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17:00
the logical operators are replaced with literal ones
@MylesGray I'm too repless to vote to close.
ah. is confused about bitwise operators ...*searches internet*
user1385191
bitwise operators are mostly logical operators with single characters instead of double
@Raynos Use vapor.js for optimum package size.
@MattMcDonald so what's the practical difference?
user1385191
17:03
I'd use vapor except I don't like the author :)
user1385191
they manipulate bits
@MattMcDonald write your own!
is this (scroll down to the bitwise section) a good explanation? msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wz3k228a%28VS.80%29.aspx
@MattMcDonald cool reading
17:05
@Nathan :(
sfine I don't care about rep.
user1385191
I can't close vote either
user1385191
no worries
Thanks for trying guys
... someone was talking about that the other day. I swear Scott Adams listens to my life.
user1385191
17:11
I never knew point-haired boss was that observant
user1385191
in the cartoon, he usually just shrugs that stuff off with corporate speak
user1385191
ha, perfect
user1385191
now how in the world did w3schools get so high on the google rankings?
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, w3schools was a recommended way of learning web technologies.
These high rankings are remnants from that ancient society, carried on by erroneous clicks, and those who don't know any better.
17:16
@MattMcDonald SEO farming. Lots of link backing
its been around for 10 years
someone should make a css room
@ErrorErrorError there is one, last i checked.
or close enough:

Web Developers Lounge

A place to talk about HTML, CSS, JavaScript, or anything else ...
thanks i looked through it didnt find it
The CSS room is frozen -_-
there was a dedicated room but I guess it died.
17:22
anyone know how I can replace the submit and Add buttons by the 2 good looking ones at the bottom?
pastebin.com/8i4HSVAj
This dedicated room may be on its way out too :(

Fishing

Because sometimes we just want boat programming.
@MattMcDonald I get it now... that's pretty cool. Had to stare at that fiddle for a while; and I had to pull out my number base converter.
17:37
i am confused because one uses span the user button uses form
so i dont know how to replace the grey form buttons by the green ones
18:22
@AndyE Any chance you could vote to close this please:
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Q: Unable to authenticate proxy when starting SQL snapshot agent

Myles GrayI have a Windows Server 2008 R2 install running SQL Server 2008 R2 with all the latest updates etc applied, I have restored a database from an old image (SQL 2005) and am trying to get web-sync working with merge subscriptions. However when I attempt to start the SQL Snapshot Agent on the distr...

I need it moved to server fault
thank you sir
user1385191
19:14
boss: hey, our client wants a "job ticker" on the bottom of their site
user1385191
me: we're not using a marquee tag
user1385191
me: or some stupid jQuery plugin
user1385191
me: horrible idea
sniff the boss's IP and just for him/her, wrap the whole page in a <marquee>
Done.
user1385191
I showed my boss a demo of a blank page with the marquee tag, the center tag, and the blink tag
user1385191
19:15
we both had a hearty laugh and agreed it looked terrible
user1385191
this is where having a good boss pays dividends
@MattMcDonald that's awesome.
LOL
19:28
ha
lol, did anybody follow the link to the wikipedia entry, and read the origin story? Basically, some drunk, sleepless dev decided that <blink> sounded like a great idea and implemented it.
lol
user1385191
I showed the wiki for the marquee tag to my boss
user1385191
to whoever wants to post the blink wiki link, I'll star it
The blink element is a non-standard presentational HTML element that indicates to a user agent (generally a web browser) that the page author intends the content of the element to blink (that is, alternate between being visible and invisible). The element was introduced in Netscape Navigator and has some support in other web browsers, but support for the feature is absent from Internet Explorer. Despite the element being initially popular among personal homepages, it has since fallen out of favor due to its overuse and the difficulty it presents in reading. The tag achieved notoriety fo...
that?
here's another good one montulli.org/theoriginofthe<blink>tag
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user1385191
19:40
yeah, that link has more context
text-decoration: blink;
@ThomasShields HA
Chrome refuses to support blink, even: jsfiddle.net/thomas4g/x4FsF/1
@ThomasShields its depreciated
@Neal yeah i know but often browsers hang onto stuff
user1385191
19:47
it's not deprecated
user1385191
it was never standard to begin with
user1385191
along with marquee
@MattMcDonald truth
@Neal can you please help with the submit button....I cant even get the numbers from the list through submit button.....the submit button just displays "SUBMIT"

http://pastebin.com/MqVwtXrT
19:57
@ErrorErrorError i told you a FEW HOURS ago what to change.... im not helping anymore with that. im sorry
@Neal nice lol
I did what yuo said
@ThomasShields :-) its blinky ^_^
it didnt work....
@ErrorErrorError no u ddnt
do a print_r($_POST)
and ask this in the php room...
19:58
i tried it it didnt work so then i started trying other things
@ThomasShields yay fake blinks ^_^
looks just as bad lol
@Neal thats awesoem can i borrow that blink?
Should try to do it with css animations
@ErrorErrorError haha go for it
dont use it tho.
BLINK IS EEEEVIL!!
19:59
why not>?
its so sexy
@ErrorErrorError are you serious?? how old are u?
@Neal LOL
vomits
...
@ErrorErrorError we were making fun of it...
20:00
i like itl ol...as a newbie you dont have much options to go in terms of variety...
@ErrorErrorError I beseech you, in the name of Tim Berners-Lee, do not use blink. Please oh Internet gods do not let it be used!
aka DONT DO THIS: jsfiddle.net/maniator/x4FsF/5 :-P
especially with marquee as well lol
it looks super good but FINE i wont use it....
20:01
@ErrorErrorError have some heart for your users with poor eyesight! do not subject them to this madness!
I sincerely hope this is a joke
@RyanKinal ive noticed that @ErrorErrorError doesnt joke.....
i wanted to display today's date n make it blink accross screen
@ErrorErrorError holy F dont do that! lol
@Neal agreed
20:02
huh?
i figuredo ut how to use iframe plugins today
@neal check it out lol
i need to error proof the inputs for the textbox though
@ErrorErrorError wtf is that? lol looks like ive stepped into 1992
You need to make the blinking date follow the mouse cursor
20:04
@ErrorErrorError i'm gonna be straight with you here: that looks absolutely horrendous
@david lol
@ErrorErrorError btw ur submit seems to be working..
>_> u said that last time i think it looks good....
I dont see whats wrong with it....took hours n hours
@ErrorErrorError r u serious?
@ErrorErrorError have you ever gone onto a website aside from urs? lol
it took about 4 days and 20 hours or so lol
!!!
20:06
yeah....i still need to add a menu to this...
the background is unfortunate...
@ErrorErrorError you need to hire someone else to make ur site.... (whatever its for...)
what's with the repeating phone image?
im trying to learn this lol
read every single result on that search
@Neal yeah lol
i want to that that thing too....the way they have that top of the page....how do you do it?
they have 1 top section image and letters and menu on it
@ErrorErrorError ...?
what im making isnt exactly a website
@ErrorErrorError clearly you need to learn HTML and CSS from the top. one moment.
20:09
its an interface
@ErrorErrorError piece of advice -- dont make a website...
@ErrorErrorError what does that mean?!
@ErrorErrorError html.net
Go through tutorials. Step by step.
who is this for?
lol
read this entire page, click every link and read everything on the pages the links take you to, etc developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS_Reference
I made an app....you call a 1800 number and the app sends a POST request to my php file which in return goes and reads off who is in charge for on call schedule....it gets that person;s name and calls them to connect them to the caller, if that person on the schedule doesnt pick up it will call another person, if that person doesnt pick up it calls 1 more person
20:11
@ThomasShields Whoa whoa whoa... skipping straight to CSS?
every week the person incharge of on call changes and it will keep updating....However
@RyanKinal well yeah your link should come first
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of course, 90% of last year's "worst websites" by UX are Flash-based :(
if they want to follow an irregular schedule say they want to choose for 1 week who should take the calls
@ErrorErrorError wtf
20:12
the interface allows them to select the numbers in order that will be taking the calls
again wtf?
what do you mean?
thats what i mean
lol...puppet show...
ummm no
20:14
in any case thanks ill read those websites
i have 1 question....that thing the numbers are being added to is called a list yes?
no
what is it called?
figure it out. look it up. new invention: GOOGLE...
i was able to CSS the submit button but couldnt do it for Add button or Edit
i have been trying to find a CSS for it but apparently list wasnt it
im done. have fun @ErrorErrorError
20:18
I need to make myself a website to dump stuff on
@david wazzat for?
use nearlyfreespeach
what's a good free hosting setup?
its cheap and affordable
is making a website with flash bad?
nearlyfreespeach is pennies on the day
20:19
I'd want to be able to chuck whatever files I want up there, and also have node/ some db running on it
@david see above.
ive found some website templates but I cant open them :S
@david i use it for my site -- its awesome
it doesn't seem to support node :(
@david what doesnt?
20:20
nearlyfreespeech
@david why can't it?
@ThomasShields ha
@Neal and of course you could insert some evil link to a virus instead of google lol
@ThomasShields :-P
@ThomasShields that was silly to make, now @ErrorErrorError is gunna use it...
@Neal oh true.
crap
20:22
lol
omgg
thats so wicked
...
see?
you guys are like the gurus of web design :P
thomas ill give you credit :P
@ErrorErrorError please, please, please tell us you've been joking this whole time.
20:22
@david -- why cant u use node on nfs?
@thomas why would I be joking.......And I found some website templates I cant open them :S they are zipped so is there a special editor to open them?
@neal it wasn't in the list of things they said they had
@ErrorErrorError OPEN IT WITH YOUR OPERATING SYSTEMS DEFAULT UNZIPPING PROGRAM
@david lol install it urself
@ThomasShields i dont think @ErrorErrorError knows how to use a computer....
@ErrorErrorError or use 7-zip.org
20:24
@ThomasShields or winzip, or winrar, etc etc
@Neal yeah i was just using the first to my head
Has anybody else noticed a distinct lack of @Raynos since @ErrorErrorError has been here?
@ThomasShields :-P or the native windows unzipper or the native mac unzipper. or ur pants :-P ha
@RyanKinal.... i know
i have a feeling im gonna give you guys a heart attack today :P
@Neal yeah like i said lol
@ErrorErrorError you already have.
20:25
@RyanKinal i might leave soon bc of it....
@Neal I was mostly wondering if it's @Raynos trolling ;-)
ha
Seriously, though, I'm done working for the day, so... good luck all ;-)
Ooh, have to finish my beer first
@RyanKinal ciao.
lol
Can't let a good beer go to waste
20:27
@david u can install node on mostly any unix server
My workplace doesn't exactly resemble a workplace on Friday afternoon, lol
I wasn't sure if they allowed you to install your own shit
btw.....i was using bitZipper to open the template...
user1385191
my most productive time of day is 2-3 hours before I leave
from what I read you only had what they gave you
20:29
@david try it. it cant hurt (so u lose $5, whoopee...)
@MattMcDonald Yeah, most days that's true for me. But then the beer arrives at 3:30 every Friday.
@david the $5 lasts a while if noone goes to ur site
user1385191
then we differ because I hate alcohol
yeah I think i'll pass
@MattMcDonald Mmm. Yes. That is a marked difference.
20:30
@ErrorErrorError if you have something called Template.zip just rename it to Template.internet and it should work
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@david oook their servers are very very fast
lol
user1385191
I'm still amazed at the discovery I made today
user1385191
you can make blank files of any size through the terminal
@david i did install node on one of my nfs sites, ddnt test it yet tho
@MattMcDonald lol of course
:-)
20:32
@Matt I did that once to prepare a swap file
user1385191
I find it's very handy for quickly creating __init__.py
/dev/zero
why is the daily topic class in the next the next es
user1385191
mkfile 1g REALLYBIGFILE
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lol, awesome
20:34
Aaah. Beer is finished. Now to go drink more beer. Later all
do you guys use dream weaver for editing?
user1385191
STOP IT STOP IT RIGHT NOW
what r u trying to stop
the madness
user1385191
trying out the ignore feature
20:45
lol!
has dreamweaver gotten any better? CS3 was the version I used, and the js it generated sucked to debug
user1385191
no, adobe bloats their product year after year after year
user1385191
anything beyond cs3 is tripe
user1385191
quite frankly, I would never trust someone who codes in dreamweaver to build my site for me
I don't think I would ever work on a site made in dreamweaver either
rm -rf /usr /lib
20:49
wtf...in school they told us to use dreamweaver.....r u guys troling...
change school
@ErrorErrorError what school did you go to...
thats because adobe is paying for your school, they want you to buy their product
@ErrorErrorError noone with half a brain is using dreamweaver here
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it was a computer class.....i guess they wanted to use the old free versions they owned compared to buying the new stuff...was a public highschool
20:51
oookay that explains it.
@ErrorErrorError hang tight, i've got something for ya in a few minutes
@thomas you think im trollingl ol i havent done web developement much lately...last time was in 2008...i do robotics mostly
however i am reading a set of tutorials
@ErrorErrorError no i don't think you're troller. a public highschool isn't the best place to learn web design.
our of 250 days we spent 10-15 days on web design
it;s not the best place to learn anything...ooooh hows that for trolling
@stevebot that's true too....
20:54
@thomas what do i hang tight for lol?
@ErrorErrorError i just meant don't go away.
i've got something for you.
alright i hope its a cool blinkey :P joking
what browser do you use @error?
does anyone here unittest javascript?
@RyanKinal ¬_¬
20:59
google chrome
or fire fox

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