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5:01 PM
how infuriating
he didn't even comment
 
Would you please check my post :stackoverflow.com/questions/13569547/…
 
probably cos he is just doing his job and took the first answer that worked
^^
 
Wow. I'm in a class where we have to invent something (I had Dormless). #2 person made yet another social network. Glad to see all this "innovation"
 
@Esailija no bc the OP stated that this (stackoverflow.com/a/13568766/561731) worked... so why would he choose my answer?
 
because of rep ?
your answer is just as bad as the others, I don't know
 
5:07 PM
No idea.
 
@SomeKittens what is Dormless?
@Neal man what an ugly tie!!!
 
2 hours ago, by SomeKittens
@FlorianMargaine https://docs.google.com/document/d/18NSlh-wHNX8XYOJtNHFIrc9XHFywNS_RadhjJINSdxc/edit
+1 to whoever added
 
trogdor?
 
@FlorianMargaine room tag
 
5:13 PM
@SomeKittens sound like a very nice idea! gratz
@SomeKittens do you already have financiers? ;-)
 
Thanks. I got a lot of low ratings at my first demo, with no explanation why.
So if there's anything worrysome to you, let me know
No financing yet. We've barely started implementing the idea
$$$ is coming from my pocket.
 
room topic changed to JavaScript: Welcome. Please be kind and don't ask to ask, just ask if you need help (Vampires please join #Transylvania). [ecmascript-5] [javascript]
 
hey @jAndy, how's your life? still so bad?
 
@Neal: You were absolutely right about the == question in the comments, no "true true" at all.
@FlorianMargaine: hola Florian, what do you mean with 'bad' ?
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5:18 PM
@SomeKittens Hmm if you want to see good course management system check out MOODLE. but i bet you already know it...
 
and i am now installing a 2 year old driver because it garuntees to work .. AMD sucks !
cant fix a driver :'[ for good Linux Kernels
 
@uncleho It's ugly. We use it at my school. Dormless isn't going to be a CMS
 
@jAndy nothing, just randomly throwing words :p
 
urhmz :p
 
@jAndy did you ever get a donation? (If you feel that I could save you some time with one of my answers, I appreciate any donation to PayPal: andreas.goebel@typeofnan.com)
 
5:20 PM
@SomeKittens but my main worry is: is it possible to enlist for a course that easily? i mean I are commited to an university if you start studying. taking course at another uni would include some change of course plans and even more administrative work to get your grades and diplomas etc...
 
@FlorianMargaine: yea.. but the reason why I stated that in my profile is, because I was asked three times from ppl if they can donate me something
so after the third time, I just added that
 
@uncleho eh?
 
The idea is for Dormless to eliminate as much of that hassle as possible. Stuff like finances might be tricky.
 
@jAndy idk he no listen... so i left it at that.
 
@jAndy oh, so you really got a donation?
 
5:22 PM
@FlorianMargaine: yea, but.. I still need to come to the office.. if you know what I mean :p
range was from 5-20 bucks
 
@SomeKittens hmm ok... yeah finances are always hard to compute! I like the base idead though.
 
@jAndy oh that's cool
 
Yell at commentor (who is also the OP): stackoverflow.com/a/13569986/561731
....
please.
 
@uncleho Hopefully my savings are enough to get us to the point where we can get into a startup accelerator
 
@SomeKittens if you focus on Modern UI you may get some money of Microsoft: microsoft.com/bizspark/appcampus/…
 
5:33 PM
Eww, Microsoft
 
Without Microsoft’s operating system the final laptop price is $887.15. With Windows that balloons up to $1,045.79.
DaFuq Microsoft ?
 
Hmm ok ;-)
 
Did GitHub remove the restrictions on number of Collaborators?
 
It's not going to be an app anyway.
 
basically you pay $200 for something thats more broken then the concepts of formatting code in my head ? Why ???
 
5:35 PM
Who are you trying to impersonate? ^_^ — Neal 10 secs ago
 
@rlemon @AmaanCheval @Neal I'm going to try add you as collaborators on a private repo, just to see if it lets me
 
Cool
 
now that was a nice read actually
 
@RyanKinal just got an email saying I am added
 
5:37 PM
That's kind of creepy
@RyanKinal Yep, me too
 
Huh... I could have sworn there were restrictions on number of collaborators, based on plan
I guess either I was hallucinating, or they removed it
 
@RyanKinal did they? They limited it to 5 afaik
 
@RyanKinal im there i just got an email abt it
 
for non-paid repos, that is
 
5:39 PM
^ Unlimited collaborators (on paid plans)
 
ah, for paid plans
no I think it was always unlimited
 
Well then. I guess I'm dumb :-P
 
Google Code-in 2012 start today. Go for it! http://googledevelopers.blogspot.com/2012/11/google-code-in-2012-contest-starts-today.html . Good luck!
 
@AmaanCheval hmm that's 11 years too late for me :-(
 
yes @AmaanCheval i'm not sure how many people in here that will apply to
 
5:45 PM
Sigh, I totally hate facebook
 
Let's see. You need someone who's within the age range, and wants to dedicate a good chunk of time to real programming. Yep, just @AmaanCheval
 
apparently a https-only page tab app receives a GET request instead of a POST request (where the payload contains all the important data ) when the user is using facebook via http
 
lol
 
Grr, alright alright. I posted because I thought it was interesting, not so you guys could sign up for it
 
Oh, it's absolutely interesting
I wish I knew about those sorts of things when I was younger
 
5:50 PM
@SomeKittens there was nothing like that when you were young ;-)
 
@SomeKittens How old are you?
 
@uncleho google code is quite old
 
Less than a month away from 22. I was stupid when I was young. Coasted through high school, thought IT was where it was at.
 
uhmm ok
 
@SomeKittens GSOC started in 2005 :)
Google Code-in looks meh to me
 
5:54 PM
I'm actually not that old, just really late to the programming party. Average programmer starts at 13, I didn't really code (more than "I can make the computer beep") until I was 19-20.
 
lol
I won't tell you my story then ;)
 
@FlorianMargaine Yeah, thus "I wish I knew "
@FlorianMargaine Oh?
 
started coding 1 year ago for real. Before that, I had some quick "1 month try to code something ugly" 2 or 3 times maybe.
 
Yep, know the feeling. How'd you start?
 
5:56 PM
Also, I thought you had a CS degree?
 
no
my studies... 2 years for systems admin, 1 year as "pm/systems admin/half-ass dev", and 2 years as "pm/half-ass dev/pm"
the half-ass dev wasn't big :-)
so it's mostly project management studies actually
 
no wonder you are so ;D
 
so what? :p
 
@FlorianMargaine would u like to do some testing on iOS later today though ?
So professional :P
 
Haha, nice
 
5:59 PM
I ain't got iOS
 
You got simulator , i just rooted my device to install Android onit ... yes now lets make steve jobs come out of grave i will use an android on iPhone for testing :D ... :D
 
ah, right
not sure I'll be able tonight though
and next week end I won't be able to either... so dunno
heh, I remember installing android on my iPhone too ^^
 
okay , whenver u can
 
I was a CS "student" for a while before I finally got serious about programming
 
the battery time was awful though back then
 
6:00 PM
you are the only one with the mac , unless my gf allows me to waste $2000
 
@Abhishek "whenever I can" is probably in 3 weeks
 
@FlorianMargaine doesnt matter
 
till then the app will be in android market ;D hopefully
 
@SomeKittens cool
 
6:01 PM
> une grande bière, s'il vous plaît
 
I've got Lion running on a VM
 
@GNi33 "un demi siouplait"
 
How do you get that ? , XCode and iOS Sdk for that i mean
 
<table>
	<tr>
		<td>
			 top left
		</td>
		<td rowspan="2">
			 right side
		</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
		<td>
			 bottom left
		</td>
	</tr>
</table>
 
holy crap, how should i pronounce that
 
6:01 PM
Quick, how do I do this without tables ;)
 
Olarila's ISO and two HackBoot ISOs
 
Xcode works ? with iOS sdk ? the new one ? if so send me the isos in a cd :D , seriously
 
> Take three minutes to build a table. And ten minutes to get a donut. Bill the client for an hour. Done.
 
Alright
needing the biggest reboot ever
if i am not seen ever again for a month
just think i burnt my computer
 
6:03 PM
 
@FlorianMargaine "un demi" -> half a liter?
 
@Abhishek Yep. That's what I downloaded it for
 
@AmaanCheval send me the iso
in a dvd or cd
or pendrive [ if u are really generous ]
 
@rlemon <div><div style="float:left;width:50%;">top left</div><div>right side</div><div style="float:left; width: 50%;">bottom left</div></div>
@GNi33 yeah, although it's actually 25cl in France
when you ask "un demi"
 
hm, okay. how do i order 0.5l then? :D
 
6:06 PM
"une pinte"
 
@Abhishek Why can't you just download it?
It's 5.8ish GB
 
@AmaanCheval Because it would take him 3 weeks
 
won't fit on a DVD
 
@FlorianMargaine super, merci beaucoup ;)
 
@copy I'm from India too :p
Took me 2 days -.-
 
6:11 PM
@FlorianMargaine ???
 
@dievardump just messing with loktar :p
 
oh, I see
 
AHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHA
i did it
@AmaanCheval make multi-part
and in Jabalpur the net speed is slower
OH FUCK THIS IS FAST
okay having to stuck on an old ass kernel sucks balls and nuts but awesome :D
 
@Abhishek I'm not as nice as you think, man :p
 
@AmaanCheval aww man :'(
comon u will make an indian devel happy
 
6:15 PM
Indian devel?
 
developer
 
developers, developers, developers...
 
@Abhishek pay amaan the train and let him give you the dvds
 
@GNi33 :D
Ballmer is hilarious XD
 
@FlorianMargaine oh .. eeks
@AmaanCheval if i come to bombay and copy em off right away ?
its still faster then about a week :P
 
6:16 PM
Ballmer is a downright nutcase :D
 
of download
at my avg download speed 27.2 kbps
 
@Abhishek Hah, sure.
 
6.013e+9 / 27.2
aint a small number now is it ?
 
Number of seconds
 
yes
 
6:19 PM
Why e+9?
 
Google Converted it
maybe i put in something wrong :$
 
It'd take you ~2.7 days of downloading continuously
@Abhishek Yeah. e6 not e9
 
that can never happen
 
6:21 PM
I'm just saying, not saying that's what you should do
 
I think i can hack my neighbours wifi
and slave him to do it :D
 
Hahaha, go ahead DON'T DO IT! (See? I tried stopping him) :p
 
3:-)
aww wow
my laptop is cool as siberia :D
45* C
na ne na ne na
Canvas: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Compositing: Hardware accelerated
3D CSS: Hardware accelerated
CSS Animation: Software animated.
WebGL: Hardware accelerated
WebGL multisampling: Hardware accelerated
Flash 3D: Hardware accelerated
Flash Stage3D: Unavailable. Hardware acceleration unavailable
Texture Sharing: Hardware accelerated
Video Decode: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Video: Hardware accelerated
InChrome is broken
badly on hafdware accelelrateion
haahaha
or maybe its some crazy falg ;D
 
6:37 PM
Yeah, for me, I had to disable the whitelist or something like that
 
@AmaanCheval remember what u did
 
Go to chrome:flags
Override software rendering list
 
^ its broken
 
Mine is disabled now, and it works, though. I don't know how that happened
Whoa
 
@AmaanCheval xD
probably
re-installing chrome shall fix it , hopefully
cause so far none - other thing has shown such madness
Stress testing firefox
.. issue is chrome only
am off to code see ya tomorrow
 
6:50 PM
There seems to be a serious problem in Android Chrome with clientX and clientY: codepen.io/simonsarris/full/dJcvn - Can anyone suggest a workaround? @Loktar @rlemon
 
Holy hell
Think it's because of the radius or something?
Is there a bug filed?
 
@SimonSarris unfortunately I gave up on touch events. they be PITA
 
this is ridiculous :(
 
ok so just testing it
tapping does work
 
scroll and tap
 
6:54 PM
the touch start and touch end are looking like you're capturing them
strange, and only some times
first time it worked, now it's messing up
 
Is there a way to check issues you've starred on Google's bug site?
 
@SimonSarris try explicitly setting a viewport meta tag
 
How?
 
maybe there is something the device picks up on
 
6:57 PM
I think I remember seeing a bug that was similar
 
Yeah!
It says screenY and screenX work fine
 
@SimonSarris hrmm, the more I read about it the more i'm convinved this is something to do with not setting the viewport in the meta tag
 
how could I set such a thing reasonably?
 
<meta name='viewport' content='width=device-width'>
 
6:59 PM
I want users to scroll around the page after all
 
@rlemon also will you need is a bunch of scale constraints
 
naaay that wont work
 
@SimonSarris meet @Abhishek (currently developing a mobile chat application)
 
after all the issue would still remain vertically, even if there wer constraints
 
ayaaaaaaaaaa
 
7:05 PM
@SimonSarris I would test but we can't have any electronic devices in the building..
its quite sad.
 
O_o. Is the building owned by the gov?
 
yeah
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@Loktar Where do you keep your phone? In your car?
 
^ where I work
@AmaanCheval yeah
 
Oh ok
That's sad.
 
7:07 PM
yeah sucks
 
It's time to go to the golden gate bridge. But I'm so lazy
 
Alright
Good Night folks
 
Night!
 
night!
 
5.3 mi, 1 hour 49 mins
:(
 
7:11 PM
@AmaanCheval i just installed whats app on pc
how ? android emu :3
 
@Abhishek Cool. There are a few of those
 
@AmaanCheval i know
 
Dan
Hi, I'm a JS copy/paster and i'm using a a jquery script to style some select elements and provide client side validation. Both work individually by giving the <select> a class (class = 'styled' or class = 'required') and when one or the other is applied to a <select>, they work fine, however if i try to combine them in one class (class = 'styled required') it doesn't work. Does this multiple class naming not work in JS as it does in CSS?
 
@rlemon whoa man i am not just making an mobile chat app but also an NLP and a small
 
I think you're misusing the jquery selector
 
7:15 PM
server side broadcaster too
 
but yes, it works like css
so .styled.required
 
"Hi, I'm a JS copy/paster and i'm using a a jquery script" mouhahaha
love it
 
Dan
@dievardump I know i know, sorry :P
 
Oh no worries, I just loved the description. You know what you are doing (copy pasting), that is the good part.
 
Dan
7:18 PM
@dievardump There's no point coming into a room like this pretending I'm something i'm not - I'd get found out pretty quickly :)
 
@Dan You're one of the smart ones!
This is something that rarely ever happens
It should work fine, btw
Show us a JSFiddle so we can see if we can help
 
@AmaanCheval link me the Mac iSO
 
Dan
@AmaanCheval It's a whole lot of code - this might be a question for the main SO. Thanks both so much for your help (and understanding :)) noob away
 
or just p2p send it to me [ which will be faster in our case]
 
7:22 PM
Links are in the IRC room description
 
@AmaanCheval woot
wow i am surprized how pirate we can get att times ;D
 
@SomeKittens Does Blogspot ever show you extremely unlikely pageviews?
I just posted, and it says I have two views from this chat room. Strange
 
7:37 PM
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BenTalbertI started reading about JavaScript patterns, and I really liked module pattern. So I created some module: var App = (function (parent, $) { function myPrivateFunc () { // Some private stuff } return { myPubFunc: myPrivateFunc, publicFunction: function () { ...

 
7:49 PM
ohhh yea
alll of that dom goodness
 
8:01 PM
O_O
 
Why would somebody who otherwise seems to know a fair bit about JS do the following:
if ( !! ! data) {
That's just the same as !data isn't it?
 
Yeah
 
This guy also knew a ton of other languages so he may have confused paradigms.
 
So...I started a blog. amaanc.blogspot.com
 
=== is stupid
 
8:10 PM
@Esailija I'm assuming you're suggesting === should have been ==?
Instead of having a separate strict equals?
 
I only check 2 of same type anyway, or when I don't, end up writing something like +str === 5
no this is general rant, not related to discussions here
=D
just something I realized
The only time == bit me in the ass was in my noob days when I did extremely stupid shit like using 1 variable for different types
 
That's pretty cool!
 
Sometimes I want to know whether I got an undefined or a null. Thus, I find === useful. I like the option to do either.
 
when would you ever care if something was null or undefined
just use hasOwnProperty or in operator
 
8:34 PM
@ErikReppen I'm not toaly sure.
Sometimes some people do !!data to be sure about some converting
 
To be sure it's boolean
But !data would make it boolean. Triple not-ing doesn't make sense to me
 
yes probably
I did not left already
Shiiiiit
 
excel guys, what does $B-1 mean?
what is the $B
I know cells are like B1, B2, B3, ect..
 
The B column
 
B column?
 
8:40 PM
so $B$5 is just B5
??
 
From what I remember $ makes absolute references
So you can link to cells in other files
 
Yes, I think that's what it is.
 
ref value not formula?
 
What?
 
? It evaluates to the value in B5
 
8:41 PM
You can use B5 or $B$5 if you're in the same file
Won't make a difference
 
Isn't one of them a relative address?
 
I'm replicating an excel sheet in HTML ./ JS and the formula is:
(B13/B12)/($B$4*(1-$B$5)/(1-B15)/(1-$B$16)))*(1+B14)
the use of both just made me wonder
 
hi , i have quick question :)
is this right ? var deletedata = $("table#resulttable td #'<?php echo $row3['id'] ;?>' ");
#resulttable is table id
#'<?php echo $row3['id'] ;?>' is td id
 
You don't need the quotes around the PHP echo
 
8:51 PM
@rlemon Absolute sheet and cell reference. So if you are using a formula, it will not convert. For example, if you have a summation column (Column C) that adds A's value to B's value, C is set to "=SUM(A1:B1)". If you drag that down, it will do the same with Row 2, etc. Setting the absolute value of the cell prevents it from being "translated" and $B$1 will always only refer to the first row's contents in column B.
 
!!/define something
 
@AmaanCheval something: some indeterminate or unspecified thing. (source)
 
@EricMcCormick Oooh, yeah!
 
omg I love notepad++
search and replace with regex is like my new thing
i'm so in love I cannot even format a proper name for how much I love it
 
:D
Btw, Sublime does this too :p
 
8:54 PM
i have my main ajax php file which displays a table from data.php file . how can i reach this table from the ajax php file ?
 
@AmaanCheval makes converting LONG equations from excel to js such a breeze
 
table and ids and all comes from data.php file , how to reach them in ajax php file , i get this table by ajax
 
name your form elements the same as your cells in excel and you almost have to do no work at all
 
@rlemon you do know that vim has this built-in since its origins, right?
 
@FlorianMargaine yea but I dislike gvim
so on windows I use notepad++
 
8:56 PM
Okay, is "Amaanisms" a dumb name for a blog?
 
yes
 
anything with an indian-sounding name sounds dumb for anyone not indian tbh
 
Name suggestions?
 
!!> "Cheval".replace(/e/g, "i") + "ry is not dead!";
 
@rlemon "Chivalry is not dead!"
 
8:57 PM
Hah, nice
 

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