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4:00 PM
@rlemon Housing is cheap in canada, eh?
 
@OctavianDamiean he said €
 
user2157210
@OctavianDamiean no 30 min out of london
 
@FlorianMargaine He could be converting for Octavian
 
user2157210
I a
 
@FlorianMargaine Well he has converted it to €.
 
user2157210
4:00 PM
I am
 
Like I generally use $
 
@Shmiddty nahh I got lucky.
 
@Nexxpresso Duh, that's quite some money.
 
(If you think I meant dollars, I didn't. jQuery FTW)
 
user2157210
@OctavianDamiean my friend lives directly in muich
 
4:01 PM
guys, if i put a function in the form action bit, it tries to go to /verif()how do i get it to got to verif() (in the scipt tag)
 
user2157210
paying 950/month for a single room in a shared flat
 
sorry, its a bit urgent
 
@Nexxpresso OMFG!
 
@deep GOTO verif;
 
@rlemon I'm paying $1900/mo + utilities for a 2x2. It's nice, and it's in the city, but still...
 
4:02 PM
<form actrion=GOTO verif()>?
 
for what i'm living in, anywhere else I'd be paying like $1200-$1400
 
user2157210
@OctavianDamiean and he is not even working
 
@deep give it a try
 
@rlemon How much do you pay now?
 
k
 
4:02 PM
@AmaanCheval $975/mo
 
@Nexxpresso How in the world can he pay his rent then!?
 
@Nexxpresso How can he afford that then?
 
@deep i'm trolling you
action is the place the form submits too
 
I could probably find the same thing I have now for around $1200 in the suburbs, but I'd have to get a car.
 
user2157210
@OctavianDamiean called parents
 
4:03 PM
you need to use js to cancel the event and process the form
 
user2157210
i mean i wanted to study in munich too
 
can i use a button, and a lot of var.values?
 
user2157210
but i cant afford to live there
 
Man those are some sick prices ...
 
4:04 PM
    <form name="foo" action="somepage.php">

    </form>

    var frm = document.forms.foo;
    frm.onsubmit = function(event) {

        if( !verif() ) {

            event.preventDefault();
            return false;

        };
    };
 
Well I wouldn't have to stay directly in Munich I guess.
 
@SomeKittens did that fiddle help?
 
@Shmiddty No. Content should scroll on overflow, still can't figure that out
 
Knock, knock.
- Who’s there?
very long pause….
- Java.

Knock, knock.
- Who’s there?
- C++.

Knock, knock.
- Assembler.
3
 
I could find something in the suburbs I guess.
 
4:05 PM
- Threads
Knock, knock.
 
user2157210
Ok one of my best friends decided to study "Fahrzeugtechnik" he doesnt understand a word of IT and asks me to help him ..
 
Knock, 0100101101101110011011110110001101101011
 
@FlorianMargaine lol
 
L7Knock, R72
- LZ77
 
4:06 PM
@Shmiddty Yep.
 
@SomeKittens So... what's the problem?
 
@Shmiddty Trying that now
The problem is that I hate CSS and there's no good way to learn it
 
@SomeKittens It's the same code I gave you before, but with content.
 
SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0;
> zero rows returned.
 
@Shmiddty Wanted to see it in action
 
4:07 PM
@SomeKittens lazy.
 
@Shmiddty If I tried myself, I'd probably break something somewhere
@rlemon's css is just hacky.
 
try { hooker() } catch( std ) { return false; /* phew, close one. */ }
 
!!/choose "Play" "Code"
 
@AmaanCheval Play
 
SELECT * FROM users WHERE user_id IN (SELECT user_id FROM clues)
> zero rows returned
 
4:08 PM
Huzzah!
 
Oh yeah, that pretty much broke everything.
 
@rlemon Ideas for games plox
 
to make or to play?
 
You said you'd send me some some day but you never did!
Make
 
Bubble Popper!
you shoot arrows at bubbles and try to pop them, but watch out for the "Goo" bubbles! if you pop them your gun gets goop on it and you cannot shoot for a few seconds.
the bubbles raise and if they collide they pop themselves, for no points
 
4:10 PM
Whoa
Nice idea.
 
for difficulty you add objects that bubbles can pass through but your arrows cannot
and implement a wind factor (put a little flag in the corner indicating speed and direction)
 
You know what's even cooler, though?
 
Hah, guess that'd be a nice for a target game in a new language
 
You're a fearless housewife in a house where the dust bunnies have come to radioactive life. You must protect your family with only your trusty vacuum cleaner.
 
(After the basic ones)
 
4:11 PM
Go to the Bridge on arqade.SE, and type "insert coin" into chat

 The Bridge

General Arqade Chat. We tried to leave once, but the door lock...
 
@ShotgunNinja Oh. Thanks!
 
user2157210
Holy why should I as a software engineer have a clue about automotive microprocessors
 
ok.. how about "destruction construction"
you shoot bombs at a structure and try to 'destroy' it to build another structure
 
@rlemon sounds like angry birds
 
I � Unicode.
 
4:13 PM
I hate angry birds.
 
python will make me throw the computer :D
i cant wait till i get to write the webstack
 
user2157210
why
 
user2157210
python is like logic
 
@Nexxpresso i dont like quite things init
for in reverse order for example -_-
 
@AmaanCheval make a game like MindFlex.
 
4:14 PM
just because i want to do a reverse order traverse i reverse the whole array ?
 
@KendallFrey Make the input gear for me
 
user2157210
yes because thats logic
 
@AmaanCheval pls dude make mugen for canvas
@Nexxpresso wtf ?
 
@AmaanCheval Sure, if you make the mind-reading software.
 
4:15 PM
what if my element of search was first element from back
 
@AmaanCheval like this
 
i uselessly reversed the whole array
 
@Darkyen I'll look it up
 
@AmaanCheval Mugen was old c
 
4:15 PM
@Shmiddty well the point and shoot would be like angry birds. but you are not killing anything
 
@rlemon Oh I see. That's more interesting
 
user2157210
@Darkyen no you did it because you can
 
but the community is still alive and we still get mugen games every now and then
@Nexxpresso -_-
thats bullshit
 
@rlemon Ooooh, that looks a lot more interesting
 
you are reversing a whole array for nothing
 
4:16 PM
@AmaanCheval you're welcome :P
 
in js it would be just a reverse for loop
 
user2157210
the problem is it seems you have to use python dont you?
 
yes
 
lunch time
be back later.
 
@Darkyen And you're conflicting with the KISS principle
 
4:17 PM
@copy yes
 
@copy Never kiss your prostitute?
 
I don't quite understand what he's trying to do.
 
can someone tell me the real difference using backbonejs than jquery plugin for one page web app
 
One more thing ... i like servers being completely asynchronous , especially web-requests
 
user2157210
be happy that arrays start with 0
 
4:18 PM
are <p>'s inline?
 
@rlemon If I end up making the mechanics, you will be the main level designer.
:P
 
or do they have there own?
 
Q: What's the difference between Software Development and Sex?
A: In sex, you don't get a bonus for releasing early.
and now I stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
@gowri Backbone == structure, jQuery alone == spaghetti code.
 
4:18 PM
lol
 
I wasted too long
 
@FlorianMargaine looooooooooooool
 
I'll have to stay too much at work now
 
@AmaanCheval Make cyvasse: asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/…
 
user2157210
work done
 
user2157210
4:19 PM
progress for today: Calculated how many bombs needed for total destruction of NK
 
@Nexxpresso Whoa, what are you working on?
 
@Neil I believe it's a project called Pro CRAS
 
user2157210
@Neil Mobile app for our library system
 
@OctavianDamiean: So in the action both are same except code style right?
 
@Neil That'll nuke NK on a button press.
 
4:21 PM
@Nexxpresso North Korea ?
 
Nebraska?
 
Norway and Kazakistan ?
 
North Korea.
 
I saw this photo gallery of this photographer who was allowed to enter north korea
 
@gowri Well, of course you can write a one-page web app without any library that takes care of structure but if you do that, kittens and puppies are going to die.
 
4:22 PM
Yeah, north korea makes more sense
 
Aside from the fact that everything was chipper, which I would expect nothing less..
 
@OctavianDamiean one puppy per unique visitor?
 
@Neil and he never made back ?
 
user2157210
@JanDvorak 1087 b83 for complete destruction of Nebraska meaning every building destroyed and not a single tree standing upright anymore
 
Literally every parade or celebration of the birth of a leader
 
4:22 PM
@JanDvorak More.
 
Or in memory of a leader
@Darkyen Well he got his photos out somehow so I presume he lives
 
user2157210
@Neil You can book a trip to NK
 
user2157210
about 250 ppl / year i think
 
user2157210
its not even that expensive
 
They named a freakin' flower kimyongilia to commemorate leader kim yong il
What an awful name for a flower
 
4:24 PM
Remember guys, whenever you're really mad at a country, just ping @Nexxpresso he'll help you calculate your attack expenses.
 
@Nexxpresso From what I understand, you have a government escort with you at all times.
 
user2157210
@Shmiddty you have
 
and they shoot you in the face for using GPS
 
@OctavianDamiean: Thank you :)
 
user2157210
ok im off my way home
 
4:25 PM
NK strikes me as a lot like Iran with its fundamentalist government, with the difference that they don't worship Islam, they worship their leader instead
 
@Neil They're actually mocking him with that. Thinking that a flower is the vagina of a plant, they effectively called him a pussy. It was a sneaky insult.
 
@OctavianDamiean SMBC reference?
 
@JanDvorak No?
 
@OctavianDamiean You think the north koreans are generally against their leader?
Obviously they can't show it
But maybe they think it
 
@Neil At least that plant scientist didn't the other ones were probably brain washed.
 
@JanDvorak Yea, well I managed to remember some stuff from biology, so no that wasn't a SMBC reference. :D
 
m59
just curious, what would happen if you made an object that contained html elements and then ajax'd it to a php file which cached it? Would the elements be retrievable via ajax?? Just a crazy thought I had.
 
Actually, I had to google SMBC up ...
 
@m59 can't serialize objects with circular structure
 
@OctavianDamiean Blasphemy
 
m59
4:30 PM
@JanDvorak I really don't know what that means, lol. But I'm assuming the conclusion = error.
 
@m59 just try JSON.stringify(window) in your console.
 
@m59 TypeError: Converting circular structure to JSON
 
@AmaanCheval Your time is not wasted enough: kongregate.com/games/nexontgt/the-grinns-tale
 
m59
I see.
 
I saw this picture of a children's book in a kindergarten class at a school in north korea which depicted an american soldier (with a large nose and thick eyebrows) which spots a woman playing the violin. In the next panel, she's laying on the ground, presumably dead with a severed arm and the american with an axe in his hand..
 
4:31 PM
@Zirak Thanks for helping
 
It was a freakin' pop-up book too...
Trying to find it..
 
m59
In my mind, that would kind of rock, since I could cache the entire output of my script and then just load the cache if it is new enough. There is something like that, though, right? An .htaccess command that serves a cached page or something?
 
Guns don't kill people. Propaganda does.
 
@JanDvorak that sounds like NRA propaganda
 
It's not even a gun though
 
4:34 PM
@m59 You could do JSON.stringify({output: someElement.innerHTML})
 
It's an axe.. like it's not strange enough that an american would kill a violinist for no apparent reason.. he also apparently keeps an axe on him at all times
 
but it wouldn't carry over any events
 
or even JSON.stringify(someElement.innerHTML)
 
@Neil Don't you know the old American saying? "Always keep an ax ready in case of violinists".
2
 
m59
Woah. I've never heard of caching something like that though. It would be simple to reattach the events. There must be a reason this is a bad idea. Especially if there is a standard way of increasing performance via htaccess caching (if that exists like I remember)
 
4:35 PM
@Zirak My parents sheltered me too much apparently
 
@Zirak The loading time on this thing is so long. Without a progress bar or percentage, I feel strange.
 
@m59 It's more data being passed between the client and server, which reduces performance.
 
> "violins" is never the answer
 
m59
@Shmiddty So, it would actually be faster to build it all over again rather than pull it from a file via ajax?
 
@m59 Yes, generally speaking
 
4:37 PM
@m59 The point of ajax is generally to store/exchange data rather than presentation/html
 
m59
I think I get why, also.
Because when you finally get all the innerHtml back, it basically has to build it anyway when inserting it back in the dom, right?
 
@m59 Correct, and it will generally be slower when you just dump in a glob of raw html
 
m59
So it's really doing the same thing, but has to wait on knowing what to build. If that is correct, yeah, that really sucks.
fail haha. Well, it's good to think of possibilities. I like knowing why stuff is a terrible idea.
Thanks so much.
 
document.createElement is much faster than setting innerHTML
 
but setting innerHTML is sooo much more convenient </whine>
 
m59
4:40 PM
LOL.
 
@JanDvorak Setting innerHTML in a loop is the best
 
m59
I'm really glad you guys taught me stuff.
 
@dystroy haha real nice :D
 
setting innerHTML with javascript to set innerHTML is the preferred way
 
@FlorianMargaine what ?
 
m59
4:40 PM
I remember writing code that way and how awful it was to read AND write.
 
I'm guilty of having modified a style body in a loop.
 
7 mins ago, by dystroy
@JanDvorak that sounds like NRA propaganda
 
for(var i = 0; i<1000;i++){
   document.body.innerHTML += "<div id='div"+i+"'>"+i+"</div>";
}
 
yeah, classic. Slow as hell.
 
@Shmiddty do it out of the loop, it will be fast
 
4:42 PM
@dystroy wat no wei
 
I mean : concatenate and call innerHTML only once
 
@dystroy he's ironic
 
var fragment = "";
for(var i=0; i<1000; i++){
  fragment += "<div id='div"+i+"'>"+i+"</div>";
}
document.body.innerHTML += fragment;
 
My existence is ironic? :(
 
@Shmiddty Not enough jQuery
 
4:44 PM
@JanDvorak ~_~
 
deepschool.jaberwokkee.kodingen.com/~/ratios.htm see the form, is there a way to record the score so that it says : last time you got (whatever they got) wanna try again?
 
...is it worth the frustration to comment on it?
 
through some crazy loophole and previous communication error a client of ours just told us we have to make their gigantic credit union portal website responsive by monday
 
for(var i = 0; i<1000;i++){
   $("body").append("<div id='div"+i+"'>"+i+"</div>");
}
 
m59
@Shmiddty +1
 
4:45 PM
document.body.innerHTML += "<script>document.body.innerHTML += '<div>Efficiency</div>';</script>";
 
m59
@Shmiddty Can I have permissun plz use this code for website, I make happy
 
var lul = "<script>document.body.innerHTML += lul;</script><div>lul</div>";
document.body.innerHTML += lul;
 
var df = document.createFragment();
for(var i=0; i<1000; i++){
  var div = document.createElement("div")
  div.id = i
  div.innerText = i //sorry, firefox
  df.appendChild(div)
}
document.body.appendChild(df)
 
m59
holy mess, you finally lost me on that one.
 
Even better: write out the whole HTML mess by hand.
 
m59
4:47 PM
LOL.
 
@JanDvorak div.innerText = div.textContent = i;
 
@m59 The main point is to send one Ajax request and retrieve all data in its response. How you're going to implement that on the server-side depends on what exactly you're dealing with (which I don't fully understand).
 
@Zirak No.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'd rather put the shame on FF
 
@JanDvorak You're only shaming yourself with your low (IE non-) standards
 
4:49 PM
actually, I should have just created a text node
 
Yeah, you should have
 
bloated code FTW
 
m59
@SomeKittens write the entire 1000 lines of html by hand, put it in a text file. Use ajax to retrieve it and then insert it into the dom using $('#id').html(html);
then write function killSelf() and call it.
OH SNAP. NO.
1000 files.
1 line each
 
$("body").html(_.range(1000).map(function(){
  return "<div id="+i+">"+i+"</div>"
}).join(""))
 
4:51 PM
in IE8, window.location.origin === undefined
 
m59
1000 ajax calls. Each one uses $().html to insert one line at a time.
 
@GNi33 guess who's enjoying a Tschisi right now.
 
hehe, awesome!
and, what do you think?
 
But...you didn't guess
 
Awesometastic!
 
4:53 PM
@OctavianDamiean IT'S KILLING ME WHO'S ENJOYING A TSCHISI RIGHT NOW
 
Each AJAX call should contain the URL where the next call should go
 
m59
SO moderators, consider putting together a timed competition in which contestants must produce a result on the page in the most inefficient manner possible. We compete to see who can, in the time given, produce the slowest result.
 
@Zirak Well guess. :D
 
Michael Jackson
 
4:53 PM
Close, more alive though.
 
No no...Genghis Khan
 
m59
Doing that now :)
 
The Ghost of Christmas Future!
 
4:54 PM
Legolas!
 
Lego lass
 
<-- WINNER! \o/
 
m59
@JanDvorak oh I see. I don't know if it would make sense. The timed event-ness of it works better than for a post...
Kind of like a hack-a-thon, but a nub-a-thon instead.
 
@Zirak I should send you a Tschisi.
 
4:56 PM
you need to set some official rules; say, it looks like a real programmer could have written that in a good faith.
 
Every action taken by the code must move one step closer to the solution (no matter how small of a step it is). Thus, no setTimeout etc
 
is it possible to disable the canvas feature in chrome?
 
Don't think so.
 
Damn.
debugging flash in IE is a PITA.
 
Why do you want to?
 
4:59 PM
not like I chose to.
 
Can't you copy the markup that adds the Flash in, and use that in Chrome?
 

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