com/about shifts from right to left when a user reach to a particular section? I have seen this on many sites before! but don't know how to do it...
i tried to promote the library a little bit but it didn't work
so i gave up
well, this year i started from scratch and coded an even better library
so i'm back where i was last year
it's not like i'm making money or anything, i just want to share it with people
but i have no idea where to share it or how
@redline github?
because where ever i go, i am treated like a spammer
but github is just for forking and things
@redline use github to make ur source public and use github pages to link the demos that you want to show to the community
i am looking for something more forum based
interactive and whatnot
08:48
@redline add it to github, get some demos going, then go from there? I am going to presume your lib does something different to others.
like this conversatoin here where i can converse and get feedback
@redline I think github is a little more than forking.
i have a page up if you don't mind me posting it here
@redline go nuts.
well i've never used github before and gasp wasn't a big fan to be honest
www.jtypes.com
i know some people will hate this, but i feel other will find it useful
and i just want to reach out to those who follow the same design patterns as myself
08:50
@redline github / bitbucket would be really useful.
yes but how exactly?
that's what i'm curious about
i've tried twitter and other places as well, and emailed a lot of different bloggers
it just seems so difficult to ever catch anyones attention
@redline if you want you can be with github to host all your demos/library and use twitter or any other chatting service to let your users talk to you.
if people like it, they'll use it
well the reason i am hesitant to go on github
is i don't really like the concept
perhaps i just don't undrstand it or something
but i feel like forking = many different versions
so unless people know where the code came from
yes, but they belong to other people
08:52
You don't need to fork or merge anything.
some of them will just sit there
if its just something unnoticeable, if someone forks there are just 238497394878 different versions out there
others may submit pull requests
@redline yeah even i dont like it that much but give it a go...even I am a TFS guy in 9-5 @ work! u will like it once you start doing it.
@redline maybe look at how other libs are using github: github.com/madrobby/zepto
08:53
plus i use team foundation server and i want all my code in their source control so all my work stuff is in the same place
well like here is what comes to mind
take jquery for example
@redline no problem there. You just commit / push to github, your server can still be the master.
people fork jquery, but everyone knows what it is
if you don't have people knowing what your library is, what prevents someone else from claiming it is theirs?
this is a chicken and the egg situation
or something like that
I think your looking at this the wrong way
08:55
at the start, people didn't know what jquery was
the fact that it is on your account first?
so what though?
when jquery first came out
i could have taken the code and used it myself on a different website and nobody would have known
then i could take claim, he gets no feedback or help or support
maybe i am being a little overprotective
@redline if your lib fills a gap, people will use it. You can't force them to use it though.
but its not like its a DLL or something, its javascript
yes but right now, i could claim jquery is mine
but why would i
i have no idea
08:57
anyone with any effort could find out that it isnt
and that would ruin my professional integrity
yes there are shit heads who don't say where they got code from
don't follow the licence etc etc
yes but that is because in its current state everyone knows what it is
but that doesn't mean they magically own it
i worked really hard on this and i don't want some ass to just steal it
people will steal it
full stop
but i really want to help other people as well since i feel its useful
08:58
that doesn't make it theirs.
people always steal good things, it happens.
have you ever pirated music?
or a movie?
So put it on github. Users can post issues, ideas, improvements, hell they can even code them yourself and you can add in what you feel is helpful.
alright well you guys are being really helpful and i appreciate it, so i guess ill move into my last point
it's about collaboration and community
08:59
its a little personal but whatever
so i have OCD and i'm a little hesitant to put my source on GIT
i've always made DLLs and i like compiled code

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